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Weekly US politics news and updates thread - week of March 2

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  1. [6]
    kfwyre
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    Father who gave gun to Georgia school shooting suspect for Christmas is guilty of 2nd-degree murder

    Father who gave gun to Georgia school shooting suspect for Christmas is guilty of 2nd-degree murder

    A Georgia man who gave his teenage son the gun he’s accused of using to kill two students and two teachers at a high school was convicted of second-degree murder and involuntary manslaughter on Tuesday.

    Jurors took less than two hours to find Colin Gray guilty of all charges in the September 2024 shooting at Apalachee High School in Winder, northeast of Atlanta. Gray now joins a growing number of parents being held responsible in court after children were accused in shootings across the country.

    Colin Gray was found guilty of second-degree murder in the deaths of two 14-year-old students, Mason Schermerhorn and Christian Angulo. Georgia law defines second-degree murder as causing the death of a child by committing the crime of cruelty to children. Gray was found guilty of involuntary manslaughter in the killings of teachers Richard Aspinwall, 39, and Cristina Irimie, 53.

    9 votes
    1. [5]
      DefinitelyNotAFae
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      I do assume, or at least hope, that his mom didn't only urge the father to lock the guns up because of the parents in MI being charged but due to not wanting people to be killed. I still have some...

      Colin Gray was the first such parent to be charged in Georgia. Smith said Marcee Gray had seen what happened in Michigan and asked her husband to remove the weapons as a result. “So Michigan was able to move the needle to the point that it almost stopped this tragedy,” he said. “We hope we’ve moved the needle a little further.”

      I do assume, or at least hope, that his mom didn't only urge the father to lock the guns up because of the parents in MI being charged but due to not wanting people to be killed.

      I still have some conflicting feelings about this type of use of the law but it seems very justified to me in this case. (I probably need to read more on it to be certain)

      4 votes
      1. [4]
        CannibalisticApple
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        I have similarly mixed feelings. The case in Michigan was, in my opinion, 100% justified because those parents just ignored every warning sign and showed little to no care, thinking of themselves...

        I have similarly mixed feelings. The case in Michigan was, in my opinion, 100% justified because those parents just ignored every warning sign and showed little to no care, thinking of themselves first and foremost. The kid in that case literally asked them for help and got dismissed. Previous discussion on Tildes here, with comments (top one's even mine) and quotes from various articles summing up just how little those parents (especially the mother) cared. I mean, I genuinely don't think that woman cared about her kid at all, her kid was just an accessory.

        With this case, from reading into the linked articles there were some big red flags going on too, as mentioned in this linked article about the shooter's mother. Kid had a shrine to the Parkland shooter and she somehow wrote off his obsession with school shooters as similar to her true crime interest, and "joked" about his dad buying him a tactical shooter vest to complete his "school shooter outfit". (Actually, I am curious why his mother wasn't charged since she was equally aware of red flags, though apparently estranged at the time.)

        But... It sounds like the parents also did acknowledge the kid had problems to some extent. I found this article going more into detail on the dad discussing his son's mental health issues. He absolutely should have taken the gun away and probably shouldn't have given him one in the first place, but this article honestly makes me a lot more sympathetic. The gun was a gift after they bonded while deer hunting. And he was exploring mental health care options in the weeks leading up to the shooting, and I don't think I need to reiterate how long and difficult it can be to access mental health services.

        Basically, he deserves some consequences for not at least securely storing the gun when he knew his son had issues, and then also trying to get his daughter to lie about his issues... but he doesn't come across nearly as awful and negligent as the Crumbleys. He feels a lot more like a dad who genuinely cared but didn't know what to do to help him, and also didn't expect his son to go this far. A lot of parents will genuinely not want to even consider the possibility that their child could commit such an act, leading to a lot of willful blindness.

        So, yeah, I'm conflicted. I don't want there to be a new standard for every parent of a school shooter to be tried on these charges because each case is so very, very different. At bare minimum, I want any such cases to be tried on an individual basis examining the facts as much as possible. Because sometimes, parents WILL try to do anything they can but it still won't be enough. And many of these parents will live with unimaginable guilt for the rest of their lives even without being tried. Mass shootings are tragic enough, and I don't want to increase the number of victims more than necessary.

        6 votes
        1. [3]
          DefinitelyNotAFae
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          Oddly I found him to be more negligent and awful for his son having a literal shrine and he still doesn't act. Plus I don't think 14 year olds I think the mom did what she could eventually - maybe...

          Oddly I found him to be more negligent and awful for his son having a literal shrine and he still doesn't act. Plus I don't think 14 year olds

          I think the mom did what she could eventually - maybe it was just the threat of her own prosecution that hit her after all - and I suspect the prosecutors were less willing to risk losing a test case on a much more sympathetic accused. But I need to finish reading more.

          It wasn't that thread but I know I have talked about the concerns this would be used against, say, minority single parents of teens that end up in a gang and kill someone. If it sticks with situations where parents provide access to the guns that may be somewhat of a way to avoid this just being another systemic racism issue.

