It may have nothing to do with it but I was surprised a fall 2024 date was being floated at all. The March date for the original Switch worked out incredibly well, I liked that by the holidays the...
It may have nothing to do with it but I was surprised a fall 2024 date was being floated at all. The March date for the original Switch worked out incredibly well, I liked that by the holidays the system was out and had some games available, and it also meant mode time to cook for games releasing with it (for example Mario Odyssey releasing 7 months later instead of being pushed at launch to make the holiday launch window).
wild speculation but i wonder if they pushed it back bc they had to make some piracy related last minute changes i heard some noise the other week about how there are now flash carts for sale that...
wild speculation but i wonder if they pushed it back bc they had to make some piracy related last minute changes
i heard some noise the other week about how there are now flash carts for sale that get around the drm stuff by being a more effective clone. (and also a lot of concern about people selling original carts after cloning them and both accounts getting banned bc the IDs are the same)
Doubful, I think some key games just need more time. They wouldn't ruin the ideal holiday window because some people who will hack the console anyway would hack it a little sooner.
i wonder if they pushed it back bc they had to make some piracy related last minute changes
Doubful, I think some key games just need more time. They wouldn't ruin the ideal holiday window because some people who will hack the console anyway would hack it a little sooner.
Switch anti-piracy has been pretty good at its job. We just now have a somewhat working flashcart, although the UX is horrible still. That took a whopping 7 years. Additionally, the main reliable...
Switch anti-piracy has been pretty good at its job. We just now have a somewhat working flashcart, although the UX is horrible still. That took a whopping 7 years. Additionally, the main reliable exploit people use for hacked switches is still fusee, so if you have a modern switch that has the hardware exploit fixed, you really don't have many options for piracy.
It's a big difference from the DS/GBA flashcart days. In terms of "hack it anyway", having someone hack it 1 year in vs 7 years in is not a trivial difference.
Sure, but you're comparing a modern switch to the launch one. The launch switch has a not completly trivial but also fairly easy exploit, so switch hacking has been doable since near Day 1 until...
Sure, but you're comparing a modern switch to the launch one. The launch switch has a not completly trivial but also fairly easy exploit, so switch hacking has been doable since near Day 1 until maybe month 6-7. But that didn't stop the Switch from going on pace to be the best selling console of all time.
I imagine the number of people who would hack a switch even with a day 0 exploit would pale to those who'd buy (or try to buy; let's face it, we know the Nintendo supply constraints will hit hard again) a new console for holiday season for a loved one but may way if delayed to February/March.
since you seem to be more invested, have you heard much about the newer flashcart stuff? im not huge into console stuff so i didnt understand the nuance but the impression i got was that this...
since you seem to be more invested, have you heard much about the newer flashcart stuff? im not huge into console stuff so i didnt understand the nuance but the impression i got was that this newer flashcart thing is kinda scary given how nintendo dont typically handle edgecases gracefully.
apparently i can buy a legit copy of the game, clone it, keep the clone and sell you the legitimate version. now you own a legit copy of a game and have no idea it was pirated, but all of the IDs and whatnot have been copied over to the clone so if you both go online at the same time, its instantly detectable as some piracy is occuring and both accounts could be banned?
that wouldnt be just a regular "day 1 exploit" situation or even a regular piracy situation, this is a situation where youve completely voided any sort of 2nd hand market trust because genuine copies are just as radioactive as pirated ones if you're unlucky. idk how accurate any of that is, and so far im torn on if nintendo would hate or love it (something something cloud saves). also they seem like the company to 100% instaban both people and worry about the concequences if it makes enough of a PR splash
i agree its also likely that some games need to be delayed but also, i dont really see how its more likely for them to delay a holiday console release for a few games vs changing a security thing last minute before the hardware gets locked in for a few production runs.
I'm not sure about that; I suspect it's simply to do with the supply chain - in particular I would guess it is to do with the custom Nvidia chip being touted. That said, there has been a lot of...
I'm not sure about that; I suspect it's simply to do with the supply chain - in particular I would guess it is to do with the custom Nvidia chip being touted.
That said, there has been a lot of talk about how people have large catalogs of physical Switch 1 games and there might be backlash if Switch 2 is not backwards compatible with Switch 1 carts. If Nintendo wanted to dominate, they'd do two things: a) make Switch 2 backward compatible with Switch 1 carts, and b) make it as easy as Steam to publish indie games to an e-store for Switch 2.
