The working title for this was uBLock Origin Minus, in reference to this being a Manifest v3 compatible version of uBlock which was forced to shed many features. See the original commit:...
The working title for this was uBLock Origin Minus, in reference to this being a Manifest v3 compatible version of uBlock which was forced to shed many features.
Filter lists update only when the extension updates (no fetching up to date lists from servers)
Many filters are dropped at conversion time due to MV3's limited filter syntax
No crafting your own filters (thus no element picker)
No strict-blocked pages
No per-site switches
No dynamic filtering
No importing external lists
Is this just being published on Firefox just as more of a placeholder then, just in case? Since Firefox is going to continue supporting Manifest V2, or that's how I understood it anyhow, there's...
Is this just being published on Firefox just as more of a placeholder then, just in case? Since Firefox is going to continue supporting Manifest V2, or that's how I understood it anyhow, there's seemingly no reason to even install this for anyone using Firefox, right?
It's there as an option. As someone above mentioned, the original UBO needs a ton of advanced permissions to function. One good side effect of this trimming is that it reduces those permissions to...
It's there as an option. As someone above mentioned, the original UBO needs a ton of advanced permissions to function. One good side effect of this trimming is that it reduces those permissions to nearly zero. If you don't care strongly about timely updates to filters nor use the power features, UBO Lite will be a performance increase and overall safer to install.
Ah yes I can see permissions being a good incentive for some to use this. Wouldn't timely updates of filters be the actual effectiveness of blocking ads? Meaning the less timely they are, the less...
Ah yes I can see permissions being a good incentive for some to use this.
Wouldn't timely updates of filters be the actual effectiveness of blocking ads? Meaning the less timely they are, the less effective it is at blocking ads.
I'm sure there are people out there who might prioritize some performance increase and more secure permission setup, but it is an ad-blocker after all, I guess it just depends on how much effectiveness it loses by not having as timely of updates to filters among the other changes.
Anyone else remember the days of internet without the requirement for an adblocker? I use Adblock and Ghostery. Between the two, I don't see many ads at all unless it's something quirky. I'm also...
Anyone else remember the days of internet without the requirement for an adblocker?
I use Adblock and Ghostery. Between the two, I don't see many ads at all unless it's something quirky. I'm also sick of cookie consent. I've tried various plugins but they all go wonky somewhere so if someone wants to suggest something, I'm all ears.
Taking the nostalgia goggles off, IMO browsing the web was just as much of a nightmare back in the 90s and early 00s as it is today without an adblocker, only we didn't even have the option to use...
Anyone else remember the days of internet without the requirement for an adblocker?
Taking the nostalgia goggles off, IMO browsing the web was just as much of a nightmare back in the 90s and early 00s as it is today without an adblocker, only we didn't even have the option to use an adblocker back then because they didn't exist yet. So instead we simply had to mentally filter out all super annoying website elements, like the eyesore background images, animated gifs, webring/banner ads, and learn to avoid inadvertently clicking links to porn, gore, and scam sites, which were practically everywhere.
About the only positive was that viruses and malware were generally pretty harmless back then. They were still super annoying, since they could render your computer totally unusable, and force you to reformat... but at least they weren't out to steal your identity, credit card info, or banking credentials, since those weren't commonly used on the net yet. And thankfully, ransomware and rootkits weren't all that prevalent yet either.
The days of Internet Explorer dominance were a Wild West. One typo in your address bar or one click on a wrong link and you wouldn’t just get obnoxious pop-up ads — malware would literally install...
The days of Internet Explorer dominance were a Wild West. One typo in your address bar or one click on a wrong link and you wouldn’t just get obnoxious pop-up ads — malware would literally install itself on your computer without asking.
I don’t miss having to run Spybot and AdAware all the time, or having Google Toolbar on not because I needed it for the search but because it acted as a pop-up blocker.
Yeah, it really was the wild west back then. The web today is so much less annoying and way safer overall than it was in the 90s/00s thanks to improved security standards, cybersecurity...
