20 votes

Bluesky melts down over Jesse Singal

24 comments

  1. [11]
    TaylorSwiftsPickles
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    Ah, yeah, I remember that from last year. This shit basically made me delete bluesky just a couple months tops after joining in the first place.

    Ah, yeah, I remember that from last year. This shit basically made me delete bluesky just a couple months tops after joining in the first place.

    6 votes
    1. [10]
      rodrigo
      Link Parent
      It was resurfaced after this post from Bluesky CEO Jay Graber.

      It was resurfaced after this post from Bluesky CEO Jay Graber.

      10 votes
      1. [3]
        skybrian
        Link Parent
        Jay's feed is exhibit A for off-topic reply spam. People will just post Palestinian political activism in response to any popular post. Contrast to Tildes where we tag topics as politics for...

        Jay's feed is exhibit A for off-topic reply spam. People will just post Palestinian political activism in response to any popular post.

        Contrast to Tildes where we tag topics as politics for people who don't want to read it.

        8 votes
        1. [2]
          Lexinonymous
          Link Parent
          One of the things I appreciate most about Mastodon is its culture of tagging and content warnings.

          One of the things I appreciate most about Mastodon is its culture of tagging and content warnings.

          3 votes
          1. skybrian
            Link Parent
            The culture is sometimes better, but there is political spam on Mastodon too. Example.

            The culture is sometimes better, but there is political spam on Mastodon too. Example.

            1 vote
      2. [4]
        DeaconBlue
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        I don't follow the thread format. What exactly is the post "WAFFLES" a response to? Parts of the page say that you need an account to view them, so I am clearly missing some context.

        I don't follow the thread format. What exactly is the post "WAFFLES" a response to?

        Parts of the page say that you need an account to view them, so I am clearly missing some context.

        5 votes
        1. [3]
          omid
          (edited )
          Link Parent
          Jerry Chen: Jay reposts the above post and adds: lucas responds to Jay’s post: Jay responds:

          Jerry Chen:

          (bluesky user bursts into Waffle House) OH SO YOU HATE PANCAKES??

          Jay reposts the above post and adds:

          Too real. We’re going to try to fix this. Social media doesn’t have to be this way.

          lucas responds to Jay’s post:

          have y'all banned Jesse Singal yet or

          Jay responds:

          WAFFLES

          8 votes
          1. [2]
            DeaconBlue
            Link Parent
            Okay, the Jerry Chen post is the start and it is unavailable to view without an account. Now at least I follow the thread despite it seeming pretty random to me still. The name "Jesse Singal" also...

            Okay, the Jerry Chen post is the start and it is unavailable to view without an account. Now at least I follow the thread despite it seeming pretty random to me still.

            The name "Jesse Singal" also meant nothing to me until seeing this thread so I guess I am just not the intended audience.

            7 votes
            1. Eji1700
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              This just goes back to my core problem with twitter style media in that it's DESIGNED to cause confusion, non sequitors, gotchas, and everything else awful from the UI/UX down.

              This just goes back to my core problem with twitter style media in that it's DESIGNED to cause confusion, non sequitors, gotchas, and everything else awful from the UI/UX down.

              11 votes
      3. 0x29A
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        Yeah, after seeing this open mockery/deflection of people with legitimate concerns about harassers/doxxers I am inclined to leave.

        Yeah, after seeing this open mockery/deflection of people with legitimate concerns about harassers/doxxers I am inclined to leave.

        2 votes
  2. skybrian
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    Here’s some joking about what it’s like now. There are hints that they are working on better moderation. Bluesky sort of reminds me of email before spam filters became effective. It was (and is)...

    Here’s some joking about what it’s like now.

    There are hints that they are working on better moderation.

    Bluesky sort of reminds me of email before spam filters became effective. It was (and is) cool that you could send an email to anyone, but it has its downsides. Similarly, you can reply to just about anyone on Bluesky (if they haven’t blocked you) but off-topic reply spam on popular posts has gotten out of hand.

    5 votes
  3. Dr_Amazing
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    I got completely lost about halfway through when the 3rd or 4th layer of people came in to call everyone pedophiles. I'm not even sure what point he was trying to make.

    I got completely lost about halfway through when the 3rd or 4th layer of people came in to call everyone pedophiles. I'm not even sure what point he was trying to make.

    5 votes
  4. [11]
    Lobachevsky
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    Is the platform genuinely useful for anything? When I joined, my feed was about 20% random pictures of stuff and 80% incredibly extreme leftist US politics. I spent perhaps a week clicking "not...

    Is the platform genuinely useful for anything? When I joined, my feed was about 20% random pictures of stuff and 80% incredibly extreme leftist US politics. I spent perhaps a week clicking "not interested" on every single one of those posts and it didn't matter. Filters didn't help because a ton of them were pictures of text (extremely annoying practice).

