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Don't talk to the police

5 comments

  1. vord
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    In song form, for a quality tldw. Do watch the big one though, its chock full of good advice. Has added bonus with examples for insurance companies and civil suits too. Meta thought: Have an...

    In song form, for a quality tldw. Do watch the big one though, its chock full of good advice.

    Has added bonus with examples for insurance companies and civil suits too.

    Meta thought: Have an autotomatic post which links to prior discussions on the duplicate post tag.

    3 votes
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    mat
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    It seems a little sad to me that someone would feel the need to promote this sort of relationship with the people who (in theory) exist to protect the society they live in. All the times I've...

    It seems a little sad to me that someone would feel the need to promote this sort of relationship with the people who (in theory) exist to protect the society they live in. All the times I've interacted with the police - especially in the instances when I've been the one in the wrong - they've been perfectly reasonable, helpful people. Talk to the police, they're just people doing their jobs and they don't want the paperwork of dealing with you unless they have no alternative. They're not trying to trick you. They're too busy for that. Lawyers like the guy in the video, on the other hand...

    I would trust the police over a lawyer almost every time. I've never dealt with a lawyer who isn't as slippery as a fish. I know I can pay them to be slippery for me, but they're only ever really out for their own bank balances.

    I am aware the way cops and justice works in the USA is rather different.

    3 votes
    1. chocobean
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      I used to be like you: I would walk up to officers and encouraged my kid to ask them for K9 stickers, and I still tell the kid if they really need help for the most part we have the privilege to...

      I used to be like you: I would walk up to officers and encouraged my kid to ask them for K9 stickers, and I still tell the kid if they really need help for the most part we have the privilege to more than likely recieve help.

      I have happily hired extremely helpful lawyers. Lawyers are like doctors and teachers and social workers in that truly have your best interest at heart, but lawyers are the only ones who ONLY work for you and not some middle outcome best for keeping peace/ conserve resources / good for everyone. I don't find them slimey at all, and they are experts at protecting my rights in all the ways in which things could go wrong. (My limited experiences are with civil eg reproductive rights family lawyer, real estate, employment and estate lawyers. Cant speak for criminal types but I will 100% get a lawyer before talking to police.)

      Expecting them to be helpful is a privilege. The police do not work for us. They have no duty to protect -- A positive interaction is a privilege, not a given.

      It's okay not to live in fear, but it's not okay to live in privileged ignorance. I would encourage everyone to watch this video

      Edit: for nicer tone and civil vs criminal lawyers

      13 votes
    2. Akir
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      I have never had a positive outcome from an encounter with the police. They have only ever managed to make a situation worse, and usually exponentially so. The best encounter I have had with...

      I have never had a positive outcome from an encounter with the police. They have only ever managed to make a situation worse, and usually exponentially so. The best encounter I have had with police was at work, where they asked for video footage for a robbers who were never caught.

      6 votes
    3. l_one
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      So, I have some questions for you. I wish to preface this by stating I am asking these in good faith, and I do not mean them as any kind of attack against you or your statement of personal...

      All the times I've interacted with the police - especially in the instances when I've been the one in the wrong - they've been perfectly reasonable, helpful people.

      So, I have some questions for you. I wish to preface this by stating I am asking these in good faith, and I do not mean them as any kind of attack against you or your statement of personal positive experience. I'm very happy for you that those encounters have been reasonable and not gone badly for you.

      What country do you live in?
      What is your: Race, Gender, Age or (or age range at time of police encounters).
      What is (or was at the time of police encounters) your approximate income level, and did your appearance / clothing / vehicle / other reflect that.

      I understand these can be personal and intrusive questions, and I also understand if you don't want to answer any of them - completely fine if you don't - but different answers to these questions can statistically lead to dramatically different outcomes with police encounters of otherwise the same initial nature.

      People can have prejudices, police are people, and police are very often in the position to get both cynical and worn down into an adversarial mindset. Prejudicial judgement 'at a glance' based on the mentioned characteristics (Race/Gender/Age/Socioeconomic Status) can, and do, happen.

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