Sad to see the average phone size creeping even further into the stratosphere. As someone who spends a lot of time walking, taking public transit, and biking, I value one-handed phone operation....
Sad to see the average phone size creeping even further into the stratosphere. As someone who spends a lot of time walking, taking public transit, and biking, I value one-handed phone operation. It's clear that pretty much nobody else does, though.
I'm also sad to see the end of TouchID on the iPhone. As a glasses wearer who lives in a cold climate (and uses sunglasses in the summer), I've always found it a lot easier to pop off a glove for a quick second (necessary anyway to use the screen) than to massage FaceID into scanning my face. Losing that option is sad.
On the plus side, at least every iPhone uses USB-C now. But until Apple offers an affordable or small option with USB-C, I suspect a lot of folks with hold onto their older phones. Bigger than the old SE and 30% more expensive is quite the lift. I guess this phone now takes up the 'cheapest normal iPhone' slot that the Mini used to occupy, and Apple has entirely given up on the 'simple, old, cheap, smallish' slot for the SE.
I was wary of switching from TouchID to FaceID but it's about the same in my experience, there were some situations where one is better than the other so it was trading minor inconveniences in the...
I was wary of switching from TouchID to FaceID but it's about the same in my experience, there were some situations where one is better than the other so it was trading minor inconveniences in the end. I know it'll vary from person to person though, FaceID is generally good to me even with glasses and a beard though if I'm wearing a hat and mask it's missing more often than not.
I am concerned about phone sizes though. I'm going to hold on to my iPhone 13 Mini for as long as I can but I don't know if there will even be a comparable Android model with a reasonable size in a few years.
I refuse to use Face ID. You can control your touch ID but it's harder to control someone forcing a phone unlock with Face ID. I don't want cops breaking into my phone easily just because I went...
I refuse to use Face ID. You can control your touch ID but it's harder to control someone forcing a phone unlock with Face ID. I don't want cops breaking into my phone easily just because I went for convenience.
You can hold the power button and either volume button for 2 seconds on the iPhone to hard lock it. After you do so, Face ID will be disabled and you have to enter your full pin to access the...
You can hold the power button and either volume button for 2 seconds on the iPhone to hard lock it. After you do so, Face ID will be disabled and you have to enter your full pin to access the device.
If you’re really worried about police forcing you to unlock your phone, you can just remember to do that before any interactions with the police.
That being said, if law enforcement is already in no-fucks mode, they can just do the old “I will bash your head in with the stock of my glock unless you unlock your phone” trick.
https://xkcd.com/538/ Tapping the lock button five times also works. As far as I understand, you just have to get to the "slide to power off" screen somehow, and then biometrics will stay disabled...
Tapping the lock button five times also works. As far as I understand, you just have to get to the "slide to power off" screen somehow, and then biometrics will stay disabled until you enter your passcode. You can even do it during a phone call.
Well yeah, you can lock a phone using that method no matter the unlock system chosen. The point is that Face ID is inherently less secure. So it's unfortunate they're removing choice.
Well yeah, you can lock a phone using that method no matter the unlock system chosen. The point is that Face ID is inherently less secure. So it's unfortunate they're removing choice.
I don’t think it’s really true that it’s inherently less secure. Face ID requires you to look at the camera. It seems about as easy to grab your hand, and force it on the sensor. Or even better,...
I don’t think it’s really true that it’s inherently less secure. Face ID requires you to look at the camera. It seems about as easy to grab your hand, and force it on the sensor. Or even better, bash your head in and put your finger on the phone while you’re clocked out. You actually can’t do that with FaceID.
It’s also not removing choice - no phone has had both faceID and touchID. So it’s an exchange, not a removal.
It won’t unlock if your eyes are closed or if you’re looking away from the screen. Touch ID can be activated while you’re sleeping if someone can access your fingers, or while you’re awake if they...
It won’t unlock if your eyes are closed or if you’re looking away from the screen. Touch ID can be activated while you’re sleeping if someone can access your fingers, or while you’re awake if they can force your hands into position.
