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Should I quit smoking right now, or wait?

I'm an on-again off-again smoker, currently (the past 4-5 months) on-again. Been meaning to requit, but it's been much harder for me this time.

Here's the crux. Two of my roommates just tested positive (for Covid). Not guaranteed, but it's a good bet that, within another 2-3 days, all 5 of us will be symptomatic.

Am I better off quitting right now, or will that just put added stress on my lungs during the coming illness, and I should wait until after I recover (always assuming I survive it, of course)?


ETA: Y'all are shooting holes in my, apparently, flimsy justifications to keep smoking. Just switched to vaping now.

Thanks everyone.

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  1. whbboyd
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    You should quit immediately. There is no stress on your lungs from quitting smoking, and benefits start to accrue almost immediately. (And the mental stress of quitting, while not to be...

    You should quit immediately. There is no stress on your lungs from quitting smoking, and benefits start to accrue almost immediately. (And the mental stress of quitting, while not to be underestimated, should have little impact on the severity of a COVID course.)

    If you can offset your nicotine use via a route that doesn't involve your lungs (e.g. gum, patches), that would be ideal for your health, but even vaping would be a significant improvement over smoking cigarettes.

    edit: here's a nice infographic about it. You are literally measurably healthier within 24 hours of your last cigarette.

    25 votes
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    lou
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    Well I'm not a doctor, but I'd very surprised if smoking didn't have a negative in most respiratory issues. One thing I know does happen is that smoking makes it hard for you to perceive you're...

    Well I'm not a doctor, but I'd very surprised if smoking didn't have a negative in most respiratory issues.

    One thing I know does happen is that smoking makes it hard for you to perceive you're having some issues because it dulls the irritation in the throat in such a way that the smoker may have a subjective feeling that they got worse after quitting, when in reality they're merely noticing what was already going on, and are therefore able to seek help much sooner, with better outcomes.

    So yeah, quit smoking.

    Again, not a doctor.

    5 votes
    1. [3]
      Eric_the_Cerise
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      Thanks, but to clarify ... yes, smoking absolutely makes Covid illness and recovery worse (and, I'm sure, a host of other things). But my specific question is, is it better for me to quit smoking...

      Thanks, but to clarify ... yes, smoking absolutely makes Covid illness and recovery worse (and, I'm sure, a host of other things). But my specific question is, is it better for me to quit smoking 3 days before I get sick with Covid -- will that help any? Or, will the stress (both physical stress on my lungs and body from adjusting to the change, and the general psychological stress of quitting) actually be worse than just continuing to smoke for another couple of weeks, and then quitting afterwards?

      As it stands right now, whatever damage I've done to my lungs over the past few months is not going to magically disappear in 3 days. But it might help a little bit by the time I become symptomatic ... or the healing process that my lungs have to go through now, may actually be worse if it's complicated with Covid.

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      1. lou
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        My guess is that continually inhaling smoke while having COVID will make it much worse. Regardless, if you do get COVID, there's a small chance that you might be hospitalized, and in that case you...

        My guess is that continually inhaling smoke while having COVID will make it much worse.

        Regardless, if you do get COVID, there's a small chance that you might be hospitalized, and in that case you would be forced to quit anyway. I'd probably want to anticipate such eventuality in order to reduce the cravings in an already awful situation.

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      2. vektor
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        Not sure how you intend to stop, but maybe there's options that will help you give your lungs a break while not dealing with withdrawal as much? Vaping, nicotine patches, that kinda thing. I've...

        Not sure how you intend to stop, but maybe there's options that will help you give your lungs a break while not dealing with withdrawal as much? Vaping, nicotine patches, that kinda thing. I've got no clue about smoking, just throwing out ideas.

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  3. [4]
    Amarok
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    Quit now, definitely. I had Covid (the original pre-Alpha) and am also an on-again off-again smoker. I quit when I had it, and I usually do the same when I have a cold/flu for the same reason....

    Quit now, definitely. I had Covid (the original pre-Alpha) and am also an on-again off-again smoker. I quit when I had it, and I usually do the same when I have a cold/flu for the same reason. Respiratory infections are never fun if you're a smoker no matter what the cause is. Stopping will definitely make a noticeable improvement in your breathing within a day or two, even just cutting down helps. I'd often smoke just half a cig and save the other half for hours later. Just a couple puffs is enough to stop the craving, it doesn't take an entire cig. Smoking less does lead to enjoying it more.

    Nicotine's physical addition doesn't even last a week for most people, and the 2nd/3rd days are the worst. If you can make it through that it gets a lot easier very fast. I find it helps to keep in mind that craving attacks only last for a couple of minutes. Eat an apple or some nuts or other small snack as a distraction or go for a walk and the craving will be gone soonish. There are also many delicious vapes out there with or without nicotine, though I'd wager even puffing on those will really suck if you've got Covid. You can also for days 2/3 focus on some other thing you enjoy that can distract you from the cravings - like disappearing into video games such as Stellaris for hours at a time.

    I also find it helps to make damn sure you have no more cigs around. Let laziness convince you that it's really not worth that trip to the gas station to pick up a couple packs. You'll be less likely to smoke if you have to clean up and jump in the car to go get more cigs.

    If you need some mental hacks to help, there's still no better insantly-quit book than Alan Carr's The Easy Way. It'll program you not to smoke in an hour, even if you smoke while you read it. ;)

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      Eric_the_Cerise
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      Thanks, Amarok, all good tips, though my current living conditions conspire against me. But yeah, the plan is to switch to nicotine-containing vapes for a few days to a week, then quit that, too....

      Thanks, Amarok, all good tips, though my current living conditions conspire against me. But yeah, the plan is to switch to nicotine-containing vapes for a few days to a week, then quit that, too.

