If they think I'm gonna buy Playstation to play some game, they are wrong. And by not bringing their games on PC they won't even get my money for the games themselves. I'm glad, they did at least...
If they think I'm gonna buy Playstation to play some game, they are wrong. And by not bringing their games on PC they won't even get my money for the games themselves.
I'm glad, they did at least some games! Both Horizons were great and I imagine others loved God of War or Last of Us.
They don’t think they’re going to convince you, presumably a fairly entrenched PC player, into getting a new console. They’re trying to convince the guy with a really old 2012 PC or a PS4 who’s...
They don’t think they’re going to convince you, presumably a fairly entrenched PC player, into getting a new console.
They’re trying to convince the guy with a really old 2012 PC or a PS4 who’s been hanging on but is looking to upgrade to get a PS5 instead of a PC.
Convincing that guy is way more valuable than getting a PC player to buy Ghosts of Yotei once. Sony is going to make 30% of every game that guy buys.
Hey, I'm the guy with 2012 PC :-D And on top of that, I also own PS1, PS2, PS3, PSP and PS Vita. And I like Dualshocks more than Xbox controllers and I advocate for them when I can. But Sony lost...
Hey, I'm the guy with 2012 PC :-D
And on top of that, I also own PS1, PS2, PS3, PSP and PS Vita. And I like Dualshocks more than Xbox controllers and I advocate for them when I can.
But Sony lost me at backwards compatibility, the lack of, to be precise. PS3 couldn't play PS2 games (only one specific skew could), PS4 couldn't play PS3 games (to my knowledge), thus I didn't bother buying one. And I won't buy PS5 because I can play quite a few great new games on my 2012 PC (with GTX1650), ie. Cyberpunk. And I switched to handheld gaming via PSP and others up to today's Steam Deck on which I finoshed both Horizons (Sony games).
I understand that porting the game is another cost on top of already probably very high budget. And that costay not evenend up paying for itself. They wpuldn't shut it down if they were getting a lot of money from that (probably).
Still - many people would buy and play the games on PC. And I think most of those people won't buy PS5 to play them, they'd rather pass or wait for second hand console (which doesn't make Sony any money).
Seems kind of ironic to jump off at the PS4 -> PS5 transition, considering that's the one with backwards compatibility. Each individual release is almost certainly profitable, but the issue is the...
But Sony lost me at backwards compatibility, the lack of, to be precise.
Seems kind of ironic to jump off at the PS4 -> PS5 transition, considering that's the one with backwards compatibility.
I understand that porting the game is another cost on top of already probably very high budget. And that costay not evenend up paying for itself. They wpuldn't shut it down if they were getting a lot of money from that (probably).
Each individual release is almost certainly profitable, but the issue is the damage to the PS ecosystem. It's very profitable to be the owner of an ecosystem - you get 30% of EVERY digital sale of every game sold on the playstation store.
The more reasons there are to buy a PS5, the more people with a PS5, the more likely other people buy a PS5 (because, multiplayer). It's a highly lucrative and also recursive process.
Sony tested out how much the extra revenue from releasing the games on PC weighed against the damage to the PS ecosystem. Given their decision, it seems we know which is higher.
Agreed. I understand why they are doing this but it won't cause me to purchase a PlayStation. I'm glad I got to enjoy Returnal at least. Fantastic game that I would have never been able to enjoy...
Agreed. I understand why they are doing this but it won't cause me to purchase a PlayStation. I'm glad I got to enjoy Returnal at least. Fantastic game that I would have never been able to enjoy as I don't plan to buy a PS5. Time wins out. I'll be surprised if Sony isn't back to putting out games on PC in 5 years.
Makes sense when their competition is non-existent. They're going to monopolize their IPs on their own system. Not good for the consumer, especially so since their refund policy is ass.
Makes sense when their competition is non-existent. They're going to monopolize their IPs on their own system. Not good for the consumer, especially so since their refund policy is ass.
I suspect it has more to do with the fact that gaming PC's are about to become extinct with RAM prices becoming what they are. Consoles might be the ONLY way you get to game in the near future if...
