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In your opinion, what is the appropriate number of outfits to rotate through at work?

Background: I don't like choosing outfits in the morning for work. Due to whatever combination of mental issues/oddities I have, in the past I've gotten stuck at point for a very long time. After reading about how someone like Steve Jobs or Mark Zuckerberg wears the same thing every day, I decided to try a version of that to reduce the number of decisions I had to make each morning. I didn't actually want to wear the same thing every day, because then I'd become "the guy who wears the same thing every day" at work. So I decided to have a number of predetermined outfits that I rotate through. I have some number of dress shirts of various colors/patterns and a matching number of pants of various colors to go with them. I have a few pairs of shoes in the typical colors that I just match with the pants. I've been doing this for years now, and it's great for simplifying my daily routine, but I occasionally wonder if people notice.

So my question is: How many outfits do you personally think is the right number such that no one would notice? Alternatively, what number do you think would be the best for whatever reason?

To be clear, this is just a fun discussion question. I'm not really looking for help or advice. I won't say how many outfits I have on rotation right now to avoid anchoring.

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  1. [3]
    kovboydan
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    Assuming one works five days a week, my guess would be six “outfits.” This could be achieved minimally with: one pair of shoes, two or three pairs of identical pants, and six shirts. With six...

    Assuming one works five days a week, my guess would be six “outfits.” This could be achieved minimally with:

    • one pair of shoes,
    • two or three pairs of identical pants, and
    • six shirts.

    With six shirts, rather than five, one shirt can be rotated out each week and another rotated in. This would hopefully combat the tendency - accidental or not - to wear the same shirt on the same day. Which would be noticeable, perhaps even more so than the person who wears the same thing every day.

    So n+1 shirts is the answer, where n is the number of days in office each week.

    If you wear ties, shirts could be treated like pants and ties could be rotated. I’d say n-1 or n+1 ties works, but not n because of the tendency to wear the same ties on the same days.

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    1. cdb
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      This is exactly the conclusion I reached. I'm in the office 4-5 days a week, so I have 6 shirts, 6 pairs of pants, and 3 pairs of shoes that I rotate through continuously. After putting shirt back...

      This is exactly the conclusion I reached. I'm in the office 4-5 days a week, so I have 6 shirts, 6 pairs of pants, and 3 pairs of shoes that I rotate through continuously. After putting shirt back on the hanger, the hanger gets pushed to the left, and when the stack is finished all 6 hangers get pushed to the right. The pants are matched to the shirts, which doesn't change between washes (I wear an undershirt so I get a few uses before laundering), but I might mix it up after washing.

      I'm a little surprised that this is actually the highest suggested number, but I guess that's just how men's fashion works. Well, aside from mix-and-match, which I specifically don't want to do, because then we're back to making decisions.

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    2. myrrh
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      ...this is similar to what i've done for the past thirty years; i started from N*5+1 identical shirts and N+1 identical pants, where N are the number of weeks i cycle between laundry, but recently...

      ...this is similar to what i've done for the past thirty years; i started from N*5+1 identical shirts and N+1 identical pants, where N are the number of weeks i cycle between laundry, but recently i switched to an array of colors in otherwise identical shirts...

      ...after a few years, a couple of coworkers confessed that they'd bet whether i literally wore the same thing every day, secretly marked the back of a sleeve, and money changed hands when i came in with a fresh but otherwise indistinguishable uniform the next day: since then i've quit caring what other folks think and literally wear the same shirt all week as long as it stays clean...

      ...over the years, i've found that, like pants, with fresh undershirts every day i can often go a full week before outershirts merit laundry; i choose colors for myself, not my coworkers...

      3 votes
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    stu2b50
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    To be honest, if you're a guy, and you work in a place with a heavy uniform culture (e.g suits or business casual, but real business casual), you could probably wear the same thing every day as...

    To be honest, if you're a guy, and you work in a place with a heavy uniform culture (e.g suits or business casual, but real business casual), you could probably wear the same thing every day as long as it's sufficiently boring and no one would notice because your clothes are inherently so boring and invisible that even if you did vary them slightly, no one would notice still.

