This is honestly, the most beautiful looking movie that Illumination has ever made. It’s incredible how much their tech has improved considering they started off as the “cheap as possible”...
This is honestly, the most beautiful looking movie that Illumination has ever made. It’s incredible how much their tech has improved considering they started off as the “cheap as possible” animated business.
As far as the actual movie, it looks fine. I’m sure it’ll get mixed-positive reviews, if Minions: The Rise of Gru got relatively positive reception from critics this probably will too.
Honestly it’s getting kind of hard to tell what things are expensive when it comes to animated movies. Generally speaking, the things that are most expensive are the things that take the most...
Honestly it’s getting kind of hard to tell what things are expensive when it comes to animated movies.
Generally speaking, the things that are most expensive are the things that take the most human time. The more impressive things in this trailer are mixtures of partical effects and physics simulations, which is to say that humans give direction but the computers are actually doing the animation.
The places where illumination generally saves the most money is in copy-pasting models and limiting the environments they have to create to simple indoor shots or relatively small outdoor areas. Compare this to Moana where every villager was unique and they actually modeled the entire island of Motu Nui.
Though to be frank it’s not the cost savings that bother me about Illumination’s productions. By all means animated movies should be made on more of a budget and the Disney way of producing them is arguably very wasteful. The thing that bothers me with illumination is that they simply aren’t great at storytelling.
I’ll watch this movie, but in 5 years time I will probably remember it with as much detail as I do the Peanuts movie now.
I've always felt Illumination's rendering was pretty good. Where they save a ton of money is on environments and character designs. They limit the number of unique locales in their films, and...
I've always felt Illumination's rendering was pretty good. Where they save a ton of money is on environments and character designs. They limit the number of unique locales in their films, and background characters are often copy+pasted and given a palette swap. They also don't try to push anything new. Most Pixar and Disney Animation Studios films spend a hefty amount of money developing technology that enables some new effect. Cars pushed ray tracing, Frozen invested heavily in making realistic snow, etc.
I liked the trailer. Bowser seemed badass, which I love to see, and the humor seemed on-point for Mario. The only negative thing I can really say is that I don't like that it's just Chris Pratt's...
I liked the trailer. Bowser seemed badass, which I love to see, and the humor seemed on-point for Mario. The only negative thing I can really say is that I don't like that it's just Chris Pratt's regular voice. Still think using Charles Martinet would've been preferred, but idk maybe people are right that the voice wouldn't work well for a full-length film. Heck even Chris Pratt with a Brooklyn accent as a nod to the 80s/90s cartoons would've been preferable over "hey it's me, Chris Pratt".
He does have a Brooklyn accent near the end of the trailer (when they do the wide shot of the Mushroom Kingdom) but he really does just sound like Chris Pratt still.
He does have a Brooklyn accent near the end of the trailer (when they do the wide shot of the Mushroom Kingdom) but he really does just sound like Chris Pratt still.
Looks okay. And yeah, I do think Chris Pratt was a very good choice. I feel that a lot of the people hating this choice are thinking of buff Jurassic-franchise Chris Pratt, but anyone that got to...
Looks okay. And yeah, I do think Chris Pratt was a very good choice. I feel that a lot of the people hating this choice are thinking of buff Jurassic-franchise Chris Pratt, but anyone that got to know and love goofy Andy from Parks and Rec will understand just how great that casting really is.
I was just expecting straight-voiced Chris Pratt, but he at least rubbed a little Brooklyn into the character which made it alright. Keegan Michael-Key as Toad sounded pretty solid, too.
I was just expecting straight-voiced Chris Pratt, but he at least rubbed a little Brooklyn into the character which made it alright. Keegan Michael-Key as Toad sounded pretty solid, too.
A lot of the hate that Pratt gets is over-correction from the mid-2010s when he was getting called the next Harrison Ford (despite not possessing the talent that Ford has).
A lot of the hate that Pratt gets is over-correction from the mid-2010s when he was getting called the next Harrison Ford (despite not possessing the talent that Ford has).
Jeez, I thought they'd at least try to make Chris Pratt fit the character, but he's just speaking normally. That really doesn't work, and not in a funny way either. Jack Black's Bowser is okay I...
Jeez, I thought they'd at least try to make Chris Pratt fit the character, but he's just speaking normally. That really doesn't work, and not in a funny way either. Jack Black's Bowser is okay I guess, if they're going for a sillier version of the character.
The character designs are really unsettling as well but otherwise it's visually...fine, I guess.
Feels like Charles Martinet really got shafted, if you ask me. He's been the canonical voice of Mario for decades. I hope they offered him the role and he declined, otherwise frankly the recast is...
Feels like Charles Martinet really got shafted, if you ask me. He's been the canonical voice of Mario for decades. I hope they offered him the role and he declined, otherwise frankly the recast is an insult.
I've seen this take a lot, and it's weird to me. Martinet's Mario barely talks, and when he does it's with the most stereotypical Italian accent imaginable. It's not the sort of thing that you...
