I'll admit I have enough of a soft spot for Lilo and Stitch to be tempted to actually watch this one. I am a bit sad though, the watercolor animation of the original movie was beautiful, and this...
I'll admit I have enough of a soft spot for Lilo and Stitch to be tempted to actually watch this one. I am a bit sad though, the watercolor animation of the original movie was beautiful, and this is another reminder that we'll probably never see that in a major motion picture again.
If you haven't watched Arcane yet, it's got some GORGEOUS watercolor animation in season 2. not the main animation style but it has a bunch of different styles for different moods and it's all...
and this is another reminder that we'll probably never see that in a major motion picture again.
If you haven't watched Arcane yet, it's got some GORGEOUS watercolor animation in season 2. not the main animation style but it has a bunch of different styles for different moods and it's all beautifully done
What I don't get is 3D animation, especially with a lot of detail, is not cheap right? So it feels a lot like Shiny Toy Syndrome, where things are done because they have the tools now and not...
What I don't get is 3D animation, especially with a lot of detail, is not cheap right? So it feels a lot like Shiny Toy Syndrome, where things are done because they have the tools now and not because they should.. except it's not going away like it should, their toys keep getting upgrades and so they stay shiny.
IMO 3D animation should only be for creating realistic shows and cartoons have no need of that unless it's for some kind of artistic effect.
Suppose it could be worse, it could have looked like Sonic.
All animation is fairly expensive, I think. In some ways, 3D animation is also easier and faster than traditional hand-drawn animation because you don't need to draw every frame. I took an intro...
All animation is fairly expensive, I think. In some ways, 3D animation is also easier and faster than traditional hand-drawn animation because you don't need to draw every frame. I took an intro to modeling class in college, and was surprised at how quickly I could set up simple scenes for the assignments. There is no way I could have made a 10-second animation traditionally in the same amount of time I spent modeling and setting up a scene.
I know some individual details are also easier to deal with via a 3D model rather than redrawing it constantly. Things like super curly/textured hair, or spots on a ladybug. I recall that's why Miraculous Ladybug went for the 3D approach rather than 2D, and likely why Tiana never had her hair down in Princess and the Frog.
That said, I'm disappointed by the lack of traditionally animated movies these days. They have their own special charm and aesthetic that 3D animation can't capture.
Complicated mechanical things are also a good deal easier in 3D. As a side effect though, 3D mechanics don't carry quite the same wow factor. In anime for example an action scene with a 3D...
Complicated mechanical things are also a good deal easier in 3D.
As a side effect though, 3D mechanics don't carry quite the same wow factor. In anime for example an action scene with a 3D animated gundam-type mech will be technically correct with perfect angles and everything, but a 2D mech action sequence by a skilled animator is more likely to leave a strong impression despite being much more imperfect.
You don’t have to draw every frame with 3D but the skill needed to make animations look fluid and realistic and still stylized has a whole lot of extremely detailed nearly frame-by-frame tweaking...
You don’t have to draw every frame with 3D but the skill needed to make animations look fluid and realistic and still stylized has a whole lot of extremely detailed nearly frame-by-frame tweaking that has to be done by extremely skilled individuals. Facial expressions are arguably harder to be done in 3D than 2D because it’s a lot more complex than the relatively few lines that make up a face.
We just had Suzume and The Boy and the Heron last year... Animation is alive and well outside of the Hollywood bubble, and increasingly getting western theatrical releases.
We just had Suzume and The Boy and the Heron last year...
Animation is alive and well outside of the Hollywood bubble, and increasingly getting western theatrical releases.
For watercolor animation*, The Red Turtle also comes to mind. Like Lilo and Stitch, it too is mainly set on a tropical island. The animation is gorgeous. * I believe much of the animation was hand...
For watercolor animation*, The Red Turtle also comes to mind. Like Lilo and Stitch, it too is mainly set on a tropical island. The animation is gorgeous.
* I believe much of the animation was hand drawn, but on digitizing tablets instead of paper. So I'd guess the watercolor is simulated. It still looks great.
I don't think I'll add anything to the things we see happening right now. Remasters, rereleases. Just release what worked in the past because that is safe and safe guarantees views. There was...
I don't think I'll add anything to the things we see happening right now. Remasters, rereleases. Just release what worked in the past because that is safe and safe guarantees views. There was nothing wrong with the original, in fact I see it as one my favorite Disney movies of all time up there with Lion King and Aladdin.
In the trailer it feels like the voice isn't truly synced to Stitch. Low effort money grabbing imo. Skip for me :(
I just don't see how these are safe bets after nearly all of these Live Action remakes have been atrocious. People are definitely getting burned out on this bullshit, I don't see how it could be a...