          They're very different the individual circumstances of it is how I feel about prosecuting parents for those accidental infant deaths where the sleep deprived parent forgets their baby is in the car in unsafe weather. Or a toddler escapes the house and is killed. They all feel like situations where many people are doing the best they can and sometimes tragedy will still happen. And others are callous assholes who don't care about the outcome at all.

          I'm not generally a fan of prison so yeah, conflicted.

          3 votes
          1. [2]
            kfwyre
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            Conflicted here too. I think what we're seeing is a result of the fact there's been abstention/negligence at all the other levels that we could be addressing the issue of school shootings, which...

            Conflicted here too.

            I think what we're seeing is a result of the fact there's been abstention/negligence at all the other levels that we could be addressing the issue of school shootings, which has thus forced its "solution" down to the level of individual parent responsibility.

            That isn't a solution, and the broader systemic factors causing the shootings will continue unchecked as they have for decades now.

            5 votes
            1. DefinitelyNotAFae
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              Right. I think there's a sense that well... At least we're trying something. That feeling is coming from decades of zero expectations of any action being taken. When the bar is so low that it is a...

              Right. I think there's a sense that well... At least we're trying something. That feeling is coming from decades of zero expectations of any action being taken. When the bar is so low that it is a pub in hell then even stumbling over it feels like some sort of twisted victory.

              To get to this point the system has failed so many people that just don't expect it to actually succeed in doing anything. So you take anything as a sign of progress or something even when it isn't.

              And at the same time, if no one else will keep guns out of the hands of kids who want to kill other kids, maybe the parents will do it... Probably not but maybe.

              2 votes
  2. [4]
    unkz
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    https://www.npr.org/2026/02/28/nx-s1-5728969/kansas-revokes-drivers-licenses-of-hundreds-of-trans-people-prompted-by-new-law Apparently they are invalidating drivers licenses for trans people in...
    6 votes
    1. [3]
      DefinitelyNotAFae
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      Yeah, invalidated past tense. There was no grace period, it was instant. It was discussed in ~lgbt but got deleted, idk why.

      Yeah, invalidated past tense. There was no grace period, it was instant. It was discussed in ~lgbt but got deleted, idk why.

      7 votes
      1. [2]
        nukeman
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        Do you have a link to that post?

        Do you have a link to that post?

        1. DefinitelyNotAFae
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          Nope, I'm wondering if I'm mixing up which conversations I had where as I don't have any comments showing in a deleted post. So I suspect I may have been a shitshow. But if not I really hate...

          Nope, I'm wondering if I'm mixing up which conversations I had where as I don't have any comments showing in a deleted post. So I suspect I may have been a shitshow.

          But if not I really hate losing good discussions to deleted posts. (I hate losing bad ones too frankly.)

          It does come up if you Google for it on Tildes though

  3. nukeman
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    Texas Republicans head to runoff in Senate race as James Talarico wins Democratic nomination

    Texas Republicans head to runoff in Senate race as James Talarico wins Democratic nomination

    Among the highest-profile races in Tuesday’s primaries were the two competitive Senate primaries in Texas. Republican Sen. John Cornyn and state Attorney General Ken Paxton will advance to a runoff after neither reached the threshold for the GOP nomination in a race where President Donald Trump has not made an endorsement. On the Democratic side, state Rep. James Talarico has locked down the nomination by defeating Rep. Jasmine Crockett, NBC News projects.

    5 votes
  4. [5]
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    1. [2]
      DefinitelyNotAFae
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      Probably for the best.

      Probably for the best.

      6 votes
      1. MimicSquid
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        Yeah, If he'd just pout and hold his breath and sit in the corner until an adult can start to fix the results of his tantrums I wouldn't be sad.

        Yeah, If he'd just pout and hold his breath and sit in the corner until an adult can start to fix the results of his tantrums I wouldn't be sad.

        2 votes
    2. [2]
      Omnicrola
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      On the one hand, he can only stall 10 days before bills automatically become law if he does not either veto or sign it. On the other hand, if his Republican allies in Congress play timing...

      On the one hand, he can only stall 10 days before bills automatically become law if he does not either veto or sign it.

      On the other hand, if his Republican allies in Congress play timing shenannigans they can help him pocket veto things.

      On the gripping hand, he has the attention span of an adderall-fueled goldfish, so he'll likely move onto something else tomorrow.

      3 votes
      1. stu2b50
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        If his republican allies in congress are playing ball they can just not pass the bill to begin with.

        If his republican allies in congress are playing ball they can just not pass the bill to begin with.

        2 votes
  5. DefinitelyNotAFae
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    This was just an odd one: I'm done': MAGA actor James Woods says he's no longer a Republican This "theory" btw is that her husband is actually her brother and the marriage was citizenship fraud....

