Just a quick breakdown of the video (from the video description): 0:00 - intro 2:01 - defining "subcultures" 10:02 - early internet aesthetics 19:21 - death of the monoculture 22:03 - 'girl'...
Just a quick breakdown of the video (from the video description):
0:00 - intro
2:01 - defining "subcultures"
10:02 - early internet aesthetics
19:21 - death of the monoculture
22:03 - 'girl' internet
33:41 - conclusion
As is the trend with her videos, she focuses a lot on what happens in online spaces. As is also usual though, she gives a really interesting summary of the history behind the topic - in this case the history of subcultures.
You're telling me it's not a big truck? Well, maybe these days it's a series of tubes that lead to one or two big trucks full of content but that's stretching it to fit at that point.
You're telling me it's not a big truck?
Well, maybe these days it's a series of tubes that lead to one or two big trucks full of content but that's stretching it to fit at that point.
For some people that's where they spend a lot of time, but those sites are great aggregations of "trends" due to their hash-tagging integrations. I'm not really into fashion or pop-culture, but...
For some people that's where they spend a lot of time, but those sites are great aggregations of "trends" due to their hash-tagging integrations. I'm not really into fashion or pop-culture, but using those sites exposed me those topics due the content I followed overlapping with some of those trendy tags. Funnily enough, Animal Crossing design ideas share a lot of similarities with fashion trends and Instagram was where I and others were heavily exposed to those aesthetics.
Yeah wtf it’s not “girl internet” it’s literally just “normie internet”… I’m sorry this is such a low quality reddit comment but jfc that blog post is like “I am part of a special girl internet...
Yeah wtf it’s not “girl internet” it’s literally just “normie internet”…
I’m sorry this is such a low quality reddit comment but jfc that blog post is like “I am part of a special girl internet thing” and then it turns out it’s just TikTok and insta.
Out of curiosity, can I ask how you came to that conclusion? I read the same article and felt like she had some great points and shared some experiences that I have had myself. Our feeds on those...
Exemplary
Out of curiosity, can I ask how you came to that conclusion? I read the same article and felt like she had some great points and shared some experiences that I have had myself. Our feeds on those sites as women are certainly unique in their curation in comparison to what a guy might see just due to how algorithms work. It's fascinating how everyone's internet experience can be different and there's a clear genderization of of it that Mina's video and this woman's blog post touch on. She even complains about the ridiculousness of some of them in a similar vien as some of the comments on here criticizing those platforms. It makes me wonder how many actually read the post or are simply dissmissing it for various reasons.
The only reason I ask is sometimes things that are associated with women and girls are attacked more heavily than normal simply because of them being female in nature. Why is it popular to rag on girls who adore boy bands? Why was the commentary around Twilight so toxic (yes, it's a bad book, but did it's fans deserve that vitriol)? Simply put, are we being more harsh on a "normie" blog post simply because it identifies with themes that women and girls relate too? Lindsay Ellis has a great video specifically on the Twilight hate that really puts it into perspective how we are quick to view things associated with girls in a harsher view. I would recommend watching for anyone who seems out of the loop on how girl/women oriented things can be attacked so harshly.
I mean, I summed up my disappointment with the blog post here. I don’t think so, I hate to use that term but it’s one I assumed we would all understand. Frankly you can’t just decide there’s a...
the blog post is like “I am part of a special girl internet thing” and then it turns out it’s just TikTok and insta.
I mean, I summed up my disappointment with the blog post here.
Simply put, are we being more harsh on a "normie" blog post simply because it identifies with themes that women and girls relate too?
I don’t think so, I hate to use that term but it’s one I assumed we would all understand.
Frankly you can’t just decide there’s a subculture or flat out state that “girl internet is where trends are made” like it’s a special club that regular internet citizens dont know about, without some decent examples and the ones in the blog post were insta which is pretty gender equal, and TikTok which is pretty gen Z skewed.
I’m not saying the notion of a girl internet is invalid or less than in any way, quite the opposite I wanted to know about some niche area so I could learn and possibly engage with, hence my dissatisfaction that the answer was two of the most mainstream apps on the planet.
e.g. this is complete nonsense:
The Girl Internet is where all of the important things happen. It is where culture is born, where social norms are litigated, aesthetics are christened and slang terms defined.
Well, it's the same as saying BookTok or reddit communities and such. A space on the Internet that doesn't, at least on the surface, appear to slant male by default. Then that becomes the 'girl...
Well, it's the same as saying BookTok or reddit communities and such. A space on the Internet that doesn't, at least on the surface, appear to slant male by default. Then that becomes the 'girl Internet' simply because it seems to be different from the regular, male Internet.
