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Weekly coronavirus-related chat, questions, and minor updates - week of May 10

This thread is posted weekly, and is intended as a place for more-casual discussion of the coronavirus and questions/updates that may not warrant their own dedicated topics. Tell us about what the situation is like where you live!

23 comments

  1. [2]
    skybrian
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    FDA authorizes Pfizer coronavirus vaccine for adolescents 12 to 15 years old [...]

    FDA authorizes Pfizer coronavirus vaccine for adolescents 12 to 15 years old

    Expert advisers to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention are scheduled to meet Wednesday to recommend how the vaccine should be used in that age group, and the vaccine can be administered as soon as the CDC director signs off on the recommendation.

    [...]

    Moderna announced Thursday that an initial analysis of its teen trial found its vaccine was 96 percent effective among participants who received at least one dose. Moderna is in discussions with regulators about the data. Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna are testing their vaccines in children as young as infants. Johnson & Johnson is planning pediatric trials of its single-shot vaccine.

    14 votes
    1. teaearlgraycold
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      It’s not perfect, but this will provide a much needed boost to America’s vaccination rate.

      It’s not perfect, but this will provide a much needed boost to America’s vaccination rate.

      5 votes
  2. [2]
    ras
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    Last Friday marked two weeks post-vaccination for me and my wife. We went out to eat for the first time in forever Saturday night. We're still being pretty cautious for the moment, we ate outside,...

    Last Friday marked two weeks post-vaccination for me and my wife. We went out to eat for the first time in forever Saturday night. We're still being pretty cautious for the moment, we ate outside, but it did feel like a small return to somewhat normalcy.

    13 votes
    1. Omnicrola
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      Went out to eat with my BIL yesterday (we are all 4+ weeks vaccinated), to a particularly nice local restaurant. It was simultaneously a huge relief, and surreal with the staff all wearing masks.

      Went out to eat with my BIL yesterday (we are all 4+ weeks vaccinated), to a particularly nice local restaurant. It was simultaneously a huge relief, and surreal with the staff all wearing masks.

      9 votes
  3. [3]
    monarda
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    Got my second dose of the Moderna today, and I am wired as fuck. Like I haven’t felt this wired since my meth days. I’m so wired my family is concerned. I can’t sit down, I’m pacing in circles, I...

    Got my second dose of the Moderna today, and I am wired as fuck. Like I haven’t felt this wired since my meth days. I’m so wired my family is concerned. I can’t sit down, I’m pacing in circles, I need to do something, but there’s nothing I want to do. I think if I were at home I’d be in the garden.

    Also my husband got his second dose of the Pfizer vaccine on Sunday. That means when I get home, my household will be fully vaccinated. Yay, monarda’s family! Husband and I are going to put our “I am vaccinated” stickers on our masks.

    I went and picked up my free donut from Crispy Creme that they give you for showing your vaccination card!

    10 votes
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      Atvelonis
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      I totally feel that. I got my second Moderna shot on Wednesday and was exploding with a strange manner of energy yesterday evening—I would have gone and done some sprints to loosen up, except that...

      I totally feel that. I got my second Moderna shot on Wednesday and was exploding with a strange manner of energy yesterday evening—I would have gone and done some sprints to loosen up, except that any lateral motion of my arm was so painful as to prevent me from moving. The spot around the injection site was sore, but within a few hours of the shot, all the nerves in my arm were lighting up. I couldn't help but amuse myself by imagining that I had gotten a new superpower, shooting laser beams from my fist or something, and just had to figure out how to use it. If I sat absolutely still my arm didn't hurt, just tickled, a feeling that also extended to my core (which was both agitating and really funny). I'm shocked that I was able to get any work done considering how on edge I was. I somehow fell asleep for the night, and upon waking up I was sure that the most intense part of the sensory overload was now behind me, but I'm still a bit "wired" as you say, haha. But more than anything else, I'm just glad that I'm fully vaccinated now.

      7 votes
      1. monarda
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        Congrats on being fully vaccinated! I did not wake up wired. I crashed and burned last night hard. By the time I crawled into bed, I felt like I had a cold and was sweating, but had the chills....

        Congrats on being fully vaccinated!

        I did not wake up wired. I crashed and burned last night hard. By the time I crawled into bed, I felt like I had a cold and was sweating, but had the chills. Woke up late this morning feeling like crap - joints aching, headache, and nausea. Had a cigarette and a coffee, and went back to bed. Slept till 3, woke up with swollen lymph nodes, still had a headache, and joints still hurting. Went back to bed, slept an hour, and now I feel mostly normal, though lymph nodes still swollen. I AM SO HAPPY TO BE FULLY VACCINATED!

