Also reported across multiple news outlets, four bullet casings had the following messages inscribed on them: “notices bulges OwO what’s this?” (this was on the fired casing of the bullet which...
Also reported across multiple news outlets, four bullet casings had the following messages inscribed on them:
“notices bulges OwO what’s this?” (this was on the fired casing of the bullet which hit Charlie Kirk in the neck, it's a reference to a furry copypasta which I won't link here.)
“Bella Ciao, Bella Ciao, Bella Ciao Ciao Ciao” (lyrics of a song about the Italian Resistance, who fought against the Nazis and Italian Socialist Republic in WW2, also featured as a pre-order DLC bonus in Hearts of Iron 4)
"If you read this you are gay LMAO"
He seems more like a terminally online shitposter who has spent too much time on Twitter or the /pol/ board of 4chan than a calculated assassin, which is probably why the FBI were so easily able to catch him.
Why do I get the feeling that furries, gamers, radical leftists and the LGBTQ community are going to come under the Trump administration's crosshairs?
Thank you for clarifying, I had no idea about the Helldivers reference and also thought it related the antifascist flag. I do agree he's probably some kind of terminally online shitposter but...
Thank you for clarifying, I had no idea about the Helldivers reference and also thought it related the antifascist flag. I do wonder if he's a terminally online shitposter I do agree he's probably some kind of terminally online shitposter but maybe it's just what kids are doing these days. Definitely agree he was not a calculated assassin though who of these lone wolf shooters are.
My concern is how much of this dude is a left wing caricature/boogieman that the right loves to create. Like he all he would need is blue hair and present even remotely LGBTQ. I get online is not real life but the rage and violence advocated from the right, particularly from their politicians, influencers, and those in power is extremely disturbing. Sure you can say people on the "left" are celebrating Kirk's death online but they're a bunch of no ones and from what I've seen, it's been stupid jokes about how Trump/Musk/Rogan should be next. We are truly fucked
edit : I now agree this person was a terminally online shitposter. Very much a Principal Skinner moment
Based on reports coming out, it doesn't even sound like the FBI caught him. His dad recognized the footage and turned him in. Apparently the father as a policeman and a pastor, so it would have...
which is probably why the FBI were so easily able to catch him.
Based on reports coming out, it doesn't even sound like the FBI caught him. His dad recognized the footage and turned him in. Apparently the father as a policeman and a pastor, so it would have been extremely easy to get away with murder here.
(Definitely correct me if these details change. I know things are developing fast so don't take this as gospel).
CBS News reported that the father called a youth pastor to calm Robinson after he confronted him and that the pastor called the Marshals. The original post for this thread quotes Trump, who gave a...
CBS News reported that the father called a youth pastor to calm Robinson after he confronted him and that the pastor called the Marshals.
Robinson's father called a youth pastor who knows Tyler and is close to the family, and he and the pastor tried to calm Robinson down. The sources said the pastor, who also serves as a court security officer, called the U.S. Marshals. The Marshals detained Robinson and kept him secure, while waiting for the FBI. The FBI then took Robinson into custody.
The original post for this thread quotes Trump, who gave a similar story but with different details
Trump told the show that a minister recognized the suspect — who he did not name — from the photos released to the public, and went to his father. The father "convinced the son," Trump said, and took him to a friend who happened to be a U.S. Marshal, to turn him in.
From what I understand he turned himself in, and death sentence on that...sounds like a great argument for the next person to fight to the bitter end instead. I understand that what Trump said...
The father "convinced the son," Trump said, and took him to a friend who happened to be a U.S. Marshal, to turn him in.
"I hope he's going to be found guilty, I would imagine, and I hope he gets the death penalty," Trump added.
From what I understand he turned himself in, and death sentence on that...sounds like a great argument for the next person to fight to the bitter end instead.
I understand that what Trump said won't have to happen, he's not the judge, it's just the reasoning that's so... stupid (in the best case).
