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The Stephen Colbert exit interview: “I did not expect it to end this way”

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    JXM
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    Wow, reading this made me really, really dislike Colbert. He comes across so awful and milquetoast. He literally calls himself a company man and is staying loyal to a company that threw him under...

    Wow, reading this made me really, really dislike Colbert. He comes across so awful and milquetoast. He literally calls himself a company man and is staying loyal to a company that threw him under the bus. He calls David Ellison a nice guy.

    This is what really got me though:

    I was at a recent taping of your show, and, before you came out, your stage manager instructs your audience not to boo Trump. What’s that about?

    We don’t always remember to do that, but I always want them to because we’re here to harvest laughter. It’s like Obama used to say, “Don’t boo, vote.” I’m like, “Don’t boo, laugh.” That’s what I’m here for. Booing sounds like we’re cheering for sides; I’m pointing and laughing. It’s a different beast. But you don’t always have to [tell them not to boo]. Not that my audience is a perfect cross section, but they’re somewhat reflective of what the national mood is, and the more outrageous or unsettling the president’s behavior is, the more likely you are to get boos. It also just bothers me because it steps on setups and punchlines.

    People presume that you’re this lefty figure, but you’re actually more conservative than people think. Do you agree?

    I do not perceive myself as some sort of bomb-throwing, left-wing radical. I wear khaki pants and button-down shirts, and I go to church on Sunday and I taught [Sunday school], and I live in a suburban Center Hall colonial and I believe in institutions and in the essential greatness of America. If I ever had a chance, I’d ask the president, “What do you mean by great?” Because there was so much greatness that was awaiting him if he had actually just acknowledged it. Instead, he decided to rewrite things in his own image.

    But yeah, I’m a moderate, suburban Catholic, but people perceive me as this liberal thing when in fact what presents itself as modern conservatism [today] is actually radical behavior. I believe that what purports to be the present conservative movement is actually engaged in constant heresy against reality. Just wish-casting a world to exist that doesn’t, which is very destructive. That’s like alcoholism. That’s reaching for a drug that’s really a poison all the time in order to give you the worldview that you hope. And then worse than that, imposing that on other people and denying their reality.

    Way to use your position of privilege to help make the world a better place.

    11 votes
    1. Wafik
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      People definitely confuse Colbert as some hardcore liberal just because he has been making fun of the hardcore elements of the conservative movement for decades. But the reason he is so good at...

      People definitely confuse Colbert as some hardcore liberal just because he has been making fun of the hardcore elements of the conservative movement for decades. But the reason he is so good at that is his own knowledge from the inside. He is a Christian and as far as I can tell, a good man. He reminds me of other Christians I grew up with who I see none of in MAGA, maple MAGA or any of the people who claim to be Christian but seem to just use religion as an excuse to hate.

      Regardless, he makes fun of the extreme night after night and it is easy to assume that he is "on the other side" when in reality he is calling out his own side he no longer recognizes.

      Expecting comedians to save us is delusional. They don't believe it's their job and their perceived morals fall apart fast, like all the comedians who played that middle Eastern show.

      53 votes
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      carsonc
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      Unless I'm misreading the article, Ellison is basically his new boss who just got him fired. Also, Ellison seems to control a huge swath of the entertainment industry, so it might be best to avoid...

      Unless I'm misreading the article, Ellison is basically his new boss who just got him fired. Also, Ellison seems to control a huge swath of the entertainment industry, so it might be best to avoid making an enemy out of him.

      For Colbert to offer mild praise to the boss who just fired him and who may be able to quash his future ventures just seems like prudence. He probably wants to continue to work in the industry, after all.

      34 votes
      1. WrathOfTheHydra
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        Capitulating to the Republicans with money is exactly how we got in this mess. Trying to keep a relationship with the devil just means that wherever he goes next he'll be a mouth piece to the...

        Capitulating to the Republicans with money is exactly how we got in this mess. Trying to keep a relationship with the devil just means that wherever he goes next he'll be a mouth piece to the administration. Which I guess if he really is 'actually a moderate', then he'll fit the lapdog life just fine.

        Most people are aware that he's maintaining the bridge, we're just upset that he's doing so.

        4 votes
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      tomorrow-never-knows
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      I mean, that sounds like a pretty reasonable moderate position, he even makes a point about political relativism there in that he doesn't agree with the "Right" because in reality what the term...

      I mean, that sounds like a pretty reasonable moderate position, he even makes a point about political relativism there in that he doesn't agree with the "Right" because in reality what the term now embodies has swung so far along the spectrum it's become an extremist position which he doesn't support. As for the 'no booing' thing, he basically explains his reasoning there with the Obama quote - why boo when there is a more effective alternative that works to disempower your opponent?

      33 votes
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        IsildursBane
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        On top of the Obama quote, Colbert goes on to explain that part of the reason is that the boo can drown out the lead up or punchline of the joke. I think that tells a lot. Colbert is not trying to...

        As for the 'no booing' thing, he basically explains his reasoning there with the Obama quote

        On top of the Obama quote, Colbert goes on to explain that part of the reason is that the boo can drown out the lead up or punchline of the joke. I think that tells a lot. Colbert is not trying to be a political commentator, but is an entertainer. I think people forget which role he is trying to play

        35 votes
        1. vord
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          Trump is a narcissist. Laughing at him will piss him off way more than any boos. The only thing that would piss him off more is to be ignored.

          Trump is a narcissist. Laughing at him will piss him off way more than any boos.

          The only thing that would piss him off more is to be ignored.

          10 votes
    4. tyrny
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      Colbert isn’t retiring. I really wouldn’t expect him to start burning bridges with the industry he is still working in.

      Colbert isn’t retiring. I really wouldn’t expect him to start burning bridges with the industry he is still working in.

      24 votes
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      arqalite
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      He tried so hard to be moderate with this statement that he went the other way and probably annoyed everyone.

      He tried so hard to be moderate with this statement that he went the other way and probably annoyed everyone.

      8 votes
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        JXM
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        Yes. That’s exactly the problem. And as we’ve seen, trying to find a bridge of commonality with Republicans these days is not possible. So we all get mad when someone is dumb enough to try....

        Yes. That’s exactly the problem. And as we’ve seen, trying to find a bridge of commonality with Republicans these days is not possible. So we all get mad when someone is dumb enough to try. Moderating your positions and meeting in the middle doesn’t work these days.

        7 votes
        1. stu2b50
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          I mean, is he trying to “bridge the gap” with republicans, or is that just how he is? I don’t think there’s any reason to doubt him if he says he’s a fairly moderate, by the book American...

          I mean, is he trying to “bridge the gap” with republicans, or is that just how he is? I don’t think there’s any reason to doubt him if he says he’s a fairly moderate, by the book American suburbanite. The modal American is (certainly the modal white college educated American). There’s nothing wrong with it.

          The average American is strongly against political violence and the average online Reddit/twitter/Bluesky user is highly for political violence. That is what it is, but it’s fallacious to expect Colbert to be in the latter just because he dunks on Trump in his show.

          28 votes