I don't think that's actually true honestly. You have to be looking dead on at the phone with your eyes open for Face ID to activate. I don't see how it's more difficult for someone to grab your...
I don't think that's actually true honestly. You have to be looking dead on at the phone with your eyes open for Face ID to activate. I don't see how it's more difficult for someone to grab your hand and forcibly smush your finger into the button than it is for them to clockwork orange you and force you to look at your phone.
Yeah I use a combo setup. I use Face ID for stuff like app authentication once I'm in the phone, but for unlocking the phone itself I always keep a passcode required
Yeah I use a combo setup. I use Face ID for stuff like app authentication once I'm in the phone, but for unlocking the phone itself I always keep a passcode required
Ooh, now that’s an idea! I was wondering what I was going to do because at the moment I’m still using the iPhone SE with TouchID, but often use my phone without pointing it at my face (e.g. it’s...
Ooh, now that’s an idea! I was wondering what I was going to do because at the moment I’m still using the iPhone SE with TouchID, but often use my phone without pointing it at my face (e.g. it’s flat on my desk and I want to quickly check something) and for some reason I didn’t even think about just disabling face-to-unlock and requiring the passcode every time
I still hope some day in the future they bring it back, maybe under the screen like other smartphone brands, but overall I prefer to stick with the Apple ecosystem for now
I recently had to begrudgingly upgrade my phone after waiting for years for a modern, compact phone, and it looks bleak. If you want a compact (sub 5" screen) phone, you only have crap choices: a...
I am concerned about phone sizes though. I'm going to hold on to my iPhone 13 Mini for as long as I can but I don't know if there will even be a comparable Android model with a reasonable size in a few years.
I recently had to begrudgingly upgrade my phone after waiting for years for a modern, compact phone, and it looks bleak. If you want a compact (sub 5" screen) phone, you only have crap choices:
a flip phone with a good front screen (e.g. Samsung Flip 6)
a Chinese C-Tier phone with a slow processor, bad camera and questionable integrity of the Android install (e.g. Unihertz)
a legacy phone with no or very short software support (Sony Xperia XZ2 Compact with a custom ROM or iPhone SE3)
accept that 6" is now the new compact.
I have big hands, so I chose the last option. I still can one-hand that screen, but it's not comfortable. I miss my 5" phone every day.
No, you can't, unfortunately. This is exactly what I call "Chinese C-Tier phone with a slow processor, bad camera and questionable integrity of the Android install". Seriously, it has an outdated...
No, you can't, unfortunately. This is exactly what I call "Chinese C-Tier phone with a slow processor, bad camera and questionable integrity of the Android install".
Seriously, it has an outdated Mediatek CPU with 4GB RAM and a 13MP camera module of unknown origin capping out at 30fps video.
I'd be extremely surprised if that thing runs stock Android 11. I bet they heavily customized it, all Chinese OEMs do.
God, Face ID is still so bad compared to Touch ID. My iPad Air has a touch ID button on one of its sides and it works perfectly every time. My iPhone 15 Pro struggles if I'm cuddling a pillow.
God, Face ID is still so bad compared to Touch ID. My iPad Air has a touch ID button on one of its sides and it works perfectly every time. My iPhone 15 Pro struggles if I'm cuddling a pillow.
I cannot recommend touch screen-tipped gloves enough. It's a game-changer. Totally worth the cost. There are a ton of different models to suit all your glove needs.
a lot easier to pop off a glove for a quick second (necessary anyway to use the screen)
I cannot recommend touch screen-tipped gloves enough.
It's a game-changer. Totally worth the cost. There are a ton of different models to suit all your glove needs.
Unfortunately I've got gloves that I really love that work well for me. My hands have awful circulation so I need something pretty thick. Touchscreen gloves have always felt a bit too clunky for me :(
Unfortunately I've got gloves that I really love that work well for me. My hands have awful circulation so I need something pretty thick. Touchscreen gloves have always felt a bit too clunky for me :(
Same page. The ONLY reason I finally upgraded was the mandatory USBC so I could finally nuke all my lightning cables (except one because I still have the occasional friend/coworker who needs it)....
