Be careful with Lemmy 3rd party apps. Unless something has changed very recently, Lemmy does not implement OAuth, so you'll have to provide your credentials directly in the app, with all the risks...
Be careful with Lemmy 3rd party apps.
Unless something has changed very recently, Lemmy does not implement OAuth, so you'll have to provide your credentials directly in the app, with all the risks that involves. Their MFA implementation is also utterly broken, don't try to activate it if you don't want to risk getting locked out of your account.
If you don't trust an app, you simply shouldn't install it. Oauth doesn't fix this issue, rather than logging credentials they can instead display a phishing page with a genuine looking Oauth...
Unless something has changed very recently, Lemmy does not implement OAuth, so you'll have to provide your credentials directly in the app, with all the risks that involves
If you don't trust an app, you simply shouldn't install it. Oauth doesn't fix this issue, rather than logging credentials they can instead display a phishing page with a genuine looking Oauth screen that logs credentials when you login.
The app should open my browser on a page I'm likely already logged in, that will display the name of my Lemmy instance, and will ask me to approve the connection. If my browser opens...
The app should open my browser on a page I'm likely already logged in, that will display the name of my Lemmy instance, and will ask me to approve the connection.
If my browser opens totallyn0tascam.xyz for me to login, I'll probably think something is fishy.
Also, supply chain attacks are a thing, and can happen to the most legit apps. So I'd rather not give my credentials to any app when there's well established technical solutions to avoid it. It's all about reducing the attack surface area.
My Instance is sh.itjust.works, and I know of another user from another instance who had the same issues. you can't activate MFA on desktop because it wants to open an app (like authy) with a...
My Instance is sh.itjust.works, and I know of another user from another instance who had the same issues.
you can't activate MFA on desktop because it wants to open an app (like authy) with a specific URI scheme
it doesn't ask for a token to confirm activation
when I tried to login after activating it, the token was systematically refused
fortunately I was still logged in on my phone, so I deactivated MFA.
I've got 5 Lemmy clients installed (Liftoff!, Jerboa, Connect, Summit and WefWef) and do not believe any of them collect and share data. Also, no in-app purchases. I have to double check to be...
I've got 5 Lemmy clients installed (Liftoff!, Jerboa, Connect, Summit and WefWef) and do not believe any of them collect and share data. Also, no in-app purchases.
I have to double check to be sure (on mobile).
According to Google Play, Boost seems to do all three things... collect, share device information. They also have in-app purchases. I'm sure it's a great app but...
On a positive.. Wow! The amount of Lemmy clients in development speaks volumes. Lemmy is here to stay.
I used Boost for Reddit before and I think this is the dev trying to salvage his app. I think the reason why Boost collects and shares data is because of the ads on the free version of the app....
I used Boost for Reddit before and I think this is the dev trying to salvage his app. I think the reason why Boost collects and shares data is because of the ads on the free version of the app. The in-app "purchases" is just an option to let you buy the premium (one time, ad-free) version.
This post keeps track of all known Lemmy clients. Quite a lot for both Android and iOS: https://lemmy.ml/post/1466515 https://archive.is/GlDLs 2 Jul 2023 03:46:26 UTC In case server is ovetwhelmed...
This post keeps track of all known Lemmy clients. Quite a lot for both Android and iOS: https://lemmy.ml/post/1466515
I've only installed clients if they made it onto a playstore. This way I don't have to worry about manual updates since, at this stage, the updates are going to be very regular.
PS: loving Liftoff! Even at this testing stage it feels highly polished.
I’ve tried a few I forget the names of through TestFlight rather than the AppStore, but my favorite so far is a web app called wefwef: https://wefwef.app I just wish it were an app of its own
I’ve tried a few I forget the names of through TestFlight rather than the AppStore, but my favorite so far is a web app called wefwef: https://wefwef.app
I don't know anything about app development, but it appears most of the work is done. Would it be that difficult to make it a standalone app at this point?
I don't know anything about app development, but it appears most of the work is done. Would it be that difficult to make it a standalone app at this point?
I have to be honest, all these apps suck big time. They're all lacking basic features, really basic stuff like searching for communities for instance, the most complete one is Jerboa, but it's...
I have to be honest, all these apps suck big time. They're all lacking basic features, really basic stuff like searching for communities for instance, the most complete one is Jerboa, but it's laggy and janky as hell. I'd honestly pay $5 bucks just to have a decent app at this point, I can't wait for Boost and Sync.
I was a rif user so I'm mostly looking forward to Tildes is Fun or whatever that app will be called, but I'll definitely check out Boost for Lemmy. I was using Beehaw a decent amount but they...