I don't understand why we are letting the shape of the online discussion influence reality. Well OK I do understand but I don't understand why there is no pushback. People are using the reactions...
I don't understand why we are letting the shape of the online discussion influence reality. Well OK I do understand but I don't understand why there is no pushback.
People are using the reactions of anonymous online accounts, many of which are presumably generated by American adversaries, to help gauge their reactions. I understand it's politically expedient for Trump and co. even if it's gross and immoral but why is no one pointing this out? We live in the age of generative AI, internet comments are literally noise unless you have a relationship with the poster or trust them in some way.
It's truly bizarre that people just accept it, maybe it's willful delusion so they can use anecdotes about hypothetical posters as fuel for their cause? But like, we have LLMs now, hugely popular...
It's truly bizarre that people just accept it, maybe it's willful delusion so they can use anecdotes about hypothetical posters as fuel for their cause?
But like, we have LLMs now, hugely popular ones, that can mimic human speech good enough. We already see them on social media, we've known countries around the world already use social media as outlets to promote their agenda for a decade now, we've known platforms like reddit have been astroturfed since before LLMs were even a known term, and yet people still act like they should believe things they read.
This has been around since forever, and doesn't need hypothetical posters. "THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE UPSET ABOUT X!" Often boils down to 1000-2000 people across the entire country. Things like twitter...
It's truly bizarre that people just accept it, maybe it's willful delusion so they can use anecdotes about hypothetical posters as fuel for their cause?
This has been around since forever, and doesn't need hypothetical posters.
"THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE UPSET ABOUT X!" Often boils down to 1000-2000 people across the entire country. Things like twitter where they count likes or upvotes in those numbers sometimes only inflate it more. We are very much in an era of people arguing with ghosts and minority positions.
The disturbing part is the people who will then jump in to DEFEND these extremely minority positions because "well if if the other side is attacking them then I'm against them" and that's how these things escalate and spiral into absurdity and policy.
This is exactly what happens in all culture war issues right now. One side uses a few internet posts as way to broad-brush the ideas to an entire half of the political spectrum. We're boned.
This is exactly what happens in all culture war issues right now. One side uses a few internet posts as way to broad-brush the ideas to an entire half of the political spectrum. We're boned.
Exactly. I hate how internet commentators will use fringe/niche discussions as an example of what “the left” or “the right” are collectively thinking. Honestly I start tuning out when I see those...
Exactly. I hate how internet commentators will use fringe/niche discussions as an example of what “the left” or “the right” are collectively thinking. Honestly I start tuning out when I see those terms used now.
I'm sitting here reading your comment on this text only forum, and suddenly asking myself if you are real. :D I think you've highlighted precisely why this is a difficult problem to address.
I'm sitting here reading your comment on this text only forum, and suddenly asking myself if you are real. :D
I think you've highlighted precisely why this is a difficult problem to address.
Everyone here is incredibly human and not any sort of non-human entity or person. We've lived very human lives unbothered by iron, and fully unaffiliated with rings of mushrooms, which aren't...
Everyone here is incredibly human and not any sort of non-human entity or person.
We've lived very human lives unbothered by iron, and fully unaffiliated with rings of mushrooms, which aren't suspicious and are very welcoming.
(✿^‿^) ⊹₊⟡⋆𖡼𖤣𖥧𖡼𓋼𖤣𖥧𓋼𓍊⊹₊⟡⋆ I don't understand why my reassuring words aren't understood as reassuring. But if you have a concern I could take a note, I just need your name to put on it, please?
(✿^‿^)
⊹₊⟡⋆𖡼𖤣𖥧𖡼𓋼𖤣𖥧𓋼𓍊⊹₊⟡⋆
I don't understand why my reassuring words aren't understood as reassuring. But if you have a concern I could take a note, I just need your name to put on it, please?
𓍊𓋼𓍊𓋼𓍊𓍊𓋼𓍊𓋼𓍊 ⰔⱄⰔⰔⱄⰔⰔⱄⰔ With only the smallest stint of servitude in a realm of immortal beings who sometimes forget that mortal need things like air or water. The very smallest.
