Suggestions for updating a fitness tracker?
(US) My Fitbit Charge 2 is on her last legs. I'm torn between looking at a smart watch, a smarter fitness tracker, or something at relatively the same level. I have a Pixel and don't use the Apple ecosystem but really don't know what route to go.
Mostly I like the reminder to move, step tracking, and the simple notifications on the Charge 2. I don't need to answer my phone on my watch, I think, but seeing that it's my partner calling is a big deal. But I also could be that person desperately waiting to discover smart watches and fall in love with them, I suppose.
Longer battery life would be preferable as remembering to charge things is a less than fun side-quest. And I doubt I'd be using GPS on it. But again, maybe I would? Open to all suggestions.
I have the Garmin instinct solar to and it has been surprisingly awesome for me. I don't necessarily need all the fancy apps in the vivofit has so it's more of a G-Shock style watch with the smart notifications which I really appreciate.
You can't write texts, but you can reply with pre written Responses.
You can see who is calling and answer from your watch but, you ha e to run and find your phone if you wanna talk on it :)
It has the reminders to move and I really like gamins fitness app better than Fitbits. ( I had the Google watch for about a week.
Anyway, this thing is durable, all the tech I need and none that I don't.
Oh and It says it gets like 30 days off a charge but with GPS and using the workout modes, I realistically get a couple weeks before a charge.
I have the Instinct (non-solar) and absolutely love it. It's not a full smart watch (as you pointed out) but does everything I need and then some. I get around 2 weeks on a charge if I'm not using the GPS.
I'll also note, at the risk of sounding like a shill, Garmin customer support is incredible. I had issues with the battery on my first one after the warranty ran out and they still replaced it for me. When this one finally dies I'll get another Garmin, probably the Instinct 2.
Glad to see my watch up top. I use it since my work rewards me for being active/giving data to Richard Branson. Its battery life has been the main reason (thanks to the e ink display). Of note the text feature is Android only. I've gotten mine used for $260, and see them for around 200 now. Definitely worth considering.
Instinct 2 with the card reader seems pretty handy too.
I bought a Garmin Venu S2 on a whim second hand from ebay. I use it to track strength training (which is arbitrary anyway since nothing can accurate track strength training), walks indoor and outdoor, sleep, and stress.
It has the ability to show notifications too, but like you I didn't want EVERYTHING showing up, so I block all notifications from each app. I guess for you you could block all apps bar the phone call app, and then you'd still see incoming calls and messages.
I paid £130 for it and they're £330 brand new, and I have no complaints worth mentioning.
ETA: I also only charge it once a week, sometimes longer depending how much I track through it.
I'm liking all the Garmin positives! Thanks. That battery life is also good.
I too got fed up with Fitbit and how google is hamstringing it. Very happy with my Garmin Venu 2. The activity logger can be better, but its already better than fitbit.
Awesome thanks. Definitely going to poke through the Garmin product line and that wasn't originally on my radar.
My Fitbit charge 5 just died after less than a year and I really did not like the experience at all, even resetting the actual watch is a pain in the butt, would not recommend it.
Personally I'm waiting for the Pixel Watch 2 which hopefully would drop the original price and maybe be a bit better idk.
Same experience with my Fitbit charge 5. Also the Fitbit app has lost some of the features since it was bought out
I know I shouldn't look forward to a Pixel Watch considering it's a similar team to the Fitbit, but I do know a person that works at the team so it'll be exciting to see what they do.
I actually liked the Fitbit features a lot, I just kinda wish the design was a bit better, we'll see how it feels with an actual smartwatch
Had a charge die after 6 months and a versa after 12 months.
I was very sad about the versa too
My inspire 2 lasted just over a year, and I bit the bullet for the inspire 3 instead of just jumping to the apple watch. I'm kind of regretting it and will be upgrading to the apple watch once my Fitbit premium membership is over next year. I'm pretty disappointed in the features google chose to remove from fitbit.