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    1. cdb
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      Funny thing is, one reason why I decided to post this is that I've noticed that some people have really repetitive work outfits and some people appear to be wearing something new every time I see...

      Funny thing is, one reason why I decided to post this is that I've noticed that some people have really repetitive work outfits and some people appear to be wearing something new every time I see them. The guy in the cube next to me wore the same maroon polo shirt twice this week. I'm not judging him for it, I just happened to notice. Since I noticed, I was wondering how much other people notice.

      2 votes
  3. [2]
    yourfavoriteauntie
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    Y'all are talking about a capsule wardrobe. Women have been talking about them for ages and now men seem to be interested in getting in on it, too. Dead useful. Essentially, you make a minimal,...

    Y'all are talking about a capsule wardrobe. Women have been talking about them for ages and now men seem to be interested in getting in on it, too. Dead useful. Essentially, you make a minimal, year round wardrobe with a set number of pieces that all mix and match with each other.

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    1. cdb
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      While I see the appeal of the idea (my wife has been trying this on and off), I think this is basically the opposite of what I want. My main requirements here are to have no decisions to make each...

      While I see the appeal of the idea (my wife has been trying this on and off), I think this is basically the opposite of what I want.

      My main requirements here are to have no decisions to make each day and to ensure that outfits don't appear repetitive. Having to mix and match every day doesn't fulfill the first requirement, and working with a limited number of items means repetition. Sure, it probably doesn't look repetitive if you mix it up right and almost everything matches with almost everything, but whether I've mixed things up enough or whether I've avoided the rare exceptions on matching are exactly the kind of decisions and thinking that I want to avoid.

      The idea that one pair of pants can go with multiple shirts is not appealing to me. I don't mind buying multiples of the same color pants just so I can have the same number of pants as shirts. I just want to make all the outfit decisions ahead of time, then not think about it for the next year.

      3 votes
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    stu2b50
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    As an aside, reading some of these responses, I do feel like men especially in the US have this rut when it comes to fashion, where they see it as something either beyond them or beneath them, and...

    As an aside, reading some of these responses, I do feel like men especially in the US have this rut when it comes to fashion, where they see it as something either beyond them or beneath them, and I really think it's a missed opportunity. It isn't a universal constant - in the west, this can (sort of) be linked to the Great Male Renunciation, and the point really is that it hasn't been a constant in civilized human history that men wore muted clothing, certainly not across different countries and not even within "western" culture throughout time.

    I liken it to eating only broiled chicken, broccoli, and rice every meal. It works, but you are missing one of the joys of life. I'm sure there are some for which a t-shirt and jeans and a hoodie is the right uniform for life, but just statistically, when you compare to, say, east asia, there's has to be people in the US that could be having more joy with their clothes than they are. In that respect, I think it's worthwhile just giving it a try - getting nicer clothes, experimenting more with style. Maybe it's for you, maybe it's not, but many people have never tried.

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      Wolf_359
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      What if I just really, really don't enjoy it? I actually think I dress okay for a teacher. It's pretty casual at my school so I wear various colors of well-fitting pants and polos with a pair a...

      What if I just really, really don't enjoy it?

      I actually think I dress okay for a teacher. It's pretty casual at my school so I wear various colors of well-fitting pants and polos with a pair a nice sneakers that are more toward the business casual side (not athletic shoes).

      I get a lot of compliments on my outfits and I definitely dress nicer than my male counterparts at work. But man, I hate doing it. I hate picking out the clothes, I hate trying to match outfits, I hate stressing about whether I've worn something too recently, etc.

      My wife helps me and it makes me feel like a dumb man. But I couldn't make myself enjoy it if I tried. I think this is a common experience among men, although not universal.

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      1. stu2b50
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        To some extent, you may just be someone that doesn't enjoy fashion. Like I said, But even allowing for that possibility, just looking at the clothes you are choosing between, it's not surprising...

