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Super Mario Galaxy 1 and 2 getting rerelease on Nintendo Switch, bundle for $70 or standalone for $40 each

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  1. Venko
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    In typical Switch tax fashion Nintendo have doubled the price on these games. These are part of the Nintendo Selects programme so they retailed for $20 US each.

    In typical Switch tax fashion Nintendo have doubled the price on these games. These are part of the Nintendo Selects programme so they retailed for $20 US each.

    12 votes
  2. chili-man
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    Annoying that this isn't just 3D All Stars DLC, but at least Galaxy 2 gets a re-release after so long, it's a great game.

    Annoying that this isn't just 3D All Stars DLC, but at least Galaxy 2 gets a re-release after so long, it's a great game.

    11 votes
  3. [23]
    stu2b50
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    Galaxy 2 finally getting another release. Price not bad either, will definitely pick up at least Galaxy 2, or maybe the combo back.

    Galaxy 2 finally getting another release. Price not bad either, will definitely pick up at least Galaxy 2, or maybe the combo back.

    7 votes
    1. [22]
      Thales
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      It's US$40 for a Wii game...

      Price not bad either

      It's US$40 for a Wii game...

      11 votes
      1. [8]
        stu2b50
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        It’s a good game and it’s not really available elsewhere. The original platform doesn’t change that.

        It’s a good game and it’s not really available elsewhere. The original platform doesn’t change that.

        11 votes
        1. [3]
          redwall_hp
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          I should hope a video game that took hundreds of people years to make costs more than fast food for a couple of people... This bargain bin mentality isn't helping the low salaries in the industry...

          I should hope a video game that took hundreds of people years to make costs more than fast food for a couple of people...

          This bargain bin mentality isn't helping the low salaries in the industry or the sustainability of games as singular products instead of as ongoing services, since it kills the long tail revenue.

          10 votes
          1. stu2b50
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            Well, I wouldn’t go that far. Everyone can value products as they like. I just think that there’s a weird tendency for people to project their own preferences as some kind of global standard or...

            Well, I wouldn’t go that far. Everyone can value products as they like. I just think that there’s a weird tendency for people to project their own preferences as some kind of global standard or even as a moral imperative when it comes to games, which is extra bizarre since it’s about as unnecessary a good as you can get.

            If you don’t want to spend $X on Y game that’s fine. It’s just a bit odd to then go “how DARE you personally value Mario Oddysey over $70, you are an ENEMY of humanity and will BURN in HELL for betraying Gamers”. Exaggerated, of course, but on Reddit it really feels like you’re killing someone’s puppy by buying video games they don’t like.

            Dawg, I like Mario Oddysey, not that complicated.

            9 votes
          2. Akir
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            I feel this is a somewhat disingenuous arguement to make. Those “hundreds of people” were paid for their time at the time of the game’s development. Some of their artists might have even got...

            I feel this is a somewhat disingenuous arguement to make. Those “hundreds of people” were paid for their time at the time of the game’s development. Some of their artists might have even got residual payments in the time since. This also wasn’t a small indie drop in the ocean, it was a major release by one of the largest companies in the world who made well over its development costs. Furthermore Nintendo famously refrains from lowering their prices until years have passed, and resale values stay high long after release.

            Granted, this is a new version with many improvements applied, so many people will need to have been paid for their work on this port. Whether $40 is a fair price for that is debatable. Given that this is practically guaranteed to sell well, I’m leaning towards it being too expensive. But this is coming from someone who doesn’t have the expendable income to afford it and doesn’t have enough time to play it even if I could.

            4 votes
        2. [4]
          caliper
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          Second hand Wiis are easily found. Picking one up is a great way to play Wii and GameCube classics.

          not really available elsewhere

          Second hand Wiis are easily found. Picking one up is a great way to play Wii and GameCube classics.

          3 votes
          1. [3]
            stu2b50
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            There’s a lot of reasons not to. For one, although not expensive, a used Wii cost more than the $70 for the bundle. Secondly, it’s a matter of space. Every input to my TV is taken and it’s...

            There’s a lot of reasons not to. For one, although not expensive, a used Wii cost more than the $70 for the bundle. Secondly, it’s a matter of space. Every input to my TV is taken and it’s extremely annoying to switch them around. I also just don’t really want to put more shit there.

            Same with controllers. I don’t want to have a wii controller littering the room. Being able to use the switch pro controller is a real benefit.

            Third, this is rendering at a much higher native resolution, and is enhanced in general. It’ll look a lot better than up scaling the Wii’s ancient video output (which needs an hdmi converter anyway).

            Fourth, portability. The switch is a portable console. The Wii isn’t.

            5 votes
            1. Sodliddesu
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              Now, I realize I'm being disengenuous but someone has made a Wii the size of a keychain, so I'd say it's a portable console.

              Now, I realize I'm being disengenuous but someone has made a Wii the size of a keychain, so I'd say it's a portable console.

              1 vote
            2. crissequeira
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              Spitting facts my brother. This is why I'm hoping against hope that they'll release the Gamecube Animal Crossing on the NSO someday. I'll immediately fork over whatever money I'll have to pay for...

              Spitting facts my brother. This is why I'm hoping against hope that they'll release the Gamecube Animal Crossing on the NSO someday. I'll immediately fork over whatever money I'll have to pay for the subscription.

      2. [2]
        joshbuddy
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        But it sounds like they put a bit of work into this release to make it look nice on modern TVs. And I guess I am a sucker for this game, kind of my favorite Mario.

        But it sounds like they put a bit of work into this release to make it look nice on modern TVs. And I guess I am a sucker for this game, kind of my favorite Mario.