From an old comment of mine:
And after almost 2 years of using it, I would still recommend the Bip U Pro, but I'm sure Amazfit has newer models by now that are probably worth looking into as an alternative to Fitbit and Apple.
p.s. Wearable's budget smart watch recommendations for 2023:
https://www.wareable.com/smartwatches/best-cheap-smartwatch-7780
And the Amazfit Bip 3 Pro is at the top, which appears to be the latest version of the one I have. They did a full review on it too, if you're interested in reading that.
Thanks, I read through it though didn't love how inaccurate some of the data looked like it was in the review. I do have to give this Charge 2 credit for lifespan, it's at least 5 years old and still kicking.
But the price is very good. I'll keep it in mind for sure.
I have a Garmin Vivomove which I really like. It was about the same as my previous Fitbit, but has similar features plus some extra ones. What I especially like is that it looks like a normal watch, and still functions as one when I inevitably forget to charge it. Luckily the battery lasts several days, so this doesn’t happen often but when it does I’m glad I can still tell the time!
Having said that, I’m more into running than I was when I bought it, and now I’m considering upgrading to a forerunner. It doesn’t function as a watch when I run out of battery, but it has a few run-specific functions and access to the coaching program.
I used to have an Apple Watch but found it not worth the price. I’m not particularly interested in having phone calls and messages come through (I turned all those features off my Garmin) so the price wasn’t worth it for me
I have the forerunner and love it, I mostly lift weights but the activity tracking is great and the reporting they provide really helps me keep track of each workout. The data is also exportable for anyone who likes to pull their own insights.
Can it track reps somehow? That would be cool.
Yup reps/sets weights and exercise. You can also adjust the info during or after the fact, if it didn't record the information correctly. I would usually do this anyways so it's been great having it done for me.
Wow, that's impressive. Follow up question, can you enter your own program? I am doing a highly modified version of the GZC JnT 2.0 third mesocycle on repeat, so would use it for that.
Thanks a bunch, I'll look into it.
Notifications telling me who is calling or messaging let me know if I need to take my phone out in a meeting (partner w/ medical needs or my boss for example) or let it lie. But yeah actually talking through my watch is less appealing.
When I was looking to replace my Fitbit I was specifically looking for a watch with no notifications from the phone, and I found it very hard to find one so that aspect of your wish list shouldn’t be a problem!
I have a Vivoactive 5. I've had a Vivoactive 5 for just over two years. The battery lasts 4-5 days depending on how much I track activities. I'm very happy with it but not wild about the price. That being said, the watch is fully readable in full sun, has customizable watch faces and functions as a better watch, not a worse smart phone. It's been a few years since I last looked into the smart watch market, but the Garmin has my approval.
Highly recommend Garmin. I have a Venu 2 and love it. I usually get between 9 and 11 days of battery life.
While I have opinions, most of them are already expressed by other users here already so I won't repeat them.
I will however recommend checking out dcrainmaker who writes fantastic reviews about pretty much all fitness related trackers. I'm pretty sure it's basically illegal for his site not to be linked in a discussion like this.
Thanks for the link!
I still rock my Xiaomi Band 4, but will probably be switching to the Apple Watch mostly due to the consistency and accuracy of the measurements as reported by The Quantified Scientist.
Fair, there's no world that has me switching to Apple products at this point. I'm in too deep in Google's clutches
That’s actually the partially the reason why I borrowed my sister’s old iPhone 11 and switched away from using most Google products. You know, separate the eggs between different baskets.
I have been keeping an eye on the Garmin line of products as well though, e.g. the Venu 2.
Nah I understand that but I use an iPhone for work and have found my loathing (ok it's distaste) that began with trying to use iTunes with limewire/bearshare has remained intact.
Garmin has been getting a lot of positive feedback here too so it's high on my list.
