Markdown for strikethrough and tables is now enabled
Previously, the only way to do strikethrough or tables on Tildes was by using HTML. I've updated the markdown parser now so that it supports the methods of doing them through markdown. The Formatting help page on the docs has been updated as well with info about how they work.
I don't think there should be any conflicts between strikethrough and linking to groups, but it's possible that there are some weird edge cases, so please let me know if you notice anything. Generally, strikethrough requires you to have two tildes both before and after the text you want to strike out, whereas group links will only have one before. So something like This ~~should work~~ doesn't work will result in should work instead of a link to a group named ~should.
i love youthanks so much for all the hard work!This still works~So does this~
Sorry, testing. Both still seem to work. I've used
<del></del>the few times I've had to do it so far.Yep, everything that you can do with markdown you can also do by just using HTML directly. The process works by converting markdown into HTML (and passing through any existing HTML), then running the result from that through an HTML sanitizer. By writing HTML you're basically just skipping the first step.
Cool
I like the labels too. Thanks for all the effort.
Edit - I did a table and thought it didn't work at first because of the almost white on white in the alternated color column was confusing.
We should copy one more feature from reddit... the [source] button under the replies. Or is that RES? I can't tell anymore. It'll help spread awareness of how to use all the fun toys when people see them in the wild.
That's RES. There's an issue for it though: https://gitlab.com/tildes/tildes/issues/67
Implementation-wise it's extremely simple, but my biggest concern with it is that we really don't need to put a "Source" button on every single comment when it will almost never get used (maybe one time out of thousands and thousands of comments). So I'm not sure how I want to do it yet.
Use
</>instead of the textsource, align it to the right of the top bar, and load the source using ajax to avoid increasing page size too much (I know Voat includes all comment and post sources in the generated html and that seems like a waste of bandwidth).A quick mockup I made: https://i.imgur.com/IScczLx.png (I used
flex:2; text-align: righton adivwith anaelement inside, but I'm sure there are better ways to solve this).Here's an idea:
A three-dot drop-down menu? Do you know how much absolutely vitriolic hate the developers at Reddit have been copping for the past few months because their redesign relies on three-dot drop-down menus? People hate this design approach - especially when there's plenty of room to display all the menu options in line. Why add a second click to access an option when it can be available in only one click?
Let's not put poor Deimos in that firing line. :)
People hate complicating things. Reddit complicated people's workflow by hiding things behind overflow menus. But Tildes is nice and simple, so complicating it is cluttering it with barely used buttons.
Good UX does involve limiting the number of clicks across the entire UI, but it doesn't mean we can't use basic menus. They don't have to be animated, or remotely loaded, or anything like that. Hell, you can make a basic menu like that with pure CSS and it'll be instant.
If people really do care about having those buttons permanently visible, it could always be a setting. Could even let people choose specific items to have in the menu. Personally I prefer avoiding the clutter, so I would probably have most of them.
There's also the option of adding this sort of stuff to a Tildes enhancement suite plugin. It's kinda inevitable that it'll exist. Those plugins would open up new ways of interacting with the site too.
I think Deimos is right, given how infrequently something like that is clicked, it's a waste of space. We certainly don't want to be hiding things like 'report' behind a hamburger menu, either.
There's already a Tildes extension that people keep promoting all over the place.
Is it a full browser plugin yet? I thought it was still just some utility scripts.
It is.
I had to slow down the development in the last month or so for a big increase of my daily job, but it is still active.
@Bauke has completed the navigation by keyboard, it just need testing.
I don't know what those things are. I don't even know what the extension is. I just know people keep recommending it all over the place.
:( then it's inaccessible to anyone on a phone...
Yeah, I like the source function. I really like the white and black themes. I hope it stays simple. Using the black theme on mobile is amazing.
You might want to update the documentation about strikethrough: in this post, you've explained that we can use single tildes to strike through text, but the documentation demonstrates this with double tildes. I've tested, and both methods work. You might want to update the documentation to reflect this.
However... if you're worried about this feature clashing with links to groups, you could remove the ability for single tildes to enable strikethrough, and restrict it to double tildes only.
Yeah, seems to be any number that works. The official spec says it's double tildes, so I just went with that for the documentation too: https://github.github.com/gfm/#strikethrough-extension-
I agree with making it works only with double tildes.
No reason to complicate things with single tildes that require to determine if it is a strikethrough or a link to a group.
Hmm what if I want to mention ~news, ~talk, and ~movies in the same sentence? ~Let's test.~
Edit: It works! ~news~
Alright, but how about ~news ~talk ~movies?
Edit: Well, it's good that works but technically nonbreaking spaces should be treated like: ~news~talk~movies
~Can we strikethrough ~news, ~talk, and ~movies?~ Probably not, but let's see...
Edit: Nope, it confuses the parser, doesn't look like you can strikethrough tildes. Awesome regardless though, now I'll no longer have to lookup the HTML codes for these. Thanks! :D
Yes, just escape the tilde before the group: ~news~Like ~this?~
How about
if you use multiple ~tildes?E: nope. (That was
~~if ... ~tildes?~~.)Can you strike a tilde by triple-prefixing? Lets see: ~~~news~~
EDIT: Nope. Perhaps that could be a way to handle both at once.
~~~news~~~~\~news~~~news~newsYou can escape a tilde using a backslash:
~~\~news~~Easy enough, thanks!
Now why would anybody want that?Super^script
Might bump up bottom margin for tables in CSS.
Added a margin, thanks.
*The above is pure HTML, not markdown.
thare supported everywhere.alignattribute is supported for any table cell (tdandth).Why did you go with single tilde instead of the fairly standard (reddit, Github, Discord) double tilde?
Edit: I guess double tilde technically works, but on other sites single tilde doesn't work, instead just displaying ~text~.
Since we are talking Markdown, maybe Github style syntax highlighting should work? That's something I always wished reddit had.
I didn't really make a decision about how it would work. I'm using GitHub's markdown parser, so it works the same as theirs.
And yeah, syntax highlighting should be very possible to add. There's an issue for it: https://gitlab.com/tildes/tildes/issues/78