      For me, it's always been 3 days. If I can make it to Day 4, it's all downhill from there (though, weirdly, I'm at risk of restarting after 4-6 weeks).

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      1. Amarok
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        I have the same problem. It's either being drunk at a pub and bumming/being offered one, or a combination of pressure/stress and being really ticked off at something that restarts my habit. :/...

        I have the same problem. It's either being drunk at a pub and bumming/being offered one, or a combination of pressure/stress and being really ticked off at something that restarts my habit. :/

        I'll leave you with my all time favorite smoking scene.

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      2. vord
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        Also, with covid there's a half decent chance you'll be too fatigued for 48 hours to want to get up and get a lighter. Doc has told me that if you smoke for 20 years, provided you avoided any...

        Also, with covid there's a half decent chance you'll be too fatigued for 48 hours to want to get up and get a lighter.

        Doc has told me that if you smoke for 20 years, provided you avoided any cancers, in 20 years your body will be back to non-smoker levels of health.

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  4. wedgel
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    You're better off quiting, the sooner the better. The longer you smoke the harder it is to quit. I smoked heavily for over twenty years and quiting was no fun. I was dizzy as fuck from getting...

    You're better off quiting, the sooner the better. The longer you smoke the harder it is to quit. I smoked heavily for over twenty years and quiting was no fun. I was dizzy as fuck from getting more oxygen than I was used to, that lasted four or five days. I was exhausted but on edge for weeks. My sense of taste change, a lot of foods just tasted like weird ass chemicals. And everything smelled like shit, I cannot stress this enough as it lasted for about two years (I was abusing prescription nasal spray at one point trying to deaden it for fucks sakes.) I'm a firm believer that anyone who tells you how great getting your sense of smell back has never experienced it.

    Anyway, don't be like me quit sooner than later. As far as vaping goes, that's a good idea. Just be aware that there are two types of nic, your old style box mod style vapes and you pod style vapes. The pod style use salt nic base and the mod style usually don't. Salt nic hits more like actual cigs where the old standard vg, pg, nic base doesn't. Salt nic is also a lot more addictive. So If you're trying to get off of nicotine I would recommend avoiding salt nic type vapes. Good luck.

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  5. teaearlgraycold
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    This is moot. It’s always better for your health to quit sooner. Find an addiction counselor if you need help reaching a decision.

    This is moot. It’s always better for your health to quit sooner. Find an addiction counselor if you need help reaching a decision.

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  6. highsomatic
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    I would say quit now. Odds are you’ll be infected with the omicron variant which mainly resides in the throat rather than lungs. The one I had gave me the worst throat pain I’ve ever dealt with...

    I would say quit now. Odds are you’ll be infected with the omicron variant which mainly resides in the throat rather than lungs. The one I had gave me the worst throat pain I’ve ever dealt with that no medication that I was able to find would alleviate the pain (for 2 days). Every swallow felt like I had daggers in the back of my throat and it was so bad it affected my eating habits. if you happen to have this symptom, would it feel nicer as you’re further along in your nicotine detox or right at the very start?

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  7. knocklessmonster
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    There should actually be minimal stress on your lungs anyway. Current COVID variants tend to be more of an upper respiratory illness than lower respiratory. People I know who have had it,...

    or will that just put added stress on my lungs during the coming illness

    There should actually be minimal stress on your lungs anyway. Current COVID variants tend to be more of an upper respiratory illness than lower respiratory. People I know who have had it, including myself, recently only had sinus issues and fever. I actually had to test consistently to be sure because it felt like a cold, until the fever hit last night.

    What I would recommend is switching to gum in the short term if possible to avoid the lung irritation. The biggest "risk" you've got is your body adjusting to the lack of nicotine, and you may not want to go through that with COVID. Mostly it'll just be psychological unpleasantness.

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    Algernon_Asimov
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    If you were watching TV in Australia in the late 1990s, you would know the tagline "Every cigarette is doing you damage." These days, the message is a bit more positive: "Every cigarette you don't...

    If you were watching TV in Australia in the late 1990s, you would know the tagline "Every cigarette is doing you damage."

    These days, the message is a bit more positive: "Every cigarette you don't smoke is doing you good."

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      Eric_the_Cerise
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      Okay, but why buy cigarettes and not smoke them? That just seems like a waste of money.

      Okay, but why buy cigarettes and not smoke them? That just seems like a waste of money.

      1. Algernon_Asimov
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        You're right. It is a waste of money. So don't buy them! That way, you won't be wasting your money on cigarettes you won't smoke. Good logic! :) Or... do buy them, but smoke fewer of them. Instead...

        You're right. It is a waste of money. So don't buy them! That way, you won't be wasting your money on cigarettes you won't smoke. Good logic! :)

        Or... do buy them, but smoke fewer of them. Instead of smoking 20 cigarettes per day, smoke 10 per day. That's still an improvement.

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    NoblePath
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    Have you explored mushrooms? Microdosing may help make the quitting permanent.

    Have you explored mushrooms? Microdosing may help make the quitting permanent.

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    1. wervenyt
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      Maybe not in the wake of a covid scare though...

      Maybe not in the wake of a covid scare though...

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    2. Eric_the_Cerise
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      I don't consider it (primarily) relevant to quitting smoking ... however, I did actually just yesterday pick up some microdose-friendly truffles. I've been taking Lion's Mane + niacin for the past...

      I don't consider it (primarily) relevant to quitting smoking ... however, I did actually just yesterday pick up some microdose-friendly truffles. I've been taking Lion's Mane + niacin for the past few months, seen a definite improvement in my mental functions and possibly in my mood, as well. Planning to add the psilocybin microdosing to the stack on Monday, see if it augments anything.

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