Hey @Grzmot, hope you’re doing okay. When I saw this thread I will admit I felt for you. Running online surveys is really hard, especially in nitpicky communities (I was one of the mods who ran...
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Hey @Grzmot, hope you’re doing okay. When I saw this thread I will admit I felt for you. Running online surveys is really hard, especially in nitpicky communities (I was one of the mods who ran the r/SpaceX surveys, it’s basically an invitation to be chastised and abused), and although people aren’t necessarily being mean here—the culmination of critical comments and super nitpicky opinions can certainly make it feel like you’re in the firing line!
Like come on, In the interests of kindness and positivity, is this really the thread to moan about how a website that describes itself as an “app” is “annoying”? Far out, chill!
Cheers mate, you're the cavalry that just arrived with compliments :^) Thanks, I appreciate you looking out for me. And you're right, even though the feedback is all constructive and I think...
Cheers mate, you're the cavalry that just arrived with compliments :^)
Thanks, I appreciate you looking out for me. And you're right, even though the feedback is all constructive and I think warranted, it still stings a little when people complain about stuff you put out there. But hey, nothing is perfect, and for my first attempt, I think I did alright. I can only improve it with my future attempts, with the knowledge that ultimately, I'll never please everyone cause that's impossible.
Hello everyone, after the recent dicussion about bringing back the Tildes census, as the people who organized it before weren't available anymore, I've decided to step up with my attempt. Please...
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Hello everyone, after the recent dicussion about bringing back the Tildes census, as the people who organized it before weren't available anymore, I've decided to step up with my attempt. Please note, this is the first time I've done something like this, and I've made the questions similar to the last census. As those questions weren't available directly, I've followed the analysis of the results.
There are definitely ways for it to be improved, especially when it comes to work related and language related questions, but I didn't know how to approach the problem precisely, so I've opted to include what I think will be the most selected options (based on the last census). Most options have an Other choice if you are not satisfied with the presented choices. No option has to be answered, if you prefer not to give out any info about yourself.
Any ideas on how to improve it for next year are very much welcome, I hope you're satisfied with the form! I'll keep the form open for at least a week so everyone gets a chance to answer. After that, I'll try to analyze(visualize the data, though I don't know when I'll release it as exams are looming on the horizon menacingly. If someone else would volunteer to visualize the data earlier, that would be great.
Ideas on how to improve the census:
Give a better scale for politics, define what 1 and 10 exactly mean
More options for education, especially trade qualifications like apprenticeships, etc.
Provide a more nuanced way to defined your political standing
Thank you for doing this! Some feedback: The languages section could be expanded to include at least 10–15 most spoken languages. Or have several write-in fields. I couldn't write both Russian and...
Thank you for doing this! Some feedback:
The languages section could be expanded to include at least 10–15 most
spoken languages. Or have several write-in fields. I couldn't
write both Russian and Esperanto in, so I ended up only doing so for
Russian.
Computer and mobile OS questions should be multiple choice. I have two
GNU/Linux computers and one OpenBSD one. I also know of people who have
both an Android phone and an Apple one.
The occupation question could be more granular as well. There are so many "IT" personnel here that it makes sense to delve into industry and specialization.
The occupation question could be more granular as well. There are so many "IT" personnel here that it makes sense to delve into industry and specialization.
I suppose it's asking more what your main OS is. I use Linux 99% of the time, but have a Windows partition for certain games. I wouldn't put Windows down if it were multiple choice, personally.
I suppose it's asking more what your main OS is. I use Linux 99% of the time, but have a Windows partition for certain games. I wouldn't put Windows down if it were multiple choice, personally.
I don't have much of a "main" OS though. If I need to boot my Windows machine up for something (e.g. gaming) I'll do everything else (browsing, and whatever I'm currently doing) with that....
I don't have much of a "main" OS though. If I need to boot my Windows machine up for something (e.g. gaming) I'll do everything else (browsing, and whatever I'm currently doing) with that. Otherwise I use the Macbook.
Properly speaking, I guess my "main OS" is a Linux-based hypervisor, with a herd of miscellaneous VMs, and Windows happens to be the most used GUI... or Android devices?
Properly speaking, I guess my "main OS" is a Linux-based hypervisor, with a herd of miscellaneous VMs, and Windows happens to be the most used GUI... or Android devices?
