46 votes

Dune - Official trailer

53 comments

  1. [2]
    CALICO
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    I think.. I'll allow myself to get excited now. If I have to find a criticism: I don't love the veil on the Revered Mother. But that's about it. Reasonable minds may differ, but the aesthetic of...

    I think.. I'll allow myself to get excited now.

    If I have to find a criticism: I don't love the veil on the Revered Mother. But that's about it.
    Reasonable minds may differ, but the aesthetic of everything feels so on point. Everything looks the way it ought to. The vocals of the characters feels right. The delivery feels right. And the cinematography looks to be a real treat. Even if the screenplay or the pacing fucks up the end product, I think it's safe to predict that this movie is going to be the most indulgent of eye-candy, at a minimum.

    Also, how awesome was the slow, haunting rendition of Pink Floyd's Eclipse? Chills.

    23 votes
    1. NoblePath
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      I share your reaction completely.

      I share your reaction completely.

      2 votes
  2. [11]
    godless
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    Generally I avoid trailers now, but this is Dune. I have read the books several times, and watched the Lynch version a few times, so I'm pretty sure I'm not going to get spoilers. The look, the...

    Generally I avoid trailers now, but this is Dune. I have read the books several times, and watched the Lynch version a few times, so I'm pretty sure I'm not going to get spoilers.

    The look, the feel and sound seem on point. Some of the lines in the trailer hit the wrong note for me, "What's in the box?", but I'm thinking that's trailer editing pulling the lines out of context.

    Continued cautious optimism.

    9 votes
    1. [10]
      RapidEyeMovement
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      I loved the visuals of the Lynch's Dune. (Its what I grew up on, and I saw that Way Way before I read the book(s)). But I am 'cautiously optimistic' as well.

      I loved the visuals of the Lynch's Dune. (Its what I grew up on, and I saw that Way Way before I read the book(s)). But I am 'cautiously optimistic' as well.

      4 votes
      1. [9]
        mat
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        Taking this opportunity to mention, just in case people haven't heard, the fanedit of Lynch's film which is snappily titled Dune the Alternative Edition: Redux and is well worth seeking out. It's...

        Taking this opportunity to mention, just in case people haven't heard, the fanedit of Lynch's film which is snappily titled Dune the Alternative Edition: Redux and is well worth seeking out. It's supposedly based on Lynch's original shooting script rather than the butchered mess the studio made him edit his film down to. It's a very different, and much, much better film. Personally I consider it the canonical Dune movie so far.

        8 votes
        1. [5]
          skyfaller
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          Great, another elusive fanedit that I'll spend the rest of my life trying to hunt down. I still haven't gotten my hands on the theatrical release of the original Star Wars trilogy, which...

          Great, another elusive fanedit that I'll spend the rest of my life trying to hunt down. I still haven't gotten my hands on the theatrical release of the original Star Wars trilogy, which apparently has an fanedit floating around the internet.

          3 votes
          1. [2]
            krg
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            Harmy's Despecialized! There's also the 4K77 version. The torrents are out there...

            Harmy's Despecialized! There's also the 4K77 version. The torrents are out there...

            7 votes
            1. NoblePath
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              I’m proud to report my kids first av exposure to star wars is this despecialized edition which is a restoration worthy of all the awards. Alas that i could not fikter all the corollary exposure.

              I’m proud to report my kids first av exposure to star wars is this despecialized edition which is a restoration worthy of all the awards.

              Alas that i could not fikter all the corollary exposure.

              2 votes
          2. [2]
            jdhawk
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            here, but you need to be outside the US. VPN connection through the Netherlands works fine.
            • Exemplary

            here, but you need to be outside the US. VPN connection through the Netherlands works fine.

            4 votes
            1. cfabbro
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              Just finished watching that. It was bloody great. Thanks!

              Just finished watching that. It was bloody great. Thanks!

        2. [3]
          skyfaller
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          Suppose someone acquires this fanedit and hasn't read the books or seen any Dune films/TV. What should they do first? Read the books? Watch this movie?

