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‘Succession’ wins Outstanding Drama Series, 'The Bear' wins Outstanding Comedy Series, 'Beef' wins Outstanding Limited Series at the Emmy's
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- Primetime Emmys Winners List - Updating Live
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- Erik Pedersen
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- Jan 15 2024
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That's sad.
I can kinda sorta understand it losing the big categories to the final season of Succession, but to not win a single award out of 53 nominations? Just look at this brilliant compilation and tell me it didn't deserve, say, best cinematography. And that's one of the categories it never even got a nomination in.
And then you check out The Wire which also got 0 wins and only had 2 nominations. It is considered by many to be the best show of all time - or at least always placing very high in every top 10 lists etc.
Awards ≠ quality.
It gets worse when you look at previous winners in the Comedy categories. Larry David has like one Emmy between all of Seinfeld and Curb. Steve Carrell never got one for his portrayal of Michael Scott but Jim Parsons and Jon Cryer have three or four between them.
It should go down in infamy that Steve Carrell never won an Emmy for playing Michael Scott, which for my money is one of the greatest comedic performances of all time. The only person he lost to that I can acknowledge as deserving it over him is Alec Baldwin as Jack Donaghy.
Justice for Rhea
Never seen Succession nor Beef, but I absolutely adore The Bear and highly recommend it. Part of my love is definitely hometown pride though, it's not extremely often you see a show set in Chicago that feels like it's set in Chicago, albeit its a bit over the top sometimes. First season is good, but absolutely kicks it into high gear in the last 3ish episodes. I could not look away. It's not for the faint of heart though — I found myself getting very stressed watching it! Still haven't finished season 2 because life got in the way but I hope to.
I would recommend you to check out the American version of Shameless. It has its ups and downs and you most definitely don't need to watch all 8 seasons of it, but I found it to be quite entertaining. Jeremy Allen plays pretty much the exact same role in it, of a bright kid from Chicago that has life in the way of success
First few seasons are really good but I find it to get progressively more exhausting to watch. Watching intelligent people continually make horrible choices over and over just stresses me out. And like I get that poverty is a vicious cycle, but every single character pisses away a chance to escape their situation over the run of the show.
I have a real love/hate relationship with it. They tackle a lot of difficult things in a realistic manner, which I love, and I love the characters. But it's just exhausting after a while.
I love The Bear. It absolutely checks every box that I got from Better Call Saul. You can tell there is love and care put into every scene and montage they do.
Oh yeah, the montage and “atmosphere setting” scenes are great. There’s one montage in the first season, potentially the second to last episode if I recall correctly, where a Wilco song is playing and they’re showing shots of the city and its history. Gets me going.
How much decent Chicago accent do I get to hear if I watch it? I have a niche interest in the group of dialects that includes the classic Chicago accent and it'll up my chances of watching if I know I'll be able to nerd out about their vowels.
Honestly not a ton in the way of a traditional Chicago accent — which speaking from experience, you don’t hear all that much anymore, anyhow. I think one character in the show has a mild one.
God what a boring slog Succession was. I can't, for the life of me, understand what people see in that show when all I see is spoiled rich kids being angry with each other while getting under my skin. Nothing redeemable about any of them.
Funnily enough, Beef and The Bear also feature some horrid people. But they're dealing with normal problems like normal (albeit too angry) people. Great shows!
When you've had to interact with these types of people, the portraits in Succession are so good.
It's a parody of the US political system, US rich people, the nonsense that is c-suite "culture" and language, the insecurities, how everyone becomes so extremely self-centered.
It's just incredibly, incredibly well written, acted and executed.
If that society is foreign to you, or uninteresting to you, I can totally see how the whole show is just a waste of time, a slog and just about something you don't care for.
Just like others won't find anything redeeming in legal/detective shows or hospital dramas.
That's exactly the reason. I loathe the corpo culture and especially the entitlement of the upper strata like these kids. Nothing about that is appealing to me and I just feel like none of these kids deserve anything, let alone inherit a large multinational.
On occasion I can appreciate the effort of a certain piece of media, even if I personally don't like it, but on Succession I haven't been able to see anything redeeming in the first half of the first season. Even if it gets better later on I'd rather watch a show that appreciates kindness.
A few days ago someone on reddit said that Succession is Arrested Development as a soap opera... its difficult to disagree. I really liked it, but I definitely see why people wouldn't be into it.
I think Succession is a lot about generational trauma and how each of the main characters deal with it. The show is definitely a lot of spoiled rich kids being shitty to eachother, but you get glimpses into how they were raised and how they became who they are in the present time of the show. It can be viewed as a little character study and can be really funny at times if you let yourself get immersed in the excessivness of their lives. It took me about 3 rewatches of the first couple episodes before it clicked, but I'm also a masocist when it comes to entertainment, so who knows it might just not be for you.
I did the same. I tried the first couple of episodes multiple times. I really did try. People were singing praise about the show left and right and I just couldn't see why.
It's not just me, none of my peers have had anything positive to say whatsoever. Because what happens on Succession seems so specific to the US that it just doesn't resonate with any of us. Doesn't help that I really don't want to watch any of the characters, they're frustrating me and the last thing I want during my relaxation is to be frustrated.
I can definitely see a person's background really heavily influencing how much they can enjoy Succession, so it is possible that a lot of the best bits don't hit the same based on that. I've only watched part of the first season myself (saw it at my parents' house but never acquired an easy way to watch it myself) but I definitely saw enough stuff to keep me engrossed, but I have that US American background and I tend to enjoy the kind of tense familial drama that the show does well.
Funny how you call it a boring slog, I found it thrilling all the way through.
I found it entertaining up until the last season, and then they pulled off a plot hook that I think most shows would've absolutely face planted. Before that season I felt it was a good show, and after it became a must watch.
Yea, I think it absolutely deserves the awards and accolades
I stopped watching Succession after season 1 and I concluded I don’t really feel any positive emotion when watching it. No thrill, no excitement, no joy.
Just people being angry assholes and the writing getting in the way of the actual story.
And annoying cinematography!
I've seen people say the exact same thing about It's Always Sunny in Philidelphia, a very different show but with basically the same approach. It really is about spoiled, angry, irredeemable people being very shitty to each other and everyone else and they're so far away from normal that they're basically unrelatable (except for maybe Cousin Greg). That doesn't appeal to everyone at all.
Did you go 5 seasons with that attitude? Because that's a feat. in itself.
I don't think I'm ever going to watch anything as brilliant as Succession. There was no second wasted with this show.
I just don't understand the appeal of Succession, I watched 3 episodes and had no idea what was happening because I was so bored with all the awful people on it I couldn't even pay attention. Oh well good for them I suppose.
If your idea of a good time is a late night at the Malamute Saloon, Succession would show the opposite of that. Service is a writer I love by the way.
I love the sly little dig but sadly I actually picked the name based off of Red Dwarf, I was never even aware of the poem until someone on Tildes brought it up.
The Bear is a comedy?