Paywalled but from the headline that i could read, isnt this obvious? Who needed an article to figure this one out? Doctors have been called out for years as being under the pay of certain...
Paywalled but from the headline that i could read, isnt this obvious? Who needed an article to figure this one out?
Doctors have been called out for years as being under the pay of certain pharmaceutical brands that want to push certain new drugs, dog food influencers get paid to shill constantly. Even just getting something for free usually turns someone into a walking billboard.
Edit: ive now read this, i dunno maybe its not obvious that these "dieticians" are clearly bought and sold. They have zero ethics and the companies that pay them hide behind official sounding names like American Beverage Association which to some tired parents might seem like a green check for giving their kid that cola that they wont shut up about.
Additionally, im also not cool with stigmatizing food and the old adage about moderation is key to my (admittedly flawed) diet. But these ideas need to come from grassroots communities unmotivated by external capital. If they're so cool with cola and candy then they should be shilling it without an attached ad. Its all a grift in this space, same voodoo bs to attract desperate people that the manosphere uses. Just now its eternal youth and health rather than sex.
This is wrong on so many levels. See evidence of the contrary in this post I made regarding diabetes. How can you so blatantly mislead patients that depend on you for so called expert advice....
In a third video, Mary Ellen Phipps, a Houston-area dietitian who specializes in diabetes care, sipped from a glass of soda and told her Instagram viewers that artificial sweeteners “satisfy the desire for sweetness” without affecting blood sugar or insulin levels.
This is wrong on so many levels. See evidence of the contrary in this post I made regarding diabetes. How can you so blatantly mislead patients that depend on you for so called expert advice. Probably even advised by unknowing physicians to go seek help from a dietician.
They are truly a disgrace for paramedics in general, worsening the faith in health care professionals all around. Bribed by the industry to get that sweet dough. Preying on the weak and vulnerable. I don’t believe they even believe what they say themselves, which makes it even more vile.
If I see anyone shilling aspartame, I immediately report it as health misinformation. The more I read into aspartame, the more I get incensed that companies are trying to convince the public the...
If I see anyone shilling aspartame, I immediately report it as health misinformation. The more I read into aspartame, the more I get incensed that companies are trying to convince the public the stuff is safe.
I may be anecdata, but I get blinding headaches from consuming the stuff. I had migraines for years and was a chronic gum chewer. Once I started chewing xylitol gum at the request of my dentist, the migraines went away for the most part (except when I get my period).
I'm not alone in this. I've known several people who get really sick from aspartame, and have had to go on elimination diets to figure out what was making them so sick. They were all diet soda drinkers. Now, there's so much more in soda than just the aspartame, but if they drink something else sweetened with similar ingredients, they aren't getting sick like they do with the aspartame.
I really wish companies would eliminate it from products.
I wonder if it's a sensitivity issue. I use aspartame to sweeten my coffee most days, and there's no correlation between that and my migraines. I'm actually more likely to get a migraine on a day...
I wonder if it's a sensitivity issue. I use aspartame to sweeten my coffee most days, and there's no correlation between that and my migraines. I'm actually more likely to get a migraine on a day I didn't have aspartame, but that's a misleading correlation because those are days I may not have had any caffeine.
I think it is just a sensitivity thing. I drink asertame most days also and I've never felt any negative effects from it or really any change at all with it compared to other sweeteners.
I think it is just a sensitivity thing. I drink asertame most days also and I've never felt any negative effects from it or really any change at all with it compared to other sweeteners.
I think you're leaping too far into thinking that aspartame is bad based on your experiences with it; specially the statement you make about reporting shilling comments about it as misinformation....
I think you're leaping too far into thinking that aspartame is bad based on your experiences with it; specially the statement you make about reporting shilling comments about it as misinformation. While aspartame may be bad for you and other individuals (Another comment mentioned sensitivity which I think is important here), studies have shown it has no adverse effects for general human consumption in moderation. Now it does not exist in a vacuum, it is used to replace sugar and again, for most of the population that leads to improvements in health outcomes in the form of reduced likelihood of developing diabetes and heart disease.
I went through a brain tumor scare while in middle-school due to aspartame causing me migraines. For roughly a week, I would attend gym and then immediately come down with an ocular migraine. Full...
I went through a brain tumor scare while in middle-school due to aspartame causing me migraines. For roughly a week, I would attend gym and then immediately come down with an ocular migraine. Full on auras of spinning gray and black dots, loose my ability to read and eventually loose half my sight, and sometimes would get numbness in my nose and tongue. It was absolutely terrifying dealing with this day after day and I was referred out to a pediatric neurologist.