For my line, I put in "all of the above" for the OS choice as a write-in because I use them all approximately equally. I was expecting a multiple choice! Otherwise I am overall pleased with the...
For my line, I put in "all of the above" for the OS choice as a write-in because I use them all approximately equally. I was expecting a multiple choice! Otherwise I am overall pleased with the survey.
Yeah this could use much improvement. What about manufacturers, lawyers, cashiers, restaurant workers, police officers and teachers? People that work multiple jobs? Unemployed people? Retirees? A...
Field of Work
Medical
IT
Student
Finance sector
Engineering
Yeah this could use much improvement. What about manufacturers, lawyers, cashiers, restaurant workers, police officers and teachers? People that work multiple jobs? Unemployed people? Retirees? A better model might be this one, although it is pretty difficult to categorize employment. A better political model might be the one 8values uses. Questions about your income and upbringing might be helpful to determine if we're wealthier than average or not (although this is firmly in the group of questions that should have 'don't want to answer' as an option.) A question about theme usage and how important privacy is to you should probably be included, since they were included in the original census. 'For how many years have you been using the Internet' could be an interesting question to include in the census.
None of the answers are required to send off the form, this way I was able to avoid a "Prefer not to say" on any of those, in particular the personal question. When it came to the political...
None of the answers are required to send off the form, this way I was able to avoid a "Prefer not to say" on any of those, in particular the personal question.
When it came to the political leaning I was aware that it wasn't the best way to ask it, but I didn't know how to put any better without the form becoming too bloated. Politics is a nuanced subject, and I don't think that left/right are sufficient enough terms. However, if I included them all, the list would probably be longer than the 196 countries I put in manually. The example you used, 8values, is a quiz that itself has another 70 questions. I think we should also take care to keep the census short as to not put people off when they open the form.
What about manufacturers, lawyers, cashiers, restaurant workers, police officers and teachers?
I cannot include every single job on this list, some sort of aggregation will have to be done to make further analysis of the data possible. I agree that my list was very short and by far not enough to describe everyone's job.
Questions about your income and upbringing might be helpful to determine if we're wealthier than average or not (although this is firmly in the group of questions that should have 'don't want to answer' as an option.)
Income already varies greatly inbetween countries. In the US people usually make more and are taxed less, but only because you have a number of expenses people in other countries don't have, like healthcare. I don't know how much it would help with analyzing the demographic of Tildes.
I cited an alternative :P Admittedly, that's correct. Asking people what income percentile they are in their country is the closest we can come to a solution on this and doesn't account for...
I cannot include every single job on this list, some sort of aggregation will have to be done to make further analysis of the data possible. I agree that my list was very short and by far not enough to describe everyone's job.
Income already varies greatly inbetween countries. In the US people usually make more and are taxed less, but only because you have a number of expenses people in other countries don't have, like healthcare.
Admittedly, that's correct. Asking people what income percentile they are in their country is the closest we can come to a solution on this and doesn't account for inequality differences and currencies, although it would still be helpful to know if we're richer than average or not :P
The example you used, 8values, is a quiz that itself has another 70 questions.
You don't need to take the quest, you just need to rank yourself like on your current test, but on 4 axes.
None of the answers are required to send off the form, this way I was able to avoid a "Prefer not to say" on any of those, in particular the personal question.
Just to jump on the 'better scale for politics' bandwagon: A one-dimensional political spectrum is too compressed to be particularly meaningful. There are many suggested models for political...
Just to jump on the 'better scale for politics' bandwagon: A one-dimensional political spectrum is too compressed to be particularly meaningful.
There are many suggested models for political spectra. Personally I think something like the three dimensions of the Vosem Cube can be insightful and could be captured with three scales, one each for:
Governmental focus (anarchism and monarchism being extrema)
Social focus (liberalism and conservatism being extrema)
Economic focus (socialism and capitalism being extrema)
Unfortunately due to that last question someone that would otherwise be fine with the anonymous data is going to be a dick because they think it'll be funny to deny the rest of us meaningful data.
Unfortunately due to that last question someone that would otherwise be fine with the anonymous data is going to be a dick because they think it'll be funny to deny the rest of us meaningful data.
If a single person answers no, only a general analysis of the census will be published on Tildes. Otherwise the dataset will be published as well.
I don't know that people would say no to that just to be funny. A lot of people on here are genuinely protective of their privacy. I haven't filled out the survey yet, but looking at that, I'd...
