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iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Pro rumored to feature big boost in battery sizes
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- Chance Miller, Zac Hall, Benjamin Mayo, Michael Potuck
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- Jul 4 2023
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Longer battery life would be nice!
I'm still on the 13 mini (had the 7 before that), and probably won't upgrade for a while. Hopefully I can stretch it until 2027, security updates permitting.
No matter how much of an upgrade 15 will be, the environmental impact of upgrading every few years is prohibitive to me.
I'm glad you're reducing your consumption. I also try to be less wasteful and buy lower end phones (less materials - and cheaper!) and use them for at least a few years. But when you mentioned "the environmental impact of upgrading every few years is prohibitive to me." I was expecting way more than 74 Kg for the biggest iPhone. That's equivalent to 8 gallons of gasoline burned. We should also burn as little gasoline as possible but I don't think even the environmentally conscious would consider putting off burning 8 gallons of gasoline for 7 years to be a great way to save on carbon emissions.
The easiest thing I've found that I can cut is air travel. Driving a hybrid with >1 passengers is more efficient than flying. Or just don't travel at all, or combine trips. I'm able to occasionally visit my family for the duration of Thanksgiving through New Years, which means two fewer long distance flights.
There's also https://wren.co
I don't own a car, so... yeah... ;)
I may need to burn a few gallons a year to get myself where my feet or bike can't take me, but if I don't need it, I don't do it. It's not hard for me not to buy a new phone while my current one works fine. If I end up needing a new one, I will buy one. If I only want a new one, I'm okay with not indulging myself and soothing my conscience in the process.
In the bigger picture, by not buying a new phone every year or two, we disincentivize the launch of a string of new models every single year. If Apple would just wait another year or two for each launch, I'm guessing that would cut out a lot more emissions and environmental damage. (Even better if they go the Fairphone route and aim for upgrading of modules instead of entire phones.)
If we could get their competitors to do the same, well, Bob's your uncle!
I was always buying lower end phones for a while but barely any of them lasted for more than 1,5 years. Might go for a mid budget one next time..
The real trick is to buy the top end phone of the previous generation.
Samsung releases the S23 ultra, look for all the discounted used S22 ultras from people who want to stay at the bleeding edge. You're likely still guaranteed software and security updates for a good long while too.
I currently have the lowest end iPhone. It’s holding up okay for being 3 years old. Before that I guess I had a Pixel 1, so more mid range.
I hope this is true - I have a 14 Pro and the battery is a huge downgrade from my old 11
Really? My 14 Pro Max is dramatically better than my XS Max was. I recognize that’s a jump of 4 years but I also said the XS Max had dramatically better battery life than my 7+ when I got it.
I can go like two days with this thing. That said, improved battery won’t ever be something I’ll not want haha
To be fair I haven’t had a non plus or max since they came out so my experience isn’t with the normal sized ones
I have the small 14 Pro. It barely lasts a day (sometimes it even needs a top-off, if I’m going out that night).
I used to have the 11 (non Pro). That thing could go 2 days.
I miss that longevity, the lack of battery anxiety was nice.
Totally agree on the 14 Pro Max. The battery life on this thing is great. I actually only need to charge it every couple of days, which is a dramatic increase from the previous phone I had (iPhone SE2020). The battery on that phone would barely make it 24 hours, even brand new.
Does it really matter at this point? I haven't worried about battery life in a phone since I got my Galaxy S6, about 6 years ago. All phones I've had since last well over a day with my usage. It really feels like phones have stagnated. Processing power is far more than enough, batteries are great, etc etc.
My iPhone 14 doesn’t last long at all because I use Bluetooth headphones. It seems to really drain the battery life, I might get half a day if I’m listening a lot. So, totally depends on how you use the phone!
My husband charges his Pixel (7?) less than daily. I charge my iPhone 13 multiple times per day. We have the same job and have very similar usage habits.
I agree it won’t matter once phones last well over a day. The current iPhone doesn’t come close to that for me, so it does matter for now ;)
My iPhone XR lasts a day, I had no idea there were phones out there that lasted longer, as every phone I’ve ever had has lasted no more than a day with regular usage.
My parents bought me a 14 pro as a congratulations for first job out of college (I'm young, I know). I have a battery pack. Phones in general have less and less selling points, and the only things that would make me consider a new iPhone is USB C charging and sideloading applications - if they both happen for the 15, who knows, might just get myself one. Other than that, slightly better camera and processor along with a litany of small improvements are probably what they're trying to sell, so no thanks.
You can sideload applications right now, you just need to pay $100/yr.
You don't need to pay, but free accounts have to reinstall the apps every week and have a three-app limit. Paying bumps it to once per year, and (iirc) increases the app limit.