I just don't see how these are safe bets after nearly all of these Live Action remakes have been atrocious.
People are definitely getting burned out on this bullshit, I don't see how it could be a safe bet
I guess financially they are, artistically and for popularity they aren't. People recognize the name and will bring their kids, it'll rake in enough to keep this cycle going.
I guess financially they are, artistically and for popularity they aren't. People recognize the name and will bring their kids, it'll rake in enough to keep this cycle going.
Patrick Willem once described CGI filled live action films as “cartoons for adults.” And even without knowing anything about this, I can’t help but feel like that’s exactly what this is. It’s a...
Patrick Willem once described CGI filled live action films as “cartoons for adults.” And even without knowing anything about this, I can’t help but feel like that’s exactly what this is. It’s a stupid remake that will, like every single remake Disney does, fails to understand why people liked the original so much and is just made because it capitalizes on nostalgia. The kids who grew up with Lelo and Stitch are adults now, so in order to be palatable to adults Disney feels the need to get rid of one of the primary appeals because they think that we wouldn’t be able to stomach the original aesthetic.
Or in another flavor of jaded thought, Disney has ruined Lilo and Stitch in animation for adults by releasing an entire cannon of dumbed down kid-only content where people are constantly yelling and there isn’t any quiet moments to be found, so live action is their last bastion to milk the audience.
Either way, the decision to make this is even more baffling than the decision to make the new sequel to the bad lion king movie. Who wants this?
I feel that the film industry desperately needs a new Roger Corman: someone who can make a lot of movies very cheaply so that not all of them needs to be a winner. It feels like everyone is saying they don’t want these ultra safe bet movies but they keep getting made anyways.
Yes, it's a remake, but what people don't understand why Disney makes these insanely easy-to-print-money films, is because they are using them to fund and develop the animation and robotics...
Yes, it's a remake, but what people don't understand why Disney makes these insanely easy-to-print-money films, is because they are using them to fund and develop the animation and robotics technology used in these films, this isn't purely a 'money-making' initiative, no one wants to really tell the same story over-and-over, but releasing projects such as this, or Lion King, allows you to release a project with minimal risk, minimal marketing budget, and a definite ROI to recoup some (they don't need all) for the technology investment.
There is a lot of groundbreaking technology used in these productions, and so they sort of solve two sides of the business requirements: money (or seeming returns) for the business, and the more important investment into tech for the future.
Edit: They're basically elaborate tech demos trying to prove their mettle and keep their budget and research project intact, like a science fair bakesale.
Do you have more info about Disney's breakthroughs? I've heard some about what Epic's doing with Unreal Engine but I don't know what other players are up to in the tech space.
Do you have more info about Disney's breakthroughs? I've heard some about what Epic's doing with Unreal Engine but I don't know what other players are up to in the tech space.
Oh my god is that a CNC pneumatic puppet?! That just made me squeal out loud like a schoolgirl. Also, god instagram is terrible. Why do they not want you to be able to rewind?
Oh my god is that a CNC pneumatic puppet?! That just made me squeal out loud like a schoolgirl.
Also, god instagram is terrible. Why do they not want you to be able to rewind?
Right? I almost didn't share the link because I wasn't sure if anyone would be able to watch it without making an account, but the only YouTube source I could find was 240p.
Right? I almost didn't share the link because I wasn't sure if anyone would be able to watch it without making an account, but the only YouTube source I could find was 240p.
I'll admit I have enough of a soft spot for Lilo and Stitch to be tempted to actually watch this one. I am a bit sad though, the watercolor animation of the original movie was beautiful, and this is another reminder that we'll probably never see that in a major motion picture again.
If you haven't watched Arcane yet, it's got some GORGEOUS watercolor animation in season 2. not the main animation style but it has a bunch of different styles for different moods and it's all beautifully done
Tbh, the main thing I'm getting from this is that I should watch Lilo and Stitch again — it is a beautiful, funny, and heartfelt film.
What I don't get is 3D animation, especially with a lot of detail, is not cheap right? So it feels a lot like Shiny Toy Syndrome, where things are done because they have the tools now and not because they should.. except it's not going away like it should, their toys keep getting upgrades and so they stay shiny.
IMO 3D animation should only be for creating realistic shows and cartoons have no need of that unless it's for some kind of artistic effect.
Suppose it could be worse, it could have looked like Sonic.
All animation is fairly expensive, I think. In some ways, 3D animation is also easier and faster than traditional hand-drawn animation because you don't need to draw every frame. I took an intro to modeling class in college, and was surprised at how quickly I could set up simple scenes for the assignments. There is no way I could have made a 10-second animation traditionally in the same amount of time I spent modeling and setting up a scene.
