28
votes
‘Deadpool & Wolverine’ struts past $1B global box office; soon to become biggest R-rated movie ever worldwide
Link information
This data is scraped automatically and may be incorrect.
- Authors
- Nancy Tartaglione
- Published
- Aug 11 2024
- Word count
- 386 words
This is the first comic book movie to hit a billion since Spider-Man: No Way Home. The billion dollar movies since Spider-Man have been: Top Gun: Maverick, Jurassic World: Dominion, Avatar: The Way of Water, The Super Mario Bros Movie, Barbie, and Inside Out 2.
This is also the second R rated film to hit the billion dollar mark, the first being Joker. Joker 2 will probably also hit that mark but we'll see if it can even come close to D&W.
Also Borderlands came out this weekend and completely tanked with terrible critical and audience reception opening to 8M for the weekend. It Ends With Us also came out opening to 45M+ as a female centered blockbuster.
The fact that Jurassic World: D is on that list, makes the list feel valueless.
Or more likely I don't understand the business. Horrible movies make billions, and stock-buy-backs are more popular than jesus. Drink your ovaltine.
People love dinosaurs. Jurassic world was entertaining. It wasn't remotely realistic but entertaining.
I'd heard some negative things about this movie on Tildes, but the IMDb score is really high - 8.1 - even in an MCU-fatigued world. So I'll probably go and see it, but I'd appreciate more personal reviews from people that have seen this movie.
I had a fun time. If you like Deadpool and the whole Ryan Reynolds/Hugh Jackman vibe, you'll like the movie. It does the things, gives you the cameos and is just a fun ride.
It's not deep, it's not saying something poignant, it's crass and delightfully dumb.
Considering how sick everyone is of the MCU this is the only kind of film I could see working at the moment.
It makes fun of that too. I'm not sick of the MCU so I can't really speak for those people.
I enjoyed it enough, but I'm sure tons of the in-jokes flew past my head as I am simply not that much of a comic book nerd.
Yeah I think it does ok at having Easter eggs for the people in the know and being funny for the people who aren't.
If you liked the first two, you'll love this.
It's not Great Cinema, but you'll be happier having seen the movie. There are good multi-level jokes, cameos you won't see coming (unless you've already been spoiled) and just all around good time.
I liked the first two Deadpool’s and hated this so…
Care to elaborate why? @teaearlgraycold was asking for reviews, after all.
Here are my thoughts on it during the discussion thread
Thanks
I guess I'm confused by your opinion that the story was a "non-factor," since the story is that this Deadpool's timeline is about to get the sleep by a rogue TVA employee, who is solely interested in climbing the ranks as fast as possible. That's a pretty big motivating factor imo. I do believe it could have had more meat on it's bones, but since the story is one that has to do with infinite realities, wouldn't it make sense that they add color with the characters that show up? I assume you're saying you'd rather they build interesting characters around Pool and Wolverine, instead of shuck in old Marvel failures for the lol's, but since those characters were inevitably going to die, why not have some fun fan service character redemption?
All in all, I didn't go to it expecting to see something good, I went to it to see something fun and I feel like it delivered. I have enough blockbusters with insane CGI and impeccable writing, I like casual fun and this hit the spot. Even more so, the main character is a walking-talking-grating-meme, in the comics and the movies. I can't begrudge the walking meme for being too meme'y, ya know?
Not really. It’s interesting how many people make this separation of something being good or something being fun. Movies can be both. Top Gun: Maverick exists, Dungeons and Dragons, the Mission Impossible franchise, the Guardians of the Galaxy movies, the first phase of the MCU.
I don’t really understand where this framework came from that a movie has to be either or.
An issue with Deadpool and Wolverine’s story catalyst is that it never feels real. Even if it is end of the world nothing ever really feels at stake. It’s pretty weak character motivation and feels less emotionally involved than Wade’s motivation in both Deadpool and Deadpool 2 which involved the loss of his love interest.