Hopefully, this'll be an upgrade year for me with how the 15 is looking. Pro has titanium, so I can get it and not have it weigh significantly more relative to the normal iPhone, this may be the last year the iPhone has real volume buttons, and maybe USB-C although I think that'll be the 16.
The battery is fine on recent iPhones but after a few years of degradation a day can be a little rough. I usually bring a battery pack when I travel (and the battery is quite important).
Man I hope they never get rid of the physical volume and silence switches. Silence especially.
I’ll wait and see about the titanium. I’m apprehensive, to be honest. I really like the current stainless steel. No other phone has that same feel in hand.
I had the Essential Phone (throwback) which was titanium & ceramic; it was nice, but not as nice as my iPhone X or 14 Pro.
That's still a rumor and I honestly can't really see it affecting the weight that much. As is, the chassis is probably only a small fraction of the total weight.
The use of stainless steel instead of aluminum for the side is most of the weight difference between the regular iPhone and the Pro. So 7.84 g/cm^3 vs 4.5 vs 2.7. Should be in between the current regular iPhone and Pro in terms of weight.
Ok, this was bugging the shit out of me before I went to bed so I put together a quick spreadsheet to estimate weight differences. I thought that the slightly larger size and the extra camera would make a big difference but, like you suggested; it might really be more down to the metal than anything else.
The 14 weights 172g, the 14 pro 206g, and my guess at a titanium 14 pro is 185g. Most of the way down to the weight of a non pro model.
EDIT: It should go without saying, but I'm guessing a few values in my spreadsheet but I'd bet its pretty close.
In my other reply I did a rough calculation to ballpark the weight difference and I was a little surprised.
I think the obvious choice would be aluminum just like the non-pro iPhone. If they use Titanium then they WILL raise the price due to the extra cost of that material. Apple won't give consumers something extra for nothing.
Maybe unpopular opinion, but I'd take reduced weight over a little more battery life at this point. It depends on your lifestyle/charging habits etc but I legit cannot remember a time where I have run out of battery and not been near a charger. And you know the newer cameras are probably going to add more weight.
I wish I could have everything about the Pro except the cameras. Those things are so chunky, it’s ridiculous.
Man these rumors have me excited for an iPhone like almost never before. Can't remember being this excited for an iPhone since the 6. I've been using Android phones since 2014 and Samsungs since 2017 and honestly kind of want something different. I tried switching to iOS previously with the 13 Pro but I absolutely hated the notification system, lack of customization options, the uncomfortable square edges and the lightning port. These annoyed me so much I quickly sold the device and moved back to my Note 9. If the rumors about the 15 Pro are true, then they've basically addressed everything I hated previously. I've also been trying out an iPhone 11 as a secondary device to get used to iOS and with iOS 16 and now 17 and while things still annoy me, I've been enjoying it more than I thought I would.
Have they? Just going through your list there, notifications will still suck, it’s not very customizable, the edges are flat, and assuming you live outside the E.U. you’ll still have a lightning port. By my count that’s 0/4 or 1/4 if you’re european?
Notifications aren't as bad anymore (at least from what I've experienced in iOS 16/17 Beta), it's decently customizable now (though there's hoops to jump through), and I'm just banking on Apple having USB-C in the US too lol. From other rumors I read earlier, the iPhone 15 Pro will get USB-C everywhere this year and then the non-Pro phones will get it next year.
As a daily user, I’ll just say they are still far worse than what Android had in 2015 😄
I hope you’re right about USB-C though, I’ve wanted it since the X
The two things tying me to Android for the last 10 years have been
Standardized charging cable
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Now that RiF is dead and Apple is switching to USB-C, I guess I'm getting an iPhone.
Same here haha, except I was a Sync/Relay user. I get that Relay still works but it’ll be a $4-7 subscription soon and that’s a bit much for me. Excited to see how the bigger batteries improve battery life.
I have a SE. I won't upgrade unless they have a mini size with a USB C port. If they do, great, if they don't, oh well. I could care less about the battery life. It's probably not as good as it should be, but it's more than good enough.
I hate having huge phones taking up pocket space (especially since I must carry a work phone), and i'm sick of not being able to have everything be USB C.
You can manually improve battery function by
I have noticed no degradation in form or function (performance) and actually much improved battery life because of it.
I used to always use low power mode 24/7, but since Apple decided it should force ProMotion off along with everything else, I’ve stopped. I wish I could customize it to turn off everything else except the high refresh rate.
Just for the record, it does make sense to lower the refresh rate for a power saving mode; higher refresh rates take up more power.
That being said, being able to customize your power consumption is a nice missing feature.
Oh of course it helps; it’s just not the tradeoff I want to make, so I stopped using the feature. Cheers !