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Lynn Conway, trailblazing trans computer scientist, dies at 85
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Elon Musk threatens to ban iPhones and MacBooks at his companies after Apple announces OpenAI partnership
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Hackers target AI users with malicious stable diffusion tool on Github to protest 'art theft'
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AI will become mathematicians’ ‘co-pilot’
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Discussing AI music - examples and some thoughts
I'm not sure if this would be better for ~music, ~tech, or what, but after messing around with Udio for a bit, I made some stuff I liked and wanted to get folks' thoughts. Imo, it's incredible to...
I'm not sure if this would be better for ~music, ~tech, or what, but after messing around with Udio for a bit, I made some stuff I liked and wanted to get folks' thoughts. Imo, it's incredible to be able to get music from a text prompt - it means I, as someone who is mostly ignorant to music production, can have my musical idea and actually render that out as music for someone to hear. I can think "damn that would be cool" and then in kind of a fuzzy way, make it happen then and there. Whether it's good, I don't know. That's not up to me, really, but it is the kind of sound I wanted to happen, so I'm left conflicted on how to feel about it. Figured it would be worthwhile to show folks some of it, and see what they think.
I do enjoy synth and metal, so there's a lot of that in these. Feel free to be as critical as you like. If I can apply your criticism I will try to do it, and if you want to see how that works out, I'll share.
- Cosmoterrestrial
- A Floyd, Pinkly
- Empire's Demise, Foretold
- Metal for Ghosts Bedsheet Edition (the very end of this one is hilariously appropriate)
- Multi-3DS Drifting
And here's a link to my profile, if you would like to browse. It will update too when I put more up.
They're all instrumental. Lyrical music is less appealing to me in general and Udio's voices do sound kinda weird to me more often than not. The way I made the tracks, I would start with a clip combining some genres/moods, and then add to either end of the clip until I had a complete song. Along the way, I could introduce new elements/transitions by using more text/tweaking various settings and flipping "manual mode" on and off. The results were fuzzy; I didn't always get what I wanted, but I could keep trying until I did, or until I got something that sounded "better". I wrote all the titles after the song was finished. The album art is from a text prompt.
I'm not sure what I think, to be honest. On the one hand, a lot of the creative decision-making wasn't mine. On the other, the song would not be what it is without me making decisions about how it came about and what feelings/moods/genres were focused upon/utilized. I think the best I can say is "use the tool and see whether it's enough to count". To me it feels almost 50/50, like I've "collaborated with my computer" rather than "made music". Does it matter? If the sound is the intended sound, the sound I hoped to make and wanted to share, is that enough to say it is "my music"? Is this perhaps just what it looks like to be a beginner in a different paradigm?
When I used Suno, I had a much more rigid opinion. What it produced, I called "computer spit". Because, all I could actually control was telling it to continue, changing the prompt, and giving it structure/genre tags that felt like a coin flip in terms of effectiveness. I had a really hard time trying to get it to keep/recall melody, and my attempts to guide it along felt more like gambling than deliberate decisions. It also couldn't keep enough in context to make the overall song consistent with respect to instrumentation. It's different with Udio, both because you have a lot of additional tools, and because it feels like those tools work more consistently at making the model do what you want. I still call the results "computer spit" where I've shown them off, but I'm unsure now whether the production has enough of myself in it to be something more. Perhaps not on the same level as something someone produced by playing an instrument, or choosing samples/arranging things in software, but also not quite the same as the computer just rolling along, with me going "thumbs up" or "thumbs down". Maybe these distinctions don't actually matter, but I'd be curious if anyone has thoughts along these lines.
I'm intentionally trying to avoid a discussion about the morality of the thing or what political/social ramifications it has, not because I don't care about that but because I'm in the middle of trying to understand the tool and what its results mean. Would you consider what I've posted here work I could claim as my own, or do you think the computer has enough of a role to say it's not? Is my role in the production large enough? Or perhaps you have a stronger position, that nothing the computer can possibly do in this way counts as original music. Does any of this change that position for you? I ask because I've gone through a lot of opinions myself as I've been following things, and one interesting bit is that I have not gotten any copyright notices when I've uploaded the music to Youtube (I did get notices with Suno's music). As far as I can tell, with what is available to me, this is all original.