          Suppose someone acquires this fanedit and hasn't read the books or seen any Dune films/TV. What should they do first? Read the books? Watch this movie?

          1. PahoojyMan
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            Read the books (at least the first one, but you realistically won't be able to put them down until maybe God Emperor). Dune requires almost constant narration to explain the subtle minutiae of...

            Read the books (at least the first one, but you realistically won't be able to put them down until maybe God Emperor).

            Dune requires almost constant narration to explain the subtle minutiae of every action of every moment to truly appreciate why things are important. For this you need the books.

            After that, you will understand the lore, the setting and characters' motivations/plots, and everything will be much more enjoyable.

            3 votes
          2. mat
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            I would say watch the movie. I saw the terrible TV edit of the movie before reading the book and it was OK. The longer fanedit might leave you a bit lost in some places but it should hold together...

            I would say watch the movie. I saw the terrible TV edit of the movie before reading the book and it was OK. The longer fanedit might leave you a bit lost in some places but it should hold together alright and you should get a good sense of the much longer and more intricate story told in the book.

            Then read the book(s). The ones written by Frank Herbert are the True Dune, the ones written by his son are more numerous and much less good but do have some nice backstory for the Dune universe.

            1 vote
  3. mat
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    It looks good in the sense that nothing appears glaringly wrong. But it's easy to make three good looking minutes out of any film, so I'm not getting excited yet. Some nice nods to Lynch's film in...

    It looks good in the sense that nothing appears glaringly wrong. But it's easy to make three good looking minutes out of any film, so I'm not getting excited yet. Some nice nods to Lynch's film in there, which was good to see. I like the repulsor-wearing Sardukar. I'm already missing Roger Deakins' genius with the cinematography, he really really should have been working on this. The colour grading looks pretty poor, but there could be a plan for that through the entire movie which wouldn't work in a trailer.

    Can someone please take the paaaarp machine out of Hans Zimmer's hands? I'm really hoping that is in the trailer as a joke and the actual film will be scored more imaginatively.

    6 votes
  4. [4]
    vegai
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    This did not spark anything in me. It looked like any other bland modern sci-fi film. Judging by this, it will feature action and eyecandy, not much soul. Slightly irritating that they cowered...

    This did not spark anything in me. It looked like any other bland modern sci-fi film. Judging by this, it will feature action and eyecandy, not much soul. Slightly irritating that they cowered away from the word "jihad". I hope they didn't otherwise mangle the Fremen.

    The books (especially the first one) are great, though. Everyone needs to read the first one at least.

    6 votes
    1. Awoo
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      The jihad change to crusade is probably good news. Religious war being a bad thing to be avoided in the context of the story would shoot over the heads of the american audience that this is...

      The jihad change to crusade is probably good news. Religious war being a bad thing to be avoided in the context of the story would shoot over the heads of the american audience that this is targeted at if the word jihad is used. Their response would be "haha right jihad bad!" whereas crusade on the other hand has become a word embraced and encouraged among far-right groups. It has more potential to do good in terms of its influence on the audience and basically means the same thing. The fact they're an obvious reference for middle eastern petro-states won't be lost through just this word.

      7 votes
    2. [2]
      ThatLinuxUser
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      At least one reason to get hyped is that the director of the movie has credited Dune as a massive influence in his work and has often called this his dream project. Besides that, yeah I kind of...

      At least one reason to get hyped is that the director of the movie has credited Dune as a massive influence in his work and has often called this his dream project. Besides that, yeah I kind of agree, if it is good this trailer doesn't do it justice.

      5 votes
      1. PahoojyMan
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        The optimist in me wants to believe that this is because they are trying to draw in the casual moviegoer with a quick cut trailer to entice them. They don't need to work as hard to sell the movie...

        The optimist in me wants to believe that this is because they are trying to draw in the casual moviegoer with a quick cut trailer to entice them. They don't need to work as hard to sell the movie to Dune fans.