        7 votes
  4. skybrian
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    Just 2% of SARS-CoV-2−positive individuals carry 90% of the virus circulating in communities

    Just 2% of SARS-CoV-2−positive individuals carry 90% of the virus circulating in communities

    We analyzed data from saliva-based COVID-19 screening deployed on the University of Colorado Boulder campus. Our dataset is unique in that all SARS-CoV-2−positive individuals reported no symptoms at the time of saliva collection, and therefore were infected but asymptomatic or presymptomatic. We found that 1) the distribution of viral loads observed in our asymptomatic college population was indistinguishable from what has been reported in hospitalized populations; 2) regardless of symptomatic status, approximately 50% of individuals who test positive for SARS-CoV-2 seem to be in noninfectious phases of the infection; and 3) just 2% of infected individuals carry 90% of the virions circulating within communities, serving as viral “supercarriers” and likely also superspreaders.

    9 votes
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    cfabbro
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    A World Health Organization official said Monday it is reclassifying the highly contagious triple-mutant Covid variant spreading in India as a "variant of concern," indicating that it's become a...

    A World Health Organization official said Monday it is reclassifying the highly contagious triple-mutant Covid variant spreading in India as a "variant of concern," indicating that it's become a global health threat.

    Maria Van Kerkhove, the WHO's technical lead for Covid-19, said the agency will provide more details in its weekly situation report on the pandemic Tuesday but added that the variant, known as B.1.617, has been found in preliminary studies to spread more easily than the original virus and there is some evidence it may able to evade some of the protections provided by vaccines. The shots, however, are still considered effective.

    "And as such we are classifying this as a variant of concern at the global level," she said during a press conference. "Even though there is increased transmissibility demonstrated by some preliminary studies, we need much more information about this virus variant in this lineage in all of the sub lineages, so we need more sequencing, targeted sequencing to be done."

    A variant can be labeled as "of concern" if it has been shown to be more contagious, more deadly or more resistant to current vaccines and treatments, according to the WHO.

    The group issued a clarification Monday to their earlier remarks, saying that current data shows the existing Covid-19 vaccines "remain effective at preventing disease and death in people infected with this variant."

    The international organization has already designated three other variants with the classification: B.1.1.7, which was first detected in the U.K. and is the most prevalent variant currently circulating throughout the U.S.; B.1.351, first detected in South Africa, and the P.1 variant, first detected in Brazil.

    9 votes
    1. spit-evil-olive-tips
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      Tweet thread from Trevor Bedford, who I've been following for virology stuff since the beginning of the pandemic: https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1392132862338469890.html...

      Tweet thread from Trevor Bedford, who I've been following for virology stuff since the beginning of the pandemic:

      https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1392132862338469890.html

      https://twitter.com/trvrb/status/1392132862338469890

      The observed rapid growth of this (sub)-lineage in India and elsewhere would suggest that this virus is potentially highly transmissible. If faster growth than B.1.1.7 in India and in the UK is conclusive, it would suggest that this lineage will spread widely.

      This chart from tweet #7 in that thread looks particularly hockey-stick-ish, in a bad way.

      7 votes
    2. teaearlgraycold
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      So what does this mean? A different efficacy rate? Nothing? Anything?

      there is some evidence it may able to evade some of the protections provided by vaccines

      current data shows the existing Covid-19 vaccines "remain effective at preventing disease and death in people infected with this variant."

      So what does this mean? A different efficacy rate? Nothing? Anything?

      2 votes
    3. [3]
      Autoxidation
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      I'm a bit concerned we haven't seen countries proactively banning travel to and from India, or anywhere this variant is spreading quickly. In the US, I'm not sure if it's because the nature of...

      I'm a bit concerned we haven't seen countries proactively banning travel to and from India, or anywhere this variant is spreading quickly. In the US, I'm not sure if it's because the nature of travel bans, or the thinking that the vaccine will make us all okay.

      1 vote
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        stu2b50
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        Haven't they? From a quick google, countries that have an air travel ban to and from India include Australia Bangladesh Belgium Cambodia Canada Djibouti France Germany Hong Kong Indonesia Iran...

        Haven't they? From a quick google, countries that have an air travel ban to and from India include

        Australia
        Bangladesh
        Belgium
        Cambodia
        Canada
        Djibouti
        France
        Germany
        Hong Kong
        Indonesia
        Iran
        Italy
        Kenya
        Kuwait
        Malawi
        Maldives
        Nepal
        Netherlands
        New Zealand
        Nigeria
        Oman
        Pakistan
        Philippines
        Portugal
        Saudi Arabia
        Seychelles
        Singapore
        Taiwan
        Thailand
        United Arab Emirates
        United Kingdom
        United States

        8 votes
  6. JXM
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    I live in an area that isn’t doing particularly well, due to a large population of college students who just don’t care about anyone but themselves and haven’t ever followed the local laws. My...

