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Tildes Minecraft Survival Bi-Weekly Thread
Server host: tildes.nore.gg
Dynmap: https://tildes.nore.gg
The server operates on a soft whitelist. Anyone can log in and walk around, but you need a Tildes account to gain build access.
Server Changelog
- Added support for connecting from Bedrock Edition. Just plug in the same server host as for Java Edition. No need for a Java Edition account either.
- If you have both editions you can link your accounts here. Then when you log in through Bedrock Edition you will log into your Java Edition account (with its name and inventory)
- Updated to 1.20.2 (Please update your client!)
- Added a slick custom plugin that automatically makes links in chat clickable (for Tildes account holders only)
- Changed to only require one player sleeping in a bed to skip night
- Created a custom treasure hunt plugin with more functionality than the previous (lag inducing) script
Finally joined up this week, been having a great time. Slowly but surely building up my island. Loving all the cool stuff y'all have built!
I'm curious to know how people are going to vote on the mob vote coming up.
Here's the list of mobs that have been announced, where you can find them, and what features they will bring to the game.
1. The Crab
Crabs will be added to the mangrove biome, and will drop their claws. Their claws will allow players to place blocks from a farther distance.
2. The Armadillo
The armadillo will be found in savannah biomes. It will drop scutes, which can be used to craft armor for your pet dog.
3. The Penguin
The penguin will be found on stony shores, and will help your boat move faster.
Would you pick 1, 2, or 3?
I am rooting for penguins, for a few reasons.
The first is that penguins are cuter and I think them being social, curious about players, graceful in water, and clumsy on land is more interesting than the crab's wave or the 'dillo rolling into a ball.
Of the three biomes mentioned, mangrove swamps have low visibility due to foliage so an extra mob won't do anything to make the place feel more alive. And savannas are in the biome vote queue with two mobs coming, termites and ostriches. Both those biomes have unique trees to boot. Meanwhile stony shores lack even the basic passive mobs since they only spawn on grass, and a mob there would do wonders to bring life to the biome.
The only way wolf armor will maaaybe make wolves worthwhile is if it's enchantable and I don't see that happening. Crab claws are just as likely to be worth the inventory slot as not. Meanwhile you can use boats to nullify fall damage, pacify pesky melee mobs including endermen and their teleportation, prevent a mob from despawning if you don't have a nametag handy, and travel faster than elytra with ice roads. Boats are so useful that I have one near my hotbar from day 1 to endgame. Even in the rare instance that I don't, I almost always have a stack of logs on me or a tree nearby.
So a feature that improves boats, however small, is guaranteed upside that doesn't cost a precious inventory slot. If they had said the claw broke blocks in addition to just placing them, or if the extra reach ability was an enchantment instead of an item, it would probably tip me in favor of crabs. But as it stands, I can't be sure the claw will be worth the slot until it's in the game, well after the vote. So I am voting for cute penguin boat upgrades.
I'm honestly underwhelmed by all 3 choices. Longer reach would be nice (how much longer? Same as creative?), but does it mean we'd need to have the crab claw in the off hand all the time? Wolf armor is alright I guess. Faster boat movement is meh when elytra are a thing.
If we're ignoring changes to gameplay, I'd vote armadillo so that we have a little more life in savanna biomes.
Boats on packed ice are best (unrelated to Penguin), also much easier to get than elytras which many people won't even get considering there's still a ton of people who have never beaten the Ender Dragon.
Then, again, the boat is arguably the best item in the game (vid is about speedrunning, but also mentions its use in general; and it's very true imo): https://youtu.be/07WUv-Pn2iM?si=gjPGoYlMQlApey7Z
Keep in mind I might not know if the boat was nerfed now or so. Since a long time I almost only play on modded beta versions (where the boat isn't even that good tho, haha). Just thought it could be interesting to see.
Armadillo is the cutest option. I think the amount of dev time allocated to the mob vote is pretty limited. Phantoms and glow squid were also pretty meh.
Definitely agreed. I thought the Allay would bring a lot more change than it did tbh. The mechanics of how to use it ended up killing its utility. Seemed like they were really reaching for a reason to use note blocks more often.
I know what you mean. I made a datapack to bind them to note blocks permanently and it's such a gamechanger. In singleplayer I've got a small swarm of them collecting and sorting wheat, honey, honeycomb, and sniffer drops.
I wish we knew more about the mechanics. The penguin and the crab especially seem really vague. Based on a aesthetics I like the armadillo, and I think it might be cool if it was able to go from entity to block when it curls up.