        6 votes
  5. [7]
    FishFingus
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    I hope the film itself isn't that dark. I dislike the Mines of Moria lighting levels that directors like Ron Howard go for. Turn the damn lights on, Ron.

    I hope the film itself isn't that dark. I dislike the Mines of Moria lighting levels that directors like Ron Howard go for. Turn the damn lights on, Ron.

    5 votes
    1. [6]
      Erik
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      It really depends on your monitor, the delivery method and more things like that. One of the big things a lot of compression codecs do to make files smaller is crush the darks into black so...

      It really depends on your monitor, the delivery method and more things like that. One of the big things a lot of compression codecs do to make files smaller is crush the darks into black so there's less information to send off. This can make a lot of films look much darker than the director, colorist and/or cinematographer were going for. I agree that there is some pretty crushed darks in here, but since this is YouTube, it's tough to say if that's on the director or just on the delivery codec and rebroadcast.

      8 votes
      1. [3]
        mrbig
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        Even in the movie theater I do not trust the judgement of most projectionists. Some films still get too dark even there.

        Even in the movie theater I do not trust the judgement of most projectionists. Some films still get too dark even there.

        3 votes
        1. Erik
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          100%. Most projection is done by a part timer that just really needs a job. They just flip the ON switch on a digital projector. The days of film buffs in love with doing proper film presentation...

          100%. Most projection is done by a part timer that just really needs a job. They just flip the ON switch on a digital projector. The days of film buffs in love with doing proper film presentation on a celluloid projector are largely behind us. I live in a fairly large city, but there's only one theater nearby where I can see celluloid film projection, and even then it's considered a special event.

          5 votes
        2. NoblePath
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          Alamo drafthouse handles this fairly well.

          Alamo drafthouse handles this fairly well.

      2. [2]
        FishFingus
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        Oh god, that's way above my pay grade. I'm going to try it on another site and see how it looks there. EDIT: Does this one seem brighter to anyone else?

        Oh god, that's way above my pay grade. I'm going to try it on another site and see how it looks there.

        EDIT: Does this one seem brighter to anyone else?

        1 vote
        1. Erik
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          haha, in all fairness, most directors/colorists/dps should be making film to be seen over YouTube on a laptop in mind at least at this point because that's how their film is going to be seen by...

          haha, in all fairness, most directors/colorists/dps should be making film to be seen over YouTube on a laptop in mind at least at this point because that's how their film is going to be seen by most people. Dune may be an exception, when you have this type of budget and studio backing, you can expect some theatrical frills.

          But, the best sound mixer I ever worked with did amazing mixes in perfectly set-up acoustic rooms. However, his final tweaks he did by taking the mix out to his car and listening to it through his shitty factory install sound system because he knew that most people would be hearing it more that way.

          6 votes
  6. [9]
    krg
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    Well...it looks like a block-buster sci-fi movie... Though, I have a feeling this'll flop. I think the source material is just too obscure for casual movie goers. I'm a fan of Denis Villeneuve,...

    Well...it looks like a block-buster sci-fi movie... Though, I have a feeling this'll flop. I think the source material is just too obscure for casual movie goers.

    I'm a fan of Denis Villeneuve, and I kinda hope it does flop so he goes back to smaller films with less baggage. Then again, Blade Runner 2049 didn't do too well and here he is.

    4 votes
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      drannex
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      I would argue that BR2049 did phenomenally well, I remember an interview from an executive from before the movie was out where they said that their goal was to break even or even just below it....

      I would argue that BR2049 did phenomenally well, I remember an interview from an executive from before the movie was out where they said that their goal was to break even or even just below it.

      They made a profit ($150-180m Budget, with $110M as net revenue - total of $260M box office), and they will continue to make profits with the new anime coming out, the books, the comics, and the general merchandise that continues to sell.

      I have high hopes for this because Villeneuve hasn't proven me wrong, and BR2049 is evidence that he can't make a flop even when it's anticipated.