As it stands, to publish an indie game on Switch, you either a) have to have a well known publisher backing you, or b) have your game published on another platform (PC etc.) with demonstrable download figures. A dedicated indie dev e-store would put the wind up the Steam Deck.
I always say whenever someone mentions backwards compatibility that Nintendo has been pretty consistent with it for the past 20 years. Gameboy > Gameboy Advance > DS > 3DS, and GameCube > Wii >...
I always say whenever someone mentions backwards compatibility that Nintendo has been pretty consistent with it for the past 20 years. Gameboy > Gameboy Advance > DS > 3DS, and GameCube > Wii > Wii U. They know how effective it is to get people to buy it, I'd be shocked if the nexf console wasn't backwards compatible with the Switch. (Though I am curious how it will handle virtual libraries...)
As for the eshop, I feel making it as open to indie devs as Steam would be a double-edged sword. There's already a lot of games on the Switch eshop accused of being more like mobile games and cheap cash grabs, and Steam has some pretty questionable indie games since they loosened their guidelines. As frustrating as it is for devs, from a consumer standpoint I think opening the process too much would make it harder to find good games. When looking at new releases on the eshop I swear there's always at least one game with "Hentai" in the title and other obvious quick cash grabs. They'd need to make some radical changes to the UI for players to sort through all the garbage.
That aside, I agree that the delay is likely due to supply chain logistics. I remember there was speculation back when the OLED was announced that it was originally supposed to be a "Switch Pro" but they had to change plans due to chip shortages. They got to see how the PS5 fared in its first two years with a limited stock, and Nintendo is no stranger to scalpers, so I can see them wanting to make sure they have a good supply ready for the first run.
Nintendo are so anti-consumer nowadays, even compared to the DS-3DS era. They'll probably do something evil like backwards compatibility only if you pay for the highest tier of the online...
Nintendo are so anti-consumer nowadays, even compared to the DS-3DS era. They'll probably do something evil like backwards compatibility only if you pay for the highest tier of the online subscription service. Switch's online subscription currently has cloud saves, so it's possible to transfer save games between consoles. I can imagine them using a similar idea to force people into keeping their old games via a subscription.
More wild speculation, but I'm constantly wondering whether they're going to take a dual screen approach as a measure to cut piracy by making it physically impossible (or at least cumbersome) to...
More wild speculation, but I'm constantly wondering whether they're going to take a dual screen approach as a measure to cut piracy by making it physically impossible (or at least cumbersome) to play games off of the console.
There are, but playing them single screen require overlap with one screen on the other. For most users, stacking TVs isn't viable. It'd likely be possible, just not widely doable.
There are, but playing them single screen require overlap with one screen on the other. For most users, stacking TVs isn't viable.
It depends on how to set up the second screen. I'd rather my geometry look good, so my second screen lives in the bottom right corner overtop of a full screen main game. What I'm saying is that if...
It depends on how to set up the second screen. I'd rather my geometry look good, so my second screen lives in the bottom right corner overtop of a full screen main game.
What I'm saying is that if you make things fucky for people, they're less likely to pirate if the experience isn't as good as it could be.
They do but the ideal way to play their games is on the original system imo, whereas with traditional systems it really doesn't matter matter. I have a 3DS and I would never choose to play a game...
They do but the ideal way to play their games is on the original system imo, whereas with traditional systems it really doesn't matter matter. I have a 3DS and I would never choose to play a game on Citra vs the real thing, whereas with say the GameCube it makes little difference to me.
It feels like Nintendo consoles (and consoles in general) are taking longer and longer to come out these days, is this just a product of hardware advancements slowing down as well, or is it...
It feels like Nintendo consoles (and consoles in general) are taking longer and longer to come out these days, is this just a product of hardware advancements slowing down as well, or is it because of the massive growth in gaming we've had over the past decade
Perhaps it's a combination of: games that push current hardware to its limitations becoming increasingly more complicated and expensive to make; conversely, indie development (which doesn't...
Perhaps it's a combination of:
games that push current hardware to its limitations becoming increasingly more complicated and expensive to make;
conversely, indie development (which doesn't require cutting edge hardware) becoming increasingly sustainable and accessible; and
diminishing returns on what improvements to pure processing power can bring to gameplay experience.
I always look forward to new Nintendo consoles given their track record of delivering weird and novel ways of playing games (even if they're not always successful), but I'm perfectly happy now with longer gaps between 'same thing but faster' hardware generations.
Someone should come up with a term for this, but you know when you don't want to upgrade because the next big thing is right around the corner and so you end up never upgrading? Yeah, that
Someone should come up with a term for this, but you know when you don't want to upgrade because the next big thing is right around the corner and so you end up never upgrading?