I suspect it has more to do with the fact that gaming PC's are about to become extinct with RAM prices becoming what they are. Consoles might be the ONLY way you get to game in the near future if the AI bubble doesn't pop or fab production jumps through the roof.
Existing computers won't just pop out of existence? The potential market of people who play on PC remains huge, and it's not like consoles don't use RAM. They will jump in price just as all other...
Existing computers won't just pop out of existence? The potential market of people who play on PC remains huge, and it's not like consoles don't use RAM. They will jump in price just as all other hardware does.
RAM may not be available to consumers in the next 3 years. If that actually happens (low odds but on the table), the only way to get ANY gaming device could become consoles because the fabs aren't...
RAM may not be available to consumers in the next 3 years. If that actually happens (low odds but on the table), the only way to get ANY gaming device could become consoles because the fabs aren't selling to consumers.
This stuff will hit consumer hardware in more ways than just the sticks of RAM. It's likely we'll see price increases for the PlayStation too if things continue to rise. They're also subject to...
This stuff will hit consumer hardware in more ways than just the sticks of RAM. It's likely we'll see price increases for the PlayStation too if things continue to rise. They're also subject to these price fluctuations. In fact, Steam even mentioned something to that effect about their new GabeCube.
Home built PCs are going to be more expensive, but so will the consoles.
Extinct? Looking at the top 10 most played games on Steam, the majority require only 8 gigs of ram, with two wanting 12 and the single highest asking for 16. Even at current prices, 8 gigs of ram...
Extinct? Looking at the top 10 most played games on Steam, the majority require only 8 gigs of ram, with two wanting 12 and the single highest asking for 16. Even at current prices, 8 gigs of ram is 80 bucks. That's not an extinction level event.
Most of those games weren't developed and tested on computers with 8 gigs of ram. Their assets weren't made on computers with 8 gigs of ram. The development costs are going to go through the roof...
Most of those games weren't developed and tested on computers with 8 gigs of ram. Their assets weren't made on computers with 8 gigs of ram. The development costs are going to go through the roof if things stay on track, and yes as development continues there will be a real question of what IS a reasonable spec, and it's very possible 8 gigs ALSO winds up becoming unaffordable as fabs are dedicating more and more production to industry not consumer.
Not surprised, but still disappointed. As a PC gamer I would love to disagree, but I can’t. I think they’re right. I think that as long they provide a box that plays games, they’ll always have an...
Not surprised, but still disappointed.
A faction within PlayStation has also expressed concern that releasing their games on PC risks damaging the console’s brand and will hurt sales of the PlayStation 5 and its successors, according to the people familiar with Sony’s inner workings.
As a PC gamer I would love to disagree, but I can’t. I think they’re right.
I think that as long they provide a box that plays games, they’ll always have an audience. PC gaming is more convenient than ever, but it will never be as convenient as just going to a store, pick up a console that you know that will run any game that is advertised for it. No need to think, pick or choose. Just buy the box that plays the game.
But if we put that “casual” audience to the side, you have the audience that either doesn’t mind or prefers PC. For this group of people, I don’t believe that most would buy a PS5 if the game that they want already exists for PC. But I can see many buying the console just to play the exclusives. I should know, I was once like that.
All of this said, I would love to play Ghost of Yotei, but I don’t really want to get back into the practice of buying consoles because of the exclusives. I’ll play it if someday they backtrack or an emulator pops up
Another snag with just buying the box that plays the games is the likelihood that future boxes are going to be eye-wateringly expensive if they keep up the hardware arms race, thanks to the...
Another snag with just buying the box that plays the games is the likelihood that future boxes are going to be eye-wateringly expensive if they keep up the hardware arms race, thanks to the outrageous cost of RAM, storage, and GPU chips.
I think this may be a bigger selling point than people think right now. I remember several major releases in the last few years had great reviews for consoles, but PC gaming was very hit or miss...
PC gaming is more convenient than ever, but it will never be as convenient as just going to a store, pick up a console that you know that will run any game that is advertised for it.