      8 votes
      1. krg
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        For the record, I really enjoyed Blade Runner 2049. It was so damn melancholic and reserved and, still, somehow grandiose about it... But, if you click on my link, you'll read this:

        For the record, I really enjoyed Blade Runner 2049. It was so damn melancholic and reserved and, still, somehow grandiose about it...

        But, if you click on my link, you'll read this:

        The projected worldwide total the film needed to gross in order to break even was estimated to be around $400 million, and in November 2017 The Hollywood Reporter wrote that the film was expected to lose the studio as much as $80 million.

        2 votes
    2. [6]
      parsley
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      Yeah it looks very ...correct? I'm not sure it will flop... but I have the feeling it will come and go and no one will remember it happened once it is out of the cinemas (or whatever they do with...

      Yeah it looks very ...correct? I'm not sure it will flop... but I have the feeling it will come and go and no one will remember it happened once it is out of the cinemas (or whatever they do with covid).

      I think that what makes the dune saga amazing is the world building. The trailer is missing a lot of non-action stuff and is very centered on how angsty-cool paul is and how grandiose his struggle will be.

      I really want to be wrong about this, but I'm not hopeful about the movie.

      3 votes
      1. [5]
        krg
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        On re-watch of the trailer... it looks absolutely average. Of course, that's based on specifically selected footage cut in a way to garner audience interest... but, hopefully, it takes more risks...

        On re-watch of the trailer... it looks absolutely average. Of course, that's based on specifically selected footage cut in a way to garner audience interest... but, hopefully, it takes more risks than what is shown.

        I think the familial melodrama aspect of Dune would've made it ripe for some kinda Game of Thrones-style series. Played the right way, that would def be a hit.

        3 votes
        1. [4]
          mat
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          I think Dune deserves to be a TV series. Movies are OK but they suck at telling big stories and Dune is nothing if not a massive story. General rule of thumb is that adaptatons of short stories...

          I think Dune deserves to be a TV series. Movies are OK but they suck at telling big stories and Dune is nothing if not a massive story. General rule of thumb is that adaptatons of short stories should be films, actual novels should be TV.

          It would be such an easy pitch too - "it's Game of Thrones in space and the series already has an* ending" - then the only problem would be avoiding the massive wads of cash HBO were throwing at you..

          * I know, it's pretty sketchy by the end but it does end. Easiest way is to just film the first trilogy though.

          5 votes
          1. [3]
            skullkid2424
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            I personally like the sci-fi mini series version better than the previous movies, so definitely could see it as a good TV series.

            I personally like the sci-fi mini series version better than the previous movies, so definitely could see it as a good TV series.

            3 votes
            1. [2]
              mat
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              The SciFi channel version is OK. It sticks to the books pretty well, but it suffers from that early 2000s SciFi channel thing where everything looks too clean, too bright and a bit cheap. As far...

              The SciFi channel version is OK. It sticks to the books pretty well, but it suffers from that early 2000s SciFi channel thing where everything looks too clean, too bright and a bit cheap. As far as I can tell they filmed everything on a consumer camcorder back then. I think if they'd had ten times the budget they would have done an amazing job.

              See my comment just up the page about the Spicediver fanedit of Lynch's film. In my opinion that's the best onscreen Dune so far.

              2 votes
              1. skullkid2424
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                I'll have to give it a shot...I found the original movie horribly lacking in comparison to the scifi series. Though part of that would be 1980s level effects not scaling well.

                I'll have to give it a shot...I found the original movie horribly lacking in comparison to the scifi series. Though part of that would be 1980s level effects not scaling well.

  7. [4]
    zptc
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    It's been a long time since I read Dune, but I thought the premise of the personal shields was a slow-moving blade is able to penetrate them? This just looked like standard movie martial arts to me.

    It's been a long time since I read Dune, but I thought the premise of the personal shields was a slow-moving blade is able to penetrate them? This just looked like standard movie martial arts to me.

