It's hard not to feel some level of schadenfreude when someone who willingly forks money over to Elon gets unceremoniously screwed over by him.
"it's highly annoying, but Twitter is still my preferred social media," Vaught said. "That's how I communicate and learn my news about what's going on. Nothing else compares."
His only "minor protest" to X's action, he said, was to cancel his Twitter Blue subscription.
"I did turn off the Twitter Blue," Vaught said. "I don't feel like I have the need to keep paying [Elon Musk] 11 bucks a month."
It's hard not to feel some level of schadenfreude when someone who willingly forks money over to Elon gets unceremoniously screwed over by him.
Or that: The article did say that he was a Musk fanboy towards the end. So it really makes it even more difficult to empathize with him, even more along with the fact that he paid 11 dollars for a...
Or that:
Vaught is mostly a Musk fan, as he's interested in Musk's electric cars and space developments. He said that this experience with X hasn't tainted his opinion of Musk or his relationship too much with X as a platform.
The article did say that he was a Musk fanboy towards the end. So it really makes it even more difficult to empathize with him, even more along with the fact that he paid 11 dollars for a blue check mark. So, he cannot be complaining because he bought into that fucking bullshit idea in the first place.
emphasize / emphasise means to show or state that something is particularly important or worth giving attention to. empathize / empathise means to be able to understand someone else’s feelings,...
emphasize
emphasize / emphasise means to show or state that something is particularly important or worth giving attention to.
empathize / empathise means to be able to understand someone else’s feelings, problems etc, especially because you have had similar experiences.
For those who have difficulty keeping those apart, a handy little mnemonic is to go back to the nouns they derive from: Empathy and Emphasis are very clearly distinct in my mind, and their meaning...
For those who have difficulty keeping those apart, a handy little mnemonic is to go back to the nouns they derive from: Empathy and Emphasis are very clearly distinct in my mind, and their meaning is clearer to me.
An advisor advises by giving you advice. Note the different pronunciation of -ce and -se. Advise me. Give me advices. An advisor helps your vision, just as a visor can protect it. Advice helps you...
An advisor advises by giving you advice.
Note the different pronunciation of -ce and -se.
Advise me. Give me advices.
An advisor helps your vision, just as a visor can protect it.
Advice is something that can be given or received. I give you advice about usage. You are being given advice now. Advise is something you do. You advise the President. I advise you to use...
Advice is something that can be given or received. I give you advice about usage. You are being given advice now.
Advise is something you do. You advise the President. I advise you to use advice/advice correctly.
These can be used together to move from something generic to something specific. They gave me advice on how to drive. They advised me to stop at Stop signs.
I’m sure there are grammar rules around this but I was a literature major so I’ve just read a lot.
Empathy is related to -pathy (pathos), as in sociopathy, psychopathy, pathology etc. Has to do with the mind. Emphasis is related to -phasis, as in “phase” (Merriam-Webster).
Empathy is related to -pathy (pathos), as in sociopathy, psychopathy, pathology etc. Has to do with the mind.
Emphasis is related to -phasis, as in “phase” (Merriam-Webster).
I don't think someone who can't keep those two words straight will suddenly learn it from the Greek roots. Empathizing is similar to sympathizing. Emphasizing is just another form of the word...
I don't think someone who can't keep those two words straight will suddenly learn it from the Greek roots.
Empathizing is similar to sympathizing.
Emphasizing is just another form of the word emphasis.
Learning the patterns of etymology is an excellent way of both learning and groking a language. People confuse words because they don't think about them, how they differ, what tells one from the...
Learning the patterns of etymology is an excellent way of both learning and groking a language. People confuse words because they don't think about them, how they differ, what tells one from the other. In the case of parophones, people just hear a blob of "something"-sound and retain that. Breaking down the word into its roots can help understand it, understand why it's like this and thus stop confusing it.
It's like teaching your grandma how to open the Bank app on her phone, vs teaching her what an app is and how to find it. Give a man a fish, teach a man how a phone works, etc.
I agree that it is, I just don't think that those specific roots are going to help in this case. I look up and use etymologies all the time. But pathos and phasis don't really contain the secrets...