I was a rif user so I'm mostly looking forward to Tildes is Fun or whatever that app will be called, but I'll definitely check out Boost for Lemmy. I was using Beehaw a decent amount but they defederated from a major instance that hosted some of the main communities that I was active on right before I got my invite to Tildes, so maybe this will get me to try it out a bit more.
I've been preferring to use Tildes but I also have been using kbin, mostly because Chrome let me "install" an "app" for it on my phone. I'm enjoying the quality of the discussions on Tildes much more, but the Fediverse has easier access to more communities, whereas I might not know which Tildes topic is best to post about, say running (~health? ~hobbies? ~sports?).
Tildes is not that difficult and if you post in the wrong place someone will figure that out for you. I haven't used it, but my impression is that the Fediverse is more of a drop-in replacement...
Tildes is not that difficult and if you post in the wrong place someone will figure that out for you. I haven't used it, but my impression is that the Fediverse is more of a drop-in replacement for Reddit than Tildes is.
Do you want to talk about health benefits/issues of running? Post to ~health Do you want to talk about running as a hobby? Post to ~hobby Do you want to talk about the recent 100m dash results?...
Do you want to talk about health benefits/issues of running? Post to ~health
Do you want to talk about running as a hobby? Post to ~hobby
Do you want to talk about the recent 100m dash results? Post to ~sports
Right, but what if you want to give a report on the race you personally ran recently? You certainly weren't competitive in the race so does a description of the course and the issues you...
Right, but what if you want to give a report on the race you personally ran recently? You certainly weren't competitive in the race so does a description of the course and the issues you personally experienced really belong in ~sports? Or what if you want to discuss techniques for building a better aerobic base? That could go in ~health because you're discussing ways to target your health to be better for running but that's so you're more competitive, so ~sports could be appropriate, but you want to specifically consider what the literature has to say about it, so perhaps ~science would cover a discussion of those studies? Or would just ~hobbies be the catch-despite the fact that it's really mostly discussions about hardware and cars and podcasts instead of in-depth discussions of how to hone your body for one purpose?
I would say ~hobbies is fine if that's the answer, but that is so broad and the posts on there tend to be specific. I know that tags are the answer but that requires so many tags to catch all the potential topics and tags just for running.
The other answer could just be that the Fediverse is the place to look for for specific, niche discussions, whereas Tildes can be where you are shown a potpourri of niche discussions.
I wonder if a “cross posting” or linked post feature would benefit such an occasion. Without one it obviously comes down to what the content of the post is. Depending what the content of the post...
I wonder if a “cross posting” or linked post feature would benefit such an occasion. Without one it obviously comes down to what the content of the post is. Depending what the content of the post ends up being, it could easily satisfy one, if not all three of those groups.
At the same time, the discussion that will occur will obviously change/differ depending on where it ends up getting posted. I doubt that a post that in ~hobby will have the same types of conversation that a post in ~science would have. This would mean that the intent would also have to be a factor in where a post goes?
I feel like kbin and the Fediverse at large have become more insufferable than reddit over the last two weeks. Growing pains, I realize, but holy shit. Now that I'm on Tildes, I'm going to forget...
I feel like kbin and the Fediverse at large have become more insufferable than reddit over the last two weeks. Growing pains, I realize, but holy shit. Now that I'm on Tildes, I'm going to forget the Fediverse exists for a while, give it some time to mature. I'm keeping my 3-letter account though lol
Yeah, I've seen a decent amount of annoying content the few times I've checked it out recently. Seems like you need to curate your experience much as you need to do on reddit...except that the...
Yeah, I've seen a decent amount of annoying content the few times I've checked it out recently. Seems like you need to curate your experience much as you need to do on reddit...except that the smaller communities don't have enough users to have much content.
I would really like to enjoy Lemmy, I would, but the whole idea of the Fediverse and instances and all that is really confusing and makes me feel like a total old person.
I would really like to enjoy Lemmy, I would, but the whole idea of the Fediverse and instances and all that is really confusing and makes me feel like a total old person.
But it isn't different sites, is it? It's like they're one, but not really, but also yeah, but sort of not? The only other thing I ever used that had 'instances' was Invidious, but that was simple...
But it isn't different sites, is it? It's like they're one, but not really, but also yeah, but sort of not?
The only other thing I ever used that had 'instances' was Invidious, but that was simple because they were pretty much the same site on a different URL, and they never interacted.
The way I understand it is to comapre it to email. There's Gmail, Yahoo, Hotmail, Outlook, and a variety of work emails. But they can all talk to one another becsuse of an underlying email...