It's clear that pretty much nobody else does, though.
Same page. The ONLY reason I finally upgraded was the mandatory USBC so I could finally nuke all my lightning cables (except one because I still have the occasional friend/coworker who needs it).
I don't plan on upgrading again if phones only get bigger unless I absolutely MUST.
On the technological side, the most interesting part is that this will be the first phone with Apple's 5G modem. It was feared for a while it would be vaporware, so it's good to see it's...
On the technological side, the most interesting part is that this will be the first phone with Apple's 5G modem. It was feared for a while it would be vaporware, so it's good to see it's shippable. If it works well, hopefully it will appear in SKUs for devices like macbooks.
On the pricing, it is significantly more expensive than the old SE. But also much more capable. I also am expecting Apple to raise prices on the entire iPhones. Not only is there all the volatility from the maybe tariffs, but also, they've been keeping the price stable for far longer than you'd expect.
The iPhone 16, going for $800, is the CHEAPEST base line iPhone Apple ever made apart from the original iPhone, in real dollars. That's was never going to last. I expect $900 starting for the iPhone 17.
The iPhone 16 also has one of the smallest gaps in functionality to the Pro than any generation has had, in my opinion. This was the first year I contemplated a non-Pro. With the 16e being $200...
The iPhone 16 also has one of the smallest gaps in functionality to the Pro than any generation has had, in my opinion. This was the first year I contemplated a non-Pro. With the 16e being $200 less than the 16 and with great battery life, the 16e might be the best value iPhone for the average user Apple has ever had.
A lot of the speculation about the iPhone 16 and 16 Pro being so close together in terms of features and functionality is that they intend to keep the 16 around for a while as the progressively...
A lot of the speculation about the iPhone 16 and 16 Pro being so close together in terms of features and functionality is that they intend to keep the 16 around for a while as the progressively cheaper option in smaller, more price sensitive markets. They’ve done that before with the iPhone 5 and the iPad 2.
They do that with every generation though. They're still selling the iPhone 15, although that will likely go away next year when the 17 comes out. Maybe they'll keep the 16 around longer than they...
They do that with every generation though. They're still selling the iPhone 15, although that will likely go away next year when the 17 comes out. Maybe they'll keep the 16 around longer than they typically keep them around, but the SE line traditionally fulfills the role of long-lived cheap model.
They sometimes keep the older phones around, but in those cases specifically, they kept those devices around for a lot longer than normal because they could make them super cheap and sell a lot in...
They sometimes keep the older phones around, but in those cases specifically, they kept those devices around for a lot longer than normal because they could make them super cheap and sell a lot in more price sensitive countries and markets. The iPad 2 was sold from 2011 until 2016 because they sold them in bulk to schools for way below what the newer iPads cost.
Modem in this case for receiving the signal - which every phone has. It’s more accurate to say that this is the first iPhone with an apple-designed modem. Every phone for the last while has had a...
Modem in this case for receiving the signal - which every phone has. It’s more accurate to say that this is the first iPhone with an apple-designed modem. Every phone for the last while has had a 5G modem - that’s not the interesting part. The idea is that since apple built it in-house, they can optimize for their phones and what they care about, theoretically getting better performance. Same reason apple does their own silicon (the chips) now - and it’s really worked out quite well for them.
The reason I was asking was because I wasn't sure what made it exciting. I figured this was a given for all modern phones. But it appears to be interesting because Apple made the parts.
The reason I was asking was because I wasn't sure what made it exciting. I figured this was a given for all modern phones. But it appears to be interesting because Apple made the parts.
I was ready to buy one of these, but I'm slightly disappointed about the size increase and very disappointed about the price increase. The SE used to be a good deal, and I've owned one of each...
I was ready to buy one of these, but I'm slightly disappointed about the size increase and very disappointed about the price increase. The SE used to be a good deal, and I've owned one of each generation. USB-C and better battery is great, but not worth a switch until my current phone dies.
