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US FBI readies new war on trans people

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  1. [4]
    aphoenix
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    Everything hurts and this is terrible. It is evil and vindictive. It is stupid and baseless. I want to put something affirming here because I feel like it is needed. To whomever needs this: You...

    Everything hurts and this is terrible. It is evil and vindictive. It is stupid and baseless.

    I want to put something affirming here because I feel like it is needed. To whomever needs this:

    You belong. There are people that believe in you and your rights. The world is better with you in it. Evil isn't going to ultimately triumph.

    58 votes
    1. kfwyre
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      Seconded. There are so many people that love and support you. I know that’s very hard to see right now, but know that we’re here.

      Seconded.

      There are so many people that love and support you. I know that’s very hard to see right now, but know that we’re here.

      21 votes
    2. mieum
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      Thirded. In times like these, I like to take Mr. Rogers’ advice and “look for the people helping.”

      Thirded.

      In times like these, I like to take Mr. Rogers’ advice and “look for the people helping.”

      20 votes
    3. Sunbutt23
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      I agree with this message and want others to know.

      I agree with this message and want others to know.

      10 votes
  2. [8]
    teaearlgraycold
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    Sorry to make light of this, but the government is saying that the love people have for trans people is so strong that they get turned into assassins?

    They are cynically targeting trans people because the shooter’s lover was trans

    Sorry to make light of this, but the government is saying that the love people have for trans people is so strong that they get turned into assassins?

    37 votes
    1. [4]
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      1. [2]
        kingofsnake
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        Yeah, same. The whole thing is so preposterous and every day, I can't believe that so many people are so far down the rabbit hole that they don't know up from down. Like, weren't you guys the free...

        Yeah, same. The whole thing is so preposterous and every day, I can't believe that so many people are so far down the rabbit hole that they don't know up from down.

        Like, weren't you guys the free speech absolutists just last year? Doesn't that track in your brains at all??

        13 votes
        1. dhcrazy333
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          I've found the bounds of their "free speech" is "free speech for me to be an asshole to those I don't like with impunity". It's not free speech for you.

          I've found the bounds of their "free speech" is "free speech for me to be an asshole to those I don't like with impunity". It's not free speech for you.

          16 votes
      2. teaearlgraycold
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        Loving trans people is the reefer madness of our time.

        Loving trans people is the reefer madness of our time.

        7 votes
    2. [4]
      Minori
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      I don't know about you, but my love language is political violence! This is a bizarre string of events.

      I don't know about you, but my love language is political violence!


      This is a bizarre string of events.

      4 votes
      1. [3]
        teaearlgraycold
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        I like non-violent protests

        I like non-violent protests

        3 votes
        1. [2]
          faye_luna
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          in the end they don't do anything and it doesn't hurt the system. this makes me furious and i want to cry (am crying now). People can be so amazing but also so terrible.

          in the end they don't do anything and it doesn't hurt the system. this makes me furious and i want to cry (am crying now). People can be so amazing but also so terrible.

          5 votes
          1. Minori
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            MLK and Gandhi were nonviolent and inspired huge changes. Don't give up hope!

            MLK and Gandhi were nonviolent and inspired huge changes. Don't give up hope!

            3 votes
  3. SteeeveTheSteve
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    The only terrorist organization I see here is running the country right now. Ice kidnapping citizens, military occupation of cities (and the threat of it), labeling transgender community as...

    The only terrorist organization I see here is running the country right now. Ice kidnapping citizens, military occupation of cities (and the threat of it), labeling transgender community as terrorists, violating the constitution and using the highest position in the country to enforce their "domestic ideological goals" at the expense of the people, republicans in congress allowing it all to happen... I'm sure this list can go on and on.

    FBI Definition of Domestic Terrorism:
    Activities: Involving acts dangerous to human life that are a violation of criminal laws of the US or any State; appearing to be intended to Intimidate or course a civilian population; influence the policy of government by intimidation or coercion; or affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination or kidnapping; and occurring primarily within the territorial jurisdiction of the US.

    17 votes
  4. [2]
    BeardyHat
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    Hi people, I'm not sure what else to do, but I've been doing my best just to be nice and make you feel seen as a Trans person. I'm not sure if I'm doing it right, but I'm just trying to treat...

