I don't doubt that many of these movies will be shitty. I think Barbie was a success because Mattel and Warner Bros let the artists make the movie they wanted. Some of these ideas seem good and it...
I don't doubt that many of these movies will be shitty. I think Barbie was a success because Mattel and Warner Bros let the artists make the movie they wanted. Some of these ideas seem good and it appears that there are real artists who have a vision for these IPs. Let's just hope that Mattel learned that hands off is the right approach and doesn't start to get any ideas that they know how to make a better movie than the experienced writers, directors, and producers.
Based on the trailers (haven't seen it yet), Barbie is also pretty meta compared to most toy-based movies. It's not set in the Barbie universe, it's about Barbie the doll in the real world. It's...
Based on the trailers (haven't seen it yet), Barbie is also pretty meta compared to most toy-based movies. It's not set in the Barbie universe, it's about Barbie the doll in the real world. It's built off decades of pop culture surrounding Barbie, pop culture that appeals to all ages due to those decades of existence. If it was just some random doll made for the movie, I don't think it would be nearly as successful.
Barney and Polly Pocket just don't have that same draw and power. They're "niche" compared to Barbie, crazy as it is to call Barney that. They didn't have the consistent strong presence Barbie has to appeal to all age demographics.
...though if they do try the semi-meta approach with Barney, I hope they can somehow reference the fact the "I Love You" song has been used for torture.
You're not too far off. The movie is more about the concept of Barbie and how it has affected society moreso than the products themselves - though it certainly does have a reverence for those...
You're not too far off. The movie is more about the concept of Barbie and how it has affected society moreso than the products themselves - though it certainly does have a reverence for those products.
Compare that to another somewhat recent movie about a series of dolls, Jem and the Holograms, where that relationship was basically ignored because Jem was a person in the movie's universe. Though to be fair, that movie had many other problems.
Polly Pocket does have a relatively decent Netflix show. It leans into the small toy aspect by giving the characters the ability to become tiny, but beyond that the toy influence is barely there....
Polly Pocket does have a relatively decent Netflix show. It leans into the small toy aspect by giving the characters the ability to become tiny, but beyond that the toy influence is barely there. Granted, it's not a massive big budget show so I'm sure the writers were just told to make it Polly Pocket enough that they could use it for marketing toys. A hollywood movie is likely to have plenty of corporate meddling.
To be honest of all of them I feel like Polly Pocket would actually be good fodder for a show/movie that doesn't go all meta. Surprised to hear there's already a show. And if they do Polly Pocket,...
To be honest of all of them I feel like Polly Pocket would actually be good fodder for a show/movie that doesn't go all meta. Surprised to hear there's already a show.
And if they do Polly Pocket, they gotta do Mighty Max!
Thomas is pretty dark already if you pay close attention to and read the undertones of the plots. Was recently visiting in-laws and my nephew is a big Thomas fan and was watching "Day of the...
Thomas is pretty dark already if you pay close attention to and read the undertones of the plots. Was recently visiting in-laws and my nephew is a big Thomas fan and was watching "Day of the Diesels" which is a pretty thinly guised class/race war about the Diesels being dirty, devious, living in a neglected ghetto, and sparking a revolution to take over the clean/nice neighborhood after their multiple requests to be heard for equal treatment and attention are ignored.
They magically start being paid attention to and get what they need when the upper class Steam engines (that burn coal but are somehow "cleaner" than the Diesels) find those lower class trains in their neighborhood. It's like revolution works or something...
My nephew kept repeating the catchphrase of the episode "Diesels are devious" and, much to his father's horror and his mother's amusement, I kept piping in things like "I don't know, sure sounds like the needs of the workers aren't being addressed and they're just trying to better their position." "Diesels are devious" met with "Are you sure about that buddy, they live in a bad area and just want to have their neighborhood to be bright and shiny like the Steamworks." "Diesels are devious" met with "Sometimes you have to take things away from those that don't appreciate it to make them realize that not everyone is as privileged as they are."
So on and so forth. He doesn't understand because he's five, but it sure was entertaining for everyone else but the father in the room.
