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30 votes
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Debanking (and debunking?)
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Is Wise bank safe?
With the recent news about Synapse, I am a little on edge with the safety of my money. I am currently living in France for school, and am hoping to immigrate here permanently. All of my savings is...
With the recent news about Synapse, I am a little on edge with the safety of my money. I am currently living in France for school, and am hoping to immigrate here permanently. All of my savings is in USD, so I need a way to easily and cheaply convert between USD and EUR, and be able to spend EUR locally. After a ton of research, I decided to move almost all of my banking to Wise. They don't offer traditional banking features like in-person branches or checks, but I didn't use those anyway. I can get a local bank number in any of the many countries they support. The savings account APY is insanely high (higher than I have seen from even the best high yield savings accounts. I have a debit card that allows me to spend directly from any one of my bank account currencies, and auto convert to other supported currencies. And the USD account is insured by FDIC passthrough insurance.
In the thread about the Synapse collapse, people were saying that passthrough FDIC insurance doesn't always mean that the customer's money is actually insured. And apparently some fintech services will just lie about what is covered by FDIC insurance. I am not a lawyer, and I have no idea how to validate Wise's claims about passthrough FDIC insurance.
I was recently able to open a France bank account, which was surprisingly difficult. (To open a bank account you need proof of address, like a cell phone or electricity bill. I don't pay for utilities in my school apartment, and to get a cell phone plan I need a bank account. That was fun to try and navigate.) I have these bank accounts currently: my Wise account with US USD, Belgium EUR, and UK GBP, a US Credit Union account, and a French EUR bank account. My US credit union and French banks give a very low or zero APY, so keeping my money in my Wise accounts is preferable for that reason. But I also can't afford to loose all my savings if Wise collapses. My question is this: Is Wise safe enough for general money storage, or should I use it just for converting between currencies and keeping a small amount for spending? If Wise isn't safe, what about another similar product? I have heard of Revolut, but I didn't do much research since Wise seemed better for my use case.
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Does anyone else budget like this?
For many years, I’ve been relying on a budgeting system I came up with that leverages the unlimited free savings accounts offered by my credit union, and the scheduled transfer functionality in...
For many years, I’ve been relying on a budgeting system I came up with that leverages the unlimited free savings accounts offered by my credit union, and the scheduled transfer functionality in their online banking. I have a separate account for every recurring bill. I also have accounts for different types of expenses like groceries, car maintenance, clothing, travel, etc. Altogether I have about 50-60 accounts.
I am salaried so I get a predictable paycheck at predictable intervals. After every paycheck arrives, a flurry of scheduled transfers distribute the money among all the accounts. These accounts are my budget — if I go to the movie theater, for example, I’m not allowed to spend more than what’s in my Activites account. I rely heavily on my online banking app and often pull up the balances to see how much I have to work with. Most of my paycheck is allocated but there’s always a little bit left over in my checking account, which is used for discretionary spending and provides a little cushion if I need it.
Most of my bills are on auto-pay. I have scheduled transfers in place to move the money back into checking when it’s due, just in time for the payment to process.
This system works for me. I like how earmarking and separating out funds for specific purposes as soon as I get paid prevents me from spending that money on other things. I have some annual subscription renewals that I don’t even feel because I set aside a couple bucks every pay period and the money’s there when I need it. I like that this system doesn’t require complex paid software or tedious reconciliation processes. It’s admittedly a chore to make adjustments to anything because the online banking system wasn’t designed for this sort of workflow. Once it’s properly configured, everything is automated and it basically runs itself. I’ve added a couple supporting tools over the years: a spreadsheet to plan the whole budget before I create all the scheduled transfers, and a CLI script that projects upcoming balances for n years so I can optimize my biweekly allocation sizes for their corresponding monthly or annual payments.
I don’t know what to call this system. It’s similar to the old envelope method except I’m using actual bank accounts and never handling cash. I’ve heard that YNAB is similar but haven’t looked into that one. I can’t be the only one managing their money this way! Does this have a name? I’d love to hear resource recommendations for this sort of budget, and please share your own systems and tools as well!
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Russian banks say yuan coffers empty, urge central bank action, while Chinese banks in Russia are avoiding currency trading for fear of secondary Western sanctions
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US Consumer Financial Protection Bureau takes action against Fifth Third Bank for wrongfully triggering auto repossessions and opening fake bank accounts
20 votes -
Synapse collapse reveals lack of FDIC protection for US fintech depositors
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Sweden faces increasing numbers of banking scams
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Undemocratic, anachronistic, fantastic. How the City of London survives.
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All Santander staff and 'thirty million' customers in Spain, Chile and Uruguay hacked
22 votes -
Supreme Court of the United States National Bank Act Preemption Ruling makes room for more state consumer protection regulations
5 votes -
Synapse, backed by a16z, has collapsed
17 votes -
Europe’s banks find breaking up with Russia is hard to do
10 votes -
Judge says up to twenty million fintech "depositors" are at risk from Synapse bankruptcy
9 votes -
How money and banking work (and why they're broken today)
3 votes -
Free Companies: The age of mercenary companies
7 votes -
There used to be a people’s bank at the US Post Office
37 votes -
Kansas bank collapse due to executive caught in pig butchering investment scam from Asia
32 votes -
Report finds that financiers providing billion-dollar support for industrial livestock companies to expand leading to unsustainable rise in production
5 votes -
Capital One to buy Discover Financial in $35.3 billion all-stock deal
32 votes -
Bad property debt exceeds reserves at largest US banks
23 votes -
As Bitcoin rallies, banks are pushing US regulators to change crypto guidance
8 votes -
How Cory Doctorow got scammed (and why AI will make it worse)
60 votes -
Julius Baer is another facepalm for Swiss banking
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‘No cash accepted’ signs are bad news for millions of unbanked Americans
55 votes -
New US bank-overdraft fee limits to go into effect
41 votes -
US markets get ready for risk-free Federal Reserve arbitrage trade to expire
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What is the importance of management jobs when applying for bank products?
I live in the EU. I recently applied for a credit card, and the banker asked me (about my job): "Is it a management role?" I realized that it is a question I have been asked several times in the...
I live in the EU. I recently applied for a credit card, and the banker asked me (about my job): "Is it a management role?"
I realized that it is a question I have been asked several times in the past by banks. I tried a cursory google & Reddit search, but I haven't found anyone being curious about this.
I'll try here then. Does anyone know why bankers ask this question? How does it matter? Are "individual contributors" seen as worse/riskier customers than managers?
I have my own informal, anecdotal opinion, but I'm hoping to hear some more informed answer.
26 votes