And again, I’m not a comic book nerd. So these cameos mean nothing to me. But I think it’s very lazy for a movie to rely solely on your nostalgia to make something “fun.” Spider-Man No Way Home was also a lot of fan service but the way the story works, it feels a lot more natural for the inclusion of the villains and Maguire and Garfield. So it can be done right, it’s just not done well here.
But, I wasn't making the argument that a movie can't be both, I was making the argument that a movie can be one of those things. Yes, movies can be fun and good, but can't they just be fun or just be good? 12 Years a Slave isn't fun, but it's good. So yeah, I just felt like the movie took itself as seriously as the main character and in this particular character's case, being fan-service-y and nerdy is pretty on brand. It's fine that you didn't like it, I just took issue with that part of your review.
I guess, sure. But in this metaphor if we take a serious drama that isn't good are people gonna be like "well it's not good but it brings up very serious issues." I don't think so. For me it's hard to have fun with a movie that's not good, especially when it's supposed to be centered around spectacle and it's just not good at that part.
Both Deadpool and Deadpool 2 are well-written and have well shot and edited action. So I still don't understand why people had this lowered expectation for Deadpool & Wolverine.
And again, this would make sense if Deadpool and Deadpool 2 didn't exist. I wouldn't say there was much fan service in either of those two. Deadpool as a character is self-aware but that to me doesn't translate to fan service. References to James McAvoy and Patrick Stewart, or calling Brolin Thanos isn't the same as literally stopping the film to have three different characters walk in with the expectation of people cheering in the theater.
The movie's very meta in a creative way, about the premise itself, and about the history of the things its referencing. If you know the trivia about the history and development of Marvel movies that get brought up, it's hilarious. And the less you get spoiled, the better. Then Reynolds and Jackman have great chemistry throughout the film as well.
But, trying not to spoil to much, it has a typical modern superhero problem where the stakes seemed way too high for what the movie felt like it should've had, and seemed like such a big problem was resolved so easily. Ant Man Quantumania is another example.
Another modern MCU problem it has is referencing one of the Disney+ shows which many viewers haven't seen (Loki in this case). You don't really NEED to have watched Loki to understand the movie, though.
If you're MCU-fatigued, I would still recommend seeing it. It's not really the same as seeing a generic MCU movie. It has a few of those flaws but it really doesn't matter.
can you comment simple yes/no on if Morena Baccarin's character [edit: Wade's girlfriend, Vanessa] is indeed alive in their universe? I was so crushed when they killed her in deadpool 2.
She's fine.
Yeah she is.
She's alive and has lines in the movie but she doesn't actually do anything.
Great! That's all I needed, really
Did you not watch the post credit scenes in DP2? They answered it pretty clearly in the same movie they "killed her" in.
I must not have! Did I leave the theatre real quick? Oh wow okay going back to watch it thanks!
Here you go! Enjoy!
https://youtu.be/lDrCCef6n-U
It's unnecessary, but if you go in expecting "Deadpool roasts the Marvel Cinematic Universe, then partakes in all the MCU tropes" you'll probably have a good time. There's not a lot of character for him or Wolverine to work with, but it's a lot of two dudes dudeing, key jangling, and remember that guy from the movie.
In my opinion it's mostly a "Reddit movie", like member berries in south park the whole shtick is making the viewer feel cool because they're "in" on a joke they need context to understand. The humour is either fart and butts level or solely based on callbacks.
The action is really cool though. And that's what the whole point was, the reason for a wolverine X Deadpool movie is to get to see them doing cool stuff (we could have gotten more batshit fun things like gambit empowering wolverines skeleton like in the cartoon)
If you judge it by what it was trying to be then it did it's job. It specifically talks about letting old ideas "die" and giving things an actual end, not keep rebooting stories by relying on the all mighty multiverse.
Our whole world is memberberries now.
Great to indulge in even when you're.loving through it, but depressing when you realise that it's only the past that sells.
