29 votes

Let's Talk: What browser are you using?

Most of my internet browsing is done on mobile and I've used predominantly Firefox and Firefox Focus in the past. I just switched over to Brave now that they've finally implemented their own crypto currency.
What browser are you using?
Is there a reason for this browser specifically? If so why?
What do you use your browser for?

46 comments

  1. [8]
    tildez
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    Firefox. Not only because it's wonderful and Mozilla is a force for good on the internet, but also because after living through the IE6 era, I don't want to see a single entity strong arming their...

    Firefox. Not only because it's wonderful and Mozilla is a force for good on the internet, but also because after living through the IE6 era, I don't want to see a single entity strong arming their way through all technology decisions. Especially not an advertising company hellbent on siphoning every ounce of personal info from its users.

    Chrome, Brave, The new Edge are all gigantic NOPEs for me.

    46 votes
    1. Akir
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      That's basically exactly why I use Firefox as well. In addition, I appreciate how they have continued to stand up for open standards for such a long time. I feel Google tends to strongarm web...

      That's basically exactly why I use Firefox as well. In addition, I appreciate how they have continued to stand up for open standards for such a long time. I feel Google tends to strongarm web standards to go their way, and though they have also largely used their weight to help everyone (Just look how they made web video possible without dealing with patents by purchasing On2), they quite simply have too much power over standards generally.

      16 votes
    2. [6]
      retiredrugger
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      Why is Brave a nope for you?

      Why is Brave a nope for you?

      3 votes
      1. [5]
        nothis
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        Can't speak for them but what bothers me is that browsers like Edge or Brave (Opera, too, I think?) are basically Chrome with a different coat of paint. It seems like it shouldn't be a problem but...

        Can't speak for them but what bothers me is that browsers like Edge or Brave (Opera, too, I think?) are basically Chrome with a different coat of paint. It seems like it shouldn't be a problem but there was some news, recently (I don't know if it's implemented yet or just rumors) that Chrome might drop support for a lot of functionality necessary to run a proper adblocker addon.

        15 votes
        1. [4]
          retiredrugger
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          So is it more of a functionality issue than an aesthetic one?

          So is it more of a functionality issue than an aesthetic one?

          2 votes
          1. sandaltree
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            For me the ad network and cryptocoin just sounds shady as hell. There was also some things they did with the BAT without users consent. I did try the Brave browser and the vibes I got from it was...

            For me the ad network and cryptocoin just sounds shady as hell. There was also some things they did with the BAT without users consent. I did try the Brave browser and the vibes I got from it was that it just felt somehow "off". Like it was so hard shoving at my face that "Look how many bad things we blocked in the last minute!" That just makes it less trustworthy in my eyes. I also inherently trust anything that comes from chrome-based less.

            15 votes
          2. [2]
            tildez
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            Kind of. The way new internet technologies are born is from various committees which are generally comprised of the people who make web browsers. Ideally it's a democratic process with good...

            Kind of. The way new internet technologies are born is from various committees which are generally comprised of the people who make web browsers.

            Ideally it's a democratic process with good intentions. But sometimes, when one browser has too much power, they just start implanting features into their browser and the other browsers either have to follow along, or be seen as "broken" to users when things don't work.

            So google makes Chromium, and those browsers are just chromium with some paint slapped on top which gives google even more market share and more power to do whatever they want with the internet.

            Imagine a standard technology shared across all browsers that prevents advertising fingerprinting and tracking. Not gonna happen with google at the helm.

            10 votes
            1. nothis
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              Right, there were also a couple of concrete examples of this popping up in recent months. There was a "bug" in youtube's rendering that basically caused it to be much slower on Firefox than on...

              Right, there were also a couple of concrete examples of this popping up in recent months. There was a "bug" in youtube's rendering that basically caused it to be much slower on Firefox than on Chrome because it was optimized for Chrome-specific quirks. Google, of course, says this is unintentional but it doesn't even require an evil plan or anything. Just the existence (and market share) of Chrome makes it the most "obvious" thing to optimize towards for a front end engineer. It's a cycle that ends with Chrome becoming the "standard" for web rendering and they're already showing signs of abusing that position for their own profit.

              3 votes
  2. [2]
    Keegan
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    Mobile: Firefox beta. I get to use ublock origin, like the frequency of updates (nightly is too often for me but I like getting more updates than stable), and like the feel of it. I'm used to it...

    Mobile: Firefox beta. I get to use ublock origin, like the frequency of updates (nightly is too often for me but I like getting more updates than stable), and like the feel of it. I'm used to it ig. Most other browsers seem shady, especially on Android (the spyware ones). I've tried Firefox Preview, but I don't like bottom navigation. I accidentally tap it too much.