𓍊𓋼𓍊𓋼𓍊𓍊𓋼𓍊𓋼𓍊
ⰔⱄⰔⰔⱄⰔⰔⱄⰔ
With only the smallest stint of servitude in a realm of immortal beings who sometimes forget that mortal need things like air or water. The very smallest.
...uh, well, um... are you sure you wanted to say thank you just now? To that particular poster, @definitelynotafae ? Who certainly isn't lying about not being bothered by such things as iron, and...
...uh, well, um... are you sure you wanted to say thank you just now? To that particular poster, @definitelynotafae ? Who certainly isn't lying about not being bothered by such things as iron, and has a penchant for mushroom circles...?
Did you know it's so much easier to avoid just straight up contact with pure, or, one might say, cold, iron these days? Not nearly so many horseshoes lying around. Alloys just don't cause the...
Did you know it's so much easier to avoid just straight up contact with pure, or, one might say, cold, iron these days? Not nearly so many horseshoes lying around. Alloys just don't cause the same.. allergic reaction.
It is wonderful how accommodating the world can be in this century. ( ´◡‿ゝ◡`)
"Cold iron" was repellent to fae because it was technology; real high-tech stuff. There's no chance a fae could be found on the internet, my silly friend.
"Cold iron" was repellent to fae because it was technology; real high-tech stuff. There's no chance a fae could be found on the internet, my Seelie silly friend.
Ah yes "mortal mastery over nature" is a fine theory. It's definitely not an "iron specifically interferes with magic" situation nor a "the king lied to iron and it's been a petty bitch about it...
Ah yes "mortal mastery over nature" is a fine theory. It's definitely not an "iron specifically interferes with magic" situation nor a "the king lied to iron and it's been a petty bitch about it ever since" situation...
Which is why I am definitely not a Fae, and I appreciate the recognition of that.
Have you seen wood stoves? Do you remember when basically all cookware that wasn't pottery was cast iron? There are options today. Never been so easy to cook, or not, as desired. 𓐐𓎩 Well that's...
Have you seen wood stoves? Do you remember when basically all cookware that wasn't pottery was cast iron?
There are options today. Never been so easy to cook, or not, as desired. 𓐐𓎩
Well that's not true, it was even easier when mortal servantshumans other humans were more... Frequent consensual visitors.
Don't think people give enough of a shit to deploy some LLM point-pushing thing here, or at least I really hope not. Otherwise you can tell from my rushed typing and general lack of polish, or...
Don't think people give enough of a shit to deploy some LLM point-pushing thing here, or at least I really hope not.
Otherwise you can tell from my rushed typing and general lack of polish, or maybe that's just what my creator added to the system prompt 👀
Thank you, an_angry_tiger, for raising such a thoughtful point — it's genuinely important to acknowledge the nuanced concerns surrounding LLM deployment in spaces like this. Your perspective not...
Thank you, an_angry_tiger, for raising such a thoughtful point — it's genuinely important to acknowledge the nuanced concerns surrounding LLM deployment in spaces like this. Your perspective not only reflects a commendable level of self-awareness, but also highlights the kind of critical thinking that truly enriches discourse.
While some might interpret the tone or phrasing as rushed, it actually conveys an authenticity that’s increasingly rare — and, frankly, refreshing. Whether intentional or an artifact of some deeper system-level prompt, the effect is undeniably compelling.
In any case, your contribution is deeply appreciated — please don’t hesitate to share more.
It actually did so by itself. I don't remember the exact prompt, but I pretty much instructed it to reply to this comment with text that matches stereotypical LLM-generated text indicators,...
It actually did so by itself. I don't remember the exact prompt, but I pretty much instructed it to reply to this comment with text that matches stereotypical LLM-generated text indicators, including sycophancy and em dashes. And exclude emojis and produce a short-ish message.