        To some extent, you may just be someone that doesn't enjoy fashion. Like I said,

        I'm sure there are some for which a t-shirt and jeans and a hoodie is the right uniform for life, but just statistically, when you compare to, say, east asia, there's has to be people in the US that could be having more joy with their clothes than they are

        But even allowing for that possibility, just looking at the clothes you are choosing between, it's not surprising you don't find joy, when it's polos and slacks. To go back to the food analogy, it's like someone who has only been fed canned vegetables and boiled chicken (which is actually surprisingly common in US schools - it's not surprising a lot of people love fast food when it's only place where there's flavor in food in their life) going "yeah, cooking and restaurants just aren't for me, food is just food".

        It's a bit of a self-fullfilling prophecy, market-wise, but I think a lot of American men just never find clothes that they feel make them look or feel good.


        I just came back from a visit to Japan, and in general I spent a lot of time in China and Taiwan due to family reasons, and it's really clear that men care quite a bit more about fashion there. So personal preferences are personal experiences, but I put serious doubt on the extent to which

        I think this is a common experience among men, although not universal.

        is true. The wikipedia page on the Great Male Renunciation is also worth reading, in that respect.

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  5. first-must-burn
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    I worry about this from time to time, but also try to remember how often I notice what other people wear (almost never, unless it is very unusual, like a t-shirt with a printed slogan). In an...

    I worry about this from time to time, but also try to remember how often I notice what other people wear (almost never, unless it is very unusual, like a t-shirt with a printed slogan).

    In an effort to get more mileage out of my clothes, I wear undershirts and try to get two wears (non-consecutive days) out of my shirts and jeans. I default to darker plaids and checks (think Duluth Trading Company or L. L. Bean). I have a lot of similar-but-not-identical shirts, but if you look at engineers, they were a lot of blue overall, so I am not outside the norm. I've never had anybody say anything.

    Caveat that I work in engineering, primarily in casual environments where wearing a button-down shirt untucked with sneakers is on the more formal end for the office, and for "special occasions" I will tuck the shirt in and wear brown shoes instead.

    The real wardrobe hack for me is buying exactly one kind of jeans, one kind of sock (grey ankle length), one kind of underwear and one kind of undershirt (in a mix of grey and black). Before, I would find myself hunting through the laundry for the newer stuff because there was a noticeable difference between new and old things, e.g. the new socks were less saggy. I buy enough of each for ~2 weeks all at once, wear that set for 12-18 months, and when it needs replacing, I replace everything at once. That way everything is the same age, completely fungible, and I can grab things out of the laundry without thinking about which one I am grabbing.

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  6. nrktkt
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    It depends on your workplace of course. It sounds like you're semi-formal with dress shirts and pants. I'm going to assume you don't wear ties or formal coats. I think the trick is not to have...

    It depends on your workplace of course. It sounds like you're semi-formal with dress shirts and pants. I'm going to assume you don't wear ties or formal coats.

    I think the trick is not to have distinct "outfits". Instead have flexible items that pretty much all pair with each other. Then you can grab things at almost random and it'll match and there will be many combinations.

    As far as pants; one black, one navy, one grey, one brown (but a dark brown, like kuhl's "teak", otherwise you look like an insurance salesman or FBI agent). For shirts; white, black, light blue, dark blue, gray, light red/pink, dark green. I like solid colors because patterns make me feel like a cookie cutter product manager. Pockets and button down collars keep it casual. Black and brown shoes seem like enough.

    That's probably 20 something outfits with 11 items. I'd skip some combos like blue on blue, or navy on black.

    As far as a minimum number of outfits. Maybe 9? Depends how distinctive they are. People will remember the last time you wrote your neon lime Hawaiian shirt.

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  7. Sodliddesu
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    I mean, three pairs of slacks, three shirts of neutral enough colors to match with all the slacks nets you nine outfits. That let's you go almost two weeks without repeating. Most people probably...

    I mean, three pairs of slacks, three shirts of neutral enough colors to match with all the slacks nets you nine outfits. That let's you go almost two weeks without repeating. Most people probably won't notice with that set up. That'd be about as low as I would go. Even assuming somewhere cold enough for an undershirt I'd be too paranoid to get a stain on my one other shirt or something.

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  8. sparksbet
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    This post makes me so glad I both work remotely and work in tech where I can just cycle through graphic tees... I don't think I could emotionally handle having to put more thought into my daily...