    Desktop: Firefox beta as well for the same reasons. I also use umatrix and https everywhere, and those are my only extensions I use because I like keeping it clean.

    I trust Mozilla much more than other companies. I really wish they had a public email system. I would switch to that in an instant.

    Usage: I mostly use my desktop browser for reading articles and searching stupid things. On mobile it is exclusively searching stupid things because I read my articles in my RSS app.

    22 votes
    1. retiredrugger
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      Firefox's ethos is exactly why I've used them for so long. Definitely a company I trust my data with

      Firefox's ethos is exactly why I've used them for so long. Definitely a company I trust my data with

      6 votes
  3. [4]
    Silbern
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    Firefox. I used Chrome for a while from ~2011 to 2015, but I've since switched to Firefox because I appreciate having an open source browser I can use everywhere, and I don't want to see return to...

    Firefox. I used Chrome for a while from ~2011 to 2015, but I've since switched to Firefox because I appreciate having an open source browser I can use everywhere, and I don't want to see return to a browser monopoly like we had in the 2000's.

    On mobile I switch between an old version of the Android stock browser and Opera, the former for performance and the latter for modern compatibility. I would use Firefox too if it weren't such a massive resource hog...

    14 votes
    1. [2]
      KapteinB
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      Interesting. I'd assume newer browsers would have higher performance, and that Firefox would use less resources than a Chromium browser.

      On mobile I switch between an old version of the Android stock browser and Opera, the former for performance and the latter for modern compatibility. I would use Firefox too if it weren't such a massive resource hog...

      Interesting. I'd assume newer browsers would have higher performance, and that Firefox would use less resources than a Chromium browser.

      4 votes
      1. Silbern
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        I admittedly use a very old smartphone, and most modern browsers really don't take well to the limited about of RAM available. I personally haven't felt like browsers have gotten faster, I think...

        I admittedly use a very old smartphone, and most modern browsers really don't take well to the limited about of RAM available. I personally haven't felt like browsers have gotten faster, I think they've actually been getting slower as they include support for more standards and technologies, but the hardware (especially in the smartphone segment) has been getting more powerful at a ridiculously fast rate. Just as a very simple example, using the Antutu benchmark, the Galaxy S10 scores about ~415,000 apparently (from a random quick google search), while my Epic 4G scores about 5500. That's about a 75x increase in processing power, which is really quite phenomenal. I also have a Galaxy Tab S2 that I use Samsung Internet on, and while the tablet is way more powerful than my phone, it sometimes chokes on webpages (especially those with a lot of content, like Wikipedia articles) that even my Epic has no problems with.

        And as for Opera being faster, I chalk it up to hyper optimization on their part. They've traditionally done a really good job getting their browser working on low end hardware, and it's really pretty good once it gets going. The long initial load time is why I sometimes use the stock browser, for quick google searches. That, and it has the all-important dark mode!

        6 votes
    2. dblohm7
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      You might be interested in trying Firefox Preview (Disclaimer: I work on GeckoView, Mozilla's new Android tech for embedding Gecko into browsers and apps)

      I would use Firefox too if it weren't such a massive resource hog...

      You might be interested in trying Firefox Preview

      (Disclaimer: I work on GeckoView, Mozilla's new Android tech for embedding Gecko into browsers and apps)

      1 vote
  4. Seven
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    I use Chrome simply because all of my workflow is centered around Google and its products. Being able to switch accounts so effortlessly and being automatically logged in to so many services is...

    I use Chrome simply because all of my workflow is centered around Google and its products. Being able to switch accounts so effortlessly and being automatically logged in to so many services is just too convenient for me to switch. I tried switching to Firefox briefly, but it just didn't suit my needs as well as I wished it did. If I ever switch to Linux for anything, I will probably switch to Firefox everywhere just to have the ease of synced bookmarks and extensions and all that. I love that Firefox is open-source, and I hate being dependant on Google, but Chrome simply works the best for me right now.

    13 votes
  5. [2]
    Tygrak
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    Firefox my whole life and I refuse to ever change to Chrome, because Google has too much power already. Also there's no reason to. I am still surprised that everyone switched to Chrome when Google...

    Firefox my whole life and I refuse to ever change to Chrome, because Google has too much power already. Also there's no reason to. I am still surprised that everyone switched to Chrome when Google first came out with it, just because they put ads for it everywhere.

    11 votes
    1. mosburger
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      When Chrome first came out, it was 1) light and fast as hell, 2) ran tabs in separate processes, and 3) had developer tools that were a lot better than Firebug <the state of the art at the time>....