    3 votes
    1. [4]
      DefinitelyNotAFae
      Link Parent
      I follow a lot of authors, podcasters, lawyers and journalists and I have some feeds that are specialized to free news articles, speculative fiction or "long reads" (substacks or other long form...

      I follow a lot of authors, podcasters, lawyers and journalists and I have some feeds that are specialized to free news articles, speculative fiction or "long reads" (substacks or other long form articles.)

      I mostly stick to the following feed since it's literally just the most recent. I haven't tried to curate the way you're doing it, rather just actively following people or orgs I want to hear from

      I don't get images replacing text often, but when I do it's people I want to see it from (also alt-text helps)

      14 votes
      1. [3]
        chocobean
        Link Parent
        I'm only very occasionally there for the Dropout crowd

        I'm only very occasionally there for the Dropout crowd

        1 vote
        1. [2]
          DefinitelyNotAFae
          Link Parent
          You know I don't see as much dropout stuff on Blue sky. I am now curious about whether I ended up following them in a feed instead of directly. But I mostly follow those folks on Tiktok and...

          You know I don't see as much dropout stuff on Blue sky. I am now curious about whether I ended up following them in a feed instead of directly. But I mostly follow those folks on Tiktok and technically on Instagram, but I don't use it.

          Following creators you like is the whole point!

          3 votes
          1. chocobean
            Link Parent
            I haven't been back in a while so I'm not sure. It's also entirely possible they're hunkering down just quietly making good content instead of being loud on social media right now.... something...

            I haven't been back in a while so I'm not sure. It's also entirely possible they're hunkering down just quietly making good content instead of being loud on social media right now.... something something do not disturb the waters / look into the Palantir etc

            3 votes
    2. WrathOfTheHydra
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      You need to search for some favorite people/artists/news-outlets and follow those. Having a good follow list is sort of necassary for that kind of site to work. Bluesky also probably isn't your...

      You need to search for some favorite people/artists/news-outlets and follow those. Having a good follow list is sort of necassary for that kind of site to work.

      Bluesky also probably isn't your platform if you're not into the leftist side of things. It is naturally going to lean away from anything X is doing, so leftists like me are going to gravitate to it for the ambient background noise that it brings.

      13 votes
    3. skybrian
      Link Parent
      Yes, it's quite a wasteland until you start curating it. You can subscribe to any feeds you want - the trouble is finding good ones. I deleted the defaults other than the "following" feed. Another...

      Yes, it's quite a wasteland until you start curating it. You can subscribe to any feeds you want - the trouble is finding good ones. I deleted the defaults other than the "following" feed.

      Another I've found that's useful is "quiet posters", which has posts and replies from people you follow who don't post that often.

      But that assumes you've found interesting people to follow, and for me that's grown very slowly over time.

      I don't see "not interested" in the web UI for Bluesky. I thought that was a Facebook thing?

      5 votes
    4. [2]
      Lexinonymous
      Link Parent
      BlueSky reminds me of Obama-era Twitter. I didn't much care for Obama-era Twitter, despite being orders of magnitude better than the current Musk-era Twitter.

      BlueSky reminds me of Obama-era Twitter. I didn't much care for Obama-era Twitter, despite being orders of magnitude better than the current Musk-era Twitter.

      4 votes
      1. DefinitelyNotAFae
        Link Parent
        What's nice for me is I can read the news if I want or hear about one of my favorite author's D&D sessions. (She has a great storytelling style, naturally.) Or I can read a detailed analysis of a...

        What's nice for me is I can read the news if I want or hear about one of my favorite author's D&D sessions. (She has a great storytelling style, naturally.) Or I can read a detailed analysis of a SCOTUS ruling by a lawyer, and read the conversation between them. I get a lot of great short stories and SFF book recs too.

        Idk I like it because of how un-twitterlike it is, because I can curate my shit and engage with what I want, and block assholes when they show up.

        3 votes
    5. [2]
      entitled-entilde
      Link Parent
      As large of an audience as possible to express how outraged you are about something. This is why the linked story is more of a feature of BlueSky than a bug. As with twitter, the fun thing about...

      As large of an audience as possible to express how outraged you are about something. This is why the linked story is more of a feature of BlueSky than a bug. As with twitter, the fun thing about the platform has always been tapping into the collective action of a huge number of people. Contrary to other posters, I think curating is actual missing the real essence. In the Wild West, suddenly you get to ride a huge wave. But the reality is that outage and witch hunts are the main generators of interest (or at least the algorithm has decided that prioritize it), so that’s what we are left with.

      1 vote
      1. DefinitelyNotAFae
        Link Parent
        The nice thing is you can dip your toe in with the Discover and Popular with Friends feeds too or set a separate feed for the wild west. For me it works better to have my default curated, but...

        The nice thing is you can dip your toe in with the Discover and Popular with Friends feeds too or set a separate feed for the wild west. For me it works better to have my default curated, but using feeds to curate works too. I enjoy my experience and don't feel the need to argue with racists or transphobes and mostly that's nice

        1 vote