And of course, the most important one: Did you like it? Is there something you think would make them better? Do they all suffer from something I'm not seeing/hearing? I'm not an expert technician nor a music producer, so perhaps my ignorant ears are leading me astray. Either way, I've had a ton of fun doing this, and the results to my ear are fun to listen to while I'm doing stuff. I wouldn't call any of it the best music I've ever heard, but I can also think of a lot that is worse. I think what I wonder the most is whether it comes off bland/plain. Most of the folks I show things to are a bit too caught up in being astounded/disturbed to really give me much feedback, so perhaps putting the request in this form will work out a bit better - ya'll have time to think on it.
As always, your time and attention is greatly appreciated
Edit: I should clarify. I am not attempting to be a musician. Hence calling it "computer spit" with anything public, and the lack of any effort to pitch it as something I did only on my own. Rather, I recognize the limit of my own understanding, and felt I'd hit a point where my ignorance of production meant I could not judge the results as well as I'd like. That means it's time to engage some folks because folks out there are likely to know what I do not and see things I can't. From that angle, a lot of the discussion is very interesting, and I'll be responding to those in a bit. But there's no need to argue for doing the work - I recognize that. I'm trying to see past my own horizons with a medium I don't put the work into. I'm a consumer of music, not a creator, so getting some perspective from folks more acquainted with creating and with the technology is really what I'm after in sharing the experience.
Edit again: Thank you all for a very interesting discussion. I had a spare evening/morning and this was a good use of it. For the sake of tying a bow on the whole thing, I'll share my takeaways as succinctly as I can manage.
It seems, at present, and at best, the role these tools can play is of a sort of personal noise generator. The output is not of sufficient interest, quality, complexity, etc., to really be regarded the same as human-produced music, is the overall impression I have been left with. And for other reasons, it may be that the fuzziness of it all is a permanent feature, and thus a permanent constraint on how far toward "authentic" the results can ever get. I was trying to avoid a discussion about my own creativity, the value of doing work, societal ramifications, etc., so I'll work on how to present things better. For what it's worth, this has all been part of what I do creatively - my area of study was philosophy, and the goal of that to my mind has always been "achieving clarity". So I am attempting to achieve clarity with things as they develop, as a hobby sort of interest while I'm busy doing completely different stuff and to better protect my own mind against dumb marketing and hype. So once again, I appreciate you all taking the time, and I wish you all well in all the things you do.
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DeGoogling 2024: Replacing Photos, Gmail, and Search
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E-ink tablets for note-taking
I like to write notes for work and sketch/draw in my spare time. I'm about to finish another paper notebook, and I noticed a few ads for the ReMarkable & decided to check it out. A few YouTube...
I like to write notes for work and sketch/draw in my spare time. I'm about to finish another paper notebook, and I noticed a few ads for the ReMarkable & decided to check it out. A few YouTube videos later, I'm now quite interested in getting an e-ink tablet to replace the notebooks I've been going through.
Thing is, with this type of technology I'm always a bit worried that I won't use it enough to justify the price. If anyone has one of those - have they managed to replace the classic paper/pen combo for you? Do you regret your purchase or are you happy with it?
If anyone is curious, I was specifically looking at the ReMarkable 2 and the Supernote Nomad. The ReMarkable seems to be the most popular choice, but I really like how the Supernote emphasizes repairability (notably, the battery is replaceable). I'm also very much open to other suggestions if you have any!
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Thoughts on VR?
Are there any other people on Tildes who regularly use VR? What has the experience been like for you? Which headset do you own? What do you use it for? Do you use it regularly? Any...
Are there any other people on Tildes who regularly use VR?
- What has the experience been like for you?
- Which headset do you own?
- What do you use it for?
- Do you use it regularly?
- Any favorite/recommended games/apps?
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New York passes legislation that would ban 'addictive' social media algorithms for kids
51 votes -
Publishers sue Google over pirate sites selling textbooks
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BenQ W1110 3D DLP
Hi people, I have the chance to pick up an unused BenQ W1110 (BenQ HT2050 in the U.S). I don't have any interest in 4k nor 3d, I only need it for 1080p blu ray. It's listed at 200 EUR. Do you...
Hi people,
I have the chance to pick up an unused BenQ W1110 (BenQ HT2050 in the U.S). I don't have any interest in 4k nor 3d, I only need it for 1080p blu ray. It's listed at 200 EUR. Do you think it's a fair price for what I need? Bulb life is only 2,500 hours, but replacements are 100 EUR or so, so not so steep. Anyone out there recommend I hold off? Know of other options? I'd be happy to spend around 600-700 EUR for the right unit. The only primary considerations are that it can produce 1080p, and is quiet (important).