Seeing a lot of recommendations for lower-end GPS activity watches, like Garmins, that I’m going to echo. I bought a Coros Apex a few years ago with the intention to just use it during runs, but the step and sleep tracking, along with notifications, are SO convenient. It just has simple notifications, only what you let notify you on your phone will show up on the watch, and no responses. It doesn’t quite have an apple-watch style reminder to move or general day to day fitness feature though, more of a purpose made GPS watch that has some of that stuff baked in. I will say, if you do run/hike/bike/ski/etc, its amazing for tracking those things as well.
Excellent, thank you!
I purchased a Garmin Fenix 6 after Amazon killed the Halo band I had. Really happy with it, but don't feel like I even know half of what it can do
Different device to everyone else so far, but I went from a Fitbit Versa to a Withings Scanwatch.
I found that I only really wanted 'basic' health tracking and a means of notification screening. Beyond that, I ended up going down the rabbit hole of hybrid style smartwatches that had an analog watch face with the ability to display the extra information that I wanted.
Had it about half a year so far so can't really say how it'll go long term (1-2yrs+) but so far it's done what I've wanted without the need for daily battery charging.
This is probably not exactly what you're looking for, but up until 2015 or so, I used to love walking and the zen/meditative aspect of getting out, seeing and experiencing things, and doing it because I enjoyed it.
Then I got a Fitbit band in 2015, followed by a Jawbone, then my first Apple watch (series 3) and lastly an Apple Watch SE with cellular, to use as my main driver and replace my phone. With the experience of these fitness trackers combined, it changed everything, and not how I wanted...
It went from walking because it was nice weather or I was in the mood, or just craved getting out and clearing my head, to feeling the need to make my fitness device's rings full. Then it became a chore. I know this is NOT how most people experience it, but it was just very strange how I went from a regular, long distance walker, to almost not walking at all. I ended up giving my Apple Watch to my wife and now just use a Casio and I'm training myself to just walk for walk's sake, because I want to and for the healthy joy of doing so.
Just curious, but has anybody else experienced this?
Maintenance Phase (podcast) talked about how people's enjoyment goes down when they focus in filling their circles or hitting their 10k or whatever. (also that the 10k number was fully made up!)
For me, I have it set to 5k, so truly just base amount of movement. I hit it on all but the truly laziest weekend days. It reminds me to get up if I haven't been at work, it notifies me of phone calls, and it helps me keep an eye on my heart rate and stress. I love to go on long walks but my current personal life - and the outdoor temp - gets in the way. But it's not about the step count and I don't do the competitions or anything.
I hate that 10K number! It's so stupidly arbitrary and obnoxious! I had mine at 8K for a while, but I think I need to dial it down to like 3K until my medical nonsense clears up.
I think I am too disabled to care about filling my rings haha.
Yeah make it work for you! The reminders to get some movement once an hour really help me.
And if it isn't serving you then do something different.
Between caring for my partner and my own chronic issues, I just don't have the energy I used to for walks. I want to get back to it, but I don't need the watch to challenge me into it.
I'm hoping to change things up by lifting weights instead for a bit too. Should help with the caretaking
I have a Fitbit Charge 5 which I purchased for £80. Well worth it at that price, I think. Perhaps like you, the more advanced features on other trackers aren't suited to my use case, so I don't feel motivated to upgrade. The sleep tracking and excellent (~1 week) battery life are fab too. YMMV though - I've heard from others (and on this thread too) that the quality control on the Fitbit Charge 5 can sometimes be a miss.
Thanks, I definitely am wary after the reviews here but it would have been my instinctual upgrade.
It would appear to be a no-cloud alternative to connect to a number of devices without sending your data to a 3rd party at all https://gadgetbridge.org/, it's quite intriguing and I'm going to be looking into it for my Amazfit GTR2 now
I think this ended up under the wrong sub thread but thanks!
Thanks, I'm not familiar with Gadgetbridge, can I ask what that is?