    This was just an odd one:

    I'm done': MAGA actor James Woods says he's no longer a Republican

    The catalyst for Woods' anger appears to be a far-right account that posted a video from Lindell TV of Rep. Nancy Mace (R-SC) complaining that the House GOP refused to sign on to her subpoena to pursue racist conspiracy theories against Rep. Ilhan Omar (D-MN).

    This "theory" btw is that her husband is actually her brother and the marriage was citizenship fraud. (Weird they don't seem to care about the incest...)

    Also calling him an actor, as in current, suggests he's done more than voice Hades in the past decade or so. They had to downplay that he was an executive producer of Oppenheimer and tell him not to do promos because no one likes him but he owned the rights so they couldn't yeet him completely.

    But ah, well, celebrity news inspires the pettiness.

    4 votes
  6. skybrian
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    What to know about the deadly shooting at a Texas bar and the gunman ... ...

    What to know about the deadly shooting at a Texas bar and the gunman

    AUSTIN, Texas (AP) — A gunman in Texas opened fire on a crowded bar in Austin’s busy nightlife district over the weekend before being fatally shot by police in an attack that authorities are investigating as a possible act of terrorism.

    The shooting early Sunday killed three people and wounded more than a dozen others. The suspect was wearing clothes with an Iranian flag design and the words “Property of Allah,” a law enforcement official told The Associated Press.

    The mass shooting happened after the U.S. and Israel launched an attack on Iran. The FBI and Austin police said they are still looking for a motive behind the shooting, which sent people in the bar and surrounding streets scrambling for cover.

    ...

    Police said the gunman was 53-year-old Ndiaga Diagne. He legally bought the pistol and rifle he used in the attack several years ago in San Antonio, Davis said.

    Diagne was originally from Senegal, according to multiple people briefed on the investigation who spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to publicly discuss the investigation.

    ...

    The entertainment district has a heavy police presence on weekends, and officers were able to confront the gunman within a minute of the first call for help, the police chief said.

    3 votes
  7. hobbes64
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    From The Atlantic (mild paywall1) I find this article interesting, or maybe encouraging, because like many people I have been concerned that Vance would be even worse than Trump and there is a...

    From The Atlantic (mild paywall1)

    I find this article interesting, or maybe encouraging, because like many people I have been concerned that Vance would be even worse than Trump and there is a high chance that Trump won't finish his term. But this shows that at least on the topic of war, Vance is more reasonable than Trump, but also very weakened by his association with Trump.

    The Humiliation of J. D. Vance

    If J. D. Vance promised one thing during the 2024 presidential campaign, it was that America would not enter into a war with Iran of the kind that is currently raging. “America doesn’t have to constantly police every region of the world,” Vance told the comedian Tim Dillon on his podcast. He continued: “Our interest, I think very much, is in not going to war with Iran. It would be a huge distraction of resources. It would be massively expensive to our country.” In another podcast interview, with Shawn Ryan, in September 2024, Vance even said that a war between Israel and Iran was in fact “the most likely and most dangerous scenario” for provoking World War III.

    These arguments look farcical now that President Trump has chosen—months after bombing Iran’s nuclear facilities and pronouncing its enrichment efforts “completely and totally obliterated”—to join Israel in launching a war on the Islamic Republic. The ensuing conflagration now involves a dozen countries in the Middle East. Trump says that he will do “whatever it takes” militarily and that “wars can be fought ‘forever.’” Vance’s X account, normally hyperactive, went silent in the days after bombs began falling on Saturday morning. The vice president was not at Mar-a-Lago with Trump as he oversaw the attack. The administration instead released a photo of him running a secondary meeting at the White House, flanked by a can of Diet Mountain Dew and a sullen-looking Tulsi Gabbard, the director of national intelligence.

    ...

    Vance came to public attention as a resounding critic of Trump who could nonetheless explain his appeal among heartland Americans to coastal elites. Before his Senate campaign in Ohio in 2022, he emerged as the personification of national conservatism—the new populism-inflected strain of thought that was becoming dominant in America and Europe. He angrily rejected the so-called forever wars of the George W. Bush administration—disillusioned from his experience as a young marine deployed to fight them. Reinvention is obviously possible for a man who has reinvented himself before. But if he seeks the Republican nomination for president in 2028, he may find himself bound to an unpopular series of policies that the 2024 version of Vance would oppose.

    1by mild paywall, I mean it can be defeated by using noscript or similar javascript blocker

    2 votes
  8. moocow1452
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    May or may not be worthy of its own topic, but Nintendo of America is suing the US Government over tariffs, as reported by Aftermath. https://aftermath.site/nintendo-tariffs-sue/

    May or may not be worthy of its own topic, but Nintendo of America is suing the US Government over tariffs, as reported by Aftermath.

    https://aftermath.site/nintendo-tariffs-sue/

    1 vote
  9. Fal
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    @Deimos by the way, this weekly thread is linked in the ~news sidebar, but not the ~society sidebar where the thread currently lives. Maybe it could be linked in both?

    @Deimos by the way, this weekly thread is linked in the ~news sidebar, but not the ~society sidebar where the thread currently lives. Maybe it could be linked in both?