      When Chrome first came out, it was 1) light and fast as hell, 2) ran tabs in separate processes, and 3) had developer tools that were a lot better than Firebug <the state of the art at the time>. Since then, Firefox has slimmed down a lot and implemented tabs-in-their-own-process, and Chrome isn't the lightweight little speedster it once was. Google has also gone from "Don't be Evil" to whatever it is these days, making me more leery of Chrome.

      All of this is to say that - yeah, we all collectively should've known better and stayed faithful to Mozilla, but I can totally see why people thought it was worth making the leap at the time.

      4 votes
  6. cutchyacokov
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    Firefox under Linux on desktop only. With uBlock Origin, aggressively configured uMatrix and HTTPS:// Everywhere. Also with a Pi-Hole for DNS with all of the checked block lists from...

    Firefox under Linux on desktop only. With uBlock Origin, aggressively configured uMatrix and HTTPS:// Everywhere. Also with a Pi-Hole for DNS with all of the checked block lists from https://firebog.net/. Anything less is uncivilized.

    10 votes
  7. [6]
    aymm
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    Firefox on Windows for its multi account contains and the reasons @tildez stated. Safari on macOS, because I don't like Firefox on macOS

    Firefox on Windows for its multi account contains and the reasons @tildez stated. Safari on macOS, because I don't like Firefox on macOS

    9 votes
    1. [3]
      Odysseus
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      What's wrong with Firefox on macOS? I'm currently using firefox on a mac and I'm not really noticing any difference compared to Firefox on windows.

      What's wrong with Firefox on macOS? I'm currently using firefox on a mac and I'm not really noticing any difference compared to Firefox on windows.

      5 votes
      1. tildez
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        They recently offloaded a lot of rendering to CoreAnimation or Metal or whatever and saw something like a 20+% increase in efficiency and power savings. It gets better every release, but even me...

        They recently offloaded a lot of rendering to CoreAnimation or Metal or whatever and saw something like a 20+% increase in efficiency and power savings.

        It gets better every release, but even me as a FF fanperson, gets annoyed that they haven't figured out proper gesture animations or elastic scrolling that makes it feel like a native mac app. So I can understand.

        10 votes
      2. aymm
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        Scrolling with a trackpad feels completely wrong Using it in fullscreen and moving the mouse to the top of the screen only moves the completely unstyled gray top bar down instead of the complete...
        • Scrolling with a trackpad feels completely wrong
        • Using it in fullscreen and moving the mouse to the top of the screen only moves the completely unstyled gray top bar down instead of the complete tab bar like it should (open both FF and safari in fullscreen and move the move to the top. Look at the difference. What FF does is just plain ugly)
        • Context menu is their own implementation instead of using the system provided one. This is annoying, because I have some usefull stuff in the system context menu, which is missing when using FF
        • Quitting when in fullscreen and then re-opening it reopns FF with the window maximized instead of either fullscreen, or the regular, non-fullscreen dimensions
        • Forward/backwards navigation in the history using gestures isn't nearly as good looking as it is in Safari

        A couple weeks ago it was also both slow, drained my battery like crazy, and kept my fans spinning while idling. They fixed that though.
        All in all, it just doesn't feel like a good native mac app, it feels like a cross platform one

        3 votes
    2. [2]
      space_cowboy
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      Have you tried the temporary container add-on? It's exactly what I hoped for with containers. If you enable automatic mode, it will create a new temporary container for every tab.

      Have you tried the temporary container add-on? It's exactly what I hoped for with containers. If you enable automatic mode, it will create a new temporary container for every tab.

      1 vote
      1. aymm
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        Nope, but that's a bit much for me. I usually keep the big ones in their own containers (Facebook, Google, Amazon, etc), but everything else can stay in the main one

        Nope, but that's a bit much for me. I usually keep the big ones in their own containers (Facebook, Google, Amazon, etc), but everything else can stay in the main one

        1 vote
  8. whbboyd
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    Firefox exclusively. Extensions: uBlock Origin, Privacy Badger, Tree Style Tab, PassFF. I used Opera for many years, until they decided to drop Presto and become just another Chrome reskin. I've...

    Firefox exclusively.

    Extensions: uBlock Origin, Privacy Badger, Tree Style Tab, PassFF.

    I used Opera for many years, until they decided to drop Presto and become just another Chrome reskin. I've despised Chrome forever—first because the UI was heavily nonstandard and full of antipatterns, and eventually because Google keeps leveraging it to make the web worse.

    8 votes
  9. Odysseus
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    I currently use Firefox for mobile, because it supports all the same extensions as the full desktop version and because I use Firefox as my primary browser on my computer. On my computer, beyond...