I know some individual details are also easier to deal with via a 3D model rather than redrawing it constantly. Things like super curly/textured hair, or spots on a ladybug. I recall that's why Miraculous Ladybug went for the 3D approach rather than 2D, and likely why Tiana never had her hair down in Princess and the Frog.
That said, I'm disappointed by the lack of traditionally animated movies these days. They have their own special charm and aesthetic that 3D animation can't capture.
Complicated mechanical things are also a good deal easier in 3D.
As a side effect though, 3D mechanics don't carry quite the same wow factor. In anime for example an action scene with a 3D animated gundam-type mech will be technically correct with perfect angles and everything, but a 2D mech action sequence by a skilled animator is more likely to leave a strong impression despite being much more imperfect.
You don’t have to draw every frame with 3D but the skill needed to make animations look fluid and realistic and still stylized has a whole lot of extremely detailed nearly frame-by-frame tweaking that has to be done by extremely skilled individuals. Facial expressions are arguably harder to be done in 3D than 2D because it’s a lot more complex than the relatively few lines that make up a face.
We just had Suzume and The Boy and the Heron last year...
Animation is alive and well outside of the Hollywood bubble, and increasingly getting western theatrical releases.
For watercolor animation*, The Red Turtle also comes to mind. Like Lilo and Stitch, it too is mainly set on a tropical island. The animation is gorgeous.
* I believe much of the animation was hand drawn, but on digitizing tablets instead of paper. So I'd guess the watercolor is simulated. It still looks great.
I don't think I'll add anything to the things we see happening right now. Remasters, rereleases. Just release what worked in the past because that is safe and safe guarantees views. There was nothing wrong with the original, in fact I see it as one my favorite Disney movies of all time up there with Lion King and Aladdin.
In the trailer it feels like the voice isn't truly synced to Stitch. Low effort money grabbing imo. Skip for me :(
I just don't see how these are safe bets after nearly all of these Live Action remakes have been atrocious.
People are definitely getting burned out on this bullshit, I don't see how it could be a safe bet
I guess financially they are, artistically and for popularity they aren't. People recognize the name and will bring their kids, it'll rake in enough to keep this cycle going.
Patrick Willem once described CGI filled live action films as “cartoons for adults.” And even without knowing anything about this, I can’t help but feel like that’s exactly what this is. It’s a stupid remake that will, like every single remake Disney does, fails to understand why people liked the original so much and is just made because it capitalizes on nostalgia. The kids who grew up with Lelo and Stitch are adults now, so in order to be palatable to adults Disney feels the need to get rid of one of the primary appeals because they think that we wouldn’t be able to stomach the original aesthetic.
Or in another flavor of jaded thought, Disney has ruined Lilo and Stitch in animation for adults by releasing an entire cannon of dumbed down kid-only content where people are constantly yelling and there isn’t any quiet moments to be found, so live action is their last bastion to milk the audience.
Either way, the decision to make this is even more baffling than the decision to make the new sequel to the bad lion king movie. Who wants this?
I feel that the film industry desperately needs a new Roger Corman: someone who can make a lot of movies very cheaply so that not all of them needs to be a winner. It feels like everyone is saying they don’t want these ultra safe bet movies but they keep getting made anyways.
Yes, it's a remake, but what people don't understand why Disney makes these insanely easy-to-print-money films, is because they are using them to fund and develop the animation and robotics technology used in these films, this isn't purely a 'money-making' initiative, no one wants to really tell the same story over-and-over, but releasing projects such as this, or Lion King, allows you to release a project with minimal risk, minimal marketing budget, and a definite ROI to recoup some (they don't need all) for the technology investment.
There is a lot of groundbreaking technology used in these productions, and so they sort of solve two sides of the business requirements: money (or seeming returns) for the business, and the more important investment into tech for the future.
Edit: They're basically elaborate tech demos trying to prove their mettle and keep their budget and research project intact, like a science fair bakesale.
Do you have more info about Disney's breakthroughs? I've heard some about what Epic's doing with Unreal Engine but I don't know what other players are up to in the tech space.
Not Disney, but check out this animatronic puppet that Swaybox Studios made. Instagram link was the best I could find, sorry.
Oh my god is that a CNC pneumatic puppet?! That just made me squeal out loud like a schoolgirl.
Also, god instagram is terrible. Why do they not want you to be able to rewind?
Right? I almost didn't share the link because I wasn't sure if anyone would be able to watch it without making an account, but the only YouTube source I could find was 240p.
I mean, that’s completely not what I asked for but it’s so impressive I don’t even mind! Thanks for the link.
Right on. The person you replied to brought up robotics so I thought that's the type of tech you were referring to.