The migraines continued and eventually a MRI was done on my brain, where fortunately nothing was found. But it still left questions on why this kept happening, so my diet was the next thing to be evaluated. The one thing that finally connected the dots was the Propel flavored sports water that I would get from the vending machine after gym had aspartame. The moment I stopped purchasing those, the daily migraines stopped! Sure every once and a while I would accidentally eat aspartame, like my mom giving me sugar free gum on a hot day without thinking, but overall they reduced when I avoided consumption.
I'm still wary of it even though I don't think it's as big of a migraine trigger for me now when compared to when I was going through puberty. I can't help but wonder if there's something hormonally at play with it, but that requires more thorough research than my pondering!
There must be! Most of the people I know with issues with aspartame are AFAB. I would love for there to be more research into how this sweetener affects people from an independent source, not...
There must be! Most of the people I know with issues with aspartame are AFAB.
I would love for there to be more research into how this sweetener affects people from an independent source, not these soda companies out to make money.
Would you be able to provide some resources that you’ve found enlightening? I’ll be honest, with how many different regulatory bodies that have approved it around the world, this reads a lot like...
Would you be able to provide some resources that you’ve found enlightening? I’ll be honest, with how many different regulatory bodies that have approved it around the world, this reads a lot like the MSG “Chinese restaurant syndrome”.
Thanks for taking the time to dig these up! The WHO assessment actually came up on Tildes before. @DanBC had a great comment discussing the nuance of the WHO’s labeling. The “possibly...
Thanks for taking the time to dig these up!
The WHO assessment actually came up on Tildes before. @DanBC had a great comment discussing the nuance of the WHO’s labeling. The “possibly carcinogenic” 2B label is very weak. From the page you linked, “The committee therefore reaffirmed that it is safe for a person to consume [aspartame] within this [unchanged] limit per day.”
The linked limited study does show there may be a link to headaches. I don’t know enough to confidently assess it, I’ll trust your judgement here.
The University of Cincinnati link 404s for me.
Overall, I’m still not seeing nearly enough evidence for such strong opposition, let alone pushing for its ban and believing people in favor of it are misinformation-spreading shills.
I find this particularly frustrating as an advocate of intuitive eating and general anti "dieting" person. Because they're taking that language and both twisting it to mean things it doesn't AND...
I find this particularly frustrating as an advocate of intuitive eating and general anti "dieting" person. Because they're taking that language and both twisting it to mean things it doesn't AND playing into the critics who claim IE is just eating anything you want all the time.
I think there's so much value in the idea that permitting yourself your cravings actually reduces the frequency and intensity of them. If I have ice cream in the house I won't generally buy something when I'm out, because I have something I like at home. If I have premium ice cream I actually like, I won't eat the entire pint the way I might with Halo Top and it's "you can eat the entire thing but it's only ice-cream-ish" And often when I come home I don't even end up eating any because I'm full from dinner.
I'm not perfect at this but I also don't dive down a shame spiral if I do have a day where I over eat, I'm not miserable from being hungry all the time, and my blood sugar is well maintained. (And weight loss isn't a goal of mine but given the absolute hell of a year I've had with zero significant fluctuation I think I'm well at this set point). IE also includes listening to how your body feels after you eat things - oh man a whole sleeve of cookies makes me feel like shit, actually eating a few feels fine. I can have more later if I want them. And being thoughtful in general about food.
I have a few virtual dieticians I like, mostly for their lack of these ads as well as their focus more on debunking influencer nonsense (don't eat seed oils, buy these chips I make money on with seed oils in them, etc). There are good voices out there. One of my fav just does some "this meal is good enough" videos and makes "simple meals" easier for folks with executive dysfunction or with little time or money.
I would love to the Post or another publication dig into our food pyramid, the influence of the dairy and meat industries on marketing and US government recommendations and where these come from. Because I think that's worse than an influencer with however many followers. Everyone gets exposed to it instead (or the equivalent in their country)
I haven't seen any wacky diets on Instagram, but I have seen many flat out "woo" advertisements. Maybe that is a function of their stupid algorithm and not representative of what can be found on...
I haven't seen any wacky diets on Instagram, but I have seen many flat out "woo" advertisements.
Maybe that is a function of their stupid algorithm and not representative of what can be found on Instagram.