Everyone's comments on their devices have been so interesting that I thought I'd add mine, even if it looks like @DefinitelyNotAFae has already got their answer.
I've been using the Whoop strap for about three months now. I chose it over smart watches and rings because I can wear it higher up on my arm. I wanted something that I can wear 24/7, but I don't really like to wear things on my wrists or fingers, I don't want notifications, and as I understand it, heart rate reading are also somewhat more accurate from the bicep.
My Whoop agrees with my Polar H10 chest strap pretty well, so the heart rate readings seem quite accurate. Its sleep tracking also feels pretty accurate, although I haven't been able to compare it with any other devices. In addition to tracking my vitals and activities, its fitness coach features tell me each day what level of exercise strain I should aim for, and what time to go to bed to recover optimally. Battery life is about 4-5 days, and you don't need to take the device off while charging (you basically charge a modular charger and then attach that to your Whoop). Most of the time I forget that I'm wearing it, which is nice. They have also recently added a strength trainer feature that tries to calculate your muscular strain based on the reps that you do, in addition to tracking your cardiovascular strain as with other exercise types. It also integrates quite nicely with Apple Health (I think also Android's equivalent), pushing and pulling data that I have given it access to.
It's not perfect, though. It's not cheap (monthly subscription, and the add-ons like the bicep strap are ridiculously expensive), it requires a phone, has no GPS of its own, and while its data seems pretty accurate to me, I'm not always sure that its interpretations of that data are spot on. As it's a device designed for athletes (which I am not), it also pretends to be above such mundane distractions as step counting. Although, based on recent customer surveys, they seem to be considering adding the feature soon. I also hear that there are sync issues with some Android devices.
Still, I've been pretty happy with the device and would probably still get it, since I really like the form factor. I'm still considering getting a sports watch to supplement it during exercise, as I would like to track things like laps and pace while swimming, have more data from jogging, and maybe a map while hiking or playing golf. And unless Whoop innovates in some unexpected way, I think in 12 months' time when my subscription ends, I will have learnt everything it can teach me, and won't be renewing.
I went from a Fitbit Charge 3 to Garmin Vivosmart 5. Overall the transition was very smooth, and the new fitness tracker for me has all it needs. No it does not have GPS independent of cell phone but my understanding is that that tends to use up battery. I turned off the Pulse Ox feature because I do not need it and it also is known to drain battery faster. That said I cannot tell you how long my battery lasts because I always top off the charge while I am under the shower and that is enough charging for it. The sleep tracking people claim is more accurate with Fitbit but I find that while it is harder to get a good sleep score with garmin but when I do get a good garmin sleep score I actually feel better whereas I thought Fitbit sometimes gave me a good sleep score when I did not feel like I had gotten good enough sleep. Step counting and calorie counting and HR are similar enough. I absolutely love the Body Battery feature in the garmin that estimates how many percent of energy I have left today, whether I can spend more energy or need to rest to recharge myself. The Garmin Vivosmart 5 is a thin band much like the Fitbit Charge, and I interact with it mostly via the app on my phone.
As the price point is missing, I just go ahead and suggest my Fossil Hybrid Machine Gen6. (200€ - mine is brown) There are multiple variants with different colors and designs available.
It doesn't have all the most shiny features of a new smart watch, but it supports the common stuff - like step counter, heart rate, o2 in blood, notifications, accepting calls and so on. Battery life is at around two weeks. It does not support sleep tracking by itself, but the official app supports it with fancy software algorithms. It also supports fitness functions and timers/stopwatch.
I don't like the designs of the common smart watches, so I really dig the hybrid approach of a normal watch with smart features.
As you're on Android, you can use it with Gadgetbridge and keep your privacy, if you're a bit tech savvy.
Price point is variable as I know there's a wide range. I don't think I need the features of an expensive one but I'm aware I could be swayed. But I like the sounds of the Fossil!