I am impressed by the advertised battery life, but at the same time annoyed that I wouldn't be able to use this screen since I am one of the few people who struggle with getting headaches from...
I am impressed by the advertised battery life, but at the same time annoyed that I wouldn't be able to use this screen since I am one of the few people who struggle with getting headaches from looking at PWM. So I guess I'll have to even longer stick to my iPhone SE 3rd Gen.
Regarding the PWM headaches, I've always been curious about this. Do you get headaches relatively instantly when viewing the screen - and at all brightness levels? Or is it only at lower brightnesses?
Regarding the PWM headaches, I've always been curious about this. Do you get headaches relatively instantly when viewing the screen - and at all brightness levels? Or is it only at lower brightnesses?
Hey and thanks for asking. It’s not that these headaches start instantly. It's more that something feels off when I'm looking at screens that are dimmed via PWM. On the iPhone it often happens...
Hey and thanks for asking. It’s not that these headaches start instantly. It's more that something feels off when I'm looking at screens that are dimmed via PWM. On the iPhone it often happens that when my eyes focus text, I notice a slight flicker in the edges. When I then try to focus the flicker, it disappears and the now out of focus part of the screen (the text) starts to flicker. This triggers something in my brain which makes just looking at the screen exhausting, which then leads to headaches and dizziness.
This is at normal brightness levels (less than 100%). When cranking it up, PWM gets disabled on most screens, so I don’t notice any flicker anymore, but of course have the problem that I am staring at a too bright screen.
I don't follow Apple phones, or all phone tech for that matter, but I am pleasantly surprised at the price of $599. I would never buy it, but I'm glad to see that there are actually affordable...
I don't follow Apple phones, or all phone tech for that matter, but I am pleasantly surprised at the price of $599. I would never buy it, but I'm glad to see that there are actually affordable iPhones without a 9 year contract.
The floor's been raised quite a bit for a new iPhone considering the model this is replacing (third-generation iPhone SE) was $429 for the base version. Yes, the hardware's improved and the base...
The floor's been raised quite a bit for a new iPhone considering the model this is replacing (third-generation iPhone SE) was $429 for the base version. Yes, the hardware's improved and the base storage is doubled, but for some people those extras putting it closer to the current "regular" iPhone aren't necessary.
Anyone happen to know if there are still places to get the iPhone SE 3rd generation 256gb? I held off buying since I assumed this would be smaller and within the same price range, but I was wrong....
Anyone happen to know if there are still places to get the iPhone SE 3rd generation 256gb? I held off buying since I assumed this would be smaller and within the same price range, but I was wrong. Apple as always has removed it from their website.
Best option seems to be refurbished on amazon or ebay.
Swappa acts as a marketplace for individual sellers/businesses, so YMMV. The Swappa staff vet the listings and devices based on information/photos provided by the seller. I haven't had any...
Swappa acts as a marketplace for individual sellers/businesses, so YMMV. The Swappa staff vet the listings and devices based on information/photos provided by the seller.
I haven't had any problems buying pre-owned devices every couple years over the past decade, but have noticed that there are a lot more shops/businesses selling on the site now. It used to be mostly people trying to offload their old or barely used devices.
I saw a couple SEs on there, if I can’t find anything local, then I may give this a try. My only hesitation is there batteries are already at 80%, so I’d likely have to look into what it would...
I saw a couple SEs on there, if I can’t find anything local, then I may give this a try. My only hesitation is there batteries are already at 80%, so I’d likely have to look into what it would cost to swap that out.
I have bought and sold many things with it over the years. Nowadays, I think most sellers are companies not individuals, but all of my transactions have gone perfectly. I can highly recommend them.
I have bought and sold many things with it over the years. Nowadays, I think most sellers are companies not individuals, but all of my transactions have gone perfectly. I can highly recommend them.
I currently have a 14 Pro and it looks like the 16e is 0.03 inches shorter, and the same width and depth. (Assuming PhoneArena is accurate.) I've yet to see any reason to upgrade. I don't care...