I don't know that people would say no to that just to be funny. A lot of people on here are genuinely protective of their privacy. I haven't filled out the survey yet, but looking at that, I'd lean towards saying no, but it depends on how the data would be released.
If the data were to be shared as individual survey entries, I know I wouldn't want it released. I'm open on here about being a teacher, and I doubt there are very many others on Tildes, so that one answer would either give away the rest of my demographic data or help someone narrow it down to only a few entries, even if everything submitted is technically "anonymous".
It's a bit like those browser fingerprint tests where seemingly innocuous info can deanonymize you. If you're a monolingual American IT professional you might blend in with the rest but probably...
It's a bit like those browser fingerprint tests where seemingly innocuous info can deanonymize you. If you're a monolingual American IT professional you might blend in with the rest but probably most people here are pretty unique when you combine a few of the fields.
The site doesn't allow for the export of survey data anyway, as I've found out after making it. This means you get a few graphs and a few words about those graphs and nothing else anyway
The site doesn't allow for the export of survey data anyway, as I've found out after making it. This means you get a few graphs and a few words about those graphs and nothing else anyway
Wow, that's a bit surprising. I would think data export would be an essential feature of a service like this. Sorry to hear that. Can you see the disaggregated data as the form owner, or do they...
Wow, that's a bit surprising. I would think data export would be an essential feature of a service like this. Sorry to hear that.
Can you see the disaggregated data as the form owner, or do they only show you summaries as well?
I can see each and every filled out form, with handy graphs that aggregate each answered question. Which means that the missing export function isn't that big of an issue. ...Except for the Where...
I can see each and every filled out form, with handy graphs that aggregate each answered question. Which means that the missing export function isn't that big of an issue.
...Except for the Where are you from question. I meant well when I entered every country that existed, but the amount of options broke the site and now I can't see the actual graph. I'll probably have to extract the data by hand, sigh.
EDIT: Oh no, the site has broken completely right now and I can't see any of the responses.
I'll redo the survey most likely with updated questions to reflect the valuable feedback I've gotten. I'm currently rebuilding the updated form using JotForm, which seems to be established enough...
I'll redo the survey most likely with updated questions to reflect the valuable feedback I've gotten. I'm currently rebuilding the updated form using JotForm, which seems to be established enough that it won't break after 65 submissions.
Well, guess you're gonna need to make the census again anyway :l I guess @cwagner was ultimately right, you should have picked a better site. Well that's a waste of text for a lot of people.
Well, guess you're gonna need to make the census again anyway :l
I guess @cwagner was ultimately right, you should have picked a better site. Well that's a waste of text for a lot of people.
The education level question is a bit limited. No inclusion of trade apprenticeships (welding etc) or professional qualifications. Not all education/qualifications are academic, and some are as...
The education level question is a bit limited. No inclusion of trade apprenticeships (welding etc) or professional qualifications. Not all education/qualifications are academic, and some are as good, if not better than having a degree.
63 people already took the time to reply, with quite a lot of content in both freeform answers. I'd rather make the census better each year (I plan to do it next year again, barring some sudden...
63 people already took the time to reply, with quite a lot of content in both freeform answers. I'd rather make the census better each year (I plan to do it next year again, barring some sudden changes), however I'll probably post a topic next year in preparation for it to get more feedback before actually posting the form.
What would be examples for professional qualifications that could somehow aggregate the question? The amount of certificates that you can get for your job is vast.
What would be examples for professional qualifications that could somehow aggregate the question? The amount of certificates that you can get for your job is vast.
FYI binary trans people don't identify themselves as trans as their gender identity, someone transitioning male to female would refer to themselves as female. A better way to phrase IMO would be...
FYI binary trans people don't identify themselves as trans as their gender identity, someone transitioning male to female would refer to themselves as female. A better way to phrase IMO would be with two questions
1, Do you identify as male/female/other?
2, Do you identify as transgender?
I was aware of this, but I thought that simply leaving it as male, female, other would be insufficient and inconsiderate. And giving those two options leaves too much room for interpretation,...
I was aware of this, but I thought that simply leaving it as male, female, other would be insufficient and inconsiderate. And giving those two options leaves too much room for interpretation, because checking the boxes male and trans could mean either a FTM or a MTF person, as some people pre-transition could still see it as referring to their "original" gender. Though I don't know if people do that.
Thank you for the feedback, it'll help for next time.