Yeah, it really was the wild west back then. The web today is so much less annoying and way safer overall than it was in the 90s/00s thanks to improved security standards, cybersecurity coalitions, and browser sandboxing/site isolation/etc. I don't miss the days of infinite popups, auto-installing viruses/spyware, browser hijacking, and daily antivirus scans either. And thank God we don't have to deal with Flash, Shockwave, RealAudio, Quicktime, and countless other plugins and codexes in order to consume media on the web anymore either.
Back then you needed a pop-up blocker for any hope of a peaceful browsing experience. You also needed an antivirus because you could easily get viruses from browsing the wrong sites (Mostly from...
Anyone else remember the days of internet without the requirement for an adblocker?
Back then you needed a pop-up blocker for any hope of a peaceful browsing experience. You also needed an antivirus because you could easily get viruses from browsing the wrong sites (Mostly from vulnerabilities in ActiveX, Java applets, Flash, etc.). Even worse when the pop-up blocker software you are using becomes a malware itself.
No. I mean, yes, I guess, but we're talking, like, 1995. The very tail of the academic/military Internet, before the commercial Internet got its feet under it and ran off with the thing....
No.
I mean, yes, I guess, but we're talking, like, 1995. The very tail of the academic/military Internet, before the commercial Internet got its feet under it and ran off with the thing. Realistically, probably 99% of modern Internet users absolutely do not remember the Internet before it became a user-hostile ad-driven capitalist hellscape.
For dealing with obnoxious floating elements of all sorts, I recommend the kill sticky bookmarklet (this version also unfreezes the page body, if the page in question does that). There's no point being surgical with a badly-behaved web page; just hit it with the biggest hammer you have until it stops moving and you can inspect the corpse.
Hi I'm using I still don't care about cookies with Android and Linux Firefox. Here ---> https://github.com/OhMyGuus/I-Still-Dont-Care-About-Cookies It works well for me.
I'm also sick of cookie consent. I've tried various plugins but they all go wonky somewhere so if someone wants to suggest something, I'm all ears.
Tangential but kudos to Deimos and other Tildes devs. uBlock Origin shows that nothing was blocked on this page. I know that's not going to be sustainable long term, but for now, it's refreshing...
Tangential but kudos to Deimos and other Tildes devs. uBlock Origin shows that nothing was blocked on this page. I know that's not going to be sustainable long term, but for now, it's refreshing to see a website with zero ads and trackers.
Yeah he intends to run it on donations and part of the trick is that he never intends it to grow as large as, let's say, reddit. Nor will there be image or video hosting to pay for. It's...
Yeah he intends to run it on donations and part of the trick is that he never intends it to grow as large as, let's say, reddit. Nor will there be image or video hosting to pay for.
It's lightweight and that works in his (and our) favour for a lot of reasons.
Yeah absolutely, I really appreciate how tildes is run. Can't predict the future of course, but I think Deimos has done a generally good job all around so far.
Yeah absolutely, I really appreciate how tildes is run. Can't predict the future of course, but I think Deimos has done a generally good job all around so far.
The short of it is that uBlock Origin Lite is uBlock Origin with way less features. You should pick uBlock Origin Lite if you: Plan to continue using Chrome (or a browser based on Chrome) in the...
The short of it is that uBlock Origin Lite is uBlock Origin with way less features.
You should pick uBlock Origin Lite if you:
Plan to continue using Chrome (or a browser based on Chrome) in the long term. Chrome is planning on making a change that will prevent the original uBlock Origin from working as it currently does.
There may be a case if you have an extremely low power PC also, since uBO Lite makes some claims about improved efficiency.
But really, you're better off using the original in basically all cases.
Yeah. I don't understand those people that are whining about switching from chrome to firefox. I can't think of a site that's broken. I did have few issues where site wasn't working on Firefox,...
Yeah. I don't understand those people that are whining about switching from chrome to firefox. I can't think of a site that's broken.
I did have few issues where site wasn't working on Firefox, but then after I fired up Chrome I realized that it is also broken there.
I've run across a few. Most notably, I had a doctor who offered telehealth appointments, but the web app they used for those appointments didn't support Firefox. It just displayed a "use a...
I've run across a few. Most notably, I had a doctor who offered telehealth appointments, but the web app they used for those appointments didn't support Firefox. It just displayed a "use a different browser" message and refused to load.