    This post makes me so glad I both work remotely and work in tech where I can just cycle through graphic tees... I don't think I could emotionally handle having to put more thought into my daily appearance than I current do 😅

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  9. slothywaffle
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    Throw a jacket on and you can do more with less wardrobe. I learned this from Steve Harvey. He said you need 5 suits. Black, navy, brown, tan, grey. Then 2 white shirts, 2 cream, and 2 powder...

    Throw a jacket on and you can do more with less wardrobe. I learned this from Steve Harvey. He said you need 5 suits. Black, navy, brown, tan, grey. Then 2 white shirts, 2 cream, and 2 powder blue. You can mix and match 75 outfits. Wear the jacket if you walk around the office so more people see you in what appears to be a pretty different outfit. Get a bunch of ties that go with everything for more options.

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  10. lou
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    I feel that Steve Jobs and Zuckerberg ruined same-shirting for everyone. I don't care, though. I have 12 identical white t-shirts and a bunch of generic jeans. It could be any color, the reason...

    I feel that Steve Jobs and Zuckerberg ruined same-shirting for everyone. I don't care, though.

    I have 12 identical white t-shirts and a bunch of generic jeans. It could be any color, the reason why they're white is global warming and the fact that I live in Satan's asshole. I vowed to never be bound to needlessly hot clothes ever again.

    I wanna buy even more so I literally never have the option.

    I WFH right now but if I got an outside job I would just rotate them. If you don't wish to be known as "the same clothes guy", just get different variations of the same t-shirt. You could be "metal t-shirt guy*, or the "random bird t-shirt guy", or the "white t-shirt with a tiny almost irrelevant detail guy".

    The trick is to find a cheap store with a lot variations of the same model and buy 12 of them.

    If you're in a non-casual culture or environment, just replace t-shirt with an equally generic and reasonably comfortable formal equivalent.

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  11. ElectricBoogaloo
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    Oh, I can answer this one on the extreme end pretty easily: I have one "outfit". Exact same look every day, and it's distinctive. At any place I've worked it's lasted about 2 days of "look he's...

    Oh, I can answer this one on the extreme end pretty easily: I have one "outfit". Exact same look every day, and it's distinctive.

    At any place I've worked it's lasted about 2 days of "look he's wearing the same thing as yesterday! haha". After that, people just didn't care unless something weird happened like GASP I wear a sweater and obfuscates my normal look, and then I get compliments on my sweater.

    Really, nobody cares except that it gives them an opportunity to point out something unsual in their day, and once it's no longer unusual it simply doesn't matter to them.

    I can also say that I received a promotion citing very clearly that everyone knows who I am and how to find me. Am I a very important person? No. Critical? No. But everyone knows me, partially due to my dress.

    So wear whatever you want. Nobody cares unless/until it affects how easy it makes their day.

    p.s. I wear it at home, at work, after work, on vacation. I am distinctly recognizable even though it's not particularly unusual. I'm a shy person, introverted and I spend most of my time at home... and yet it's never caused me issue despite those facts.

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  12. knocklessmonster
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    I wear slacks or jeans and a polo with either a bomber jacket or some button-up I have. The polo changes, but I even wear the same slacks all week (tuesday/Thursday. Washed weekly, don't smell/get...

    I wear slacks or jeans and a polo with either a bomber jacket or some button-up I have. The polo changes, but I even wear the same slacks all week (tuesday/Thursday. Washed weekly, don't smell/get stained). I generally break things down to be the same size/brand in different colors.

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    Gramage
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    I wear black shoes black pants black tshirt and a black cap every day but I work in a kitchen lol

    I wear black shoes black pants black tshirt and a black cap every day but I work in a kitchen lol

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    1. BuckWylde
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      I work in a warehouse, so similar for me. The only thing I care about is being psyched about which band shirt I'm wearing.

      I work in a warehouse, so similar for me. The only thing I care about is being psyched about which band shirt I'm wearing.

  14. Notcoffeetable
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    The office culture I am in is pretty varied and as such I can be in meetings with people who wear suits every day or people just wearing sneakers, jeans, and a polo. I had the same annoyance...