Right? Does the penguin need to be in the boat to be helpful, or do you get a temporary boost by being nearby like dolphins provide?
Exactly. Seems like it would make more sense to just extend the dolphin mechanic to boats and have the penguins do something else. In modded I've seen penguins that trade valuables for fish. That seems more useful to me. And the crab mechanic just seems so nonsensical. Why would crab increase reach?
I'm assuming you take a crab claw and put it on a stick. Then it's a little extendy grabber thing.
Haha, I didn't think about that option. That's actually sort of hilarious and awesome.
Personally I feel like the crab is the best option. Dog armor seems cool but I would like that to come with other dog buffs and I don't expect that will happen. As for penguins, now that we have elytras boat travel needs to compete with that. That's hard for a water-based mode of transportation.
I was on the fence between the crab and the armadillo, but you rais a good point about the "pet update". Maybe I'll vote for the crab.
Hey all! Somehow, I've ended up with someone else's bow. I have no idea whose it is, it's called "don't you look fletching". I think I must have picked it up somewhere? If it's your bow, I'd be happy to hop on and return it.
I made Don't You Look Fletching, and a few other bad-pun-named bows, and left them for anyone to use/have/keep.
However you came by it, you're welcome to it.
Thanks for the reply! Would you mind if I put it in the new players bin? I have no real use for it, as I already have my own bow…
Do with it as you will. :)
Built a nice little automated furnace system that I go over in more detail in this imgur album. tl;dl: It's an automated carpet duper that feeds into a rail-based furnace system. And it automatically turns itself off once the final fuel storage chest fill 2/3 of the way up (remaining 1/3 comes from what's already in the hoppers).
The only problem is that I basically have nothing left to smelt/cook. I used all of it up in the testing as I was building it! So if anyone needs to smelt a ton of stuff, feel free to make use of it. Enter the nether roof portal and follow the gray carpets to my portal. It's in the building with the smokestacks. Should be enough fuel loaded into the system to run for a while.
Just drop your cookables into the double chest on the top of the furnace part.
edit: As of Oct 8th I decided to rebuild the furnace entirely. In reworking my item transportation system between storage and the furnace, I learned a lot about comparators, realized how useful chest carts are, realized I don't need a hopper to drop items into furnaces if I have a hopper cart, and lots of other stuff. So I'll be putting that knowledge to use in rebuilding the furnace!
edit2: As of Oct 9th, I removed the carpet duper. The duper itself, the water elevator and hopper system worked really well, but carpet is a terrible fuel source unless you're dumping a full stack of it into a furnace. Which is not something a rail system can do very well.
A single cobblestone needed x2 carpets to turn into stone and the rail-fed system wasn't fast enough. So it ended up wasting a bunch of carpet until the whole system is flooded with carpet and only then can it keep up. So I basically removed everything and created a simpler rail system that just pulls fuel from a chest.
I think I have a bunch of copper ore, and with fortune that makes heaps, so I'll be able to test it soon^TM
Hey all. I don't really see many people on anymore but...
I've finished 3 holes at the new Tildes Country Club and Golf Course. I'd be happy to have some folks play and provide feedback. There's a book once you enter that has the how-to and game rules.
Note: Riptide 3 can really launch an ender pearl if you time it right, so it can go into unloaded chunks and disappear. Only the driving range has a chunk loader near the back, so I recommend playing golf with another person and trade off teeing/loading chunks. The other option is to play with elytra on and enter fly mode once you throw the ender pearl so you glide after it. Don't use rockets doing this - it can get a little weird (and dangerous) sometimes.
To get to the course, get to the nether roof from town. Follow the lime green carpet passed the gold farm. A green carpet will split off. Follow that to the golf course.
I was offline following my surgery, so the wood glass atom flower is on hold but I will finish it. It's kind of disheartening to play alone though. Feels worse than singleplayer.
I hear you. It was fun when there were always people on and chatting - so even if you were off doing something by yourself, it felt like a community. When you're on alone all the time, its just boring
What if we had dedicated meet up days? Like, every saturday or something.
Or maybe a weekly build challenge if minigames aren't enticing. 🤔
Maybe something like a day where each of us have to pull a challenge out of a hat (dropper) like in the Secret Life SMP. We'd have to collectively come up with challenges though.
Haha, I'm loving the chaos of secret life BTW.