...so I set my User-Agent to match Chrome, and then it worked just fine.
Not a site, but the big thing I miss is the integrated Google Translate. The Firefox extension is very wonky (and in mobile's case, non-existent). I was also getting used to tab groups right...
I can't think of a site that's broken.
Not a site, but the big thing I miss is the integrated Google Translate. The Firefox extension is very wonky (and in mobile's case, non-existent). I was also getting used to tab groups right before I switched, and FF's container tabs in comparison are buried deep and need a UX pass.
FF's mobile apps is also currently super limited in extensions, but that's being fxed soonish (within 12 months), and it's not like Chrome allowed those extensions to begin with.
There are a number of add-ons that implement tab groups in various forms. I use this one, but I know many swear to vertical tabs instead. And there's a trick you can use to install any add-on on...
There are a number of add-ons that implement tab groups in various forms. I use this one, but I know many swear to vertical tabs instead.
And there's a trick you can use to install any add-on on Firefox Android, though some won't work because of the difference in UI and features.
Which extension do you use? I find they're quite different in their ability of useability (though yeah it absolutely isn't as easy as Chrome) and afaik none of them is the "official" one. I'm...
Which extension do you use? I find they're quite different in their ability of useability (though yeah it absolutely isn't as easy as Chrome) and afaik none of them is the "official" one.
I'm excited for when all the extensions come to mobile though.
I use the "official" one actually: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/multi-account-containers/ just from the outset it is weird because FF has native option features for container...
just from the outset it is weird because FF has native option features for container tabs, but you need to install the add-on for it to work. I think only the recent VPN features in Firefox have done this.
They aren't really "tab groups". they are more powerful in that they essentially create a separate sandbox of cookies/trackers for every group you make. So you can make a container and only use it for Facebook and FB can't gleam anything else from your other tabs and history (they can anyway through other means, but I like closing off one avenue). I can have two tabs of the same site open at the same time and have them operate on different accounts if they are in different containers.
But since they aren't tab groups, they are nowhere near as convenient for grouping content. you can hide a container (even if the option isn't intuitive), but when you bring up any new site in a container it all floods back. You can't minimize a container's tabs because they aren't really "grouped" that way. You can "sort" them, I guess. And AFAIK the mobile app has zero support for this stuff.
works with the container concept, conveniently enough. Pop it in/out with F1 and it provides a much more manageable view of your tabs, knowing to child tabs to another based on what tab spawned a new one.
Ah sorry I think there's been a misunderstanding, I was asking about which translation extension you use, not about container tabs. I only realize now that it's not clear which I was asking about!
Ah sorry I think there's been a misunderstanding, I was asking about which translation extension you use, not about container tabs. I only realize now that it's not clear which I was asking about!
oh whoops, apologies. That's a much simpler question. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/traduzir-paginas-web/ has Google or Yandex as a backend
oh whoops, apologies. That's a much simpler question.
Ah yeah looks like it's the same one I use. I just remember going through a couple of worse ones before I found it, so I figured if that was the case for you I could recommend it lol
Ah yeah looks like it's the same one I use. I just remember going through a couple of worse ones before I found it, so I figured if that was the case for you I could recommend it lol
See @raze2012's answer above. This extension is more performant and has a lower threat profile due to requiring almost no permissions. It runs declaratively rather than needing to run code on...
See @raze2012's answer above. This extension is more performant and has a lower threat profile due to requiring almost no permissions. It runs declaratively rather than needing to run code on every page you load.
Most people never use any of power user features that uBlock Origin supports.
That's pretty cool, though uBO is probably the extension I have installed that I trust the most with additional permissions.
The working title for this was uBLock Origin Minus, in reference to this being a Manifest v3 compatible version of uBlock which was forced to shed many features.
See the original commit: https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/commit/a559f5f2715c58fea4de09330cf3d06194ccc897
See github issue about Manifest v3's impact on uBlock Origin: https://github.com/uBlockOrigin/uBlock-issues/issues/338
Looks like an extreme downgrade
Is this just being published on Firefox just as more of a placeholder then, just in case? Since Firefox is going to continue supporting Manifest V2, or that's how I understood it anyhow, there's seemingly no reason to even install this for anyone using Firefox, right?