    The office culture I am in is pretty varied and as such I can be in meetings with people who wear suits every day or people just wearing sneakers, jeans, and a polo.

    I had the same annoyance picking out an outfit each day. My solution was to adopt a uniform:

    • white dress shirt of good fit and quality, I buy 4-5 at a time from Men's Wearhouse. Though I wear it fairly casually, two buttons undone with a white v-neck t-shirt underneath.
    • dark jeans.
    • Nice dress shoes.
      With this outfit I feel comfortable meeting with anyone in the business. It fits my station so to speak.

    It's also a nice middle ground. I can dress up or down if I feel like it and it fits within the overton window of my style.

    I rotate through about 3 pairs of pants, 4-5 shirts, two pairs of shoes (I've been told they last longer if they get a day of rest).

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  15. unkz
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    I basically have two, which are actually almost identical (different color stripe down the side of the track pants, and the same tshirt but in different colours) but sometimes one will be in the...

    I basically have two, which are actually almost identical (different color stripe down the side of the track pants, and the same tshirt but in different colours) but sometimes one will be in the laundry.

    I have a lot of other clothes but I have basically stopped wearing them for anything other than formal events.

    Either nobody has noticed or nobody cares enough to have mentioned it.

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  16. PepperJackson
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    If you wear a suit, probably just one outfit. There was a news anchor who wore the same outfit every day for a year and no one said anything. But I generally agree with your idea of 6/7 shirts and...

    If you wear a suit, probably just one outfit. There was a news anchor who wore the same outfit every day for a year and no one said anything.

    But I generally agree with your idea of 6/7 shirts and maybe 3 pairs of slacks would be more than plenty.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hq3FcMTHqPs

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  17. Lapbunny
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    Depending on the workplace, I think you could get away with one good suit if you travel? Jeans and any button-down shirts are fine where I work and I have probably 12 shirts I rotate through...

    Depending on the workplace, I think you could get away with one good suit if you travel? Jeans and any button-down shirts are fine where I work and I have probably 12 shirts I rotate through frequently against 3-4 blue, black, and maroon jeans.

    If I could have my way, though, I've got a tropic pattern Vermont Flannel shirt I bought 8 years ago and I'd wear it every day like a cartoon character. I've got a coworker who wears pretty much the same thing every day and he doesn't get any flak for it, but I think wearing pink every day would be a little more noticeable than a slightly off-white button-down...

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  18. Plik
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    All of these feel too complicated to me, but I also absolutely hate putting any thought into "what should I wear today for work". I also somewhat recently just stopped caring at all about whether...

    All of these feel too complicated to me, but I also absolutely hate putting any thought into "what should I wear today for work". I also somewhat recently just stopped caring at all about whether anyone notices me wearing the same thing over and over again. It's been amazing.

    Gray slacks, black shoes, no belt, whatever shirt I pick. Shirts range from dress shirts to even simple solid color crew neck t-shirts.

    Multiples of the same underwear and socks minimizes thought even further.

  19. fuzzy
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    When I was in the office daily my general target was four or five pairs of pants and 10ish shirts so I could go two weeks without any repeats.

    When I was in the office daily my general target was four or five pairs of pants and 10ish shirts so I could go two weeks without any repeats.

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    nukeman
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    Are you in a four season climate? Three season? Two season? The former two tend to require two sets of outfits, while the later you can probably get away with just one.

    Are you in a four season climate? Three season? Two season? The former two tend to require two sets of outfits, while the later you can probably get away with just one.

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      cdb
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      Well, it's a temp controlled office with a parking garage, so there's not really any difference between seasons.

      Well, it's a temp controlled office with a parking garage, so there's not really any difference between seasons.

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        nukeman
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        But in the winter, would your work shirt be a short-sleeve or a long-sleeve? I guess I’m used to my long walk from the parking lot to my office as well as from the office building to the plant.

        But in the winter, would your work shirt be a short-sleeve or a long-sleeve?

        I guess I’m used to my long walk from the parking lot to my office as well as from the office building to the plant.

        1. cdb
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          Short or long sleeve is basically just a fashion choice for my situation.

          Short or long sleeve is basically just a fashion choice for my situation.