Perhaps we can find more scripts like the treasure hunt that happen at specific times to encourage people joining at discrete times? Perhaps staggered somewhat so there's always a reasonable time that works for people regardless of timezones.
How do I get on top of the nether hub?
There's a separate portal in town in the middle of the air just to the west of the giant statue (666, -365), that will put you on the nether roof.
Should probably extend a walkway out to there and add signs, right now you'll need to fly/swim to the water elevator.
From town, next to the giant statue is a floating platform. If you have wings, fly to it. Otherwise you can swim and take the bubble-vator up.
I'll come give it a try next time I'm on
@lou @ecchi @cfabbro @Starman2112 - the server now natively supports Bedrock Edition
That's cool! How can I access it from my Xbox?
I don't have an Xbox, but on iOS I tested successfully that I could connect. I added a custom server and plugged in
tildes.nore.gg. Worked without any trouble.I see an option to "Join Realm", but no option to add a custom server :(
The "Server" tab only shows "Featured Servers".
Scroll down below the featured servers. Do you see anything?
Nope. It only shows the featured servers I'm afraid.
Maybe Minecraft is cross buy? I do have a PCI can install both versions on PC with Game Pass. I suppose Java is better?Here's a video that outlines a couple of methods of doing some network trickery to get xbox connected to a custom server: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Z6f-2vNpH0
Oh you have it? Yes use Java edition. The newest version.
Slowly continuing work on the spleef arena, mostly the underside support pillars/arches since I haven't settled on a good design for the main above-ground structure yet. I also keep being distracted by ideas for other projects entirely, like a scenic railway looping around the sea to the south of town.
Underneath there (on Wealdstone Road in town) is a functional-but-not-pretty rail tunnel that leads to the desert to the southeast. Stops at the jungle (1000, 1200), west desert (1500, 1200), and central desert isle near red sand (2000, 1200). Eventually extending into the badlands (2500, 1200) but need to lay the rest of the rails for that. Wouldn't mind having the Acacia Line extend south from the Trading Hall to connect with the end in town but it's nowhere close to being ready yet.
I was considering elevating Lonely Mountain Road since I'd like to keep a clear waterway for boating around the town. However I'm not sure if it even gets used at all, especially with the less-lit section running by the swamp.
It would be nice if major water way areas were lighted to keep mobs from surprising you. I got nailed by a trident thrower.
It's unfortunately pretty hard to Drowned-proof things. They can spawn anywhere underwater with light level zero iirc, so it can be tough in deeper areas to keep them from spawning.
If there were more waterways in town I would likely use them, i usually boat my way there from home anyway.
Also can I request some things to be added to the server?
I'd love to be able to collect mob heads (maybe make them kinda rare considering how often some mobs get killed) and maybe even player heads, and on a similar note another server I played on had mini-blocks (which were customised mob-heads) for every kind of block that you can get, and were sold by the wandering trader.
These options (especially the mini-blocks) are great for adding a little extra decoration around your builds, and they're heaps fun to collect!
Second this. Both are available via vanilla tweaks, and it can be a lot of fun to collect them. IIRC the datapacks can be configured to control the drop rate.
Thanks to the treasure hunt I just got my first pair of elytra ever (last time I played the game they didn't exist) without needing to visit the end or borrow the community set.
They coincidentally spawned by a railway stop while I was working on a nearby section so was a quick ride/run over there to the chest.
Another happy customer! :D
Since the last thread update, I've made a trident farm that's fast rates but dangerous (literally just an enormous block of water, about a chunk wide and 8 chunks long, all the way up to build limit) so if you're planning on heading out that way, make sure you bring good armour, good food, and most importantly a shield! Tridents will hurt even with endgame gear!
To get out there, follow the prismarine path -- it now forks at the guardian farm and continues for about twice the distance -- but if you're after a lot of tridents, that's probably your best bet.
Thanks for this. I spent a lot of time there getting all the tridents for the golf course. Only died once. Wearing full armor instead of elytra really helps
No worries! And yeah I think it’s easy to forget just how much extra armour a chest plate really adds!
I once played on a server where you could combine a chest plate and elytra to get armoured elytra, and I enjoyed getting the defence back but I think being forced to make that trade off makes the game more interesting.
In general, I don't usually need the extra armor so I don't really worry about it. But when I need it, I need it.
The only thing about using a chestplate in your farm instead of elytra is when you need to jump out the side for air. I am so used to having elytra, that I forget when I don't have it.