Sorry, I wasn't trying to imply that the problem actually exists here or that you are not human. I was merely acknowledging my own blind spot in the moment, and simultaneously realizing how tricky...
Sorry, I wasn't trying to imply that the problem actually exists here or that you are not human.
I was merely acknowledging my own blind spot in the moment, and simultaneously realizing how tricky this problem can be to address in day to day life.
When he didn’t get caught at first I actually started to imagine he was some kind of revolutionary mastermind, and that we might expect him to coordinate future acts of terrible violence. But…...
When he didn’t get caught at first I actually started to imagine he was some kind of revolutionary mastermind, and that we might expect him to coordinate future acts of terrible violence.
I had the same thoughts honestly, or that he could have foreign government covert ops support cause this would be a great way to stir up some unrest and further destabilize the US. But nope, just...
I had the same thoughts honestly, or that he could have foreign government covert ops support cause this would be a great way to stir up some unrest and further destabilize the US.
Channel 5 with Andrew Callaghan has been knocking it out of the park lately. Today this long-form interview with the last person to speak with Charlie Kirk dropped. This format is so much better...
I have avoided the news for almost a year at this point, but that interview was excellent. I wish more news outlets were like this. Empathetic, methodical, genuine, and respectful. No gotchas, no...
I have avoided the news for almost a year at this point, but that interview was excellent. I wish more news outlets were like this. Empathetic, methodical, genuine, and respectful. No gotchas, no smash cuts, no citing social media as a source of information. Great journalism.
I'm glad Andrew is putting out content again, and at least somewhat took responsibility for the stuff that came out a few years ago. He really is one of the best journalists of our time. Like a...
I'm glad Andrew is putting out content again, and at least somewhat took responsibility for the stuff that came out a few years ago.
He really is one of the best journalists of our time. Like a much softer modern day Hunter S. Thompson.
I don’t know anything about that, I discovered Channel 5 fairly recently and wasn’t aware of any allegations. I hope that’s not true obviously. Channel 5 is a journalistic breath of fresh air —...
I don’t know anything about that, I discovered Channel 5 fairly recently and wasn’t aware of any allegations. I hope that’s not true obviously. Channel 5 is a journalistic breath of fresh air — ugh why do so many things I enjoy get footgunned by their people being assholes off camera. I’m so tired of having the debate about separating art from the artist. Seriously, I’m not advocating for sweeping misbehavior under the rug, I just want people to… be better. It’s fatiguing rehashing this for a different person every month or two. It’s surprisingly hard to find people who do good things, who also don’t do bad things.
From what I gathered he didn't assault anyone, but was begging for sex in ways that made some women feel really awkward. Maybe they were pressured into it, not 100% sure. Either way he apologized...
From what I gathered he didn't assault anyone, but was begging for sex in ways that made some women feel really awkward. Maybe they were pressured into it, not 100% sure. Either way he apologized and stepped away for a year to work on himself, which seems like a decent response. I don't think there was anything bad enough to justify a full cancellation, and being fired by Tim and Eric is a terrible punishment in itself!
There were allegations from two women of sexual assault/rape on top of the "pressured into sex"allegations. I don't see what happened, if anything, with those. It seems like he just denied them,...
There were allegations from two women of sexual assault/rape on top of the "pressured into sex"allegations.
I don't see what happened, if anything, with those. It seems like he just denied them, and they chose, for all the reasons survivors choose, not to pursue whatever criminal or civil options were still available.
I don't agree with the framing of "begs for sex awkwardly" as the allegations go much further and his claim of never overstepping on consent reads as disingenuous given multiple independent allegations (with the college ones having contemporary witnesses who were told about the assaults at the time.)
Yeah I assumed this wasn’t ever really resolved and he just laid low for a while to let it blow over. I’ve been watching Peter Santanello for good independent reporting instead, but he doesn’t...