In general, if a survey uses words like "identify," I'll assume it's referring to gender identity. Some I've seen make this even clearer by having a question for sex assigned at birth as well - I...
In general, if a survey uses words like "identify," I'll assume it's referring to gender identity. Some I've seen make this even clearer by having a question for sex assigned at birth as well - I don't think this is useful information to collect here though.
It can get ambiguous when there's only "Male/Female" and it's just "pick one."
Thank you for not making the question "Male/Female/Transgender," I've seen far too many of those.
also neither is "some college", also "unemployed" or "disabled". For good measure "Agnostic" isn't part of the religion section. There should've been a poll on which questions go on the poll :)
also neither is "some college", also "unemployed" or "disabled". For good measure "Agnostic" isn't part of the religion section.
There should've been a poll on which questions go on the poll :)
I was not aware that this was a thing, as I thought that Community College was the same as university. Apologies, I don't live in the US. That being said, I plan on expanding the education...
I was not aware that this was a thing, as I thought that Community College was the same as university. Apologies, I don't live in the US. That being said, I plan on expanding the education questions for the next year.
Not to mention that there are likely more than a few of us with both trade certifications and conventional degrees, or academic degrees in multiple fields. I'd definitely suggest that questions...
Not to mention that there are likely more than a few of us with both trade certifications and conventional degrees, or academic degrees in multiple fields.
I'd definitely suggest that questions have multiple checkbox options where applicable.
It would be nice if the sexuality question was multi-dimensional. It could be broken down into: How do you experience sexual attraction? a. Primarily based on aesthetic attraction (Allosexual) b....
It would be nice if the sexuality question was multi-dimensional. It could be broken down into:
How do you experience sexual attraction?
a. Primarily based on aesthetic attraction (Allosexual)
b. Primarily based on emotional connection (Demisexual)
c. Not at all or very little (Asexual or Gray-A)
To whom do you feel sexually attracted?
a. People of the opposite gender (Heterosexual)
b. People of the same gender (Homosexual)
c. People of both opposite or same gender (Bisexual)
d. Gender is not a consideration (Pansexual)
e. Not Applicable
My description of allosexuality might be off, so let me know.
Is there some sort of default label for how sexual attraction is experienced? I (like I assume, most people) base my very first impressions on first looks, which then turns into an attractions...
Is there some sort of default label for how sexual attraction is experienced? I (like I assume, most people) base my very first impressions on first looks, which then turns into an attractions based on a mix of the character/looks.
I'm using the term allosexuality very loosely. It really just means "any"-sexuality. It's a term commonly used among asexual people to describe non-asexual people. Many demisexual people identify...
I'm using the term allosexuality very loosely. It really just means "any"-sexuality. It's a term commonly used among asexual people to describe non-asexual people. Many demisexual people identify more strongly with asexuality than allosexuality just because asexuality and demisexuality are both sexual minorities. That kinda leaves allosexuality as the only appropriate term to describe "normal" attraction.
Most people experience sexual attraction as you describe. Initially it's solely based on looks. Later you can experience a compounded attraction that includes emotional connection. I hope there's a better term for it but don't know any.
Hm in this case I might add something like "Do you experience romantic attraction differently than the majority?" But I'm not sure. Not to step on any toes, but I'm critical of the move to put...
Hm in this case I might add something like "Do you experience romantic attraction differently than the majority?" But I'm not sure. Not to step on any toes, but I'm critical of the move to put labels on everything simply for the sake of having a label. Asexuality I view as valid because the complete absence of sexual attraction is a difference to the norm worth noting.
But when it comes to things like Why do I like this person? or What am I attracted to in people? I think it becomes much harder to describe and label can actively hinder any productive conversation.
On the other hand, what right do I have to not put it in, if people want it in? I try and weigh the advantages of it being useful information to collect and not bloating the form with useless questions too much, so people don't get put off by its length.
One solution might be to just have a question that says something like "Do you consider yourself to be on the asexual spectrum?" and one that says the same but for the aromantic spectrum if you...
One solution might be to just have a question that says something like "Do you consider yourself to be on the asexual spectrum?" and one that says the same but for the aromantic spectrum if you really want to get fancy. It doesn't necessarily include all the possible nuances and variations of such things, but it could work better for people who do recognize what it is and those who don't, rather than some people interpreting questions about how they feel attraction differently than others and potentially skewing the results.