I ported the treasure hunt script into a plugin and have that running on the server now. The treasure hunt is a little more interesting than before and I should be able to refine and expand upon it more easily.
Woo! New weekly thread! I'm on travel without my gaming laptop for a couple of weeks so I'm excited to live vicariously through the comments here. 😅
Bedrock support is awesome. Last time I tried it on one of my servers it was clunky. I'm glad people are continuing to improve support and closing the gap between versions.
If anybody wants a redstone project:
The piglin bartering system gets pretty backed up after a long session - to the point the dropper elevators stop working.
I've already redone the hopper lines which helped, but the problem simply comes down to hoppers being so slow.
If has any idea on how to fix and improve the migration of items from the dropper elevators to the storage system, please feel free to tackle it. I've exhausted myself trying to get it to work nicely
I’ll take a look at it, but can’t make any promises… I’m okay at redstone when I’m following tutorials, but not great at spotting issues and coming up with novel solutions…
If it’s an issue that things get backed up in the pipes before they get sorted, could that be solved by just having a large buffer between the bartering and the sorting? Like, instead of the hoppers feeding directly into the sorting, they dump everything into some chests and then the sorting happens from there?
That might be the best way: have the dropper-vators unload into chests, have hopper minecarts unload the chests and transport to the sorting system and drop off in more chests. I just didnt want to figure it out
This design is immensely helpful for these massive item dumps that large farms like these produce. It utilizes hopper minecarts.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQkErJBQSxo
Also not really an expert, but minecart hoppers can be ridiculously fast when used thoughtfully. I had an automated bamboo farm in a world once that fed a super smelter array, and I used stacked (think how tnt minecarts get stacked/glitched in the same block space) hopper minecarts to buffer a huge backlog of bamboo.
That, and also there's the putting a chestboat on top of 4 hoppers, but I'm not redstoner so idk if that's helpful.
Question: Has anyone set up a camel farm yet? If not I might make one as time permits.
Not that I've heard of
I took a look this morning at my mods to update them to the 1.20.2 version, but unfortunately almost all my mods do not have a 1.20.2 version yet. I'm still away and not expecting to get really back to the server until Tuesday, but it's a bit disappointing that I won't be able to use the (almost exclusively) QoL mods..
In case anyone is wondering about their mods, these are updated:
These of mine are not:
Hopefully these will update soon...
Join us on Fabric. We have cookies and (mostly) updated mods :P
You'll likely see a performance improvement over Optifine using Sodium/Lithium, and you can still use the shader you're used to using Iris. There's even a connected textures mod and texture pack. The only thing I miss from Optifine is hitting Z to zoom in, but I'm sure there's another Fabric mod for that :)
There is definitely a mod for zoom, and in the past I've seen one that assigns a hotkey to use a spyglass if you have one in your inventory. I especially like that one because you have to work to get the zoom in game, but don't have to always keep the spyglass on the hot bar. If I get a chance later I'll see if I can track those mods down and edit this comment.
Update: I'm pretty sure I've used Logical Zoom, and it looks like it might still be maintained. No 1.20.2 version as of this comment, but 1.20.1 is there.
There is also Zoomify but I can't recall if that was the one I used before with the spyglass integration. It does look promising though and is all the way up to date.
I have! I gave up and am on the fabric team for now (though indeed I really miss Z to zoom in :p).
Sorry about that. The mods I was using were all updated so I assumed most big ones had already been updated.
I thought the same thing lol, super annoying that they're so far behind (esp cause they're all big big mods?? Usually they're updated within a week??).. ah well, guess nothing to do but wait! (And subject myself to ugly shaderless Minecraft until optifine gets its shit together :p)
I have shaders using Lithium.
I highly recommend fabric with sodium/iris for shaders. Very performant for a vanillaish client. I am also using Xaeros, but I'm not sure if your other mods have fabric ports/equivalents. Might be worth a check though.
I’m playing on 1.19.4 and connecting with via fabric plus to the server on 1.20.2, I can’t recommend this setup enough. It works great for me and it’s all client side.
What benefits are there? Aren’t you missing some blocks or UI that was added?
The benefits are that I don’t have to manage mods and mod versions. I use prism launcher, so most of that is taken care of, but it’s nice to have stability.
As for blocks missing or other bugs, I’ve not seen anything like that, It’s just sometimes a little slower connecting to a server.
I'm missing masa's mods and logicalzoom. INP fabric is thankfully updated.