The humor is very similar to the first two, so if you liked that part, you'll be happy here. The story is a lot more "meta" and really breaks the fourth wall. There is a lot of cameos. If you saw the last Spiderman movie, it feels a lot like that, but R rated. It comes across as a love letter to all of the Fox owned Marvel movies, but in a very on the nose way. The story is some really generic multiverse stuff that I think is emotionally carried by both stars continuing to be perfectly cast. If you are generally positive about the whole cinematic universe, you'll probably get something out of it. If you haven't been watching from day one it probably sucks.
8.1 is 100% undeserved. That would make it the best Deadpool film (it is not) and tied with Logan for the best Wolverine film (it is not).
There are good things about it (including an amazing title sequence), but the plot is contrived, the main villain is weak, and a large part of the film is just pure fan service. Fans like fan service, I guess.
Recommended homework before watching it: Watch Loki, and read a lot of classic X-men comics. You don't really need to have seen the first two Deadpool films.
If you do watch it, make sure to stay for the post-credit scene. It actually solved one of my minor issues with the film.
If you're pressed for time and can't read too many of the classic X-Men comics, Deadpool and Cable and the Deadpool video game should get you most of the way there.
But then you'll miss out on...
spoilers
...all the references to classic X-men comics in the montage where Deadpool traverses the multiverse looking for a suitable Wolverine. And I assume evil female Professor X is also something from the comics.The plot doesn't really matter. There's a bad guy, and he creates a conflict, and then the conflict is resolved, and the specifics of those things don't make very much sense but like, don't worry about it. They're a vehicle for jokes and cameos. That's what I went in looking for, so I enjoyed it. If you can get yourself into that frame of mind, you might, too.
I saw someone refer to this movie as a "soulless cash grab", and I thought, Deadpool properties don't really need soul. It's nice when they have it, and there should usually be at least a little bit of heart at some point, but what they really need is spirit. In my opinion, this movie was definitely very spirited. I belly laughed quite a few times, and the fan service felt very considered, if not at all judicious.
I thoroughly enjoyed it. As an avid comic fan in my youth, I felt like it took seriously the things it needed to take seriously while not taking seriously the things it didn’t need to take seriously. It knows what it is and doesn’t try to shy away from the fact that it’s mostly fan service but it’s also not just cameo after cameo for the sake of having cameos. You can tell that the people involved, especially Ryan and Hugh, have a deep appreciation for the source material but also keenly understand what makes movies entertaining. It doesn’t surprise me at all that it’s been so successful.
We just saw it yesterday and enjoyed it. If you don't like the Deadpool character/concept, you won't like this one either. But I thought it was overall a fun movie, even if the overall plot line was a little cheesy. One thing that stuck out for me in a positive way was the music. I usually don't notice music in movies but really enjoyed the soundtrack from this one.
Personally, I found the movie extremely off-putting. I cannot understand what people like about it. I admit I did go in with low expectations, but then it managed to go lower than that. The narrative barely holds together, almost none of the jokes landed for me, and I think the fight scenes each dragged on for far too long.
My biggest peeve with the film however is that is treats its gay characters poorly. Attraction between men is only used as a punchline. The two gay characters also happen to be the two fat characters, which is also played for laughs.
It just comes across as incredibly mean spirited to punch down at marginalised groups like this.
Who's the gay characters you're referring to? I'm fully blanking.
Click to expand spoiler.
Negasonic and Yukio were only given bit parts in this one, but weren't played for laughs. Same with Dopinder and Shatterstar... I didn't think they're fat, and until I googled, I didn't catch the implied relationship.
Deadpool is canonically queer (pan), and explicitly attracted to Wolverine (and when he's an adult, Spiderman), but the jokes from him never hit me in a queerphobic way. Not sure if there's a reason why it didn't but the jokes coming from a queer person don't land with the same negative vibe usually. So maybe that's why it didn't bug me? Or maybe it's because nothing is serious in the movie.