FYI, Tildes is a Canadian non-profit, and Canada has stricter copyright laws than the US in many regards, particularly when it comes to circumvention of "Technological Protection Measures (TPM)",...
FYI, Tildes is a Canadian non-profit, and Canada has stricter copyright laws than the US in many regards, particularly when it comes to circumvention of "Technological Protection Measures (TPM)", which paywalls count as. So the general policy here has always been to replace archive/mirror link topics with a link to their original source, unless that source no longer exists. So in future, please just submit the original source to save those of us with link editing permissions the trouble of having to change the link.
p.s. You can provide an archive/mirror link in the comments, but just be warned that if you're Canadian that could potentially open you up to legal liability. And there have been several cases of individuals and businesses being successfully sued for providing others the means to circumvent TPMs, paywalled articles included.
Difficult to say. I suspect it's unlikely since there are some protections provided to Canadian platforms that allow user comments. And I can't find any cases of platforms being sued for TPM...
Difficult to say. I suspect it's unlikely since there are some protections provided to Canadian platforms that allow user comments. And I can't find any cases of platforms being sued for TPM violations in user comments. IANAL though, so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.
It may have nothing to do with it but I was surprised a fall 2024 date was being floated at all. The March date for the original Switch worked out incredibly well, I liked that by the holidays the system was out and had some games available, and it also meant mode time to cook for games releasing with it (for example Mario Odyssey releasing 7 months later instead of being pushed at launch to make the holiday launch window).
wild speculation but i wonder if they pushed it back bc they had to make some piracy related last minute changes
i heard some noise the other week about how there are now flash carts for sale that get around the drm stuff by being a more effective clone. (and also a lot of concern about people selling original carts after cloning them and both accounts getting banned bc the IDs are the same)
Doubful, I think some key games just need more time. They wouldn't ruin the ideal holiday window because some people who will hack the console anyway would hack it a little sooner.
Switch anti-piracy has been pretty good at its job. We just now have a somewhat working flashcart, although the UX is horrible still. That took a whopping 7 years. Additionally, the main reliable exploit people use for hacked switches is still fusee, so if you have a modern switch that has the hardware exploit fixed, you really don't have many options for piracy.
It's a big difference from the DS/GBA flashcart days. In terms of "hack it anyway", having someone hack it 1 year in vs 7 years in is not a trivial difference.
Sure, but you're comparing a modern switch to the launch one. The launch switch has a not completly trivial but also fairly easy exploit, so switch hacking has been doable since near Day 1 until maybe month 6-7. But that didn't stop the Switch from going on pace to be the best selling console of all time.
I imagine the number of people who would hack a switch even with a day 0 exploit would pale to those who'd buy (or try to buy; let's face it, we know the Nintendo supply constraints will hit hard again) a new console for holiday season for a loved one but may way if delayed to February/March.
since you seem to be more invested, have you heard much about the newer flashcart stuff? im not huge into console stuff so i didnt understand the nuance but the impression i got was that this newer flashcart thing is kinda scary given how nintendo dont typically handle edgecases gracefully.
apparently i can buy a legit copy of the game, clone it, keep the clone and sell you the legitimate version. now you own a legit copy of a game and have no idea it was pirated, but all of the IDs and whatnot have been copied over to the clone so if you both go online at the same time, its instantly detectable as some piracy is occuring and both accounts could be banned?
that wouldnt be just a regular "day 1 exploit" situation or even a regular piracy situation, this is a situation where youve completely voided any sort of 2nd hand market trust because genuine copies are just as radioactive as pirated ones if you're unlucky. idk how accurate any of that is, and so far im torn on if nintendo would hate or love it (something something cloud saves). also they seem like the company to 100% instaban both people and worry about the concequences if it makes enough of a PR splash
i agree its also likely that some games need to be delayed but also, i dont really see how its more likely for them to delay a holiday console release for a few games vs changing a security thing last minute before the hardware gets locked in for a few production runs.
I'm not sure about that; I suspect it's simply to do with the supply chain - in particular I would guess it is to do with the custom Nvidia chip being touted.
That said, there has been a lot of talk about how people have large catalogs of physical Switch 1 games and there might be backlash if Switch 2 is not backwards compatible with Switch 1 carts. If Nintendo wanted to dominate, they'd do two things: a) make Switch 2 backward compatible with Switch 1 carts, and b) make it as easy as Steam to publish indie games to an e-store for Switch 2.