I don't much about the Instagram default settings. I am guessing target ads is one of them. It is kind of insulting what their algorithm thinks I need! LOL :-).
I don't much about the Instagram default settings. I am guessing target ads is one of them. It is kind of insulting what their algorithm thinks I need! LOL :-).
Even health advice from professionals should be weighed carefully: The same applies to all sorts of areas of knowledge. Cynicism, in some areas of life, is the only sane perspective. I'm not even...
Even health advice from professionals should be weighed carefully:
"It is simply no longer possible to believe much of the clinical research that is published, or to rely on the judgment of trusted physicians or authoritative medical guidelines. I take no pleasure in this conclusion, which I reached slowly and reluctantly over my two decades as an editor of the New England Journal of Medicine." - Source
The same applies to all sorts of areas of knowledge. Cynicism, in some areas of life, is the only sane perspective. I'm not even sure cynicism is the right word in this context. Is a viewpoint that follows from the available evidence cynical? Or instead is it just the opposite of denial?
Paywalled but from the headline that i could read, isnt this obvious? Who needed an article to figure this one out?
Doctors have been called out for years as being under the pay of certain pharmaceutical brands that want to push certain new drugs, dog food influencers get paid to shill constantly. Even just getting something for free usually turns someone into a walking billboard.
Edit: ive now read this, i dunno maybe its not obvious that these "dieticians" are clearly bought and sold. They have zero ethics and the companies that pay them hide behind official sounding names like American Beverage Association which to some tired parents might seem like a green check for giving their kid that cola that they wont shut up about.
Additionally, im also not cool with stigmatizing food and the old adage about moderation is key to my (admittedly flawed) diet. But these ideas need to come from grassroots communities unmotivated by external capital. If they're so cool with cola and candy then they should be shilling it without an attached ad. Its all a grift in this space, same voodoo bs to attract desperate people that the manosphere uses. Just now its eternal youth and health rather than sex.
This is an archive link.
Gracias, i really gotta learn how to find these myself.
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This is wrong on so many levels. See evidence of the contrary in this post I made regarding diabetes. How can you so blatantly mislead patients that depend on you for so called expert advice. Probably even advised by unknowing physicians to go seek help from a dietician.
They are truly a disgrace for paramedics in general, worsening the faith in health care professionals all around. Bribed by the industry to get that sweet dough. Preying on the weak and vulnerable. I don’t believe they even believe what they say themselves, which makes it even more vile.
I take @countchocula 's point about this being obvious, but the article is a great read. I hadn't expected the scale at which this is taking place.
Read "Salt Sugar Fat" by Micheal Moss. This has been going on for decades.
If I see anyone shilling aspartame, I immediately report it as health misinformation. The more I read into aspartame, the more I get incensed that companies are trying to convince the public the stuff is safe.
I may be anecdata, but I get blinding headaches from consuming the stuff. I had migraines for years and was a chronic gum chewer. Once I started chewing xylitol gum at the request of my dentist, the migraines went away for the most part (except when I get my period).
I'm not alone in this. I've known several people who get really sick from aspartame, and have had to go on elimination diets to figure out what was making them so sick. They were all diet soda drinkers. Now, there's so much more in soda than just the aspartame, but if they drink something else sweetened with similar ingredients, they aren't getting sick like they do with the aspartame.
I really wish companies would eliminate it from products.
I wonder if it's a sensitivity issue. I use aspartame to sweeten my coffee most days, and there's no correlation between that and my migraines. I'm actually more likely to get a migraine on a day I didn't have aspartame, but that's a misleading correlation because those are days I may not have had any caffeine.
I think it is just a sensitivity thing. I drink asertame most days also and I've never felt any negative effects from it or really any change at all with it compared to other sweeteners.
It's entirely possible, but switching to a gum with aspartame to one without, is mostly a change in one ingredient.
Right, so it would make sense for someone with a sensitivity to experience relief. I don't understand the use of the word "but" in your comment.
I think you're leaping too far into thinking that aspartame is bad based on your experiences with it; specially the statement you make about reporting shilling comments about it as misinformation. While aspartame may be bad for you and other individuals (Another comment mentioned sensitivity which I think is important here), studies have shown it has no adverse effects for general human consumption in moderation. Now it does not exist in a vacuum, it is used to replace sugar and again, for most of the population that leads to improvements in health outcomes in the form of reduced likelihood of developing diabetes and heart disease.