    I currently use Firefox for mobile, because it supports all the same extensions as the full desktop version and because I use Firefox as my primary browser on my computer. On my computer, beyond firefox, I use Safari Developer Preview for work, regular Safari for testing webpages (the adblock on my Safari Dev Preview breaks some pages), and Chrome to watch Hulu and foreign language sites (hulu ad-skipping is only possible via Chrome extension as far as I know, and the built-in webpage translation on chrome is just a lot more convenient).

    5 votes
  10. DanBC
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    Firefox on Windows 10, and Android Firefox on mobile. I also use edge on Windows 10. I use the mobile Twitter app which is chrome. I use Firefox because I want an alternative to chrome. I use edge...

    Firefox on Windows 10, and Android Firefox on mobile. I also use edge on Windows 10. I use the mobile Twitter app which is chrome.

    I use Firefox because I want an alternative to chrome.

    I use edge because I take part in Microsoft rewards and there's a small bonus for searching Bing using Edge, and I like using alternatives to Google when searching. (Although I prefer DDG to Bing).

    4 votes
  11. rmgr
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    I'm using Firefox on PC and Firefox Preview on Android. Firefox Preview has some annoying issues but the interface has really grown on me to the point where I reinstalled Brave and then...

    I'm using Firefox on PC and Firefox Preview on Android. Firefox Preview has some annoying issues but the interface has really grown on me to the point where I reinstalled Brave and then uninstalled it again.

    4 votes
  12. ThatFanficGuy
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    Cent Browser, which is a fork of Chromium with features.

    Cent Browser, which is a fork of Chromium with features.

    3 votes
  13. cancycou
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    Firefox. On desktop, the tree style tab extension is just too good. On mobile, I use the new Firefox preview and liking it a lot.

    Firefox. On desktop, the tree style tab extension is just too good.

    On mobile, I use the new Firefox preview and liking it a lot.

    3 votes
  14. intuxikated
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    I use firefox on PC mostly to support the company and what they stand for. I never had any problem with browser, but the Google's assholish CAPTCHA design is testing my patience :( I use bromite...

    I use firefox on PC mostly to support the company and what they stand for. I never had any problem with browser, but the Google's assholish CAPTCHA design is testing my patience :(

    I use bromite browser on my phone(Android). Just because both firefox mobile and firefox preview are still very buggy. Chromium browsers are way ahead when it comes to android

    3 votes
  15. JXM
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    I used Firefox from the time when it was known as Phoenix until about 2010, when I switched to Safari on the Mac, Windows and iPhone so that I could keep my history and bookmarks in sync. About a...

    I used Firefox from the time when it was known as Phoenix until about 2010, when I switched to Safari on the Mac, Windows and iPhone so that I could keep my history and bookmarks in sync.

    About a month ago, when Catalina came out, a whole bunch of extensions just stopped working. So I started using Firefox again and it's fantastic.

    There are many more extensions for Firefox than there are for Safari and they've gotten syncing working extremely well. Everything is synced between my phone, laptop and desktop seamlessly (Firefox didn't sync at all last time I used it).

    It's been extremely helpful in decoupling myself from Apple's ecosystem.

    3 votes
  16. LukasDrsman
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    Mobile: Ecosia - plant 'em trees || Safari - it comes preinstalled Laptop: Firefox - it works well with linux and is less power-hungry than chrome or chromium || qutebrowser - keyboard focused,...

    Mobile: Ecosia - plant 'em trees || Safari - it comes preinstalled
    Laptop: Firefox - it works well with linux and is less power-hungry than chrome or chromium || qutebrowser - keyboard focused, minimal, one downside is that it's based on python and PyQt5, making it really slow when it comes to startup times

    3 votes
  17. vegai
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    Firefox (primarily for private things), Chrome and Safari on MacOS. Safari on iOS.

    Firefox (primarily for private things), Chrome and Safari on MacOS. Safari on iOS.

    2 votes
  18. escher
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    Firefox Quantum on Linux w/ uBlock Origin, Privacy Badger, and Https Everywhere.

    Firefox Quantum on Linux w/ uBlock Origin, Privacy Badger, and Https Everywhere.

    2 votes
  19. eliza
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    I use Firefox on mobile and Vivaldi on my raspi

    I use Firefox on mobile and Vivaldi on my raspi

    2 votes
  20. drannex
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    Firefox Developer Edition on desktop, and Firefox Nightly on mobile.

    Firefox Developer Edition on desktop, and Firefox Nightly on mobile.