I can second Fossil! I have a Skagen Hybrid Gen6 and I love it. Battery is great as well, I have to charge it once every 3-4 weeks depending on usage.
That's amazing. I will put it on my list :)
I like The Quantified Scientist's videos for fitness tracker reviews. He does thorough testing to see how accurate their data collected is. He put out a comprehensive video a few days ago detailing which device works best for you depending on your use case: health, GPS, sleep, heart rate, etc.
I personally have a Sense 2 that I got for cheap thanks to an Amazon price mistake. I don't recommend it. I wrote a review about it on /r/fitbit.
That's very handy, thanks! I definitely don't need to stick with Fitbit, it's the daily use that matters more to me than the analysis in a lot of ways.
I had a Garmin Vivosmart 5 for a while but had some issues with it, so i contacted Garmin and traded up for a Garmin Instinct 2 (non- solar), and I absolutely love it. It's got a relatively high resolution e-reader style display that gives enough detail and base info without tipping into I'm-wearing-a-watch-on-my-wrist territory. The battery life is great, and having GPS available when I want it has been an option I've really come to enjoy when I want to do an activity while traveling "light." It's also durable and has relatively low-key styling. The additional health details and training options it comes with are solid, too, and have gotten me moving a lot more.
Not sure if it's in your price range or if it's your style, but it's got my backing for sure.
Thanks! And thanks for mentioning style. I haven't really looked at style yet but I do notice a lot of these feel very "men's sportswatch" and yeah I'm probably looking for something... Smaller? Not necessarily femme but less masc I guess? Being able to change up bands can help too.
That'll help me narrow things down at least. Appreciate it!
Based on the research I did before getting either of my trackers, I would say that the biggest step in sizes will likely be when going between GPS-capable versus non-GPS trackers. I saw it in other brands before eventually honing in on Garmin, and with the Garmin product line there was a definite minimum size increase associated with having GPS built into the tracker versus tethering to a smartphone for it. Between the added electronics and battery capacity required it only makes sense. I did also want a smaller form factor for the watch when I first started looking, but personally the brief adjustment period I had to make when I first started wearing it was worth the benefit of having the standalone GPS option for me.
One other thing I would mention explicitly is that once you are looking above a certain screen resolution for a tracker, the display on the watch is changeable, so don't put too much weight on whatever graphics they show on the face of the watch. It feels obvious to type it out, but it's easy to have the swoopy display graphics feel important when they're really not. There's a whole app marketplace through Garmin to go and download watch face displays for the various data that can be shown. Like on mine, I have chosen to use the little circle area (a fixed inset display on the Instinct series) to show the phase of the moon...I don't need that for anything in my life but it looks neat.
That does make sense, I appreciate you sharing the knowledge so I didn't have to go through the same research process to get to that conclusion.
I don't care as much about the display itself, in theory, my wrist is just only so big and I'm not used to a more traditional sport watch sized piece on it. However, I got used to the Fitbit as a non-watch wearer so I'm sure this is gonna be an adjustment too
I have a pixel watch, runs Fitbit software, works great.
How's the battery life? That's been my one concern with a smart watch. I could live with or without the features but my ADHD brain doesn't do well at daily charging for anything but the phone.
Lasts 2-3 days. I just keep the charger on my nightstand and charge when I sleep. It does wonders for my ADD
I will have to keep an eye out as I look to do a longer term upgrade in the future. Thank you
As an update, due to trying to cut back on costs (while running a fundraiser to pay for a wheelchair van) I have temporarily bought a Charge 2 Refurb for like 30 bucks on eBay.
However, thanks for all the amazing feedback. I'm leaning hard towards the Garmin Lily based on the great Garmin recommendations and wanting something smaller than a traditional/masc sportswatch. It's just going to be a slightly later purchase.
Definitely keeping the other suggestions in mind and have been reading some reviews as well. Please feel free to continue to toss out ideas especially if something is really bad or absolutely amazing.