It's there as an option. As someone above mentioned, the original UBO needs a ton of advanced permissions to function. One good side effect of this trimming is that it reduces those permissions to nearly zero. If you don't care strongly about timely updates to filters nor use the power features, UBO Lite will be a performance increase and overall safer to install.
Ah yes I can see permissions being a good incentive for some to use this.
Wouldn't timely updates of filters be the actual effectiveness of blocking ads? Meaning the less timely they are, the less effective it is at blocking ads.
I'm sure there are people out there who might prioritize some performance increase and more secure permission setup, but it is an ad-blocker after all, I guess it just depends on how much effectiveness it loses by not having as timely of updates to filters among the other changes.
Anyone else remember the days of internet without the requirement for an adblocker?
I use Adblock and Ghostery. Between the two, I don't see many ads at all unless it's something quirky. I'm also sick of cookie consent. I've tried various plugins but they all go wonky somewhere so if someone wants to suggest something, I'm all ears.
Taking the nostalgia goggles off, IMO browsing the web was just as much of a nightmare back in the 90s and early 00s as it is today without an adblocker, only we didn't even have the option to use an adblocker back then because they didn't exist yet. So instead we simply had to mentally filter out all super annoying website elements, like the eyesore background images, animated gifs, webring/banner ads, and learn to avoid inadvertently clicking links to porn, gore, and scam sites, which were practically everywhere.
About the only positive was that viruses and malware were generally pretty harmless back then. They were still super annoying, since they could render your computer totally unusable, and force you to reformat... but at least they weren't out to steal your identity, credit card info, or banking credentials, since those weren't commonly used on the net yet. And thankfully, ransomware and rootkits weren't all that prevalent yet either.
The days of Internet Explorer dominance were a Wild West. One typo in your address bar or one click on a wrong link and you wouldn’t just get obnoxious pop-up ads — malware would literally install itself on your computer without asking.
I don’t miss having to run Spybot and AdAware all the time, or having Google Toolbar on not because I needed it for the search but because it acted as a pop-up blocker.
Yeah, it really was the wild west back then. The web today is so much less annoying and way safer overall than it was in the 90s/00s thanks to improved security standards, cybersecurity coalitions, and browser sandboxing/site isolation/etc. I don't miss the days of infinite popups, auto-installing viruses/spyware, browser hijacking, and daily antivirus scans either. And thank God we don't have to deal with Flash, Shockwave, RealAudio, Quicktime, and countless other plugins and codexes in order to consume media on the web anymore either.
Back then you needed a pop-up blocker for any hope of a peaceful browsing experience. You also needed an antivirus because you could easily get viruses from browsing the wrong sites (Mostly from vulnerabilities in ActiveX, Java applets, Flash, etc.). Even worse when the pop-up blocker software you are using becomes a malware itself.
Ghostery was bought by an ad company a number of years ago, and I don't think it does anything interesting that ubo does not. I suggest removing it.
I've heard that as well about Ghostery. uBlockOrigin and Privacy Badger were recommended to me instead.
No.
I mean, yes, I guess, but we're talking, like, 1995. The very tail of the academic/military Internet, before the commercial Internet got its feet under it and ran off with the thing. Realistically, probably 99% of modern Internet users absolutely do not remember the Internet before it became a user-hostile ad-driven capitalist hellscape.
For dealing with obnoxious floating elements of all sorts, I recommend the kill sticky bookmarklet (this version also unfreezes the page body, if the page in question does that). There's no point being surgical with a badly-behaved web page; just hit it with the biggest hammer you have until it stops moving and you can inspect the corpse.
Let's not forget the overwhelming color gamut that ranged from horrendous pink to ectoplasmic green and finally electric blue <Shudder>
Consent-o-matic is far from perfect but greatly reduces the amount of times I have to go through the cookie consent deselection.
Hi
I'm using I still don't care about cookies with Android and Linux Firefox.
Here ---> https://github.com/OhMyGuus/I-Still-Dont-Care-About-Cookies
It works well for me.
I use this one and it works really well for me. I also pair it with Cookie AutoDelete so even after consenting to cookies they are deleted.