I went through a brain tumor scare while in middle-school due to aspartame causing me migraines. For roughly a week, I would attend gym and then immediately come down with an ocular migraine. Full on auras of spinning gray and black dots, loose my ability to read and eventually loose half my sight, and sometimes would get numbness in my nose and tongue. It was absolutely terrifying dealing with this day after day and I was referred out to a pediatric neurologist.
The migraines continued and eventually a MRI was done on my brain, where fortunately nothing was found. But it still left questions on why this kept happening, so my diet was the next thing to be evaluated. The one thing that finally connected the dots was the Propel flavored sports water that I would get from the vending machine after gym had aspartame. The moment I stopped purchasing those, the daily migraines stopped! Sure every once and a while I would accidentally eat aspartame, like my mom giving me sugar free gum on a hot day without thinking, but overall they reduced when I avoided consumption.
I'm still wary of it even though I don't think it's as big of a migraine trigger for me now when compared to when I was going through puberty. I can't help but wonder if there's something hormonally at play with it, but that requires more thorough research than my pondering!
There must be! Most of the people I know with issues with aspartame are AFAB.
I would love for there to be more research into how this sweetener affects people from an independent source, not these soda companies out to make money.
Would you be able to provide some resources that you’ve found enlightening? I’ll be honest, with how many different regulatory bodies that have approved it around the world, this reads a lot like the MSG “Chinese restaurant syndrome”.
WHO says it may be carcinogenic
A very limited study
University of Cincinnati
Thanks for taking the time to dig these up!
The WHO assessment actually came up on Tildes before. @DanBC had a great comment discussing the nuance of the WHO’s labeling. The “possibly carcinogenic” 2B label is very weak. From the page you linked, “The committee therefore reaffirmed that it is safe for a person to consume [aspartame] within this [unchanged] limit per day.”
The linked limited study does show there may be a link to headaches. I don’t know enough to confidently assess it, I’ll trust your judgement here.
The University of Cincinnati link 404s for me.
Overall, I’m still not seeing nearly enough evidence for such strong opposition, let alone pushing for its ban and believing people in favor of it are misinformation-spreading shills.
I find this particularly frustrating as an advocate of intuitive eating and general anti "dieting" person. Because they're taking that language and both twisting it to mean things it doesn't AND playing into the critics who claim IE is just eating anything you want all the time.
I think there's so much value in the idea that permitting yourself your cravings actually reduces the frequency and intensity of them. If I have ice cream in the house I won't generally buy something when I'm out, because I have something I like at home. If I have premium ice cream I actually like, I won't eat the entire pint the way I might with Halo Top and it's "you can eat the entire thing but it's only ice-cream-ish" And often when I come home I don't even end up eating any because I'm full from dinner.
I'm not perfect at this but I also don't dive down a shame spiral if I do have a day where I over eat, I'm not miserable from being hungry all the time, and my blood sugar is well maintained. (And weight loss isn't a goal of mine but given the absolute hell of a year I've had with zero significant fluctuation I think I'm well at this set point). IE also includes listening to how your body feels after you eat things - oh man a whole sleeve of cookies makes me feel like shit, actually eating a few feels fine. I can have more later if I want them. And being thoughtful in general about food.
I have a few virtual dieticians I like, mostly for their lack of these ads as well as their focus more on debunking influencer nonsense (don't eat seed oils, buy these chips I make money on with seed oils in them, etc). There are good voices out there. One of my fav just does some "this meal is good enough" videos and makes "simple meals" easier for folks with executive dysfunction or with little time or money.
I would love to the Post or another publication dig into our food pyramid, the influence of the dairy and meat industries on marketing and US government recommendations and where these come from. Because I think that's worse than an influencer with however many followers. Everyone gets exposed to it instead (or the equivalent in their country)
I haven't seen any wacky diets on Instagram, but I have seen many flat out "woo" advertisements.
Maybe that is a function of their stupid algorithm and not representative of what can be found on Instagram.
It's very dependent on your demographic. I also turned off targeted advertizing and omg, all I get are diet ads now.
I don't much about the Instagram default settings. I am guessing target ads is one of them. It is kind of insulting what their algorithm thinks I need! LOL :-).
Even health advice from professionals should be weighed carefully:
The same applies to all sorts of areas of knowledge. Cynicism, in some areas of life, is the only sane perspective. I'm not even sure cynicism is the right word in this context. Is a viewpoint that follows from the available evidence cynical? Or instead is it just the opposite of denial?