        7 votes
      3. CannibalisticApple
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        I mean, given that new games typically cost $60, and most first-party Nintendo titles go on sale for $40 (at least on the eshop), I'd say it is a pretty good price by their standards.

        I mean, given that new games typically cost $60, and most first-party Nintendo titles go on sale for $40 (at least on the eshop), I'd say it is a pretty good price by their standards.

        6 votes
      4. Nivlak
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        This is the power of Nintendo IP. They know what they’re doing. Even if it’s whack.

        This is the power of Nintendo IP. They know what they’re doing. Even if it’s whack.

        3 votes
      5. [9]
        caliper
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        This is what I don’t understand. You can pick up a Wii, hook up an external drive and soft mod it. You’ll get to play all the great Wii games for next to nothing and sell the setup when you’re...

        This is what I don’t understand. You can pick up a Wii, hook up an external drive and soft mod it. You’ll get to play all the great Wii games for next to nothing and sell the setup when you’re done. I hate this rerelease, low effort approach that is especially prevalent with recent consoles.

        3 votes
        1. [7]
          Minori
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          But will it output to my TV in 4k? Setting up old consoles isn't always cheap.

          But will it output to my TV in 4k? Setting up old consoles isn't always cheap.

          3 votes
          1. [6]
            caliper
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            It certainly won’t do 4K. Does your TV have component or composite inputs? Otherwise there are plenty of HDMI converter options, and even a hard mod to add HDMI to the Wii itself. Other option...

            It certainly won’t do 4K. Does your TV have component or composite inputs? Otherwise there are plenty of HDMI converter options, and even a hard mod to add HDMI to the Wii itself. Other option would be to pick up a second hand 1080p TV, which are dime a dozen and practically free.

            1. [3]
              CannibalisticApple
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              So... To reiterate: you're proposing people should buy a used Wii, which can be anywhere from $20 to $120 based on a quick search (and some of those cheaper options seem to be JUST the console, no...
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              So... To reiterate: you're proposing people should buy a used Wii, which can be anywhere from $20 to $120 based on a quick search (and some of those cheaper options seem to be JUST the console, no cables or controllers), potentially without a solid guarantee it works. And then buy an additional external drive if you don't have one, and spend time modding the console to get access to the game and other games that may or may not also be appealing.

              Then, if they lack a TV that has compatible inputs, either buy an HDMI converter or buy a used TV. Which may not be common in a person's area and would require traveling a notable distance or else having to ship it, and which can also have wildly varying prices. And also, again, there is limited guarantee that it will work, meaning you'd have to do a bit of extra research to guarantee you don't get a brick. This is also assuming the person has space for an entire extra TV, even a smaller one.

              Or... People can just pay $40 for the one game they know they want for a console they presumably already own, and which also has a higher resolution than the original.

              Your proposal is good for more hardcore gamers, but I think the majority of people would just go for the Switch remaster. It's likely to be the cheaper and easier option overall, you can buy it and know it will work with no extra setup or accessories. Buying an entire console to get a single game that's available on other platforms is just overkill. I wouldn't recommend it unless people can identify multiple specific games they'd want to play, and also have time to play them. Otherwise it may end up just collecting dust and ultimately feel like a wasted purchase. I've had that regret before.

              Ultimately people pay for the most convenient option, and I see no shame in that.

              10 votes
              1. Prodiggles
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                I mean, reading this you've got me a bit hyped to try and mod my Wii U now to accomplish this. Although, I've already got a modded switch and should try to get this running there, the more I read...

                I mean, reading this you've got me a bit hyped to try and mod my Wii U now to accomplish this.

                Although, I've already got a modded switch and should try to get this running there, the more I read your post the more I felt like this is exactly the route to play Galaxy 2... although it's probably more my obsession with trying to get things running than actually playing the game, oof

                2 votes
            2. [2]
              J-Chiptunator
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              I feel like it's important to note that even the older flat panel TVs aren't great at processing retro video game video inputs. If your game can output at least 480p through component cable, you...

              I feel like it's important to note that even the older flat panel TVs aren't great at processing retro video game video inputs. If your game can output at least 480p through component cable, you can get away with just a supported TV and avoid display lag.

              240p/480i, on the other hand, is where it gets messy. These TVs, alongside with cheap AV2HDMI converters, introduce a significant degree of display lag that can make controlling anything feels more sluggish, if not outright unplayable. These devices also incorrectly treat 240p as interlaced content, and adds even more visual artifacts after deinterlacing a non-interlaced video.

              For those reasons, I would recommend not cheaping out on a retro video game upscaler when you can. Even the $99 USD RetroTINK Mini linedoubles the input for a decent 480p video outputted via HDMI, all while adding less than a frame of display lag.

              3 votes
              1. caliper
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                Good thing the Wii does 480p, so that shouldn’t be a problem then.

                Good thing the Wii does 480p, so that shouldn’t be a problem then.

                1 vote
        2. crissequeira
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          Why am I required to want that though? I have one Nintendo Switch 2. I don't have any of my old Wii, its peripherals and games anymore, nor do I want to go spend the time and money getting the...

          Why am I required to want that though? I have one Nintendo Switch 2. I don't have any of my old Wii, its peripherals and games anymore, nor do I want to go spend the time and money getting the hardware (second hand at that), finding space in my cramped apartment, downloading ROMS, and setting up all the software.

          This, however, is exactly what I want: an upgraded re-release on the console that I currently own, that I can just buy on the eShop and play right away. I'll gladly pay for that experience, and accept being looked down upon by the elitists, in order to have this convenience.

          2 votes