    Hi people, I'm not sure what else to do, but I've been doing my best just to be nice and make you feel seen as a Trans person. I'm not sure if I'm doing it right, but I'm just trying to treat Trans people I see and meet as regular people; I can see the reticence and caution in your eyes, as a white dude like me approaches you, but I do my best just to be nice and treat you as a normal human being.

    I'm sorry you're dealing with this right now, I don't know what else to do.

    My Nephew is possibly trans and I fear for him. I'm using his born pronouns, because he hasn't identified himself any other way yet, but I'm scared for that boy every day.

    16 votes
    1. Sunbutt23
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      TIL nibling for non gendered niece / nephew. Thank you for making me learn!

      TIL nibling for non gendered niece / nephew. Thank you for making me learn!

      8 votes
  5. [19]
    PendingKetchup
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    Does everybody have their tee shirts ready for the war? If the FBI wants to gin up a terror network based on the concept of being transgender, they will have to do a lot of ginning up. There are...

    Does everybody have their tee shirts ready for the war?

    If the FBI wants to gin up a terror network based on the concept of being transgender, they will have to do a lot of ginning up. There are only so many Zizes. There are a lot of people with a lot of experience holding space for their friends, which does not a conspiracy to commit politically-motivated violence make.

    13 votes
    1. [17]
      aphoenix
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      I'm ready. Since we're in need of good feels, I'll also share a story - I was wearing this at a farmer's market in the summer, and went to purchase a sausage roll from one of the stalls. They...

      I'm ready. Since we're in need of good feels, I'll also share a story - I was wearing this at a farmer's market in the summer, and went to purchase a sausage roll from one of the stalls. They liked my shirt and didn't charge me for the sausage roll.

      19 votes
      1. [4]
        bellewinn
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        i would feel very safe around you <3 these tees really mean a lot when i see them

        i would feel very safe around you <3 these tees really mean a lot when i see them

        10 votes
        1. [3]
          aphoenix
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          <3 Thanks, this is why I've been wearing this and my "Free Dad Hugs" pride shirt a lot more recently.

          <3

          Thanks, this is why I've been wearing this and my "Free Dad Hugs" pride shirt a lot more recently.

          10 votes
          1. [2]
            smoontjes
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            This is true allyship. Thank you.

            This is true allyship. Thank you.

            6 votes
            1. aphoenix
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              I appreciate the kindness. I really like that these shirts (the "You Will Have To Go Through me" ones) do directly support local trans-positive charities.

              I appreciate the kindness. I really like that these shirts (the "You Will Have To Go Through me" ones) do directly support local trans-positive charities.

              4 votes
      2. [2]
        kfwyre
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        Another serve! Love the shirt (of course) and the cute story. My political platform is that all trans allies should get free food.

        Another serve!

        Love the shirt (of course) and the cute story. My political platform is that all trans allies should get free food.

        7 votes
        1. aphoenix
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          I would vote for that. Heck, I think I have voted for that at a local level.

          I would vote for that. Heck, I think I have voted for that at a local level.

          2 votes
      3. [2]
        teaearlgraycold
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        Damn I wouldn’t want to try and go through you.

        Damn I wouldn’t want to try and go through you.

        3 votes
        1. aphoenix
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          Some people still elect to say hateful things when I'm wearing pride paraphernalia, but I think being a behemoth does deflect a lot of it.

          Some people still elect to say hateful things when I'm wearing pride paraphernalia, but I think being a behemoth does deflect a lot of it.

          3 votes
      4. [8]
        nukeman
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        Not gonna lie, not what I expected you to look like.

        Not gonna lie, not what I expected you to look like.

        6 votes
        1. [7]
          aphoenix
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          May I inquire about how I defied expectation? Was it not being a bird made out of fire, because that comes up with some frequency.

          May I inquire about how I defied expectation? Was it not being a bird made out of fire, because that comes up with some frequency.

          6 votes
          1. [2]
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            1. aphoenix
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              If you are ever in Southern Ontario, Canada, I am available. I would say that upwards of 95% of my comments that I've made have been made while wearing very informal gym shorts. I'm glad! I also...