I've seen this take a lot, and it's weird to me. Martinet's Mario barely talks, and when he does it's with the most stereotypical Italian accent imaginable. It's not the sort of thing that you would want in a feature length movie. At least, it's not the sort of thing I would want.
Then again, I'm old enough to remember Mario having a Brooklyn accent, so maybe my view is skewed.
I'm very tickled by the fact that the trailer for the Mario movie is also doing that trope of playing a well-known song but in a slightly spooky and mournful way before rising into an "epic"...
I'm very tickled by the fact that the trailer for the Mario movie is also doing that trope of playing a well-known song but in a slightly spooky and mournful way before rising into an "epic" expression of the same theme.
This is honestly, the most beautiful looking movie that Illumination has ever made. It’s incredible how much their tech has improved considering they started off as the “cheap as possible” animated business.
As far as the actual movie, it looks fine. I’m sure it’ll get mixed-positive reviews, if Minions: The Rise of Gru got relatively positive reception from critics this probably will too.
All in all, it probably makes a billion dollars.
Honestly it’s getting kind of hard to tell what things are expensive when it comes to animated movies.
Generally speaking, the things that are most expensive are the things that take the most human time. The more impressive things in this trailer are mixtures of partical effects and physics simulations, which is to say that humans give direction but the computers are actually doing the animation.
The places where illumination generally saves the most money is in copy-pasting models and limiting the environments they have to create to simple indoor shots or relatively small outdoor areas. Compare this to Moana where every villager was unique and they actually modeled the entire island of Motu Nui.
Though to be frank it’s not the cost savings that bother me about Illumination’s productions. By all means animated movies should be made on more of a budget and the Disney way of producing them is arguably very wasteful. The thing that bothers me with illumination is that they simply aren’t great at storytelling.
I’ll watch this movie, but in 5 years time I will probably remember it with as much detail as I do the Peanuts movie now.
Maybe I'm a bit dim, but it looks like "competent 2020s CGI" to me. Good, 100%. Solid. Above average. But it doesn't strike me as phenomenal.
I've always felt Illumination's rendering was pretty good. Where they save a ton of money is on environments and character designs. They limit the number of unique locales in their films, and background characters are often copy+pasted and given a palette swap. They also don't try to push anything new. Most Pixar and Disney Animation Studios films spend a hefty amount of money developing technology that enables some new effect. Cars pushed ray tracing, Frozen invested heavily in making realistic snow, etc.
That sounds honestly pretty ideal for a Mario movie in an animated style, where we'd expect a bunch of background characters with minor palette swaps.
I meant to mention the R&D aspect a while back, but I completely forgot about it.
Honestly, this is one of my favorite pages on the internet.
To give another example, Monster's Inc was a big push in realistic CGI hair because of Sully's fur.
I liked the trailer. Bowser seemed badass, which I love to see, and the humor seemed on-point for Mario. The only negative thing I can really say is that I don't like that it's just Chris Pratt's regular voice. Still think using Charles Martinet would've been preferred, but idk maybe people are right that the voice wouldn't work well for a full-length film. Heck even Chris Pratt with a Brooklyn accent as a nod to the 80s/90s cartoons would've been preferable over "hey it's me, Chris Pratt".
He does have a Brooklyn accent near the end of the trailer (when they do the wide shot of the Mushroom Kingdom) but he really does just sound like Chris Pratt still.
Looks okay. And yeah, I do think Chris Pratt was a very good choice. I feel that a lot of the people hating this choice are thinking of buff Jurassic-franchise Chris Pratt, but anyone that got to know and love goofy Andy from Parks and Rec will understand just how great that casting really is.
I was just expecting straight-voiced Chris Pratt, but he at least rubbed a little Brooklyn into the character which made it alright. Keegan Michael-Key as Toad sounded pretty solid, too.
A lot of the hate that Pratt gets is over-correction from the mid-2010s when he was getting called the next Harrison Ford (despite not possessing the talent that Ford has).
Didn't know that. But I'll say this: Harrison Ford is probably one of the most overrated actors that I happen to love.
Jeez, I thought they'd at least try to make Chris Pratt fit the character, but he's just speaking normally. That really doesn't work, and not in a funny way either. Jack Black's Bowser is okay I guess, if they're going for a sillier version of the character.
The character designs are really unsettling as well but otherwise it's visually...fine, I guess.
Feels like Charles Martinet really got shafted, if you ask me. He's been the canonical voice of Mario for decades. I hope they offered him the role and he declined, otherwise frankly the recast is an insult.
I've seen this take a lot, and it's weird to me. Martinet's Mario barely talks, and when he does it's with the most stereotypical Italian accent imaginable. It's not the sort of thing that you would want in a feature length movie. At least, it's not the sort of thing I would want.
Then again, I'm old enough to remember Mario having a Brooklyn accent, so maybe my view is skewed.
Isn't Bowser usually sillier than this in the games?
I'm very tickled by the fact that the trailer for the Mario movie is also doing that trope of playing a well-known song but in a slightly spooky and mournful way before rising into an "epic" expression of the same theme.
trailer dubbed with original Mario sounds
Anyone else getting strong Mushroom Hill Zone vibes from their take on the Mushroom Kingdom?