    I live in an area that isn’t doing particularly well, due to a large population of college students who just don’t care about anyone but themselves and haven’t ever followed the local laws.

    My best friends and I are all fully vaccinated now and hung out for the first time in over a year. We’ve all been friends since grade school and two of us have family members that are extremely at-risk so we’ve all been extra careful around each other.

    We’ve been hanging out virtually but it was extremely nice to get together and see my friends again.

    8 votes
  7. skybrian
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    Get vaccinated in Ohio and get a shot at $1 million, Gov. Mike DeWine announces

    Get vaccinated in Ohio and get a shot at $1 million, Gov. Mike DeWine announces

    "Two weeks from tonight on May 26th, we will announce a winner of a separate drawing for adults who have received at least their first dose of the vaccine. This announcement will occur each Wednesday for five weeks, and the winner each Wednesday will receive one million dollars,"DeWine said in a series of tweets.

    7 votes
  8. [2]
    skybrian
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    Delay in giving second jabs of Pfizer vaccine improves immunity

    Delay in giving second jabs of Pfizer vaccine improves immunity

    A study led by the University of Birmingham in collaboration with Public Health England found that antibodies against the virus were three-and-a-half times higher in those who had the second shot after 12 weeks compared with those who had it after a three-week interval.

    Most people who have both shots of the vaccine will be well protected regardless of the timing, but the stronger response from the extra delay might prolong protection because antibody levels naturally wane over time.

    7 votes
    1. rogue_cricket
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      This is a relief to know - I am scheduled to get the first shot of Pfizer soon, but have heard that the second shot will take up to 12 weeks. I was wondering if it would have an effect on its...

      This is a relief to know - I am scheduled to get the first shot of Pfizer soon, but have heard that the second shot will take up to 12 weeks. I was wondering if it would have an effect on its efficacy, and my instinct from my layperson knowledge on how it worked was that it would be worse.

      6 votes
  9. [2]
    spit-evil-olive-tips
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    A rare “black fungus” that invades the brain is being increasingly seen in vulnerable patients in India, including those with Covid-19, as the health system continues to struggle in the midst of...
    6 votes
    1. Omnicrola
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      I remembered this Radiolab episode from last year that talked about this fungus. They do a bit of theorycrafting in relation to climate change around why this is becoming a more prevalent threat...

      I remembered this Radiolab episode from last year that talked about this fungus. They do a bit of theorycrafting in relation to climate change around why this is becoming a more prevalent threat (even before the pandemic).

      8 votes
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    rogue_cricket
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    Just booked my 1st vaccination appointment today, getting stabbed on May 21st. My friends also got in early enough to get appointments around that time. Having a timeline is nice! I am excited to...

    Just booked my 1st vaccination appointment today, getting stabbed on May 21st. My friends also got in early enough to get appointments around that time.

    Having a timeline is nice! I am excited to be vaccinated before the summer is all done.

    I give myself 50/50 odds on crying in front of the nurse.

    6 votes
    1. monarda
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      I cried at the nurse before my first shot. She looked at me and said, “I won’t have none of that here,” and my tears dried up, and it was over, and I was shuffled off to the waiting area before I...

      I cried at the nurse before my first shot. She looked at me and said, “I won’t have none of that here,” and my tears dried up, and it was over, and I was shuffled off to the waiting area before I could even think about what had just happened :)

      6 votes
  11. spit-evil-olive-tips
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    From Zeynep Tufekci: Maybe We Need Masks Indoors Just a Bit Longer

    From Zeynep Tufekci: Maybe We Need Masks Indoors Just a Bit Longer

    On Thursday, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention updated its guidance to say it did not believe that fully vaccinated people needed to wear masks or distance indoors or out, with a few exceptions, like when using public transportation.

    The agency could say that the fully vaccinated need not worry about personal risk or transmitting the virus in a private setting. But rules for behavior in public still need to stay in place indoors to protect the unvaccinated and the immunocompromised, because we’re all in this together.

    Vaccines are driving down the epidemic. But the government should have considered keeping up protections a little longer because of a process called exponential decay. Essentially, on the way up, even a week or two of delay in enforcing safety precautions can be catastrophic because the process feeds on itself to amplify very, very fast. On the way down, it’s the reverse. The spread will be contained much faster if multiple measures are combined. Then, at a time to be determined by epidemiologists, we can get to the point that those who are not vaccinated, for whatever reason, can be far better protected because there will be far less virus in circulation.

    5 votes