It may just be TikTok and Instagram but that's where people are and where people are is where trends form.
fun little article. it is pretty noticable how certain types of discussion sites (like this one tbh) attracts way more of a male audience. I do wish things were more diverse in these kinds of...
fun little article.
it is pretty noticable how certain types of discussion sites (like this one tbh) attracts way more of a male audience. I do wish things were more diverse in these kinds of places because I absolutely cannot watch Instagram reels or TikTok without the physical feeling of my braincells deteriorating
Tumblr has a large percentage of female and queer users, does not tend to involve short-form videos, and is not nearly as stereotypical/cringe-worthy as it has been presented by the rest of the...
Tumblr has a large percentage of female and queer users, does not tend to involve short-form videos, and is not nearly as stereotypical/cringe-worthy as it has been presented by the rest of the internet in the past. It's not good for discussions though, otherwise I would probably spend more time there.
I assumed tildes was pretty gender neutral and certainly more welcoming or at least less off putting than most other places. How could tildes be more all-gender friendly?
I assumed tildes was pretty gender neutral and certainly more welcoming or at least less off putting than most other places.
I won't speak for all genders, but as a woman here, Tildes is the most female-friendly space I've ever found on the internet. It's not due to anything specific having to do with women, but rather...
Exemplary
I won't speak for all genders, but as a woman here, Tildes is the most female-friendly space I've ever found on the internet. It's not due to anything specific having to do with women, but rather due to the moderation policy encouraging reasonable behavior in general.
There's just something about most general discussion forums that makes them more popular with men. I'm not sure why, since I'm a woman who has always spent time in spaces that are stereotyped as being full of men, like reddit. But I'd imagine it has something to do with how women seem to appreciate and value more aesthetic/stylistic content (like instagram,) while men seem to value ...efficiency and simplicity?
Also, if a site caters to men, women will usually experience misogyny while using it. If a site caters to women (like Pinterest,) men might not be as interested in the content, but they are able to use it peacefully if they desire, without being treated poorly.
That's a good example of what I meant. On a related note, in makeup subreddits visited by majority women, men often get so many supportive comments on their makeup that some people become annoyed...
if anything I'm treated better if I ask a simple question on a 'female-centric' platform or site like Instagram reels or TikTok because I'm a novelty.
That's a good example of what I meant. On a related note, in makeup subreddits visited by majority women, men often get so many supportive comments on their makeup that some people become annoyed with it - not necessarily in a mean way, but with their argument being that the men aren't getting honest feedback on how to improve their makeup skills. And to be honest, even as someone who isn't interested in makeup, some of those guys did really need a few tips, ha. I'd much rather they receive positive comments than cruel ones though, obviously.
I’m in a similar boat — it’s hard to skim a video the same way I glance through articles. If you’re OK with using some AI assistance, I’ve found that this summarizer does a good job of making that...
I’m in a similar boat — it’s hard to skim a video the same way I glance through articles. If you’re OK with using some AI assistance, I’ve found that this summarizer does a good job of making that content accessible, in case that helps!
I love Mina! I might be an outlier in her viewership because I'm rather frivolous in investing any thought into keeping up with fashion trends or pop-culture topics. But due to my interests in...
I love Mina! I might be an outlier in her viewership because I'm rather frivolous in investing any thought into keeping up with fashion trends or pop-culture topics. But due to my interests in some things that overlap with those topics, one of those being Animal Crossing. Cottage Core was very popular in Animal Crossing communities when it came to decor and design ideas, and Instagram/Twitter were great spaces to discover new ideas. Coincidently that -core aesthetic had connections to fashion and impacted my own outfit decisions because I was a fan of the style.
Just a quick breakdown of the video (from the video description):
0:00 - intro
2:01 - defining "subcultures"
10:02 - early internet aesthetics
19:21 - death of the monoculture
22:03 - 'girl' internet
33:41 - conclusion
As is the trend with her videos, she focuses a lot on what happens in online spaces. As is also usual though, she gives a really interesting summary of the history behind the topic - in this case the history of subcultures.
I've never heard of "girl internet" before, so I'm interested. I'm not in a place where I can watch a long video, though, so I'll watch it later.
If you're interested in reading more about the idea
Author's understanding of "internet" seems to be instagram, tiktok and Twitter. Made me pretty sad.
To millions of people, that's all the Internet is.
"I don't use the internet" "But you're on Facebook" "That's not the internet"
The internet is a series of tubes.
I think of that man every time I use water pressure to explain network scaling to end users.
As someone who has tried to explain water pressure to people, I'm amazed that that tactic actually worked.
It's not something you just dump something on.
You're telling me it's not a big truck?
Well, maybe these days it's a series of tubes that lead to one or two big trucks full of content but that's stretching it to fit at that point.
For some people that's where they spend a lot of time, but those sites are great aggregations of "trends" due to their hash-tagging integrations. I'm not really into fashion or pop-culture, but using those sites exposed me those topics due the content I followed overlapping with some of those trendy tags. Funnily enough, Animal Crossing design ideas share a lot of similarities with fashion trends and Instagram was where I and others were heavily exposed to those aesthetics.