I currently have a 14 Pro and it looks like the 16e is 0.03 inches shorter, and the same width and depth. (Assuming PhoneArena is accurate.)
I've yet to see any reason to upgrade. I don't care about the AI chip. My reported battery capacity is down to 86% but it's yet to be an issue for me.
At this rate I don't think I'll upgrade until the 18 comes out.
Fair enough. I generally lean into whatever deal I can get from the cellular service providers (including the budget option if needed). I'll jump ship from Verizon to T-Mobile again if they have a...
Fair enough. I generally lean into whatever deal I can get from the cellular service providers (including the budget option if needed). I'll jump ship from Verizon to T-Mobile again if they have a compelling trade-in deal, but that's still contingent on if it feels worth it to upgrade the phone.
Sad to see the average phone size creeping even further into the stratosphere. As someone who spends a lot of time walking, taking public transit, and biking, I value one-handed phone operation. It's clear that pretty much nobody else does, though.
I'm also sad to see the end of TouchID on the iPhone. As a glasses wearer who lives in a cold climate (and uses sunglasses in the summer), I've always found it a lot easier to pop off a glove for a quick second (necessary anyway to use the screen) than to massage FaceID into scanning my face. Losing that option is sad.
On the plus side, at least every iPhone uses USB-C now. But until Apple offers an affordable or small option with USB-C, I suspect a lot of folks with hold onto their older phones. Bigger than the old SE and 30% more expensive is quite the lift. I guess this phone now takes up the 'cheapest normal iPhone' slot that the Mini used to occupy, and Apple has entirely given up on the 'simple, old, cheap, smallish' slot for the SE.
I was wary of switching from TouchID to FaceID but it's about the same in my experience, there were some situations where one is better than the other so it was trading minor inconveniences in the end. I know it'll vary from person to person though, FaceID is generally good to me even with glasses and a beard though if I'm wearing a hat and mask it's missing more often than not.
I am concerned about phone sizes though. I'm going to hold on to my iPhone 13 Mini for as long as I can but I don't know if there will even be a comparable Android model with a reasonable size in a few years.
I refuse to use Face ID. You can control your touch ID but it's harder to control someone forcing a phone unlock with Face ID. I don't want cops breaking into my phone easily just because I went for convenience.
You can hold the power button and either volume button for 2 seconds on the iPhone to hard lock it. After you do so, Face ID will be disabled and you have to enter your full pin to access the device.
If you’re really worried about police forcing you to unlock your phone, you can just remember to do that before any interactions with the police.
That being said, if law enforcement is already in no-fucks mode, they can just do the old “I will bash your head in with the stock of my glock unless you unlock your phone” trick.
https://xkcd.com/538/
Tapping the lock button five times also works. As far as I understand, you just have to get to the "slide to power off" screen somehow, and then biometrics will stay disabled until you enter your passcode. You can even do it during a phone call.
Well yeah, you can lock a phone using that method no matter the unlock system chosen. The point is that Face ID is inherently less secure. So it's unfortunate they're removing choice.
I don’t think it’s really true that it’s inherently less secure. Face ID requires you to look at the camera. It seems about as easy to grab your hand, and force it on the sensor. Or even better, bash your head in and put your finger on the phone while you’re clocked out. You actually can’t do that with FaceID.
It’s also not removing choice - no phone has had both faceID and touchID. So it’s an exchange, not a removal.
It won’t unlock if your eyes are closed or if you’re looking away from the screen. Touch ID can be activated while you’re sleeping if someone can access your fingers, or while you’re awake if they can force your hands into position.
I don't think that's actually true honestly. You have to be looking dead on at the phone with your eyes open for Face ID to activate. I don't see how it's more difficult for someone to grab your hand and forcibly smush your finger into the button than it is for them to clockwork orange you and force you to look at your phone.