Honestly! That was exactly my thought. Those trains could be pretty brutal to each other and get in some sticky situations; the memes show the way forward.
Honestly! That was exactly my thought. Those trains could be pretty brutal to each other and get in some sticky situations; the memes show the way forward.
I think it was We Hate Movies that predicted a Barney reboot recently, complete with a trailer that has a sad Victorian ghost cover of the I Love You, You Love Me song. And Polly Pocket? There’s a...
I think it was We Hate Movies that predicted a Barney reboot recently, complete with a trailer that has a sad Victorian ghost cover of the I Love You, You Love Me song.
And Polly Pocket? There’s a thing I haven’t thought about for a long time. Do they still make those? Maybe this at least opens the door for a Mighty Max movie.
Still make Polly pockets, daughter has them. My son's play with my mighty max... Don't make them anymore. Creator/director/producer/star of "Girls"on HBO is making it. They have Vin diesel for...
Still make Polly pockets, daughter has them. My son's play with my mighty max... Don't make them anymore.
Creator/director/producer/star of "Girls"on HBO is making it.
They have Vin diesel for rock em sock em robots, hot wheels with JJ Abrahams, even Tom Hanks is in one of them
Real Steel was one of the most popular movies on Netflix at the end of 2021, beginning of 2022 when it was added. There are/were talks of a direct sequel because of the resurgence of popularity,...
The parallel Jellyverse extends into clear/translucent-shelled electronics from the 90s. Jelly Shoes have to team up with Jelly Bracelets to find the clear-shelled electronics universe and save it...
The parallel Jellyverse extends into clear/translucent-shelled electronics from the 90s. Jelly Shoes have to team up with Jelly Bracelets to find the clear-shelled electronics universe and save it from Y2K.
Give me unlimited cross overs. Barney riding a hot wheels monster truck into battle to fight Godzilla. King Kong with the steel chair out of nowhere. Pacific Rim Kaiju everywhere. Ken and Barbie...
Give me unlimited cross overs.
Barney riding a hot wheels monster truck into battle to fight Godzilla. King Kong with the steel chair out of nowhere. Pacific Rim Kaiju everywhere.
Ken and Barbie cooking show plays on a broken TV.
Buzz lightyear arrives with a tactical star command nuke to take them all out with woody in toe.
I think it'd be pretty funny if there's a Mattel executive who finally 'gets' it and lets the artists get all meta and edgy with their IP. We want to be advertised to without feeling like we're...
I think it'd be pretty funny if there's a Mattel executive who finally 'gets' it and lets the artists get all meta and edgy with their IP. We want to be advertised to without feeling like we're being advertised to.
Community (the TV show) had hilarious mocking product placements for Honda.
This one where they have a Corporate Human who's literally owned by Honda and has to be a walking infomercial.
"I can't shake this fear of losing even one small part of what Honda has to offer."
"My God... you're level 7 susceptible."
Or this one where Abed has a prerecorded driving monologue that sounds like a car commercial narration that he plays while the Dean is riding along, freaking him out.
Imagine a story about Barney... outside the suit. He has to be a beloved children's figure inside the suit. But outside of it, he's struggling with his personal demons and existence.
So... While I agree that it's a Horrible Idea to try and make any sort of Barney movie (Even Death to Smoochie only did okayish at best, I think- and that was a completely anti-Barney movie), I"ve...
So... While I agree that it's a Horrible Idea to try and make any sort of Barney movie (Even Death to Smoochie only did okayish at best, I think- and that was a completely anti-Barney movie), I"ve never understood the hate it got. Granted, this is looking back through a very blurry memory from about 30 years ago, but I thought it was about having kids get along with each other and help each other out- something that a certain religion is supposed to also teach but its followers do the exact opposite, but I digress.
Anyways, when I looked up the criticisms of Barney, apparently it ends up teaching kids to be entitled and spoiled? I personally don't remember that at all... That sounds more like the other kid's show that is usually shat upon: Calliou.
From my incredibly cursory understanding, adults didn't like Barney because it never really espoused conflict or struggle in children, so it didn't give many opportunities for growth and...