I also didn't know who they were taking about at first, but I think they were referring to the guy checking out Deadpool's ass after he got the new suit.
Hmm I guess. They did play the woman's attraction to Wolverine for the same level of laughs. And there were other queer people. I didn't even take it that way since the dude was calling HR due to being harassed himself. But YMMV.
I'm not saying there's good rep, it's Disney rep so it's minor but I didn't read it the way the PP did.
I was referring to Peter and the recurring TVA clerk in particular, but now that you mention it, it it's also disappointing that Negasonic and Yukio barely have a sentence each.
I think I'd be more willing to stomach it if the movie truly took nothing seriously, but Wade's relationship with Vanessa is treated as though it's holy, even though they've broken up. There aren't any (as far as I remember) jokes made at the expense of this relationship because it's between a man and a woman which is acceptable in the eyes of the filmmakers. In comparison, same-sex attraction is always played as a joke (Deadpool making people uncomfortable, the only fat people being gay, the lesbian couple from last film being largely ignored).
Got it. I didn't take it that way but I get why you did. While I think the societal homophobia is why the relationship he'd do anything for is nominally a "het" relationship. I also appreciated it was about his broader "family" not just about saving her. I think they do make some jokes but it's relatively minimal in this one since she's not in most of the movie.
Anyway, I get it even if I didn't have the same vibes.
Negasonic, Yukio, Vanessa and all the other characters from the first two films aren't on the sidelines because of any intended slight at anyone. They're sidelined because we've had them for two films already and this film is primarily about DP and WV. That's why the film is called Deadpool and Wolverine and not Deadpool 3.
Everyone is so quick to read into things when it's not a big deal. They were going for something different with this one, which is pretty obvious.
Also Deadpool has been making gay jokes and making people uncomfortable since the first film, it's part of his character. He firmly grasps Colossus's butt in DP2 and later tries to pull his pants down to give him a BJ. He has a lot of quips throughout all three films of similar fashion and with the intent to make people uncomfortable (the characters not the audience).
No one has taken issue with it until now.
That's not true. There have been folks unhappy with the "he's queer but like not really because that's too much for the public so just gay/pegging jokes" the entire time.
I feel like you've missed the point of my comment. I might put up with one of those elements, but together it makes a pretty clear trend of homophobia in Deadpool and that's not something I want to view or support.
I don't think pointing out the first two films were also homophobic helps your argument.
I don't think any of it is homophobic, and I think too much is being read into/over analyzed with these things. Deadpool is surface level humor, there's no deeper meaning here.
They didn't sideline characters because they were gay, they sidelined them for the plot.
I'm sick of this mentality that everything has a deeper meaning to slight a certain group of people. No they're trying to tell a story. Nothing should be above the story. Any project that focuses on social issues over story always fails. They told an amazing story, that was the focus. They weren't thinking "let's put these characters in the background because they're gay!" No they did it with all the characters to focus on the story.
And queer people are allowed to not like how a movie handles queer characters or jokes. I don't think there was an "amazing story" in Deadpool. It focused on jokes and bits, and again, I liked it, but it's not a high quality deep story. It doesn't handle queerness well, I just don't think it did as badly as @ludexMiku . That's fine though, queer people are also allowed to disagree about it. The sidelined characters were not the point of their original comment. It is frustrating when queer characters get sidelined, and even though basically all of the past characters got sidelined, it's a "oh yeah and THAT TOO" cherry on top.
This is just "Go Woke Go Broke" repackaged. And it's convenient because it has no real measurement. Any movie I cite would obviously have had good story, and movie that you cite obviously focused on social issues.
They should know better at this point. I'm sure someone had to have brought it up at some point
you and me both but if the critical and box office success indicates anything, we are in the minority.
although my biggest peeve wasn't that his handling of jokes about gay characters, just that he would not stop making jokes and I like comicbook movies where I can connect to the characters.
and Ryan Reynolds is more interested in making jokes every 3 seconds and roasting the MCU :shrug: