HK-47 would like a word. I kid, Chopper is definitely in my top two droids. Rebels is definitely peak Disney Star Wars in my opinion. The series is right up there with the last season of Clone Wars.
HK-47 would like a word.
I kid, Chopper is definitely in my top two droids. Rebels is definitely peak Disney Star Wars in my opinion. The series is right up there with the last season of Clone Wars.
I'm sure people are tired about seeing this said for every new Disney movie and show, but some of these shots look like they completely forgot to color grade them. I am beyond ready for this low...
I'm sure people are tired about seeing this said for every new Disney movie and show, but some of these shots look like they completely forgot to color grade them. I am beyond ready for this low saturation zero contrast visual palette trend to die.
I just can't agree. There's clear strategic use in the designs, but in any scene that isn't extremely brightly lit in indoor environments the skin tones all look washed out and the gamma levels...
I just can't agree. There's clear strategic use in the designs, but in any scene that isn't extremely brightly lit in indoor environments the skin tones all look washed out and the gamma levels look like raw footage, pretty much like any Marvel movie.
I’m going to watch it but I have so many misgivings with it, especially after Mando S3. Andor did something, it raised the bar and I’m doubtful anything is going to meet or exceed it anytime soon...
I’m going to watch it but I have so many misgivings with it, especially after Mando S3.
Andor did something, it raised the bar and I’m doubtful anything is going to meet or exceed it anytime soon (even wary of S2).
Andor was a very different type of Star Wars. It's a gritty, emotional, intense drama where Mando is a classic fun, campy, action adventure. I like both for very different reasons and I don't...
Andor was a very different type of Star Wars. It's a gritty, emotional, intense drama where Mando is a classic fun, campy, action adventure. I like both for very different reasons and I don't think all of the shows need to hit the same tone to be good in their own right.
Well I loved S1 of The Mandalorian. I think making it interconnect and getting filled with cameos was a mistake. Tone is not my issue with that show. The quality slipped...I mean what a goofy...
Well I loved S1 of The Mandalorian. I think making it interconnect and getting filled with cameos was a mistake. Tone is not my issue with that show. The quality slipped...I mean what a goofy pointless villain Gideon ended up being. If a villain is going to be goofy in a way to fits for the tone of the show, give me that swamp monster pirate. I love that muppety fool.
I'm not convinced the show ever needed an overall arc villain anyway. The singular adventures of Mando and Grogu surviving in a post-ROTJ world is all we needed but for some reason everyone is craving super serialized television these days that has to hook into larger multimedia stories.
Yes, that's exactly it. I think you really do have to look at Andor to see the craft required to make a really good hook-in to the larger story where we have both new and old characters that get...
Yes, that's exactly it.
I think you really do have to look at Andor to see the craft required to make a really good hook-in to the larger story where we have both new and old characters that get stories that really matter on a small level and yet have larger implications for the grander stuff as well. The Mandalorian S3 tries to do that exact same thing and just fails at it because it's poorly written, not that it needs the same tone as Andor but I can see how its hard to separate the two concepts.
But honestly that show is just so well done, like I said it's a high bar to meet.
I haven't been too impressed with anything Star Wars in a while except the Mandalorian. If Ahsoka is half as good as that it'll be fun. That aside, I'm not necessarily a fan of the neverending...
I haven't been too impressed with anything Star Wars in a while except the Mandalorian. If Ahsoka is half as good as that it'll be fun.
That aside, I'm not necessarily a fan of the neverending lore expansion cycle that the superhero movie trend started. It's spinoff after spinoff after spinoff and none of it actually gets a conclusion and the recent Star Wars stuff feels similar. Just something to get you to watch continuously hoping at some point there's a pay off. The Mandalorian broke (or at the least strayed from) that trend by being somewhat on the periphery of the overarching lore.
Ahsoka looks like it's firmly inside the "this will not get a conclusion but sells more of the main movies" type of thing. Let's hope I'm wrong.
Andor is really good too, I thought. I was never really into comics, but isn’t this how they work, too? Lots of reboots, teamups, alternate stories, replots, repackages…
Andor is really good too, I thought.
I was never really into comics, but isn’t this how they work, too? Lots of reboots, teamups, alternate stories, replots, repackages…
I loved Andor, but I hope they keep the grit there. It's what set it apart, and if we're gonna have this broad universe of stories I want them all to have their own tone. Let the Mando-related...
I loved Andor, but I hope they keep the grit there. It's what set it apart, and if we're gonna have this broad universe of stories I want them all to have their own tone.
Let the Mando-related stuff stay fun and campy, and let Andor be gritty.
And let's have less of the aimless tone of Obi-Wan that couldn't decide if it was cute, depressing, or epic.
This is basically how I feel. The Mandalorian was awesome because it was a standalone story set in the Star Wars universe that was able to do its own thing. Then the second season happened, and...
This is basically how I feel. The Mandalorian was awesome because it was a standalone story set in the Star Wars universe that was able to do its own thing. Then the second season happened, and they introduce
Luke, Ashoka, Boba Fett,and I'm firmly reminded that this is just another method to create an "expanded universe" where Disney can just endlessly churn out content.
Fortunately those cameos are just that, cameos. They end up being irrelevant to the story unfolding in the Mandalorian. That stuff is almost non existent in the third season. But yes, it's the...
Fortunately those cameos are just that, cameos. They end up being irrelevant to the story unfolding in the Mandalorian. That stuff is almost non existent in the third season.
But yes, it's the churn all over again.
It's frustrating because an expanded universe (in whatever universe you like) is awesome, but you can tell with Marvel and Disney that the intent is to dangle a carrot until it just unceremoniously gets cancelled when viewership drops. Not a fan of that approach.
I'm sorry, but this just isn't true, is it? Not only do those cameos take over most of the individual episodes they're in, but getting Grogu together with one of those cameos is the primary...
They end up being irrelevant to the story
I'm sorry, but this just isn't true, is it? Not only do those cameos take over most of the individual episodes they're in, but getting Grogu together with one of those cameos is the primary overarching conflict of the second season, and one of those cameos is a deus ex machina that resolves the entire plot in the final episode of the second season.
That stuff is almost non existent in the third season.
And I don't think this is either, right? Some of those cartoon cameos are promoted to main cast in the third season.
I'm genuinely not trying to start a fight here, but I along with many other people disliked the third season so much because it seemed to have ramped up the "just gotta squeeze this in for the Wookieepedia page" stuff from the second season.
Don't worry, I don't take it that way. I could simply be wrong and by all accounts it seems that I am. Selective memory (or just a while ago since I last saw it!) I suppose. I don't feel like the...
I'm genuinely not trying to start a fight here
Don't worry, I don't take it that way. I could simply be wrong and by all accounts it seems that I am.
Selective memory (or just a while ago since I last saw it!) I suppose.
I don't feel like the cameos had a large impact on the overall Mando story even if an episode was dedicated to them but that may also just be my interpretation. Having cameos and having them be impactful to the story of the Mandalorian isn't a bad thing per se, it's when these outside factors influence the story by being a tie in to their own series (or some other overarching story beat) that you need to follow somewhere else that it starts to annoy me.
Even Mandalorian had a pretty bad third season I thought. Andor has gotten my hopes up about the quality of Star Wars content, but I'm definitely continuing to be skeptical... Ahsoka looks alright...
I haven't been too impressed with anything Star Wars in a while except the Mandalorian.
Even Mandalorian had a pretty bad third season I thought.
Andor has gotten my hopes up about the quality of Star Wars content, but I'm definitely continuing to be skeptical... Ahsoka looks alright from this trailer, but it also seems like it may suffer from the same problems as most of Disney's other TV shows
Thank you. The third season of Mando was garbage -- made worse, IMO, because Andor was so good. I'm cautiously optimistic about Aksoka, but my expectations for Disney's Star Wars content are so...
Thank you. The third season of Mando was garbage -- made worse, IMO, because Andor was so good. I'm cautiously optimistic about Aksoka, but my expectations for Disney's Star Wars content are so low at this point there's nowhere to go but up really.
The third season was divisive at best. I ended up having a good time with it but I understand why it may have been a bit off-putting. It did seem to start tying the universes together with Thrawn...
The third season was divisive at best. I ended up having a good time with it but I understand why it may have been a bit off-putting.
It did seem to start tying the universes together with Thrawn being mentioned. A mistake if you ask me, when it really does best when Mando is just being a bounty hunter in space.
Never read any books about Thrawn or seen Rebels, and only seen a bit of Clone Wars. Watching these Star Wars shows is half watching them and half reading forums to find out what I was supposed to...
Never read any books about Thrawn or seen Rebels, and only seen a bit of Clone Wars. Watching these Star Wars shows is half watching them and half reading forums to find out what I was supposed to recognize in the episode. I really miss Mando season 1 when it was more self contained, and the larger Star Wars lore outside the movies was more flavor when it was there at all. I could go back and watch the entirety of Rebels and Clone Wars for these shows, but it feels like a very daunting amount of homework.
I think Star Wars is starting to suffer from the the Marvel problem where there's lots of trivia which somehow become important to the movies. I think Disney (and, to be fair, Lucasfilm already...
I think Star Wars is starting to suffer from the the Marvel problem where there's lots of trivia which somehow become important to the movies. I think Disney (and, to be fair, Lucasfilm already kind of had) has really lost the goofiness (for lack of a better word) of the originals, which didn't take themselves and have endearing production mistakes (e.g. parsecs, Han shot first, etc).
Them's fighting words. :P Han shooting first has narrative reasons. "Shows" that Mos Eisley is a 'hive of scum and villainy'. Paints Han as a grittier smuggler that's willing to do bad things,...
production mistakes
Han shot first
Them's fighting words. :P
Han shooting first has narrative reasons. "Shows" that Mos Eisley is a 'hive of scum and villainy'. Paints Han as a grittier smuggler that's willing to do bad things, making him less trustworthy / more likely to take the money and run for the rest of the movie.
Looks like I should actually watch Rebels. I'm not sure if it will be necessary, but I can tell that theres a bunch of characters and lore that are going to come into play from even the few...
Looks like I should actually watch Rebels. I'm not sure if it will be necessary, but I can tell that theres a bunch of characters and lore that are going to come into play from even the few episodes of Rebels I saw before I dropped it.
Even if it's not necessary, I would argue that Rebels was an excellent TV show all on its own and well worth watching if you enjoy Star Wars. The only thing is, it takes time to get there. You...
Even if it's not necessary, I would argue that Rebels was an excellent TV show all on its own and well worth watching if you enjoy Star Wars.
The only thing is, it takes time to get there. You sort of have to slog your way through a season and a bit to get to the good stuff, but once it's good, it's amazing.
Oh man, yes. I remember my friends trying to get me to watch it when it first came out and getting through the earlier stuff was a chore, but it really picks up.
Oh man, yes. I remember my friends trying to get me to watch it when it first came out and getting through the earlier stuff was a chore, but it really picks up.
From the looks of it this is going to be a direct sequel to rebels, so I think watching that would be a good idea. I actually just finished my first run through the clone wars and rebels to...
From the looks of it this is going to be a direct sequel to rebels, so I think watching that would be a good idea. I actually just finished my first run through the clone wars and rebels to prepare for this show, and I’d recommend just watching Rebels fully, it’s a good show all things considered. Never had the highs of the later series of TCW but it’s more consistently good I would say.
I will be watching this, and I will hopefully enjoy it, but I have to say I’m starting to get tired of good person with lightsaber vs bad person with light saber. Say what you will about Mando...
I will be watching this, and I will hopefully enjoy it, but I have to say I’m starting to get tired of good person with lightsaber vs bad person with light saber. Say what you will about Mando season 3, but it at least stands out from the crowd. When you have shows that have similar overlapping themes, you get Book of Boba. Even Visions which has the chance to tell more unique stories is mostly light saber vs light saber. There are many stories that can be told, and Andor proves this.
I wonder how much of Timothy Zahn’s Heir to the Empire is in this. Maybe they just swap out the OT characters for Rebels characters and adjust C’Boath to make sense within the modern canon? That...
I wonder how much of Timothy Zahn’s Heir to the Empire is in this. Maybe they just swap out the OT characters for Rebels characters and adjust C’Boath to make sense within the modern canon? That dark Jedi is giving big Joruus vibes
I have not watched Clone Wars or Rebels, and at this stage I don't really feel like watching 11 seasons of cartoons to have done my homework. However, Ahsoka looks like a pretty fun romp, filled...
I have not watched Clone Wars or Rebels, and at this stage I don't really feel like watching 11 seasons of cartoons to have done my homework. However, Ahsoka looks like a pretty fun romp, filled with space wizards, so I'm keen to check it out.
Can anyone recommend a resource that I can read to get more or less caught up on what the situation is going to be here? I assume they'll treat the show like you've not seen anything else, but I'd still like to be aware of the general background.
I really hope they don’t mess this up. I endured all of Clone Wars and Rebels to get the background. If it’s at all in similar in quality to the Mandalorian, I’ll be pleased.
I really hope they don’t mess this up. I endured all of Clone Wars and Rebels to get the background. If it’s at all in similar in quality to the Mandalorian, I’ll be pleased.
Rebels was actually pretty decent all the way through. Clone wars was a tough watch for the first 5 seasons but 6 and especially 7 made it all worth it. I’ve enjoyed live action Star Wars in...
Rebels was actually pretty decent all the way through. Clone wars was a tough watch for the first 5 seasons but 6 and especially 7 made it all worth it. I’ve enjoyed live action Star Wars in general so I’m hopeful.
Chopper is the best droid in SW easily. Good to see another Rebels fan out here, it’s my favorite SW content, personally.
HK-47 would like a word.
I kid, Chopper is definitely in my top two droids. Rebels is definitely peak Disney Star Wars in my opinion. The series is right up there with the last season of Clone Wars.
Yeah my kids didn't believe me at how great Rebels was. Now it's one if their favorites.
I'm sure people are tired about seeing this said for every new Disney movie and show, but some of these shots look like they completely forgot to color grade them. I am beyond ready for this low saturation zero contrast visual palette trend to die.
Feels like the late 2000s in video games all over again.
I just can't agree. There's clear strategic use in the designs, but in any scene that isn't extremely brightly lit in indoor environments the skin tones all look washed out and the gamma levels look like raw footage, pretty much like any Marvel movie.
I’m going to watch it but I have so many misgivings with it, especially after Mando S3.
Andor did something, it raised the bar and I’m doubtful anything is going to meet or exceed it anytime soon (even wary of S2).
Andor was a very different type of Star Wars. It's a gritty, emotional, intense drama where Mando is a classic fun, campy, action adventure. I like both for very different reasons and I don't think all of the shows need to hit the same tone to be good in their own right.
Well I loved S1 of The Mandalorian. I think making it interconnect and getting filled with cameos was a mistake. Tone is not my issue with that show. The quality slipped...I mean what a goofy pointless villain Gideon ended up being. If a villain is going to be goofy in a way to fits for the tone of the show, give me that swamp monster pirate. I love that muppety fool.
I'm not convinced the show ever needed an overall arc villain anyway. The singular adventures of Mando and Grogu surviving in a post-ROTJ world is all we needed but for some reason everyone is craving super serialized television these days that has to hook into larger multimedia stories.
But that's just me and what I wanted out of it.
Fair enough, I can definitely understand wanting a more disconnected story to make the universe feel a bit more expansive.
Yes, that's exactly it.
I think you really do have to look at Andor to see the craft required to make a really good hook-in to the larger story where we have both new and old characters that get stories that really matter on a small level and yet have larger implications for the grander stuff as well. The Mandalorian S3 tries to do that exact same thing and just fails at it because it's poorly written, not that it needs the same tone as Andor but I can see how its hard to separate the two concepts.
But honestly that show is just so well done, like I said it's a high bar to meet.
I haven't been too impressed with anything Star Wars in a while except the Mandalorian. If Ahsoka is half as good as that it'll be fun.
That aside, I'm not necessarily a fan of the neverending lore expansion cycle that the superhero movie trend started. It's spinoff after spinoff after spinoff and none of it actually gets a conclusion and the recent Star Wars stuff feels similar. Just something to get you to watch continuously hoping at some point there's a pay off. The Mandalorian broke (or at the least strayed from) that trend by being somewhat on the periphery of the overarching lore.
Ahsoka looks like it's firmly inside the "this will not get a conclusion but sells more of the main movies" type of thing. Let's hope I'm wrong.
Andor is really good too, I thought.
I was never really into comics, but isn’t this how they work, too? Lots of reboots, teamups, alternate stories, replots, repackages…
I really hope they keep the gritty feel from andor.
I loved Andor, but I hope they keep the grit there. It's what set it apart, and if we're gonna have this broad universe of stories I want them all to have their own tone.
Let the Mando-related stuff stay fun and campy, and let Andor be gritty.
And let's have less of the aimless tone of Obi-Wan that couldn't decide if it was cute, depressing, or epic.
This is basically how I feel. The Mandalorian was awesome because it was a standalone story set in the Star Wars universe that was able to do its own thing. Then the second season happened, and they introduce
Something something Glup Shitto.
Fortunately those cameos are just that, cameos. They end up being irrelevant to the story unfolding in the Mandalorian. That stuff is almost non existent in the third season.
But yes, it's the churn all over again.
It's frustrating because an expanded universe (in whatever universe you like) is awesome, but you can tell with Marvel and Disney that the intent is to dangle a carrot until it just unceremoniously gets cancelled when viewership drops. Not a fan of that approach.
I'm sorry, but this just isn't true, is it? Not only do those cameos take over most of the individual episodes they're in, but getting Grogu together with one of those cameos is the primary overarching conflict of the second season, and one of those cameos is a deus ex machina that resolves the entire plot in the final episode of the second season.
And I don't think this is either, right? Some of those cartoon cameos are promoted to main cast in the third season.
I'm genuinely not trying to start a fight here, but I along with many other people disliked the third season so much because it seemed to have ramped up the "just gotta squeeze this in for the Wookieepedia page" stuff from the second season.
Don't worry, I don't take it that way. I could simply be wrong and by all accounts it seems that I am.
Selective memory (or just a while ago since I last saw it!) I suppose.
I don't feel like the cameos had a large impact on the overall Mando story even if an episode was dedicated to them but that may also just be my interpretation. Having cameos and having them be impactful to the story of the Mandalorian isn't a bad thing per se, it's when these outside factors influence the story by being a tie in to their own series (or some other overarching story beat) that you need to follow somewhere else that it starts to annoy me.
I still think the ending of season two was the perfect cameo, and I was looking a different story from S3, they ruined it.
Even Mandalorian had a pretty bad third season I thought.
Andor has gotten my hopes up about the quality of Star Wars content, but I'm definitely continuing to be skeptical... Ahsoka looks alright from this trailer, but it also seems like it may suffer from the same problems as most of Disney's other TV shows
Thank you. The third season of Mando was garbage -- made worse, IMO, because Andor was so good. I'm cautiously optimistic about Aksoka, but my expectations for Disney's Star Wars content are so low at this point there's nowhere to go but up really.
The third season was divisive at best. I ended up having a good time with it but I understand why it may have been a bit off-putting.
It did seem to start tying the universes together with Thrawn being mentioned. A mistake if you ask me, when it really does best when Mando is just being a bounty hunter in space.
They have already announced that the Mandalorian, Ahsoka, and a few other shows are going to culminate in a Dave Filoni directed movie.
Never read any books about Thrawn or seen Rebels, and only seen a bit of Clone Wars. Watching these Star Wars shows is half watching them and half reading forums to find out what I was supposed to recognize in the episode. I really miss Mando season 1 when it was more self contained, and the larger Star Wars lore outside the movies was more flavor when it was there at all. I could go back and watch the entirety of Rebels and Clone Wars for these shows, but it feels like a very daunting amount of homework.
I think Star Wars is starting to suffer from the the Marvel problem where there's lots of trivia which somehow become important to the movies. I think Disney (and, to be fair, Lucasfilm already kind of had) has really lost the goofiness (for lack of a better word) of the originals, which didn't take themselves and have endearing production mistakes (e.g. parsecs, Han shot first, etc).
Them's fighting words. :P
Han shooting first has narrative reasons. "Shows" that Mos Eisley is a 'hive of scum and villainy'. Paints Han as a grittier smuggler that's willing to do bad things, making him less trustworthy / more likely to take the money and run for the rest of the movie.
Ok maybe not a production mistake, but more George Lucas' endless rerecordings where he edits who actually shot first.
Looks like I should actually watch Rebels. I'm not sure if it will be necessary, but I can tell that theres a bunch of characters and lore that are going to come into play from even the few episodes of Rebels I saw before I dropped it.
Even if it's not necessary, I would argue that Rebels was an excellent TV show all on its own and well worth watching if you enjoy Star Wars.
The only thing is, it takes time to get there. You sort of have to slog your way through a season and a bit to get to the good stuff, but once it's good, it's amazing.
At least that was my opinion of it.
Oh man, yes. I remember my friends trying to get me to watch it when it first came out and getting through the earlier stuff was a chore, but it really picks up.
From the looks of it this is going to be a direct sequel to rebels, so I think watching that would be a good idea. I actually just finished my first run through the clone wars and rebels to prepare for this show, and I’d recommend just watching Rebels fully, it’s a good show all things considered. Never had the highs of the later series of TCW but it’s more consistently good I would say.
I will be watching this, and I will hopefully enjoy it, but I have to say I’m starting to get tired of good person with lightsaber vs bad person with light saber. Say what you will about Mando season 3, but it at least stands out from the crowd. When you have shows that have similar overlapping themes, you get Book of Boba. Even Visions which has the chance to tell more unique stories is mostly light saber vs light saber. There are many stories that can be told, and Andor proves this.
I wonder how much of Timothy Zahn’s Heir to the Empire is in this. Maybe they just swap out the OT characters for Rebels characters and adjust C’Boath to make sense within the modern canon? That dark Jedi is giving big Joruus vibes
Ahsoka looks so damn good!
I'd like it to be good, even though I never watched rebels. Mostly because I loved Thrawn. I don't have super high hopes they can pull it off though.
I'm not sure they should let Dave Filoni loose on live-action.
I have not watched Clone Wars or Rebels, and at this stage I don't really feel like watching 11 seasons of cartoons to have done my homework. However, Ahsoka looks like a pretty fun romp, filled with space wizards, so I'm keen to check it out.
Can anyone recommend a resource that I can read to get more or less caught up on what the situation is going to be here? I assume they'll treat the show like you've not seen anything else, but I'd still like to be aware of the general background.
I really hope they don’t mess this up. I endured all of Clone Wars and Rebels to get the background. If it’s at all in similar in quality to the Mandalorian, I’ll be pleased.
Aren't clone wars and rebels generally considered to be good? I somewhat doubt you'll enjoy it too much if you were "enduring" them.
Rebels was actually pretty decent all the way through. Clone wars was a tough watch for the first 5 seasons but 6 and especially 7 made it all worth it. I’ve enjoyed live action Star Wars in general so I’m hopeful.