From my incredibly cursory understanding, adults didn't like Barney because it never really espoused conflict or struggle in children, so it didn't give many opportunities for growth and maturation, just a more simplistic learning tool.
As a child, I remember loathing Barney because it felt very patronizing. It was the 90s and I had an older brother, so "being cool" was the seemingly most important thing in the world to me, and Barney was lame as hell.
You know, I think I agree with both your points. Adults would probably hate it because the children never struggled with anything, and if they were given everything they needed, I can see why I...
You know, I think I agree with both your points. Adults would probably hate it because the children never struggled with anything, and if they were given everything they needed, I can see why I might have the idea of "entitlement" being attached to this show.
And yes, I definitely remember that if you were a young child when Barney was on, Barney was seen as "being for babies", and THAT was a social no-go.
I don't doubt that many of these movies will be shitty. I think Barbie was a success because Mattel and Warner Bros let the artists make the movie they wanted. Some of these ideas seem good and it appears that there are real artists who have a vision for these IPs. Let's just hope that Mattel learned that hands off is the right approach and doesn't start to get any ideas that they know how to make a better movie than the experienced writers, directors, and producers.
Based on the trailers (haven't seen it yet), Barbie is also pretty meta compared to most toy-based movies. It's not set in the Barbie universe, it's about Barbie the doll in the real world. It's built off decades of pop culture surrounding Barbie, pop culture that appeals to all ages due to those decades of existence. If it was just some random doll made for the movie, I don't think it would be nearly as successful.
Barney and Polly Pocket just don't have that same draw and power. They're "niche" compared to Barbie, crazy as it is to call Barney that. They didn't have the consistent strong presence Barbie has to appeal to all age demographics.
...though if they do try the semi-meta approach with Barney, I hope they can somehow reference the fact the "I Love You" song has been used for torture.
You're not too far off. The movie is more about the concept of Barbie and how it has affected society moreso than the products themselves - though it certainly does have a reverence for those products.
Compare that to another somewhat recent movie about a series of dolls, Jem and the Holograms, where that relationship was basically ignored because Jem was a person in the movie's universe. Though to be fair, that movie had many other problems.
Polly Pocket does have a relatively decent Netflix show. It leans into the small toy aspect by giving the characters the ability to become tiny, but beyond that the toy influence is barely there. Granted, it's not a massive big budget show so I'm sure the writers were just told to make it Polly Pocket enough that they could use it for marketing toys. A hollywood movie is likely to have plenty of corporate meddling.
To be honest of all of them I feel like Polly Pocket would actually be good fodder for a show/movie that doesn't go all meta. Surprised to hear there's already a show.
And if they do Polly Pocket, they gotta do Mighty Max!
All aboard the hype train, let's run this motherfucker into the ground as hard as possible!
I'm in for a meta or dark Thomas the Engine movie
Thomas is pretty dark already if you pay close attention to and read the undertones of the plots. Was recently visiting in-laws and my nephew is a big Thomas fan and was watching "Day of the Diesels" which is a pretty thinly guised class/race war about the Diesels being dirty, devious, living in a neglected ghetto, and sparking a revolution to take over the clean/nice neighborhood after their multiple requests to be heard for equal treatment and attention are ignored.
They magically start being paid attention to and get what they need when the upper class Steam engines (that burn coal but are somehow "cleaner" than the Diesels) find those lower class trains in their neighborhood. It's like revolution works or something...
My nephew kept repeating the catchphrase of the episode "Diesels are devious" and, much to his father's horror and his mother's amusement, I kept piping in things like "I don't know, sure sounds like the needs of the workers aren't being addressed and they're just trying to better their position."
"Diesels are devious" met with "Are you sure about that buddy, they live in a bad area and just want to have their neighborhood to be bright and shiny like the Steamworks."
"Diesels are devious" met with "Sometimes you have to take things away from those that don't appreciate it to make them realize that not everyone is as privileged as they are."
So on and so forth. He doesn't understand because he's five, but it sure was entertaining for everyone else but the father in the room.
Honestly! That was exactly my thought. Those trains could be pretty brutal to each other and get in some sticky situations; the memes show the way forward.