I think this may be a bigger selling point than people think right now. I remember several major releases in the last few years had great reviews for consoles, but PC gaming was very hit or miss due to the games being nearly unplayable for many people, even with high end gaming PCs. Part of it is how PC specs can vary so wildly so they can't test for every configuration, while consoles have hard-defined limits that the developers can actively work around. This is doubly true for games initially developed for consoles, as they'll be starting with a fairly high performance and have to find ways to optimize it to run on more PCs. Even with simultaneous releases, I feel like optimization for PC versions just isn't seen as big of a priority.
And with the expected upcoming shortage of RAM, it actually very well may be easier to buy a console and know the games for it will work, rather than struggle to find upgrades for gaming PCs and/or hope your current build is good enough for whatever game you're anticipating. It's a one-time purchase that can last for years of fairly consistent quality in performance.
Not having Saros on PC hurts. I loved Returnal and was hoping that the spiritual successor would come to PC at some point (maybe not day and date but still) I guess I’ll just have to run it on an...
Not having Saros on PC hurts. I loved Returnal and was hoping that the spiritual successor would come to PC at some point (maybe not day and date but still)
I guess I’ll just have to run it on an emulator in 10 years
Glad I got the Kingdom Hearts games while I could (ok except that newer rhythm one I don't care about). That was one of the most expensive gaming purchases I've made too. Guess I'll be bailing...
Glad I got the Kingdom Hearts games while I could (ok except that newer rhythm one I don't care about). That was one of the most expensive gaming purchases I've made too. Guess I'll be bailing from the franchise. Apparently there's an emerging "hearts like" genre if this one YT dev making one is to be believed.
If they think I'm gonna buy Playstation to play some game, they are wrong. And by not bringing their games on PC they won't even get my money for the games themselves.
I'm glad, they did at least some games! Both Horizons were great and I imagine others loved God of War or Last of Us.
They don’t think they’re going to convince you, presumably a fairly entrenched PC player, into getting a new console.
They’re trying to convince the guy with a really old 2012 PC or a PS4 who’s been hanging on but is looking to upgrade to get a PS5 instead of a PC.
Convincing that guy is way more valuable than getting a PC player to buy Ghosts of Yotei once. Sony is going to make 30% of every game that guy buys.
Hey, I'm the guy with 2012 PC :-D
And on top of that, I also own PS1, PS2, PS3, PSP and PS Vita. And I like Dualshocks more than Xbox controllers and I advocate for them when I can.
But Sony lost me at backwards compatibility, the lack of, to be precise. PS3 couldn't play PS2 games (only one specific skew could), PS4 couldn't play PS3 games (to my knowledge), thus I didn't bother buying one. And I won't buy PS5 because I can play quite a few great new games on my 2012 PC (with GTX1650), ie. Cyberpunk. And I switched to handheld gaming via PSP and others up to today's Steam Deck on which I finoshed both Horizons (Sony games).
I understand that porting the game is another cost on top of already probably very high budget. And that costay not evenend up paying for itself. They wpuldn't shut it down if they were getting a lot of money from that (probably).
Still - many people would buy and play the games on PC. And I think most of those people won't buy PS5 to play them, they'd rather pass or wait for second hand console (which doesn't make Sony any money).
Seems kind of ironic to jump off at the PS4 -> PS5 transition, considering that's the one with backwards compatibility.
Each individual release is almost certainly profitable, but the issue is the damage to the PS ecosystem. It's very profitable to be the owner of an ecosystem - you get 30% of EVERY digital sale of every game sold on the playstation store.
The more reasons there are to buy a PS5, the more people with a PS5, the more likely other people buy a PS5 (because, multiplayer). It's a highly lucrative and also recursive process.
Sony tested out how much the extra revenue from releasing the games on PC weighed against the damage to the PS ecosystem. Given their decision, it seems we know which is higher.