Yeah I use a combo setup. I use Face ID for stuff like app authentication once I'm in the phone, but for unlocking the phone itself I always keep a passcode required
Ooh, now that’s an idea! I was wondering what I was going to do because at the moment I’m still using the iPhone SE with TouchID, but often use my phone without pointing it at my face (e.g. it’s flat on my desk and I want to quickly check something) and for some reason I didn’t even think about just disabling face-to-unlock and requiring the passcode every time
I still hope some day in the future they bring it back, maybe under the screen like other smartphone brands, but overall I prefer to stick with the Apple ecosystem for now
I recently had to begrudgingly upgrade my phone after waiting for years for a modern, compact phone, and it looks bleak. If you want a compact (sub 5" screen) phone, you only have crap choices:
I have big hands, so I chose the last option. I still can one-hand that screen, but it's not comfortable. I miss my 5" phone every day.
Can I interest you in a Cubot KingKong Mini?
https://gsmarena.com/cubot_kingkong_mini_2_pro-12318.php
No, you can't, unfortunately. This is exactly what I call "Chinese C-Tier phone with a slow processor, bad camera and questionable integrity of the Android install".
Seriously, it has an outdated Mediatek CPU with 4GB RAM and a 13MP camera module of unknown origin capping out at 30fps video.
I'd be extremely surprised if that thing runs stock Android 11. I bet they heavily customized it, all Chinese OEMs do.
God, Face ID is still so bad compared to Touch ID. My iPad Air has a touch ID button on one of its sides and it works perfectly every time. My iPhone 15 Pro struggles if I'm cuddling a pillow.
I wear glasses and FaceID has no problem with my regular glasses or sunglasses
I cannot recommend touch screen-tipped gloves enough.
It's a game-changer. Totally worth the cost. There are a ton of different models to suit all your glove needs.
Unfortunately I've got gloves that I really love that work well for me. My hands have awful circulation so I need something pretty thick. Touchscreen gloves have always felt a bit too clunky for me :(
Same page. The ONLY reason I finally upgraded was the mandatory USBC so I could finally nuke all my lightning cables (except one because I still have the occasional friend/coworker who needs it).
I don't plan on upgrading again if phones only get bigger unless I absolutely MUST.
On the technological side, the most interesting part is that this will be the first phone with Apple's 5G modem. It was feared for a while it would be vaporware, so it's good to see it's shippable. If it works well, hopefully it will appear in SKUs for devices like macbooks.
On the pricing, it is significantly more expensive than the old SE. But also much more capable. I also am expecting Apple to raise prices on the entire iPhones. Not only is there all the volatility from the maybe tariffs, but also, they've been keeping the price stable for far longer than you'd expect.
The iPhone 16, going for $800, is the CHEAPEST base line iPhone Apple ever made apart from the original iPhone, in real dollars. That's was never going to last. I expect $900 starting for the iPhone 17.
The iPhone 16 also has one of the smallest gaps in functionality to the Pro than any generation has had, in my opinion. This was the first year I contemplated a non-Pro. With the 16e being $200 less than the 16 and with great battery life, the 16e might be the best value iPhone for the average user Apple has ever had.
A lot of the speculation about the iPhone 16 and 16 Pro being so close together in terms of features and functionality is that they intend to keep the 16 around for a while as the progressively cheaper option in smaller, more price sensitive markets. They’ve done that before with the iPhone 5 and the iPad 2.
They do that with every generation though. They're still selling the iPhone 15, although that will likely go away next year when the 17 comes out. Maybe they'll keep the 16 around longer than they typically keep them around, but the SE line traditionally fulfills the role of long-lived cheap model.
They sometimes keep the older phones around, but in those cases specifically, they kept those devices around for a lot longer than normal because they could make them super cheap and sell a lot in more price sensitive countries and markets. The iPad 2 was sold from 2011 until 2016 because they sold them in bulk to schools for way below what the newer iPads cost.
I'm asking because I have no idea. Why would a phone have a 5G modem? Is this to put out a better hotspot signal?
Modem in this case for receiving the signal - which every phone has. It’s more accurate to say that this is the first iPhone with an apple-designed modem. Every phone for the last while has had a 5G modem - that’s not the interesting part. The idea is that since apple built it in-house, they can optimize for their phones and what they care about, theoretically getting better performance. Same reason apple does their own silicon (the chips) now - and it’s really worked out quite well for them.