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CodeAid: A classroom deployment of an LLM-based programming assistant
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AI: The decade ahead
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The latest AI use cases appear to be built specifically for managers and executives, and literally nobody else
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OpenAI insiders warn of a ‘reckless’ race for dominance
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Buttondown: Newsletter software for people like you and me
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Watch a six-axis motor solve a Rubik’s Cube in less than a third of a second
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Rabbit R1 it's a scam
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Autonomy co-founder Mike Lynch cleared of fraud [in $11bn Hewlett-Packard takeover]
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Founder burnout
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Nebula strikes deal with Spotify to stream video content
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AMD officially confirms no more Windows 10 chipset driver and support for next gen Ryzen
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What's next for Kagi?
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The leak of an internal Google database reveals thousands of potential privacy and security issues reported by employees
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How influencer cartels manipulate social media: Fraudulent behaviour hidden in plain sight
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Hands-on: Frame by Brilliant Labs is a disappointing stepping stone to something better
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Build small, play big – Introducing Small Form Factor-ready enthusiast GeForce cards and compatible cases
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Hundreds of thousands of US internet routers destroyed in newly discovered 2023 hack
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All Santander staff and 'thirty million' customers in Spain, Chile and Uruguay hacked
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YouTube seems to once again be rolling out its widely hated new web redesign
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The invisible seafaring industry that keeps the internet going
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Ex-OpenAI board member reveals what led to Sam Altman's brief ousting
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Using a desktop monitor outside
Hiya folks, I work remotely, and I've got a little deck with a table and umbrella that I like to work at for most of the summer. The trouble is, my umbrella can never be fully angled to shade me...
Hiya folks,
I work remotely, and I've got a little deck with a table and umbrella that I like to work at for most of the summer. The trouble is, my umbrella can never be fully angled to shade me from the sun.
I find my laptop screen (13") to be woeful for working on outside. Not only is it tiny and promotes bad posture, it also doesn't have amazing brightness. Lots of squinting and hunching, depending on the sun!
Every monitor in my house it turns out is 350 nits, except my laptop screen, which is 500 nits.
Does anyone have practical experience lugging a monitor outside and working on it during the sunny day? If so, what brightness gets you over the usability threshold?
It seems like I could get a 1000 nit monitor relatively easily. Anything above 1000 the market seems to narrow quite quickly.
21 votes -
Data centers set to consume 9% of US electricity by 2030
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How are you dealing with AI generated results in your searches?
I'm finding it more and more frustrating having to parse the things I'm actually looking for from what feels like a deluge of rubbish. Are there any strategies, extensions, add-ons, etc that...
I'm finding it more and more frustrating having to parse the things I'm actually looking for from what feels like a deluge of rubbish. Are there any strategies, extensions, add-ons, etc that people are using to filter results?
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Mozilla is adding vertical tabs, profile management, and local AI to Firefox
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Spotify won’t open-source to-be-bricked Car Thing, but starts refund process amid lawsuit
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Carpenter's AirTags help uncover 'massive' case of stolen tools in Maryland
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In a first, OpenAI removes influence operations tied to Russia, China and Israel
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AI is making economists rethink the story of automation
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ICQ is shutting down after almost twenty-eight years
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Microsoft developer demos .NET on the NES — delivers .NES
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Minnesota repeals law that protected ISPs from municipal competition
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Will Microsoft want to introduce a subscription fee to their Windows OS in the future?
Just had a chat with friends about the possibility and how it would likely be introduced. Paraphrased into the following; 2.99$/Month OEM installs have a 2 year license Upgrades are free for the...
Just had a chat with friends about the possibility and how it would likely be introduced.
Paraphrased into the following;
2.99$/Month
OEM installs have a 2 year license
Upgrades are free for the first year (from 11 to the new)
Comes with Office 365 and AI functionality to soften the blowWhat are your thoughts on this?
30 votes -
Surveilling the masses with wi-fi-based positioning systems
15 votes -
'I was misidentified as shoplifter by facial recognition tech'
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War safety - Home assistant config by Denys Dovhan
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Google just updated its algorithm. The Internet will never be the same.
56 votes -
These autonomous drones can recharge themselves from power lines
15 votes