Agreed. I understand why they are doing this but it won't cause me to purchase a PlayStation. I'm glad I got to enjoy Returnal at least. Fantastic game that I would have never been able to enjoy as I don't plan to buy a PS5. Time wins out. I'll be surprised if Sony isn't back to putting out games on PC in 5 years.
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Makes sense when their competition is non-existent. They're going to monopolize their IPs on their own system. Not good for the consumer, especially so since their refund policy is ass.
I suspect it has more to do with the fact that gaming PC's are about to become extinct with RAM prices becoming what they are. Consoles might be the ONLY way you get to game in the near future if the AI bubble doesn't pop or fab production jumps through the roof.
Existing computers won't just pop out of existence? The potential market of people who play on PC remains huge, and it's not like consoles don't use RAM. They will jump in price just as all other hardware does.
RAM may not be available to consumers in the next 3 years. If that actually happens (low odds but on the table), the only way to get ANY gaming device could become consoles because the fabs aren't selling to consumers.
This stuff will hit consumer hardware in more ways than just the sticks of RAM. It's likely we'll see price increases for the PlayStation too if things continue to rise. They're also subject to these price fluctuations. In fact, Steam even mentioned something to that effect about their new GabeCube.
Home built PCs are going to be more expensive, but so will the consoles.
Extinct? Looking at the top 10 most played games on Steam, the majority require only 8 gigs of ram, with two wanting 12 and the single highest asking for 16. Even at current prices, 8 gigs of ram is 80 bucks. That's not an extinction level event.
Most of those games weren't developed and tested on computers with 8 gigs of ram. Their assets weren't made on computers with 8 gigs of ram. The development costs are going to go through the roof if things stay on track, and yes as development continues there will be a real question of what IS a reasonable spec, and it's very possible 8 gigs ALSO winds up becoming unaffordable as fabs are dedicating more and more production to industry not consumer.
Not surprised, but still disappointed.
As a PC gamer I would love to disagree, but I can’t. I think they’re right.
I think that as long they provide a box that plays games, they’ll always have an audience. PC gaming is more convenient than ever, but it will never be as convenient as just going to a store, pick up a console that you know that will run any game that is advertised for it. No need to think, pick or choose. Just buy the box that plays the game.
But if we put that “casual” audience to the side, you have the audience that either doesn’t mind or prefers PC. For this group of people, I don’t believe that most would buy a PS5 if the game that they want already exists for PC. But I can see many buying the console just to play the exclusives. I should know, I was once like that.
All of this said, I would love to play Ghost of Yotei, but I don’t really want to get back into the practice of buying consoles because of the exclusives. I’ll play it if someday they backtrack or an emulator pops up
Another snag with just buying the box that plays the games is the likelihood that future boxes are going to be eye-wateringly expensive if they keep up the hardware arms race, thanks to the outrageous cost of RAM, storage, and GPU chips.
I think this may be a bigger selling point than people think right now. I remember several major releases in the last few years had great reviews for consoles, but PC gaming was very hit or miss due to the games being nearly unplayable for many people, even with high end gaming PCs. Part of it is how PC specs can vary so wildly so they can't test for every configuration, while consoles have hard-defined limits that the developers can actively work around. This is doubly true for games initially developed for consoles, as they'll be starting with a fairly high performance and have to find ways to optimize it to run on more PCs. Even with simultaneous releases, I feel like optimization for PC versions just isn't seen as big of a priority.
And with the expected upcoming shortage of RAM, it actually very well may be easier to buy a console and know the games for it will work, rather than struggle to find upgrades for gaming PCs and/or hope your current build is good enough for whatever game you're anticipating. It's a one-time purchase that can last for years of fairly consistent quality in performance.
Not having Saros on PC hurts. I loved Returnal and was hoping that the spiritual successor would come to PC at some point (maybe not day and date but still)
I guess I’ll just have to run it on an emulator in 10 years
Glad I got the Kingdom Hearts games while I could (ok except that newer rhythm one I don't care about). That was one of the most expensive gaming purchases I've made too. Guess I'll be bailing from the franchise. Apparently there's an emerging "hearts like" genre if this one YT dev making one is to be believed.