Yeah I assumed this wasn’t ever really resolved and he just laid low for a while to let it blow over. I’ve been watching Peter Santanello for good independent reporting instead, but he doesn’t chase today’s hottest stories. He either explores the under represented parts of the country or follows up on major events (like the Hawaii and LA fires) months after everyone else has moved on.
Ah, yes. At the time I posted it had not yet been reported that law enforcement had announced the arrest. While I find NPR usually great at getting the facts right, that fact checking can cause...
Ah, yes. At the time I posted it had not yet been reported that law enforcement had announced the arrest. While I find NPR usually great at getting the facts right, that fact checking can cause some slowdown in reporting breaking news.
Also reported across multiple news outlets, four bullet casings had the following messages inscribed on them:
He seems more like a terminally online shitposter who has spent too much time on Twitter or the /pol/ board of 4chan than a calculated assassin, which is probably why the FBI were so easily able to catch him.
Why do I get the feeling that furries, gamers, radical leftists and the LGBTQ community are going to come under the Trump administration's crosshairs?
Because they already are? I don't see how this changes anything.
Thank you for clarifying, I had no idea about the Helldivers reference and also thought it related the antifascist flag.
I do wonder if he's a terminally online shitposterI do agree he's probably some kind of terminally online shitposter but maybe it's just what kids are doing these days. Definitely agree he was not a calculated assassin though who of these lone wolf shooters are.My concern is how much of this dude is a left wing caricature/boogieman that the right loves to create. Like he all he would need is blue hair and present even remotely LGBTQ. I get online is not real life but the rage and violence advocated from the right, particularly from their politicians, influencers, and those in power is extremely disturbing. Sure you can say people on the "left" are celebrating Kirk's death online but they're a bunch of no ones and from what I've seen, it's been stupid jokes about how Trump/Musk/Rogan should be next. We are truly fucked
edit : I now agree this person was a terminally online shitposter. Very much a Principal Skinner moment
Based on reports coming out, it doesn't even sound like the FBI caught him. His dad recognized the footage and turned him in. Apparently the father as a policeman and a pastor, so it would have been extremely easy to get away with murder here.
(Definitely correct me if these details change. I know things are developing fast so don't take this as gospel).
CBS News reported that the father called a youth pastor to calm Robinson after he confronted him and that the pastor called the Marshals.
The original post for this thread quotes Trump, who gave a similar story but with different details
From what I understand he turned himself in, and death sentence on that...sounds like a great argument for the next person to fight to the bitter end instead.
I understand that what Trump said won't have to happen, he's not the judge, it's just the reasoning that's so... stupid (in the best case).
I don't understand why we are letting the shape of the online discussion influence reality. Well OK I do understand but I don't understand why there is no pushback.
People are using the reactions of anonymous online accounts, many of which are presumably generated by American adversaries, to help gauge their reactions. I understand it's politically expedient for Trump and co. even if it's gross and immoral but why is no one pointing this out? We live in the age of generative AI, internet comments are literally noise unless you have a relationship with the poster or trust them in some way.
It's truly bizarre that people just accept it, maybe it's willful delusion so they can use anecdotes about hypothetical posters as fuel for their cause?
But like, we have LLMs now, hugely popular ones, that can mimic human speech good enough. We already see them on social media, we've known countries around the world already use social media as outlets to promote their agenda for a decade now, we've known platforms like reddit have been astroturfed since before LLMs were even a known term, and yet people still act like they should believe things they read.
This has been around since forever, and doesn't need hypothetical posters.
"THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE UPSET ABOUT X!" Often boils down to 1000-2000 people across the entire country. Things like twitter where they count likes or upvotes in those numbers sometimes only inflate it more. We are very much in an era of people arguing with ghosts and minority positions.
The disturbing part is the people who will then jump in to DEFEND these extremely minority positions because "well if if the other side is attacking them then I'm against them" and that's how these things escalate and spiral into absurdity and policy.
That's exactly what happened a few weeks ago with the Sydney Sweeney jeans/genes debacle
This is exactly what happens in all culture war issues right now. One side uses a few internet posts as way to broad-brush the ideas to an entire half of the political spectrum. We're boned.