When I clicked the link, I got this. Filling out forms shouldn't require JavaScript. They also call their website an "app". Its a nitpick but it annoys me. Its a website.
When I clicked the link, I got this.
You need to enable JavaScript to run this Blockstack app.
Filling out forms shouldn't require JavaScript.
They also call their website an "app". Its a nitpick but it annoys me. Its a website.
And I need to allow the site to send XHR to blockstack.org to even load the form and to azurewebsites.net to send the answer. It would be better if someone with a personal website hacked it...
And I need to allow the site to send XHR to blockstack.org to even load the form and to azurewebsites.net to send the answer. It would be better if someone with a personal website hacked it together in pure html overnight.
Hey @Grzmot, hope you’re doing okay. When I saw this thread I will admit I felt for you. Running online surveys is really hard, especially in nitpicky communities (I was one of the mods who ran the r/SpaceX surveys, it’s basically an invitation to be chastised and abused), and although people aren’t necessarily being mean here—the culmination of critical comments and super nitpicky opinions can certainly make it feel like you’re in the firing line!
Like come on, In the interests of kindness and positivity, is this really the thread to moan about how a website that describes itself as an “app” is “annoying”? Far out, chill!
Cheers mate, you're the cavalry that just arrived with compliments :^)
Thanks, I appreciate you looking out for me. And you're right, even though the feedback is all constructive and I think warranted, it still stings a little when people complain about stuff you put out there. But hey, nothing is perfect, and for my first attempt, I think I did alright. I can only improve it with my future attempts, with the knowledge that ultimately, I'll never please everyone cause that's impossible.
Hello everyone, after the recent dicussion about bringing back the Tildes census, as the people who organized it before weren't available anymore, I've decided to step up with my attempt. Please note, this is the first time I've done something like this, and I've made the questions similar to the last census. As those questions weren't available directly, I've followed the analysis of the results.
There are definitely ways for it to be improved, especially when it comes to work related and language related questions, but I didn't know how to approach the problem precisely, so I've opted to include what I think will be the most selected options (based on the last census). Most options have an Other choice if you are not satisfied with the presented choices. No option has to be answered, if you prefer not to give out any info about yourself.
Any ideas on how to improve it for next year are very much welcome, I hope you're satisfied with the form! I'll keep the form open for at least a week so everyone gets a chance to answer. After that, I'll try to analyze(visualize the data, though I don't know when I'll release it as exams are looming on the horizon menacingly. If someone else would volunteer to visualize the data earlier, that would be great.
Ideas on how to improve the census:
Thank you for doing this! Some feedback:
The occupation question could be more granular as well. There are so many "IT" personnel here that it makes sense to delve into industry and specialization.
I wasn't sure if "IT" included programming, since that can be called software engineering and "engineering" was an option.
I suppose it's asking more what your main OS is. I use Linux 99% of the time, but have a Windows partition for certain games. I wouldn't put Windows down if it were multiple choice, personally.
I don't have much of a "main" OS though. If I need to boot my Windows machine up for something (e.g. gaming) I'll do everything else (browsing, and whatever I'm currently doing) with that. Otherwise I use the Macbook.
Properly speaking, I guess my "main OS" is a Linux-based hypervisor, with a herd of miscellaneous VMs, and Windows happens to be the most used GUI... or Android devices?
On your first point, I made a single entry but seperated each language with a comma.
For my line, I put in "all of the above" for the OS choice as a write-in because I use them all approximately equally. I was expecting a multiple choice! Otherwise I am overall pleased with the survey.
Yeah this could use much improvement. What about manufacturers, lawyers, cashiers, restaurant workers, police officers and teachers? People that work multiple jobs? Unemployed people? Retirees? A better model might be this one, although it is pretty difficult to categorize employment. A better political model might be the one 8values uses. Questions about your income and upbringing might be helpful to determine if we're wealthier than average or not (although this is firmly in the group of questions that should have 'don't want to answer' as an option.) A question about theme usage and how important privacy is to you should probably be included, since they were included in the original census. 'For how many years have you been using the Internet' could be an interesting question to include in the census.
None of the answers are required to send off the form, this way I was able to avoid a "Prefer not to say" on any of those, in particular the personal question.