The way I understand it is to comapre it to email. There's Gmail, Yahoo, Hotmail, Outlook, and a variety of work emails. But they can all talk to one another becsuse of an underlying email protocol that non-technical people don't need to care about. All email services build on this and any person csn whip up a server and use this protocol to make their own email domain.
Lemmy/KBin/etc. Are your email sites, and the underlying tecj you don't need to care about called ActivityPub is the protocol. The rest of the metaphor clicks from there. Each site has their own design but also lets certain other sites talk to one another, as if they are also a part of each other. Those are the basics.
But it would be like if your email provider could just say "we think the people still using Hotmail are kinda dumb so we're not going to let you send email to them anymore." I mean, they can but...
But it would be like if your email provider could just say "we think the people still using Hotmail are kinda dumb so we're not going to let you send email to them anymore."
I mean, they can but it would be highly irregular, whereas it's totally normal in the Fediverse.
I've been using Boost for Reddit on Android for many years and have premium (no ads). It's definitely an awesome app for Reddit, and the dev has always been very active on the sub and responding...
I've been using Boost for Reddit on Android for many years and have premium (no ads).
It's definitely an awesome app for Reddit, and the dev has always been very active on the sub and responding to feedback.
I don't personally have any interest in lemmy or the fediverse, but if anyone is then I would say it's likely this will be an excellent app for it.
Honestly I have ended up spending a lot of work time on lemmy just because of the mobile app availability over tildes. is there an app even available or are they all still in development?
Honestly I have ended up spending a lot of work time on lemmy just because of the mobile app availability over tildes. is there an app even available or are they all still in development?
Be careful with Lemmy 3rd party apps.
Unless something has changed very recently, Lemmy does not implement OAuth, so you'll have to provide your credentials directly in the app, with all the risks that involves. Their MFA implementation is also utterly broken, don't try to activate it if you don't want to risk getting locked out of your account.
If you don't trust an app, you simply shouldn't install it. Oauth doesn't fix this issue, rather than logging credentials they can instead display a phishing page with a genuine looking Oauth screen that logs credentials when you login.
ye oath protects more against a 3rd-3rd party trying to snoop in
The app should open my browser on a page I'm likely already logged in, that will display the name of my Lemmy instance, and will ask me to approve the connection.
If my browser opens totallyn0tascam.xyz for me to login, I'll probably think something is fishy.
Also, supply chain attacks are a thing, and can happen to the most legit apps. So I'd rather not give my credentials to any app when there's well established technical solutions to avoid it. It's all about reducing the attack surface area.
I haven't heard about Lemmy's MFA implementation being broken. Could you link me to more information on that? Don't find anything with a quick search.
My Instance is sh.itjust.works, and I know of another user from another instance who had the same issues.
I've got 5 Lemmy clients installed (Liftoff!, Jerboa, Connect, Summit and WefWef) and do not believe any of them collect and share data. Also, no in-app purchases.
I have to double check to be sure (on mobile).
According to Google Play, Boost seems to do all three things... collect, share device information. They also have in-app purchases. I'm sure it's a great app but...
On a positive.. Wow! The amount of Lemmy clients in development speaks volumes. Lemmy is here to stay.
I used Boost for Reddit before and I think this is the dev trying to salvage his app. I think the reason why Boost collects and shares data is because of the ads on the free version of the app. The in-app "purchases" is just an option to let you buy the premium (one time, ad-free) version.
Are any of them available for iOS in the App Store?
This post keeps track of all known Lemmy clients. Quite a lot for both Android and iOS: https://lemmy.ml/post/1466515
https://archive.is/GlDLs
2 Jul 2023 03:46:26 UTC
In case server is ovetwhelmed
I've only installed clients if they made it onto a playstore. This way I don't have to worry about manual updates since, at this stage, the updates are going to be very regular.
PS: loving Liftoff! Even at this testing stage it feels highly polished.
Update (edit, 10jul2023): Full List of all known Lemmy Apps: https://lemmyapps.netlify.app/light.html
I’ve tried a few I forget the names of through TestFlight rather than the AppStore, but my favorite so far is a web app called wefwef: https://wefwef.app
I just wish it were an app of its own
I don't know anything about app development, but it appears most of the work is done. Would it be that difficult to make it a standalone app at this point?
I have to be honest, all these apps suck big time. They're all lacking basic features, really basic stuff like searching for communities for instance, the most complete one is Jerboa, but it's laggy and janky as hell. I'd honestly pay $5 bucks just to have a decent app at this point, I can't wait for Boost and Sync.
I was a rif user so I'm mostly looking forward to Tildes is Fun or whatever that app will be called, but I'll definitely check out Boost for Lemmy. I was using Beehaw a decent amount but they defederated from a major instance that hosted some of the main communities that I was active on right before I got my invite to Tildes, so maybe this will get me to try it out a bit more.