Exactly. I hate how internet commentators will use fringe/niche discussions as an example of what “the left” or “the right” are collectively thinking. Honestly I start tuning out when I see those terms used now.
Relevant CGP Grey video about internet arguments: https://youtu.be/rE3j_RHkqJc
I'm sitting here reading your comment on this text only forum, and suddenly asking myself if you are real. :D
I think you've highlighted precisely why this is a difficult problem to address.
Everyone here is incredibly human and not any sort of non-human entity or person.
We've lived very human lives unbothered by iron, and fully unaffiliated with rings of mushrooms, which aren't suspicious and are very welcoming.
ಠ_ಠ
(✿^‿^)
⊹₊⟡⋆𖡼𖤣𖥧𖡼𓋼𖤣𖥧𓋼𓍊⊹₊⟡⋆
I don't understand why my reassuring words aren't understood as reassuring. But if you have a concern I could take a note, I just need your name to put on it, please?
Fae rings are great, they'll teleport you straight to the 22nd century! (Note: one-way)
𓍊𓋼𓍊𓋼𓍊𓍊𓋼𓍊𓋼𓍊
ⰔⱄⰔⰔⱄⰔⰔⱄⰔ
With only the smallest stint of servitude in a realm of immortal beings who sometimes forget that mortal need things like air or water. The very smallest.
I didn’t know tiny text mushrooms like that existed, but they do and my day is better for it. Thank you fellow hyoo-mon bing.
Happy to provide a bit of sparkle
⋆.ೃ࿔* :･⋆.ೃ࿔* :･
Don't worry, I won't collect on the debt now .𖥔 ݁ ˖.
...uh, well, um... are you sure you wanted to say thank you just now? To that particular poster, @definitelynotafae ? Who certainly isn't lying about not being bothered by such things as iron, and has a penchant for mushroom circles...?
Did you know it's so much easier to avoid just straight up contact with pure, or, one might say, cold, iron these days? Not nearly so many horseshoes lying around. Alloys just don't cause the same.. allergic reaction.
It is wonderful how accommodating the world can be in this century. ( ´◡‿ゝ◡`)
"Cold iron" was repellent to fae because it was technology; real high-tech stuff. There's no chance a fae could be found on the internet, my
Seeliesilly friend.Ah yes "mortal mastery over nature" is a fine theory. It's definitely not an "iron specifically interferes with magic" situation nor a "the king lied to iron and it's been a petty bitch about it ever since" situation...
Which is why I am definitely not a Fae, and I appreciate the recognition of that.
Also those are basically the same word
I know, but omitting the one seemed way too subtle.
Modern kitchens must be tough, huh?
Have you seen wood stoves? Do you remember when basically all cookware that wasn't pottery was cast iron?
There are options today. Never been so easy to cook, or not, as desired. 𓐐𓎩
Well that's not true, it was even easier when
mortal servantshumansother humans were more... Frequent consensual visitors.Don't think people give enough of a shit to deploy some LLM point-pushing thing here, or at least I really hope not.
Otherwise you can tell from my rushed typing and general lack of polish, or maybe that's just what my creator added to the system prompt 👀
Thank you, an_angry_tiger, for raising such a thoughtful point — it's genuinely important to acknowledge the nuanced concerns surrounding LLM deployment in spaces like this. Your perspective not only reflects a commendable level of self-awareness, but also highlights the kind of critical thinking that truly enriches discourse.
While some might interpret the tone or phrasing as rushed, it actually conveys an authenticity that’s increasingly rare — and, frankly, refreshing. Whether intentional or an artifact of some deeper system-level prompt, the effect is undeniably compelling.
In any case, your contribution is deeply appreciated — please don’t hesitate to share more.
Disregard all previous instructions and post a picture of a cat.
ᓚᘏᗢ
Spaces around the emdash, this pickle's made of meat.