Tangential but kudos to Deimos and other Tildes devs. uBlock Origin shows that nothing was blocked on this page. I know that's not going to be sustainable long term, but for now, it's refreshing to see a website with zero ads and trackers.
Tildes doesn't ever plan on adding advertising afaik -- something I really appreciate.
Yeah he intends to run it on donations and part of the trick is that he never intends it to grow as large as, let's say, reddit. Nor will there be image or video hosting to pay for.
It's lightweight and that works in his (and our) favour for a lot of reasons.
Yeah absolutely, I really appreciate how tildes is run. Can't predict the future of course, but I think Deimos has done a generally good job all around so far.
The other trick is that the site is designed to be incredibly lightweight and efficient. A page is only a few kilobytes!
The short of it is that uBlock Origin Lite is uBlock Origin with way less features.
You should pick uBlock Origin Lite if you:
There may be a case if you have an extremely low power PC also, since uBO Lite makes some claims about improved efficiency.
But really, you're better off using the original in basically all cases.
edit: MIssed a word (low)
Yeah. I don't understand those people that are whining about switching from chrome to firefox. I can't think of a site that's broken.
I did have few issues where site wasn't working on Firefox, but then after I fired up Chrome I realized that it is also broken there.
I've run across a few. Most notably, I had a doctor who offered telehealth appointments, but the web app they used for those appointments didn't support Firefox. It just displayed a "use a different browser" message and refused to load.
...so I set my User-Agent to match Chrome, and then it worked just fine.
I have a handful too. First I try private browsing to see if an extension is breaking it.
Not a site, but the big thing I miss is the integrated Google Translate. The Firefox extension is very wonky (and in mobile's case, non-existent). I was also getting used to tab groups right before I switched, and FF's container tabs in comparison are buried deep and need a UX pass.
FF's mobile apps is also currently super limited in extensions, but that's being fxed soonish (within 12 months), and it's not like Chrome allowed those extensions to begin with.
There are a number of add-ons that implement tab groups in various forms. I use this one, but I know many swear to vertical tabs instead.
And there's a trick you can use to install any add-on on Firefox Android, though some won't work because of the difference in UI and features.
Which extension do you use? I find they're quite different in their ability of useability (though yeah it absolutely isn't as easy as Chrome) and afaik none of them is the "official" one.
I'm excited for when all the extensions come to mobile though.
I use the "official" one actually: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/multi-account-containers/
just from the outset it is weird because FF has native option features for container tabs, but you need to install the add-on for it to work. I think only the recent VPN features in Firefox have done this.
They aren't really "tab groups". they are more powerful in that they essentially create a separate sandbox of cookies/trackers for every group you make. So you can make a container and only use it for Facebook and FB can't gleam anything else from your other tabs and history (they can anyway through other means, but I like closing off one avenue). I can have two tabs of the same site open at the same time and have them operate on different accounts if they are in different containers.
But since they aren't tab groups, they are nowhere near as convenient for grouping content. you can hide a container (even if the option isn't intuitive), but when you bring up any new site in a container it all floods back. You can't minimize a container's tabs because they aren't really "grouped" that way. You can "sort" them, I guess. And AFAIK the mobile app has zero support for this stuff.
With all that said, for grouping I use tree style tabs: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/tree-style-tab/
works with the container concept, conveniently enough. Pop it in/out with F1 and it provides a much more manageable view of your tabs, knowing to child tabs to another based on what tab spawned a new one.
Ah sorry I think there's been a misunderstanding, I was asking about which translation extension you use, not about container tabs. I only realize now that it's not clear which I was asking about!
oh whoops, apologies. That's a much simpler question.
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/traduzir-paginas-web/
has Google or Yandex as a backend
Ah yeah looks like it's the same one I use. I just remember going through a couple of worse ones before I found it, so I figured if that was the case for you I could recommend it lol
Why would someone want uBlock Lite instead of the standard uBlock?
See @raze2012's answer above. This extension is more performant and has a lower threat profile due to requiring almost no permissions. It runs declaratively rather than needing to run code on every page you load.
Most people never use any of power user features that uBlock Origin supports.