Yeah wtf it’s not “girl internet” it’s literally just “normie internet”…
I’m sorry this is such a low quality reddit comment but jfc that blog post is like “I am part of a special girl internet thing” and then it turns out it’s just TikTok and insta.
Out of curiosity, can I ask how you came to that conclusion? I read the same article and felt like she had some great points and shared some experiences that I have had myself. Our feeds on those sites as women are certainly unique in their curation in comparison to what a guy might see just due to how algorithms work. It's fascinating how everyone's internet experience can be different and there's a clear genderization of of it that Mina's video and this woman's blog post touch on. She even complains about the ridiculousness of some of them in a similar vien as some of the comments on here criticizing those platforms. It makes me wonder how many actually read the post or are simply dissmissing it for various reasons.
The only reason I ask is sometimes things that are associated with women and girls are attacked more heavily than normal simply because of them being female in nature. Why is it popular to rag on girls who adore boy bands? Why was the commentary around Twilight so toxic (yes, it's a bad book, but did it's fans deserve that vitriol)? Simply put, are we being more harsh on a "normie" blog post simply because it identifies with themes that women and girls relate too? Lindsay Ellis has a great video specifically on the Twilight hate that really puts it into perspective how we are quick to view things associated with girls in a harsher view. I would recommend watching for anyone who seems out of the loop on how girl/women oriented things can be attacked so harshly.
Edit: Added in video link
I mean, I summed up my disappointment with the blog post here.
I don’t think so, I hate to use that term but it’s one I assumed we would all understand.
Frankly you can’t just decide there’s a subculture or flat out state that “girl internet is where trends are made” like it’s a special club that regular internet citizens dont know about, without some decent examples and the ones in the blog post were insta which is pretty gender equal, and TikTok which is pretty gen Z skewed.
I’m not saying the notion of a girl internet is invalid or less than in any way, quite the opposite I wanted to know about some niche area so I could learn and possibly engage with, hence my dissatisfaction that the answer was two of the most mainstream apps on the planet.
e.g. this is complete nonsense:
Well, it's the same as saying BookTok or reddit communities and such. A space on the Internet that doesn't, at least on the surface, appear to slant male by default. Then that becomes the 'girl Internet' simply because it seems to be different from the regular, male Internet.
It may just be TikTok and Instagram but that's where people are and where people are is where trends form.
fun little article.
it is pretty noticable how certain types of discussion sites (like this one tbh) attracts way more of a male audience. I do wish things were more diverse in these kinds of places because I absolutely cannot watch Instagram reels or TikTok without the physical feeling of my braincells deteriorating
Tumblr has a large percentage of female and queer users, does not tend to involve short-form videos, and is not nearly as stereotypical/cringe-worthy as it has been presented by the rest of the internet in the past. It's not good for discussions though, otherwise I would probably spend more time there.
I assumed tildes was pretty gender neutral and certainly more welcoming or at least less off putting than most other places.
How could tildes be more all-gender friendly?
I won't speak for all genders, but as a woman here, Tildes is the most female-friendly space I've ever found on the internet. It's not due to anything specific having to do with women, but rather due to the moderation policy encouraging reasonable behavior in general.
There's just something about most general discussion forums that makes them more popular with men. I'm not sure why, since I'm a woman who has always spent time in spaces that are stereotyped as being full of men, like reddit. But I'd imagine it has something to do with how women seem to appreciate and value more aesthetic/stylistic content (like instagram,) while men seem to value ...efficiency and simplicity?
Also, if a site caters to men, women will usually experience misogyny while using it. If a site caters to women (like Pinterest,) men might not be as interested in the content, but they are able to use it peacefully if they desire, without being treated poorly.
That's a good example of what I meant. On a related note, in makeup subreddits visited by majority women, men often get so many supportive comments on their makeup that some people become annoyed with it - not necessarily in a mean way, but with their argument being that the men aren't getting honest feedback on how to improve their makeup skills. And to be honest, even as someone who isn't interested in makeup, some of those guys did really need a few tips, ha. I'd much rather they receive positive comments than cruel ones though, obviously.
This quote from the Barbie movie was very insightful for what it's like to be a woman in male dominated spaces:
Even thinking about the name "TikTok" makes me throw up in my mouth a little.
Thank you, this is beautiful
I’m in a similar boat — it’s hard to skim a video the same way I glance through articles. If you’re OK with using some AI assistance, I’ve found that this summarizer does a good job of making that content accessible, in case that helps!
I love Mina! I might be an outlier in her viewership because I'm rather frivolous in investing any thought into keeping up with fashion trends or pop-culture topics. But due to my interests in some things that overlap with those topics, one of those being Animal Crossing. Cottage Core was very popular in Animal Crossing communities when it came to decor and design ideas, and Instagram/Twitter were great spaces to discover new ideas. Coincidently that -core aesthetic had connections to fashion and impacted my own outfit decisions because I was a fan of the style.
Oh, I think they're big into that stuff on Tumblr. STRANGÆONS has some good videos on it.