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Asmongold's Twitch channel temporarily banned following racist rant about Palestinians

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  1. [8]
    lou
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    Asmongold is a big streamer and YouTuber largely known for his World of Warcraft content. I started watching his videos on YouTube back in the pandemic largely because I really wanted to play WoW...

    Asmongold is a big streamer and YouTuber largely known for his World of Warcraft content. I started watching his videos on YouTube back in the pandemic largely because I really wanted to play WoW but didn't have a PC. It was fun.

    Lately, he's been making a lot of social and political commentary, and it seems to me that he got tired of pretending he is an independent thinker -- Asmongold is now a figure of the alt-right. It's pretty sad (for me).

    A lot of his content now is misogynistic, and if you peruse his subreddit the amount of posts that are just hate against women is staggering.


    Sorry for the tiny article, that is quite recent. If a mod finds a more substantial source, feel free to swap the link.

    14 votes
    1. [7]
      CptBluebear
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      Alt-right? He's a fencesitter at best about most issues and generally favourable towards equality of all types. As an example, he's been outspoken towards gay rights multiple times and how he...

      Alt-right? He's a fencesitter at best about most issues and generally favourable towards equality of all types. As an example, he's been outspoken towards gay rights multiple times and how he doesn't understand why people would be against gay marriage.

      I'm not trying to go to bat for him, but be accurate.

      2 votes
      1. [4]
        daywalker
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        Just take a look at his subreddit to see the types that follow him. Also, weirdly, even queer alt-righters exist.

        Just take a look at his subreddit to see the types that follow him. Also, weirdly, even queer alt-righters exist.

        18 votes
        1. [3]
          CptBluebear
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          That's irrelevant. It's not Jodie Foster's fault John Hinckley shot at Reagan. His content is a mix of multiple viewpoints and that attracts a crowd from any of those viewpoints.

          That's irrelevant. It's not Jodie Foster's fault John Hinckley shot at Reagan.

          His content is a mix of multiple viewpoints and that attracts a crowd from any of those viewpoints.

          4 votes
          1. highpulp
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            I don't think communities surrounding streamers are really comparable to those in other forms of entertainment. There's so much more interaction between the community & the creator that I believe...

            I don't think communities surrounding streamers are really comparable to those in other forms of entertainment. There's so much more interaction between the community & the creator that I believe communities surrounding content creators are very largely a reflection of said creator. This is also influenced by how their communities are moderated, which ultimately is driven by what the creator deems is appropriate, who they delegate moderation privileges to, etc.

            That is to say, compared to other streamers even within his network (OTK), Asmon attracts a disproportionate quantity of some of the worst people on the internet, and I don't believe that's a coincidence.

            21 votes
          2. daywalker
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            I just do not believe that.

            I just do not believe that.

            5 votes
      2. kwyjibo
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        One of the most influential standard-bearers of the alt-right movement was an openly gay man. Supporting gay rights or being a gay person doesn't prevent you from being alt-right, or even a...

        One of the most influential standard-bearers of the alt-right movement was an openly gay man. Supporting gay rights or being a gay person doesn't prevent you from being alt-right, or even a fascist, which I believe this guy to be. I don't care how pro-LGBTQ+ you are, if you're openly calling for the annihilation of an entire population and do so in front of an audience of tens of thousands, you're not for equality and certainly deserve to be called nouns a lot harsher than a fence-sitter.

        15 votes
      3. Lexinonymous
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        Out of curiosity, what would be your criteria for labeling someone "alt-right?"

        Out of curiosity, what would be your criteria for labeling someone "alt-right?"

        3 votes
  2. [3]
    aphoenix
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    From personal experience (many private conversations directly with him, albeit none in the last four or so years), I don't believe that Zack believes the terrible shit that he says. He is a...

    From personal experience (many private conversations directly with him, albeit none in the last four or so years), I don't believe that Zack believes the terrible shit that he says. He is a classic rage baiter. He knows that he gets views because of controversies, so he makes them as often as possible. He is also not as much of a personal train wreck as he seems to be on steam. It's a persona.

    Sometimes things go too far and he apologizes, and I don't believe he means those either. He also does the apology for views.

    It is a vapid existence.

    6 votes
    1. daywalker
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      It doesn't matter if it's a grifter or a true believer empowering far right rhetoric, the result is all the same. A lot of Nazis were just grifters that wanted power.

      It doesn't matter if it's a grifter or a true believer empowering far right rhetoric, the result is all the same. A lot of Nazis were just grifters that wanted power.

      19 votes
    2. stu2b50
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      In this case I wouldn’t be surprised if he genuinely believed the things he said. I don’t think either is all that uncommon amongst Americans.

      In this case I wouldn’t be surprised if he genuinely believed the things he said. I don’t think either is all that uncommon amongst Americans.

      4 votes