When it came to the political leaning I was aware that it wasn't the best way to ask it, but I didn't know how to put any better without the form becoming too bloated. Politics is a nuanced subject, and I don't think that left/right are sufficient enough terms. However, if I included them all, the list would probably be longer than the 196 countries I put in manually. The example you used, 8values, is a quiz that itself has another 70 questions. I think we should also take care to keep the census short as to not put people off when they open the form.
I cannot include every single job on this list, some sort of aggregation will have to be done to make further analysis of the data possible. I agree that my list was very short and by far not enough to describe everyone's job.
Income already varies greatly inbetween countries. In the US people usually make more and are taxed less, but only because you have a number of expenses people in other countries don't have, like healthcare. I don't know how much it would help with analyzing the demographic of Tildes.
Thank you for this list.
I cited an alternative :P
Admittedly, that's correct. Asking people what income percentile they are in their country is the closest we can come to a solution on this and doesn't account for inequality differences and currencies, although it would still be helpful to know if we're richer than average or not :P
You don't need to take the quest, you just need to rank yourself like on your current test, but on 4 axes.
Oh ok.
Just to jump on the 'better scale for politics' bandwagon: A one-dimensional political spectrum is too compressed to be particularly meaningful.
There are many suggested models for political spectra. Personally I think something like the three dimensions of the Vosem Cube can be insightful and could be captured with three scales, one each for:
That sounds like something that might nicely fit into a form. I'll look into it. Thanks for the suggestion!
Hey—it’s the user formerly known as @Kat, and I just wanted to thank you for taking this over and say that you’re doing a great job. Keep it up. :)
Great to see you around mate. News around your departure weren't optimistic, so it's great to see you come back.
Thanks for putting this together! I'm excited to see the results.
Unfortunately due to that last question someone that would otherwise be fine with the anonymous data is going to be a dick because they think it'll be funny to deny the rest of us meaningful data.
I don't know that people would say no to that just to be funny. A lot of people on here are genuinely protective of their privacy. I haven't filled out the survey yet, but looking at that, I'd lean towards saying no, but it depends on how the data would be released.
If the data were to be shared as individual survey entries, I know I wouldn't want it released. I'm open on here about being a teacher, and I doubt there are very many others on Tildes, so that one answer would either give away the rest of my demographic data or help someone narrow it down to only a few entries, even if everything submitted is technically "anonymous".
It's a bit like those browser fingerprint tests where seemingly innocuous info can deanonymize you. If you're a monolingual American IT professional you might blend in with the rest but probably most people here are pretty unique when you combine a few of the fields.
The site doesn't allow for the export of survey data anyway, as I've found out after making it. This means you get a few graphs and a few words about those graphs and nothing else anyway
Wow, that's a bit surprising. I would think data export would be an essential feature of a service like this. Sorry to hear that.
Can you see the disaggregated data as the form owner, or do they only show you summaries as well?
I can see each and every filled out form, with handy graphs that aggregate each answered question. Which means that the missing export function isn't that big of an issue.
...Except for the Where are you from question. I meant well when I entered every country that existed, but the amount of options broke the site and now I can't see the actual graph. I'll probably have to extract the data by hand, sigh.
EDIT: Oh no, the site has broken completely right now and I can't see any of the responses.
Fuck.
Well a search query is always a start.
Form making sites
Privacy conscious form making sites
I'll redo the survey most likely with updated questions to reflect the valuable feedback I've gotten. I'm currently rebuilding the updated form using JotForm, which seems to be established enough that it won't break after 65 submissions.
Well, guess you're gonna need to make the census again anyway :l
I guess @cwagner was ultimately right, you should have picked a better site. Well that's a waste of text for a lot of people.
Previous survey results here
The education level question is a bit limited. No inclusion of trade apprenticeships (welding etc) or professional qualifications. Not all education/qualifications are academic, and some are as good, if not better than having a degree.
You are of course correct. I'll add that to the list for next year.
63 people already took the time to reply, with quite a lot of content in both freeform answers. I'd rather make the census better each year (I plan to do it next year again, barring some sudden changes), however I'll probably post a topic next year in preparation for it to get more feedback before actually posting the form.
It's not a massive issue, but it's something I bump up against a lot.
What would be examples for professional qualifications that could somehow aggregate the question? The amount of certificates that you can get for your job is vast.
Maybe it could just be as basic as something like
Trade e.g Electrician/Blacksmith etc
Professional e.g Chef
All three of these require an apprenticeship first, at least in my country. There's no real difference between the three.
I'll remake the thread with a screenshot of the current questions so I can take in a final round of ideas.