              If I saw you with your 'free dad hugs', I'd probably approach you and politely request one, as I've never had one in my life.

              If you are ever in Southern Ontario, Canada, I am available.

              those floating digital entities are wearing business attire.

              I would say that upwards of 95% of my comments that I've made have been made while wearing very informal gym shorts.

              I would immediately feel safe if I saw someone of your stature and physique wearing that shirt in my vicinity.

              I'm glad! I also know that I look more "michigan militia" than "fiercely supportive ally" so I try to signal safety as much as I can.

              7 votes
          2. [5]
            nukeman
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            Honestly I tend to think of most of the guy-identified folks on the site as looking vaguely like Ezra Klein.

            Honestly I tend to think of most of the guy-identified folks on the site as looking vaguely like Ezra Klein.

            6 votes
            1. [2]
              aphoenix
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              I like that - he's got a very kind face. This reminds me of a conversation about how we imagine the other Tilderen to look that I had with @kfwyre years ago. I like Ezra Klein as a default look.

              I like that - he's got a very kind face.

              This reminds me of a conversation about how we imagine the other Tilderen to look that I had with @kfwyre years ago. I like Ezra Klein as a default look.

              4 votes
              1. kfwyre
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                Wow, that really was years ago! Doesn’t feel like it. In case anyone’s interested, there’s also a part 2 to that conversation. It’s super cool that we’ve both now been here long enough to refer...

                Wow, that really was years ago! Doesn’t feel like it. In case anyone’s interested, there’s also a part 2 to that conversation.

                It’s super cool that we’ve both now been here long enough to refer back to things that happened so long ago. Also it’s cool that Tildes has been able to persist and be a nice place to be that whole time as well.

                4 votes
    2. patience_limited
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      Now I'm ready, thank you for the link. And I just got done shopping at my favorite trans-friendly thrift store, and got to compliment the world's kindest and prettiest trans girl on her latest...

      Now I'm ready, thank you for the link. And I just got done shopping at my favorite trans-friendly thrift store, and got to compliment the world's kindest and prettiest trans girl on her latest 'fit. She's been a boon to my body positivity, and I'll go to the barricades for her and other trans-family.

      3 votes
  6. [4]
    smoontjes
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    Perhaps I am grasping at straws in denial that this could be true.. is this a freelance journalist's personal blog or something? Is any of this stuff trustworthy? The sources are two unnamed people.

    Perhaps I am grasping at straws in denial that this could be true.. is this a freelance journalist's personal blog or something? Is any of this stuff trustworthy? The sources are two unnamed people.

    9 votes
    1. AnthonyB
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      Ken Klippenstein is a reliable journalist who wrote for The Intercept and a few other notable publications. He's broken a handful of big stories in recent years including the Luigi manifesto and...

      Ken Klippenstein is a reliable journalist who wrote for The Intercept and a few other notable publications. He's broken a handful of big stories in recent years including the Luigi manifesto and Tyler Robinson's discord logs. I don't know if he has a perfect record, but his sources are usually reliable.

      Edit: got scooped, but leaving this up to back up the other comments :)

      19 votes
    2. an_angry_tiger
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      Ken Kilpiienstein is a journalist, formerly at publications such as The Intercept, The Nation, The Young Turks, amongst other places, but now independent on his own Substack. He's generally pretty...

      Ken Kilpiienstein is a journalist, formerly at publications such as The Intercept, The Nation, The Young Turks, amongst other places, but now independent on his own Substack.

      He's generally pretty reliable and neutral enough for me, although no one is perfect or infallible.

      As for sources and if this is trustworthy and such, well this article specifically, who can say. Is the administration in general targeting trans people however? Oh yeah for sure, I mean you don't need research for that, just listen to when the POTUS starts bringing up "transtifa" and blaming trans people for all the worlds' woes. The administration isn't like, shying away from transphobia (or anything, really), like its pretty clear cut what they're about and what they're doing.

      16 votes
  7. Parou
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    "The {t-slur} are making us shoot our own!!!"

    "The {t-slur} are making us shoot our own!!!"

    4 votes