Oh interesting thanks for sharing.
It’s to receive and send 5G cellular signals, which is fairly critical for modern phones.
The reason I was asking was because I wasn't sure what made it exciting. I figured this was a given for all modern phones. But it appears to be interesting because Apple made the parts.
I was ready to buy one of these, but I'm slightly disappointed about the size increase and very disappointed about the price increase. The SE used to be a good deal, and I've owned one of each generation. USB-C and better battery is great, but not worth a switch until my current phone dies.
I am impressed by the advertised battery life, but at the same time annoyed that I wouldn't be able to use this screen since I am one of the few people who struggle with getting headaches from looking at PWM. So I guess I'll have to even longer stick to my iPhone SE 3rd Gen.
Regarding the PWM headaches, I've always been curious about this. Do you get headaches relatively instantly when viewing the screen - and at all brightness levels? Or is it only at lower brightnesses?
Hey and thanks for asking. It’s not that these headaches start instantly. It's more that something feels off when I'm looking at screens that are dimmed via PWM. On the iPhone it often happens that when my eyes focus text, I notice a slight flicker in the edges. When I then try to focus the flicker, it disappears and the now out of focus part of the screen (the text) starts to flicker. This triggers something in my brain which makes just looking at the screen exhausting, which then leads to headaches and dizziness.
This is at normal brightness levels (less than 100%). When cranking it up, PWM gets disabled on most screens, so I don’t notice any flicker anymore, but of course have the problem that I am staring at a too bright screen.
I don't follow Apple phones, or all phone tech for that matter, but I am pleasantly surprised at the price of $599. I would never buy it, but I'm glad to see that there are actually affordable iPhones without a 9 year contract.
The floor's been raised quite a bit for a new iPhone considering the model this is replacing (third-generation iPhone SE) was $429 for the base version. Yes, the hardware's improved and the base storage is doubled, but for some people those extras putting it closer to the current "regular" iPhone aren't necessary.
Oh okay so a pretty big jump in price. Interesting
I was waiting for a iPhone SE with a USBC port :( to pair with a giant work iPhone
Anyone happen to know if there are still places to get the iPhone SE 3rd generation 256gb? I held off buying since I assumed this would be smaller and within the same price range, but I was wrong. Apple as always has removed it from their website.
Best option seems to be refurbished on amazon or ebay.
You might still find one at a local carrier's store.
Sold out. I may check nearby mom and pop tech stores to see if they have any remaining ones.
There's also Swappa, but there might not be many listings for the 256GB models.
I’ve never heard of this website. What has been your experience with it?
Swappa acts as a marketplace for individual sellers/businesses, so YMMV. The Swappa staff vet the listings and devices based on information/photos provided by the seller.
I haven't had any problems buying pre-owned devices every couple years over the past decade, but have noticed that there are a lot more shops/businesses selling on the site now. It used to be mostly people trying to offload their old or barely used devices.
I saw a couple SEs on there, if I can’t find anything local, then I may give this a try. My only hesitation is there batteries are already at 80%, so I’d likely have to look into what it would cost to swap that out.
I have bought and sold many things with it over the years. Nowadays, I think most sellers are companies not individuals, but all of my transactions have gone perfectly. I can highly recommend them.
I currently have a 14 Pro and it looks like the 16e is 0.03 inches shorter, and the same width and depth. (Assuming PhoneArena is accurate.)
I've yet to see any reason to upgrade. I don't care about the AI chip. My reported battery capacity is down to 86% but it's yet to be an issue for me.
At this rate I don't think I'll upgrade until the 18 comes out.
I mean it would be a weird upgrade path for you to go from a pro SKU to a budget SKU anyhow.
Fair enough. I generally lean into whatever deal I can get from the cellular service providers (including the budget option if needed). I'll jump ship from Verizon to T-Mobile again if they have a compelling trade-in deal, but that's still contingent on if it feels worth it to upgrade the phone.