I think it was We Hate Movies that predicted a Barney reboot recently, complete with a trailer that has a sad Victorian ghost cover of the I Love You, You Love Me song.
And Polly Pocket? There’s a thing I haven’t thought about for a long time. Do they still make those? Maybe this at least opens the door for a Mighty Max movie.
Still make Polly pockets, daughter has them. My son's play with my mighty max... Don't make them anymore.
Creator/director/producer/star of "Girls"on HBO is making it.
They have Vin diesel for rock em sock em robots, hot wheels with JJ Abrahams, even Tom Hanks is in one of them
They already made rock em sock em robots and it’s called Real Steel staring Hugh Jackman
At this point though no one really remembers that. That was 12 years ago.
Real Steel was one of the most popular movies on Netflix at the end of 2021, beginning of 2022 when it was added. There are/were talks of a direct sequel because of the resurgence of popularity, and at the end of last year it had transitioned to being in "very active and promising development" for a Disney+ series.
I recently rewatched it, holds up incredibly well!
I thought that Real Steel was just a remake of Sylvester Stallone's Over the Top with robots boxing instead of humans arm wrestling.
I'm going to write a script for a Jelly Shoes movie, any studios out there get in touch if you're interested. Open to expanding it into a Jellyverse.
The parallel Jellyverse extends into clear/translucent-shelled electronics from the 90s. Jelly Shoes have to team up with Jelly Bracelets to find the clear-shelled electronics universe and save it from Y2K.
Give me unlimited cross overs.
Barney riding a hot wheels monster truck into battle to fight Godzilla. King Kong with the steel chair out of nowhere. Pacific Rim Kaiju everywhere.
Ken and Barbie cooking show plays on a broken TV.
Buzz lightyear arrives with a tactical star command nuke to take them all out with woody in toe.
I think it'd be pretty funny if there's a Mattel executive who finally 'gets' it and lets the artists get all meta and edgy with their IP. We want to be advertised to without feeling like we're being advertised to.
Community (the TV show) had hilarious mocking product placements for Honda.
This one where they have a Corporate Human who's literally owned by Honda and has to be a walking infomercial.
"I can't shake this fear of losing even one small part of what Honda has to offer."
"My God... you're level 7 susceptible."
Or this one where Abed has a prerecorded driving monologue that sounds like a car commercial narration that he plays while the Dean is riding along, freaking him out.
Imagine a story about Barney... outside the suit. He has to be a beloved children's figure inside the suit. But outside of it, he's struggling with his personal demons and existence.
You should watch Shakes the Clown.
Or Death to Smoochy
Mad Max Fury Road, but Barney is Immortan Joe and he's got a whole bunch of precious kids instead of wives.
My opinion of the average movie goer finds new lows below the bedrock that was Pixels.
So... While I agree that it's a Horrible Idea to try and make any sort of Barney movie (Even Death to Smoochie only did okayish at best, I think- and that was a completely anti-Barney movie), I"ve never understood the hate it got. Granted, this is looking back through a very blurry memory from about 30 years ago, but I thought it was about having kids get along with each other and help each other out- something that a certain religion is supposed to also teach but its followers do the exact opposite, but I digress.
Anyways, when I looked up the criticisms of Barney, apparently it ends up teaching kids to be entitled and spoiled? I personally don't remember that at all... That sounds more like the other kid's show that is usually shat upon: Calliou.
I think it was the fucking song that was everywhere that drove people into a rage. It felt unavoidable for several years.
From my incredibly cursory understanding, adults didn't like Barney because it never really espoused conflict or struggle in children, so it didn't give many opportunities for growth and maturation, just a more simplistic learning tool.
As a child, I remember loathing Barney because it felt very patronizing. It was the 90s and I had an older brother, so "being cool" was the seemingly most important thing in the world to me, and Barney was lame as hell.
You know, I think I agree with both your points. Adults would probably hate it because the children never struggled with anything, and if they were given everything they needed, I can see why I might have the idea of "entitlement" being attached to this show.
And yes, I definitely remember that if you were a young child when Barney was on, Barney was seen as "being for babies", and THAT was a social no-go.