    2 votes
  21. NaraVara
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    For personal stuff I use Safari because it's very handy to have everything synced between laptop, desktop, iPhone, and iPad (one of the benefits of being deep in the Apple ecosystem). If not for...

    For personal stuff I use Safari because it's very handy to have everything synced between laptop, desktop, iPhone, and iPad (one of the benefits of being deep in the Apple ecosystem). If not for the continuity features I'd probably use Opera or Firefox on my computers.

    For work I use Chrome because my company uses GSuite and I get the sync benefits through that. (Deep in the Google ecosystem). It is a total battery hog though, which I find annoying. It also breaks a lot of Mac OS HIG and interface norms, which really peeves me. But a separation between work and personal browsing is really nice and helps me click into "work mode" when it's time to get stuff done. It also keeps my personal browsing sites from popping up in the auto-complete when people are shoulder surfing.

    2 votes
  22. Weldawadyathink
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    I currently use Chrome on desktop. I used to use Firefox. I usually flip between them every so often. On mobile I use kiwi browser. I definitely recommend checking it out. I also have used Samsung...

    I currently use Chrome on desktop. I used to use Firefox. I usually flip between them every so often.

    On mobile I use kiwi browser. I definitely recommend checking it out. I also have used Samsung browser in the past and it is also really good. You can use it on non Samsung phones too.

    1 vote
  23. cwagner
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    Switched from FF (who knows what I used before it? I remember IE, Netscape and Phoenix :D) to Chrome when Chrome was released. Happy Chrome user for years. With Google becoming more and more "Do...

    Switched from FF (who knows what I used before it? I remember IE, Netscape and Phoenix :D) to Chrome when Chrome was released. Happy Chrome user for years. With Google becoming more and more "Do Evil" over time, I tried switching to FF again and again (usually I gave it a few days once a year).

    I kept up with all the FF news because I wanted to switch, but whenever I tried, it was too damn slow. Finally, they got multi process tabs and it was getting close. Still too slow for me, but I could see the light.

    A few versions after Quantum (maybe a bit over a year ago?) I tried it again and while it was still slower, it was extremely close. Been using FF ever since. I’m surfing with Nightly. Why? Dunno, maybe because I use Arch on my VPS? I even helped fix a bug by spending two hours with Moz Regression :D

    Now if only they’d get around to fixing the slow select bug, I mean it has only been around 15 years…

    On Android I randomly choose between FF and FF preview as well as FF Klar (telemetry-disabled version of FF Focus here in Germany), but I try to avoid browsing on mobile because phones suck at almost everything compared to desktop computers.

    And as a fun fact: The German photography website I work for has (on Desktop) a majority of FF users according to google analytics. Though a comment regarding that on Reddit confused me: Doesn’t FF block Analytics by default? Would that mean that the (I assume) minority of users disabling it are still enough to make FF the most used browser? Seems strange as the German average is only around 25% Firefox.

    1 vote
  24. krg
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    I pretty much have only used Firefox ever since it was available. Feels like the only major browser I can really trust.

    I pretty much have only used Firefox ever since it was available. Feels like the only major browser I can really trust.

    1 vote
  25. Kuromantis
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    Standard Chrome mobile for Samsung phones. Oh well.

    Standard Chrome mobile for Samsung phones. Oh well.

    1 vote
  26. ras
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    Firefox for pretty much everything. Pretty much the only time I open Chrome is when I'm working on an Angular project.

    Firefox for pretty much everything. Pretty much the only time I open Chrome is when I'm working on an Angular project.

    1 vote
  27. mrbig
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    I always feel ashamed to answer that question because I use Google Chrome. I just have a near perfect setup that is hard to reproduce, and Firefocs (they keyboard I'm writing right now doesn't...

    I always feel ashamed to answer that question because I use Google Chrome. I just have a near perfect setup that is hard to reproduce, and Firefocs (they keyboard I'm writing right now doesn't have the "ecs" keys, but you know what I mean!) doesn't work right with my "ecs"modmap and "ecs"cape customizations on i3wm.

    1 vote
  28. macadoum
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    Vivaldi and Vivaldi mobile. Works great.

    Vivaldi and Vivaldi mobile. Works great.

  29. minimaltyp0s
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    Pretty much exclusively Safari because I'm quite embedded in the Apple ecosystem and the cross-device sync, and password management just makes things easy. I have Chrome available because a few...

    Pretty much exclusively Safari because I'm quite embedded in the Apple ecosystem and the cross-device sync, and password management just makes things easy.

    I have Chrome available because a few things seem to demand it (and I basically don't trust google), and I have FF available because sometimes I like to play around with different plugins.