As it stands, to publish an indie game on Switch, you either a) have to have a well known publisher backing you, or b) have your game published on another platform (PC etc.) with demonstrable download figures. A dedicated indie dev e-store would put the wind up the Steam Deck.
I always say whenever someone mentions backwards compatibility that Nintendo has been pretty consistent with it for the past 20 years. Gameboy > Gameboy Advance > DS > 3DS, and GameCube > Wii > Wii U. They know how effective it is to get people to buy it, I'd be shocked if the nexf console wasn't backwards compatible with the Switch. (Though I am curious how it will handle virtual libraries...)
As for the eshop, I feel making it as open to indie devs as Steam would be a double-edged sword. There's already a lot of games on the Switch eshop accused of being more like mobile games and cheap cash grabs, and Steam has some pretty questionable indie games since they loosened their guidelines. As frustrating as it is for devs, from a consumer standpoint I think opening the process too much would make it harder to find good games. When looking at new releases on the eshop I swear there's always at least one game with "Hentai" in the title and other obvious quick cash grabs. They'd need to make some radical changes to the UI for players to sort through all the garbage.
That aside, I agree that the delay is likely due to supply chain logistics. I remember there was speculation back when the OLED was announced that it was originally supposed to be a "Switch Pro" but they had to change plans due to chip shortages. They got to see how the PS5 fared in its first two years with a limited stock, and Nintendo is no stranger to scalpers, so I can see them wanting to make sure they have a good supply ready for the first run.
Nintendo are so anti-consumer nowadays, even compared to the DS-3DS era. They'll probably do something evil like backwards compatibility only if you pay for the highest tier of the online subscription service. Switch's online subscription currently has cloud saves, so it's possible to transfer save games between consoles. I can imagine them using a similar idea to force people into keeping their old games via a subscription.
More wild speculation, but I'm constantly wondering whether they're going to take a dual screen approach as a measure to cut piracy by making it physically impossible (or at least cumbersome) to play games off of the console.
Now might be time for a WiiU do over.
How so? The DS and 3DS have emulators and have had so for a long time.
There are, but playing them single screen require overlap with one screen on the other. For most users, stacking TVs isn't viable.
It'd likely be possible, just not widely doable.
Overlap? You just play at a weird aspect ratio.
It depends on how to set up the second screen. I'd rather my geometry look good, so my second screen lives in the bottom right corner overtop of a full screen main game.
What I'm saying is that if you make things fucky for people, they're less likely to pirate if the experience isn't as good as it could be.
I guess you could stack both screens and plays in portrait mode, but that's an awfully small piece of screen real estate.
They do but the ideal way to play their games is on the original system imo, whereas with traditional systems it really doesn't matter matter. I have a 3DS and I would never choose to play a game on Citra vs the real thing, whereas with say the GameCube it makes little difference to me.
It feels like Nintendo consoles (and consoles in general) are taking longer and longer to come out these days, is this just a product of hardware advancements slowing down as well, or is it because of the massive growth in gaming we've had over the past decade
Perhaps it's a combination of:
I always look forward to new Nintendo consoles given their track record of delivering weird and novel ways of playing games (even if they're not always successful), but I'm perfectly happy now with longer gaps between 'same thing but faster' hardware generations.
Alternative non-paywalled source: https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2024/02/rumour-switch-successor-might-not-be-launching-until-2025
I don't see mention of Switch 2 in a article..
Yeah, it must be the wrong article. The alternate link includes actual information.
Hrngh, I really do need a new Switch. My current one is in really rough shape.
The Switch OLED is still a great system!
Someone should come up with a term for this, but you know when you don't want to upgrade because the next big thing is right around the corner and so you end up never upgrading?
Yeah, that
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FYI, Tildes is a Canadian non-profit, and Canada has stricter copyright laws than the US in many regards, particularly when it comes to circumvention of "Technological Protection Measures (TPM)", which paywalls count as. So the general policy here has always been to replace archive/mirror link topics with a link to their original source, unless that source no longer exists. So in future, please just submit the original source to save those of us with link editing permissions the trouble of having to change the link.
p.s. You can provide an archive/mirror link in the comments, but just be warned that if you're Canadian that could potentially open you up to legal liability. And there have been several cases of individuals and businesses being successfully sued for providing others the means to circumvent TPMs, paywalled articles included.
Thank you, I'll make sure to make sure to do some digging for a legit source the next time!
Difficult to say. I suspect it's unlikely since there are some protections provided to Canadian platforms that allow user comments. And I can't find any cases of platforms being sued for TPM violations in user comments. IANAL though, so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.