FYI binary trans people don't identify themselves as trans as their gender identity, someone transitioning male to female would refer to themselves as female. A better way to phrase IMO would be with two questions
1, Do you identify as male/female/other?
2, Do you identify as transgender?
I was aware of this, but I thought that simply leaving it as male, female, other would be insufficient and inconsiderate. And giving those two options leaves too much room for interpretation, because checking the boxes male and trans could mean either a FTM or a MTF person, as some people pre-transition could still see it as referring to their "original" gender. Though I don't know if people do that.
Thank you for the feedback, it'll help for next time.
In general, if a survey uses words like "identify," I'll assume it's referring to gender identity. Some I've seen make this even clearer by having a question for sex assigned at birth as well - I don't think this is useful information to collect here though.
It can get ambiguous when there's only "Male/Female" and it's just "pick one."
Thank you for not making the question "Male/Female/Transgender," I've seen far too many of those.
An associate's degree isn't included under the education question
also neither is "some college", also "unemployed" or "disabled". For good measure "Agnostic" isn't part of the religion section.
There should've been a poll on which questions go on the poll :)
I was not aware that this was a thing, as I thought that Community College was the same as university. Apologies, I don't live in the US. That being said, I plan on expanding the education questions for the next year.
Not to mention that there are likely more than a few of us with both trade certifications and conventional degrees, or academic degrees in multiple fields.
I'd definitely suggest that questions have multiple checkbox options where applicable.
It would be nice if the sexuality question was multi-dimensional. It could be broken down into:
a. Primarily based on aesthetic attraction (Allosexual)
b. Primarily based on emotional connection (Demisexual)
c. Not at all or very little (Asexual or Gray-A)
a. People of the opposite gender (Heterosexual)
b. People of the same gender (Homosexual)
c. People of both opposite or same gender (Bisexual)
d. Gender is not a consideration (Pansexual)
e. Not Applicable
My description of allosexuality might be off, so let me know.
also maybe separating romantic from sexual attraction. thank you for stepping forwards and organizing this @Grzmot!
Is there some sort of default label for how sexual attraction is experienced? I (like I assume, most people) base my very first impressions on first looks, which then turns into an attractions based on a mix of the character/looks.
I'm using the term allosexuality very loosely. It really just means "any"-sexuality. It's a term commonly used among asexual people to describe non-asexual people. Many demisexual people identify more strongly with asexuality than allosexuality just because asexuality and demisexuality are both sexual minorities. That kinda leaves allosexuality as the only appropriate term to describe "normal" attraction.
Most people experience sexual attraction as you describe. Initially it's solely based on looks. Later you can experience a compounded attraction that includes emotional connection. I hope there's a better term for it but don't know any.
Hm in this case I might add something like "Do you experience romantic attraction differently than the majority?" But I'm not sure. Not to step on any toes, but I'm critical of the move to put labels on everything simply for the sake of having a label. Asexuality I view as valid because the complete absence of sexual attraction is a difference to the norm worth noting.
But when it comes to things like Why do I like this person? or What am I attracted to in people? I think it becomes much harder to describe and label can actively hinder any productive conversation.
On the other hand, what right do I have to not put it in, if people want it in? I try and weigh the advantages of it being useful information to collect and not bloating the form with useless questions too much, so people don't get put off by its length.
One solution might be to just have a question that says something like "Do you consider yourself to be on the asexual spectrum?" and one that says the same but for the aromantic spectrum if you really want to get fancy. It doesn't necessarily include all the possible nuances and variations of such things, but it could work better for people who do recognize what it is and those who don't, rather than some people interpreting questions about how they feel attraction differently than others and potentially skewing the results.
Asexual is offered as choice in the v2 census. I'm unsure if I should offer something in regards to the romantic spectrum.
I looked for a privacy conscious alternative to Google forms after a few people said they weren't comfortable with using it.
I didn't, I merely provided an explanation as to why I used this site.
When I clicked the link, I got this.
Filling out forms shouldn't require JavaScript.
They also call their website an "app". Its a nitpick but it annoys me. Its a website.
And I need to allow the site to send XHR to blockstack.org to even load the form and to azurewebsites.net to send the answer. It would be better if someone with a personal website hacked it together in pure html overnight.
Showed up for me too until I gave Blockstack.org an exception on uMatrix, if you use some kind of blocker like that.
ah good call