    3 votes
    1. onyxleopard
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      From what I recall (I read the books a long time ago), the sort of fighting that Paul practices with one-on-one combat using shield generators and daggers, includes mixed-martial arts in order to...

      From what I recall (I read the books a long time ago), the sort of fighting that Paul practices with one-on-one combat using shield generators and daggers, includes mixed-martial arts in order to get the opponent in a position where you could initiate an attack with a blade at a slow enough speed to penetrate the opponent’s shield. That is, the final shield penetration with a blade would necessarily be slow (anything else would be deflected or blocked by the shield), but the actions up to that point in terms of getting into position and preparing such a move could be very athletic. One can imagine it’s easier to perform a slow attack after you’ve knocked your opponent down, or put them in a hold of some sort, or otherwise disabled them.

      The practice scene with Paul and Gurney in the Lynch version depicts many fast moves before the blades penetrate, and I don’t think Dune fans generally censure this particular scene.

      10 votes
    2. [2]
      Valarauka
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      IIRC, shields were intended to stop bullets and other fast-moving objects; in hand to hand combat against a shielded opponent you essentially need to "hesitate" for a split second right at the...

      IIRC, shields were intended to stop bullets and other fast-moving objects; in hand to hand combat against a shielded opponent you essentially need to "hesitate" for a split second right at the shield boundary but the rest of your combat motions will be just as fast as a regular knife fight. Doesn't mean the whole fight will turn into some kind of slow ballet.

      The hard part will be explaining that visually; in the book you have the benefit of reading Paul's thought processes during combat.

      5 votes
      1. mat
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        If I remember rightly, in Lynch's film during the training scene Thufir says "the slow blade penetrates the shield" (which I think is a direct quote from the book) and then we get a demo from...

        The hard part will be explaining that visually;

        If I remember rightly, in Lynch's film during the training scene Thufir says "the slow blade penetrates the shield" (which I think is a direct quote from the book) and then we get a demo from Gurney pushing his knife through Paul's shield.

        4 votes
  8. nothis
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    After what Denis Villeneuve managed to do with the Dune franchise, I trust him with anything. I knew this would be great and the trailer looks fucking fantastic.

    After what Denis Villeneuve managed to do with the Dune franchise, I trust him with anything. I knew this would be great and the trailer looks fucking fantastic.

    2 votes
  9. [2]
    Ellimist
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    I've never read the Dune book(s?) but as a general sci fi fan, this looks very interesting. It'll definitely get a watch from me, some point

    I've never read the Dune book(s?) but as a general sci fi fan, this looks very interesting.

    It'll definitely get a watch from me, some point

    2 votes
    1. cfabbro
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      If you're a fan of scifi you really should do yourself a favor and give the Dune series a read. It's my favorite scifi series by far. Just fair warning though, it gets a lot more deeply...

      If you're a fan of scifi you really should do yourself a favor and give the Dune series a read. It's my favorite scifi series by far. Just fair warning though, it gets a lot more deeply philosophical and esoteric in nature as it goes on, so as a result most people recommend stopping after Children of Dune, even though I actually prefer the later books... but to each their own.

      p.s. The Dune books by Brain Herbert (Frank's son) are decent too, though the quality of writing definitely diminishes significantly and they lean more towards being pulp scifi than the originals.

      1 vote
  10. [5]
    RiveGauche
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    This trailer looks amazing. I can't wait for this movie!

    This trailer looks amazing. I can't wait for this movie!

    1 vote
    1. [4]
      nsz
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      I thought they were making a TV show? Did I miss something here?

      I thought they were making a TV show? Did I miss something here?

      1 vote
      1. [2]
        CALICO
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        Villeneuve is not only directing this film—covering the first half of Dune 1965—but is involved with Dune: The Sisterhood, which will be a show focusing on the Bene Gesserit.