I agree that it is, I just don't think that those specific roots are going to help in this case. I look up and use etymologies all the time. But pathos and phasis don't really contain the secrets to understanding the word. Hell, you got the meaning of pathos completely wrong. It is about feeling, which is pretty much the opposite of what the mind does.
And phasis, along with "phase" don't really help you understand emphasizing...you have to realize that phasis comes from phaino, which means "I appear or bring to light."
I just think that neither etymology provides a self-evident guide to the meaning or spelling of the words.
It's almost hard to feel bad, but this person might still be in the shock phase of battered person syndrome. They personally aligned their own personality to Musk and to twitter and probably...
It's almost hard to feel bad, but this person might still be in the shock phase of battered person syndrome. They personally aligned their own personality to Musk and to twitter and probably cheered for its union. Twitter has been his entire social life and professional fame thing for much of his adult life. It's easy for abuse victims to write off the hitting as just the one time and he doesn't own anything anyways and maybe Musk is doing some great amazing thing with his handle.
Actual commandeering aside: if the old account was called @TwitterMusic, why didn't the site formerly known as Twitter instead use the handle @XMusic ? it fits the rest of this "theme" they are...
Actual commandeering aside: if the old account was called @TwitterMusic, why didn't the site formerly known as Twitter instead use the handle @XMusic ? it fits the rest of this "theme" they are going for.
Surely not because XMusic is a legitmate company and they decided to go after the small fry instead. If you're gonna spend $44b dollars to rebrand an iconic site, you may as well not compromise on the horrible vision.
Surely Lord Elon has had the idea of X Videos ever since he was a young boy independently making money from an emerald mine that, coincidentally, was owned by his father!
Surely Lord Elon has had the idea of X Videos ever since he was a young boy independently making money from an emerald mine that, coincidentally, was owned by his father!
I wish there was a way to create handles for the administrators of an online service that don't collide with user names anyone can grab, but sadly the tech wizards in San Francisco don't have the...
I wish there was a way to create handles for the administrators of an online service that don't collide with user names anyone can grab, but sadly the tech wizards in San Francisco don't have the technology yet.
Well, why feel bad for this dude? He still prefers Twitter and Musk over other social media. This dude: hey everyone and Ars Technica especially, Twitter took over my username of 26 years, help...
Well, why feel bad for this dude? He still prefers Twitter and Musk over other social media.
This dude: hey everyone and Ars Technica especially, Twitter took over my username of 26 years, help me! I still love Twitter, don't get me wrong, and nothing they do is wrong, but they took my username!
Anyone take a look at the Ars forum on that one? The discourse is usually pretty okay over there, but it's wild how "eff this random guy" the tone is. They're straight-up gloating about it. Came...
Anyone take a look at the Ars forum on that one? The discourse is usually pretty okay over there, but it's wild how "eff this random guy" the tone is. They're straight-up gloating about it. Came back here wondering if anyone would point that out, but it almost looks we've got a microcosm of the same. This is so weird to me, folks.
I have no love for musk, and his antics are just kinda boring to me at this point. What is interesting to me is seeing these somewhat aggro responses to some random guy getting screwed over. It's not like the guy went and got a tattoo, he just said, "I like electric cars and space and the thing I've been using for over a decade."
Hmm. Thanks for pointing that out. I was also one of those that commented him being a fan seemed sad. I think whatever happened to him was sad and it shouldn't have happened. So I'm not under the...
Hmm. Thanks for pointing that out. I was also one of those that commented him being a fan seemed sad.
I think whatever happened to him was sad and it shouldn't have happened. So I'm not under the "fuck this guy."
I guess I more saw it as something everyone can see is falling apart at the expense of the users. This guy who is loyal to the platform and Musk got fucked over and he's still a fan. So then you end up being "Damn. Poor guy can't leave this obviously fucked situation"
Because I guess the mismatch might be the people who can't empathise or call him sad (like me) see leaving Twitter as a very trivial thing to do. So staying for something like that is just sad. But for him, it's probably much more than that.
And there's also a sense that twitter and Musk have been very problematic for a while. So I think people are like.. It's expected that Musk will pull this shit, this is on you if you can't see it.
That does sound kind of like victim blaming doesn't it?
But I think for other people, there's probably a sense of "If you're a fan of Musk, you're either a dick or incredibly gullible" so he's the Other. So people would rather shit on him.
Not trying to absolve any of the responses. Just trying to figure out why we reacted the way we did.
I made a comment about feeling some schadenfreude. As far as trying to psychoanalyze why people feel this way, I don't think it's that deep. This is just one part of the "Leopard's Ate My Face"...
I made a comment about feeling some schadenfreude.
As far as trying to psychoanalyze why people feel this way, I don't think it's that deep. This is just one part of the "Leopard's Ate My Face" syndrome that keeps getting replayed in our society. Also worth looking at r/LeopardsAteMyFace
If the story had been, "Elon takes over page from president of Musk fanclub," yeah that'd make sense and I too would give it a chuckle. I think what's interesting is that so many people are...
If the story had been, "Elon takes over page from president of Musk fanclub," yeah that'd make sense and I too would give it a chuckle.
I think what's interesting is that so many people are interpreting the article as saying, "And he still thinks musk is just great!" It might be something of a Rorschach test, looking at the passage:
Vaught is mostly a Musk fan, as he's interested in Musk's electric cars and space developments. He said that this experience with X hasn't tainted his opinion of Musk or his relationship too much with X as a platform.
Emphases mine, and this was a comment made by the author, not by the interviewee. I could be wrong, maybe the guy has a Musk-shaped body pillow and everything, but nothing in the story made him come across to me that way. Sounded like someone who wants to keep using Twitter the way he always has been, and is in the, "don't like what I'm seeing but I'm not ready to rage quit just yet" stage. Have to imagine that there are some folks here that just went through those same thoughts leading up to the Reddit migration.
Sorry but no. If you can’t see that Musk is a huge piece of shit in 2023 then I don’t know what to tell you. This random guy deserves to get screwed over for following what is basically tech...
Sorry but no.
If you can’t see that Musk is a huge piece of shit in 2023 then I don’t know what to tell you.
This random guy deserves to get screwed over for following what is basically tech trump. And deserves 0 sympathy. I don’t know if you’ve seen The Boys but he’s giving Todd.
Fuck. Imagine looking at twitter post Musk and thinking yeah give me some of that blue tick. No, are you insane?
You shouldn’t find Musk boring you find him alarming because he’s capable and proven to want to hoover up the same kind of weak minded people who eat up everything Trump does.
Frankly he’s got pretty strong fascist outlines and this guy should not have anywhere near as much power as he has been able to grab so far.
Any more is even more alarming.
Look how he’s trashed Twitter already, where people actually had a public service for news and discourse from journalists and thought leaders.
The alternative is trash thought leadership on medium or LinkedIn and who knows where the up to the minute journalists and news reporting has gone. As crappy as most of twitter was there was real value there, that is now fubar.
Update: According to two users on HN, @sports[1] and @tv[2] are also being taken over by Elon. Also @movies was taken over recently. Looks like all the OG usernames are going to X. [1]...
Update:
According to two users on HN, @sports[1] and @tv[2] are also being taken over by Elon. Also @movies was taken over recently. Looks like all the OG usernames are going to X.
Sometimes I wonder if Musk's announcement was one of his usual elaborate shitposts which went spectacularly wrong, or if Musk intended all along to buy Twitter and burn it to the ground. I still...
Sometimes I wonder if Musk's announcement was one of his usual elaborate shitposts which went spectacularly wrong, or if Musk intended all along to buy Twitter and burn it to the ground.
I still think $44 billion is a huge asking price to drive Twitter out of existence.
I mean the guy who this article is about and is most disrupted doesn’t even care enough to stop using Twitter. His big protest was to stop giving a multi billionaire more money for.. nothing. So...
I mean the guy who this article is about and is most disrupted doesn’t even care enough to stop using Twitter. His big protest was to stop giving a multi billionaire more money for.. nothing. So Twitter lost nothing and gained more news time. This story is crazy to me.
It's hard not to feel some level of schadenfreude when someone who willingly forks money over to Elon gets unceremoniously screwed over by him.
Or that:
The article did say that he was a Musk fanboy towards the end. So it really makes it even more difficult to empathize with him, even more along with the fact that he paid 11 dollars for a blue check mark. So, he cannot be complaining because he bought into that fucking bullshit idea in the first place.
emphasize / emphasise means to show or state that something is particularly important or worth giving attention to.
empathize / empathise means to be able to understand someone else’s feelings, problems etc, especially because you have had similar experiences.
Thanks a lot for clearing that for me.
For those who have difficulty keeping those apart, a handy little mnemonic is to go back to the nouns they derive from: Empathy and Emphasis are very clearly distinct in my mind, and their meaning is clearer to me.
Can you help me witu advise vs advice? Every time I look it up I remember briefly but it doesn't stick
An advisor advises by giving you advice.
Note the different pronunciation of -ce and -se.
Advise me. Give me advices.
An advisor helps your vision, just as a visor can protect it.
Advice helps you win, get to victory.
Advice is something that can be given or received. I give you advice about usage. You are being given advice now.
Advise is something you do. You advise the President. I advise you to use advice/advice correctly.
These can be used together to move from something generic to something specific. They gave me advice on how to drive. They advised me to stop at Stop signs.
I’m sure there are grammar rules around this but I was a literature major so I’ve just read a lot.
Do you pronounce them differently? "Advise" is pronounced advize so it's definitely not going to be with a c.
Empathy is related to -pathy (pathos), as in sociopathy, psychopathy, pathology etc. Has to do with the mind.
Emphasis is related to -phasis, as in “phase” (Merriam-Webster).
I don't think someone who can't keep those two words straight will suddenly learn it from the Greek roots.
Empathizing is similar to sympathizing.
Emphasizing is just another form of the word emphasis.
Learning the patterns of etymology is an excellent way of both learning and groking a language. People confuse words because they don't think about them, how they differ, what tells one from the other. In the case of parophones, people just hear a blob of "something"-sound and retain that. Breaking down the word into its roots can help understand it, understand why it's like this and thus stop confusing it.
It's like teaching your grandma how to open the Bank app on her phone, vs teaching her what an app is and how to find it. Give a man a fish, teach a man how a phone works, etc.
I agree that it is, I just don't think that those specific roots are going to help in this case. I look up and use etymologies all the time. But pathos and phasis don't really contain the secrets to understanding the word. Hell, you got the meaning of pathos completely wrong. It is about feeling, which is pretty much the opposite of what the mind does.
And phasis, along with "phase" don't really help you understand emphasizing...you have to realize that phasis comes from phaino, which means "I appear or bring to light."
I just think that neither etymology provides a self-evident guide to the meaning or spelling of the words.
It's almost hard to feel bad, but this person might still be in the shock phase of battered person syndrome. They personally aligned their own personality to Musk and to twitter and probably cheered for its union. Twitter has been his entire social life and professional fame thing for much of his adult life. It's easy for abuse victims to write off the hitting as just the one time and he doesn't own anything anyways and maybe Musk is doing some great amazing thing with his handle.
Although I wonder if even self -progressed Musk fans are dropping their subscription, that might not be good news for the company either.
Actual commandeering aside: if the old account was called @TwitterMusic, why didn't the site formerly known as Twitter instead use the handle @XMusic ? it fits the rest of this "theme" they are going for.
Surely not because XMusic is a legitmate company and they decided to go after the small fry instead. If you're gonna spend $44b dollars to rebrand an iconic site, you may as well not compromise on the
horriblevision.Perhaps that theme would become a problem when it comes to an 'XVideos' account, given the existing usage of that particular name?
Surely Lord Elon has had the idea of X Videos ever since he was a young boy independently making money from an emerald mine that, coincidentally, was owned by his father!
I wish there was a way to create handles for the administrators of an online service that don't collide with user names anyone can grab, but sadly the tech wizards in San Francisco don't have the technology yet.
Well, why feel bad for this dude? He still prefers Twitter and Musk over other social media.
This dude: hey everyone and Ars Technica especially, Twitter took over my username of 26 years, help me! I still love Twitter, don't get me wrong, and nothing they do is wrong, but they took my username!
Get out of here, dude!
Tbf that sounds pretty sad.
Anyone take a look at the Ars forum on that one? The discourse is usually pretty okay over there, but it's wild how "eff this random guy" the tone is. They're straight-up gloating about it. Came back here wondering if anyone would point that out, but it almost looks we've got a microcosm of the same. This is so weird to me, folks.
I have no love for musk, and his antics are just kinda boring to me at this point. What is interesting to me is seeing these somewhat aggro responses to some random guy getting screwed over. It's not like the guy went and got a tattoo, he just said, "I like electric cars and space and the thing I've been using for over a decade."
Hmm. Thanks for pointing that out. I was also one of those that commented him being a fan seemed sad.
I think whatever happened to him was sad and it shouldn't have happened. So I'm not under the "fuck this guy."
I guess I more saw it as something everyone can see is falling apart at the expense of the users. This guy who is loyal to the platform and Musk got fucked over and he's still a fan. So then you end up being "Damn. Poor guy can't leave this obviously fucked situation"
Because I guess the mismatch might be the people who can't empathise or call him sad (like me) see leaving Twitter as a very trivial thing to do. So staying for something like that is just sad. But for him, it's probably much more than that.
And there's also a sense that twitter and Musk have been very problematic for a while. So I think people are like.. It's expected that Musk will pull this shit, this is on you if you can't see it.
That does sound kind of like victim blaming doesn't it?
But I think for other people, there's probably a sense of "If you're a fan of Musk, you're either a dick or incredibly gullible" so he's the Other. So people would rather shit on him.
Not trying to absolve any of the responses. Just trying to figure out why we reacted the way we did.
I made a comment about feeling some schadenfreude.
As far as trying to psychoanalyze why people feel this way, I don't think it's that deep. This is just one part of the "Leopard's Ate My Face" syndrome that keeps getting replayed in our society. Also worth looking at r/LeopardsAteMyFace
If the story had been, "Elon takes over page from president of Musk fanclub," yeah that'd make sense and I too would give it a chuckle.
I think what's interesting is that so many people are interpreting the article as saying, "And he still thinks musk is just great!" It might be something of a Rorschach test, looking at the passage:
Emphases mine, and this was a comment made by the author, not by the interviewee. I could be wrong, maybe the guy has a Musk-shaped body pillow and everything, but nothing in the story made him come across to me that way. Sounded like someone who wants to keep using Twitter the way he always has been, and is in the, "don't like what I'm seeing but I'm not ready to rage quit just yet" stage. Have to imagine that there are some folks here that just went through those same thoughts leading up to the Reddit migration.
Sorry but no.
If you can’t see that Musk is a huge piece of shit in 2023 then I don’t know what to tell you.
This random guy deserves to get screwed over for following what is basically tech trump. And deserves 0 sympathy. I don’t know if you’ve seen The Boys but he’s giving Todd.
Fuck. Imagine looking at twitter post Musk and thinking yeah give me some of that blue tick. No, are you insane?
You shouldn’t find Musk boring you find him alarming because he’s capable and proven to want to hoover up the same kind of weak minded people who eat up everything Trump does.
Frankly he’s got pretty strong fascist outlines and this guy should not have anywhere near as much power as he has been able to grab so far.
Any more is even more alarming.
Look how he’s trashed Twitter already, where people actually had a public service for news and discourse from journalists and thought leaders.
The alternative is trash thought leadership on medium or LinkedIn and who knows where the up to the minute journalists and news reporting has gone. As crappy as most of twitter was there was real value there, that is now fubar.
Man. This guy sounds sad. It almost looks like an abusive relationship. He got massively screwed over and he's still a fan of Twitter and Elon Musk.
Update:
According to two users on HN, @sports[1] and @tv[2] are also being taken over by Elon. Also @movies was taken over recently. Looks like all the OG usernames are going to X.
[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36993075
[2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36991128
[3] https://twitter.com/jeremyvaught/status/1687223289482035200
Sometimes I wonder if Musk's announcement was one of his usual elaborate shitposts which went spectacularly wrong, or if Musk intended all along to buy Twitter and burn it to the ground.
I still think $44 billion is a huge asking price to drive Twitter out of existence.
I mean the guy who this article is about and is most disrupted doesn’t even care enough to stop using Twitter. His big protest was to stop giving a multi billionaire more money for.. nothing. So Twitter lost nothing and gained more news time. This story is crazy to me.