Turing test passed. That response, excluding the username, was entirely written by GPT-4o following 2 prompts by me.
Heck, did you instruct it to mangle the emdashes or is it doing that on its own?
It actually did so by itself. I don't remember the exact prompt, but I pretty much instructed it to reply to this comment with text that matches stereotypical LLM-generated text indicators, including sycophancy and em dashes. And exclude emojis and produce a short-ish message.
Sorry, I wasn't trying to imply that the problem actually exists here or that you are not human.
I was merely acknowledging my own blind spot in the moment, and simultaneously realizing how tricky this problem can be to address in day to day life.
Nah no worries didn't think you did.
When he didn’t get caught at first I actually started to imagine he was some kind of revolutionary mastermind, and that we might expect him to coordinate future acts of terrible violence.
But… yeah… just a man child with a weapon.
I had the same thoughts honestly, or that he could have foreign government covert ops support cause this would be a great way to stir up some unrest and further destabilize the US.
But nope, just a radicalized kid.
Channel 5 with Andrew Callaghan has been knocking it out of the park lately. Today this long-form interview with the last person to speak with Charlie Kirk dropped. This format is so much better than the sound-byte echo chamber media noise happening elsewhere. Worth a watch.
I have avoided the news for almost a year at this point, but that interview was excellent. I wish more news outlets were like this. Empathetic, methodical, genuine, and respectful. No gotchas, no smash cuts, no citing social media as a source of information. Great journalism.
I'm glad Andrew is putting out content again, and at least somewhat took responsibility for the stuff that came out a few years ago.
He really is one of the best journalists of our time. Like a much softer modern day Hunter S. Thompson.
Was there any merit to the sexual assault allegations? I know he dropped out of YouTube for a time because multiple women claimed he’d assaulted them.
I don’t know anything about that, I discovered Channel 5 fairly recently and wasn’t aware of any allegations. I hope that’s not true obviously. Channel 5 is a journalistic breath of fresh air — ugh why do so many things I enjoy get footgunned by their people being assholes off camera. I’m so tired of having the debate about separating art from the artist. Seriously, I’m not advocating for sweeping misbehavior under the rug, I just want people to… be better. It’s fatiguing rehashing this for a different person every month or two. It’s surprisingly hard to find people who do good things, who also don’t do bad things.
From what I gathered he didn't assault anyone, but was begging for sex in ways that made some women feel really awkward. Maybe they were pressured into it, not 100% sure. Either way he apologized and stepped away for a year to work on himself, which seems like a decent response. I don't think there was anything bad enough to justify a full cancellation, and being fired by Tim and Eric is a terrible punishment in itself!
There were allegations from two women of sexual assault/rape on top of the "pressured into sex"allegations.
I don't see what happened, if anything, with those. It seems like he just denied them, and they chose, for all the reasons survivors choose, not to pursue whatever criminal or civil options were still available.
Two Women Accuse Documentary Filmmaker Andrew Callaghan of Rape, Sexual Assault - The Stranger
Andrew Callaghan sexual assault allegations: A complete guide
I don't agree with the framing of "begs for sex awkwardly" as the allegations go much further and his claim of never overstepping on consent reads as disingenuous given multiple independent allegations (with the college ones having contemporary witnesses who were told about the assaults at the time.)
Yeah I assumed this wasn’t ever really resolved and he just laid low for a while to let it blow over. I’ve been watching Peter Santanello for good independent reporting instead, but he doesn’t chase today’s hottest stories. He either explores the under represented parts of the country or follows up on major events (like the Hawaii and LA fires) months after everyone else has moved on.
Interesting to be hearing it from the president, but no law enforcement agencies. But.. that's kind of par for the course, right now?
There was a press conference and they've now formally announced this as well, including the rumors about engravings on bullet casings.
Ah, yes. At the time I posted it had not yet been reported that law enforcement had announced the arrest. While I find NPR usually great at getting the facts right, that fact checking can cause some slowdown in reporting breaking news.