        Villeneuve is not only directing this film—covering the first half of Dune 1965—but is involved with Dune: The Sisterhood, which will be a show focusing on the Bene Gesserit.

        4 votes
        1. nsz
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          I see, thanks. That's exciting, hope it all turns out good.

          I see, thanks. That's exciting, hope it all turns out good.

          1 vote
      2. RiveGauche
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        I learned something new here as well. I didn't even realize they were making a tv series from it too!

        I learned something new here as well. I didn't even realize they were making a tv series from it too!

        1 vote
  11. [7]
    Parameter
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    This is a little off-topic but has anyone ever read game of thrones and dune (+ sequels)? I heard that George R.R. Martin was inspired by dune and noticed a lot of similar characteristics. The...

    This is a little off-topic but has anyone ever read game of thrones and dune (+ sequels)?

    I heard that George R.R. Martin was inspired by dune and noticed a lot of similar characteristics. The best one is that dune features this strange, clever, "mismatched" dwarf character that is all but named Tyrion. I forget any others at the moment.

    1 vote
    1. [6]
      onyxleopard
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      A massive overarching plot based around a struggle of noble houses? Check. Lots of violence and sex. Check. Detailed world-building including fictional languages, locations, cultures, and...

      A massive overarching plot based around a struggle of noble houses? Check. Lots of violence and sex. Check. Detailed world-building including fictional languages, locations, cultures, and religions? Check. Magic? Check.

      The A Song of Ice and Fire universe is easily comparable to a high fantasy Dune. The main difference will be that Martin has no children to continue the series when he dies.

      3 votes
      1. [5]
        cfabbro
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        My fingers are crossed for Brandon Sanderson taking over for GRRM once he dies, just like he did for Robert Jordan's Wheel of Time series.

        The main difference will be that Martin has no children to continue the series when he dies.

        My fingers are crossed for Brandon Sanderson taking over for GRRM once he dies, just like he did for Robert Jordan's Wheel of Time series.

        2 votes
        1. [4]
          grungegun
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          I tried WoT, but failed to finish the second book. I've read a bit of Sanderson (Words of Radiance). What of his do you recommend? His plot/writing strikes me as fine, but a bit mechanical, so I'm...

          I tried WoT, but failed to finish the second book. I've read a bit of Sanderson (Words of Radiance). What of his do you recommend? His plot/writing strikes me as fine, but a bit mechanical, so I'm trying to find something which puts him in the best light.

          1 vote
          1. cfabbro
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            LOL, yeah, WoT can really be a slog to get through. Jordan could ramble on about the most mundane crap for chapters at a time, and even several of the later books barely advanced the plot at all,...

            LOL, yeah, WoT can really be a slog to get through. Jordan could ramble on about the most mundane crap for chapters at a time, and even several of the later books barely advanced the plot at all, which is why I very much appreciated when the pace picked back up again after Sanderson took over.

            If you're looking for a good intro to Sanderson's work you really can't go wrong with Mistborn, IMO. It was the first thing I read of his after finishing WoT, and I personally prefer it to Stormlight Archive anyways.

            1 vote
          2. [2]
            CALICO
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            The Stormlight Archive is his strongest work, but those books are dense & complex and asking somebody to make that kind of commitment without having built up any good faith prior... it's a big...

            The Stormlight Archive is his strongest work, but those books are dense & complex and asking somebody to make that kind of commitment without having built up any good faith prior... it's a big ask.

            I'll second Mistborn. Book one (The Final Empire) is part of a trilogy, however it's also entirely self-contained and can be read as a standalone with no issue. The characters are fun, and the world is different from your average fantasy.
            One sentence pitch: Mistborn is a heist story in a world where the Dark Lord won.

            Did you only read Words of Radiance? That's a Book 2.

            1 vote
            1. grungegun
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              I read The Way of Kings too. I just couldn't remember the title - Words of Radiance was the one I saw as being most recommended.

              I read The Way of Kings too. I just couldn't remember the title - Words of Radiance was the one I saw as being most recommended.