I've been preferring to use Tildes but I also have been using kbin, mostly because Chrome let me "install" an "app" for it on my phone. I'm enjoying the quality of the discussions on Tildes much more, but the Fediverse has easier access to more communities, whereas I might not know which Tildes topic is best to post about, say running (~health? ~hobbies? ~sports?).
Tildes is not that difficult and if you post in the wrong place someone will figure that out for you. I haven't used it, but my impression is that the Fediverse is more of a drop-in replacement for Reddit than Tildes is.
Do you want to talk about health benefits/issues of running? Post to ~health
Do you want to talk about running as a hobby? Post to ~hobby
Do you want to talk about the recent 100m dash results? Post to ~sports
Right, but what if you want to give a report on the race you personally ran recently? You certainly weren't competitive in the race so does a description of the course and the issues you personally experienced really belong in ~sports? Or what if you want to discuss techniques for building a better aerobic base? That could go in ~health because you're discussing ways to target your health to be better for running but that's so you're more competitive, so ~sports could be appropriate, but you want to specifically consider what the literature has to say about it, so perhaps ~science would cover a discussion of those studies? Or would just ~hobbies be the catch-despite the fact that it's really mostly discussions about hardware and cars and podcasts instead of in-depth discussions of how to hone your body for one purpose?
I would say ~hobbies is fine if that's the answer, but that is so broad and the posts on there tend to be specific. I know that tags are the answer but that requires so many tags to catch all the potential topics and tags just for running.
The other answer could just be that the Fediverse is the place to look for for specific, niche discussions, whereas Tildes can be where you are shown a potpourri of niche discussions.
I wonder if a “cross posting” or linked post feature would benefit such an occasion. Without one it obviously comes down to what the content of the post is. Depending what the content of the post ends up being, it could easily satisfy one, if not all three of those groups.
At the same time, the discussion that will occur will obviously change/differ depending on where it ends up getting posted. I doubt that a post that in ~hobby will have the same types of conversation that a post in ~science would have. This would mean that the intent would also have to be a factor in where a post goes?
https://tild.es/157v - Three Cheers for Tildes! Like you, I was looking for TIF.
Thank you!
I feel like kbin and the Fediverse at large have become more insufferable than reddit over the last two weeks. Growing pains, I realize, but holy shit. Now that I'm on Tildes, I'm going to forget the Fediverse exists for a while, give it some time to mature. I'm keeping my 3-letter account though lol
Yeah, I've seen a decent amount of annoying content the few times I've checked it out recently. Seems like you need to curate your experience much as you need to do on reddit...except that the smaller communities don't have enough users to have much content.
You should check out the Surfboard app for Tildes. Works/feels great!
It's only for iOS.
I would really like to enjoy Lemmy, I would, but the whole idea of the Fediverse and instances and all that is really confusing and makes me feel like a total old person.
I agree it's confusing at the beginning, I see instances same as using different forums sites.
But it isn't different sites, is it? It's like they're one, but not really, but also yeah, but sort of not?
The only other thing I ever used that had 'instances' was Invidious, but that was simple because they were pretty much the same site on a different URL, and they never interacted.
The way I understand it is to comapre it to email. There's Gmail, Yahoo, Hotmail, Outlook, and a variety of work emails. But they can all talk to one another becsuse of an underlying email protocol that non-technical people don't need to care about. All email services build on this and any person csn whip up a server and use this protocol to make their own email domain.
Lemmy/KBin/etc. Are your email sites, and the underlying tecj you don't need to care about called ActivityPub is the protocol. The rest of the metaphor clicks from there. Each site has their own design but also lets certain other sites talk to one another, as if they are also a part of each other. Those are the basics.
That's a good explanation! Thanks.
But it would be like if your email provider could just say "we think the people still using Hotmail are kinda dumb so we're not going to let you send email to them anymore."
I mean, they can but it would be highly irregular, whereas it's totally normal in the Fediverse.
I've been using Boost for Reddit on Android for many years and have premium (no ads).
It's definitely an awesome app for Reddit, and the dev has always been very active on the sub and responding to feedback.
I don't personally have any interest in lemmy or the fediverse, but if anyone is then I would say it's likely this will be an excellent app for it.
Thank you, this is the information I was looking for.
I've been casually using Jerboa over the last few weeks. Are there any pros/cons for switching to Boost?
Honestly I have ended up spending a lot of work time on lemmy just because of the mobile app availability over tildes. is there an app even available or are they all still in development?
Was my favorite client for Reddit. Might make me check Lemmy out once it's out.