Yes. I frequently used Pocket. And, in fact, a significant portion of my submissions to Tildes were taken directly from Pocket's recommendations too. E.g. This recent Smithsonianmag article was...
Did anyone use either extensively?
Yes. I frequently used Pocket. And, in fact, a significant portion of my submissions to Tildes were taken directly from Pocket's recommendations too. E.g. This recent Smithsonianmag article was from Pocket. So this news actually really sucks, since Pocket was one of the best places to discover high-quality, long-form articles, IMO! :(
That may have factored into the decision, if it was becoming unreliable and would be too costly to get it working properly again. How did they manipulate it?
That may have factored into the decision, if it was becoming unreliable and would be too costly to get it working properly again.
I know when Amazon started trying to crack down on listings with fake reviews, unscrupulous sellers changed their tactics from buying fake reviews for their own products (to pump up their score...
I know when Amazon started trying to crack down on listings with fake reviews, unscrupulous sellers changed their tactics from buying fake reviews for their own products (to pump up their score and perceived popularity) to buying fake reviews for their competitors' products (in order to try to get Amazon to punish them or take down the listings).
Unless Fakespot accounted for something like this (and they very likely did or at least tried to), they would be flagging legitimate products for having fake reviews.
I used Pocket very frequently due to its integration with Kobo e-readers; you could send an article to Pocket and it would autosync with the Kobo to allow you to read the article "offline" on a...
I used Pocket very frequently due to its integration with Kobo e-readers; you could send an article to Pocket and it would autosync with the Kobo to allow you to read the article "offline" on a nice e-ink screen. Helped a lot with internet detoxing! Especially if you're a nerd like me who used IFTTT to send RSS feed updates to Pocket automatically... was kind of a dream. ;_; (edit: @tomf, you and I are kindred spirits)
The nice thing, though, is that the feature is very simple: Pocket articles are stored on-disk as easy-to-access .html files + images. So, I'm very hopeful that the Kobo hackers on http://mobileread.com will figure out a rudimentary way to fetch articles from other sources. There's already a forum post up, and I'm not surprised hehe.
Kobo devices are little Linux machines, and you can easily run shell scripts on command. In fact, I even wrote a little script that would "fix" my Pocket articles -- for some reason, my Kobo would format the html of synced Admiral Cloudberg articles incorrectly, such that the images would never render. But, my script would rewrite the article files in a way that made the images render properly, and you could run it directly from the Kobo menu. Was nifty!
I suppose in order to keep using that Omnivore hack will require staying on older firmware, since Kobo will likely update all the readers with one that removes the built-in Pocket functionality....
I suppose in order to keep using that Omnivore hack will require staying on older firmware, since Kobo will likely update all the readers with one that removes the built-in Pocket functionality.
Probably a few years ago now I set up my Kobo Forma to run KOReader, which has Wallabag support--once configured, you can initiate a sync process in KOReader and it will download any new unread articles that you saved to Wallabag as individual epubs in a specific folder on your device (and I think it also syncs read progross back to Wallabag). It was pretty kludgey back then though. Now I just wait until I've saved up maybe a dozen or so articles on Wallabag and then manually download them all as one giant epub, mark them all as read, and copy that to my Kobo. By the time I've finished reading them I'll usually have another dozen articles saved up and can do it over again.
I used pocket as a form of "light bookmark". My actual bookmarks bar is more for links I know I'll come back to long term whike Pocket was for "haha funny image/joke". The best part was tagging...
I used pocket as a form of "light bookmark". My actual bookmarks bar is more for links I know I'll come back to long term whike Pocket was for "haha funny image/joke". The best part was tagging content, something bookmarks can't do (AFAIK).
Not hard to replace, but I'll need to do some reorganization in June.
Not for long anymore, though 😬 https://tildes.net/~comp/1o5i/how_and_why_i_use_bookmark_keywords_and_bookmarklets_for_searching_in_firefox_and_why_im_scared
So I glanced over the linked bugzilla thread and as far as I understand they are planning to remove bookmark keywords which kind of duplicate the search shortcuts feature available in...
So I glanced over the linked bugzilla thread and as far as I understand they are planning to remove bookmark keywords which kind of duplicate the search shortcuts feature available in about:preferences#search, but there are no plans to remove bookmark tags. Am I missing something?
I use Pocket for a while a few years ago before realizing that it became just yet another place to save things "for later" and then never read them again.
I use Pocket for a while a few years ago before realizing that it became just yet another place to save things "for later" and then never read them again.
I just started using Fakespot pretty consistently in the last year after discovering for the first time somehow. I found it pretty useful to help get products. Felt like a helpful check if I was a...
I just started using Fakespot pretty consistently in the last year after discovering for the first time somehow. I found it pretty useful to help get products. Felt like a helpful check if I was a bit suspicious about something. Didn't realize it was suffering from manipulation because I found it to be pretty helpful. That's a shame really.
The first of many cuts Mozilla is going to have to make when Google is forced to suspend their search engine deals. I wonder what's even going to be left by the end; they already had brutal...
The first of many cuts Mozilla is going to have to make when Google is forced to suspend their search engine deals.
I wonder what's even going to be left by the end; they already had brutal layoffs at the onset of COVID, removing the entire Servo team, and forcing them into pure Firefox maintenance mode. Just a skeleton crew barely keeping up with web standards?
Just one day after Mozilla confirmed it’s shutting down Pocket, Digg co-founder and chairman Kevin Rose has stepped up with a public offer to take it over.
I use Pocket extensively, along with the service https://p2k.co , to send articles to my Kindle for reading later. I've used it for years now, ever since Instapaper jacked up their prices while...
I use Pocket extensively, along with the service https://p2k.co , to send articles to my Kindle for reading later. I've used it for years now, ever since Instapaper jacked up their prices while declining their service quality. I'm disappointed to have to look into options here again...
Pocket is natively integrated into my Kobo e-reader, and I use it pretty frequently. I never loved the way it was shoved into Firefox, but did appreciate the service. I'll be sad to see it shut...
Pocket is natively integrated into my Kobo e-reader, and I use it pretty frequently. I never loved the way it was shoved into Firefox, but did appreciate the service. I'll be sad to see it shut down entirely.
It seems like I read that KOReader supports Wallabag, which might be an option, but I've always just used the native Nickel interface and haven't made the jump to KOReader.
It seems like I read that KOReader supports Wallabag, which might be an option, but I've always just used the native Nickel interface and haven't made the jump to KOReader.
So I installed a self-hosted Wallabag instance on my raspberry Pi (that I use as a very cheap server) and connected my Kobo to it (using this https://gitlab.com/anarcat/wallabako) and it works...
So I installed a self-hosted Wallabag instance on my raspberry Pi (that I use as a very cheap server) and connected my Kobo to it (using this https://gitlab.com/anarcat/wallabako) and it works well. A little clunky and a bit hacky, but better than nothing!
Fakespot would pop up usually when viewing Amazon listings, but I really never found it helpful. Good idea in theory I suppose, but the execution really wasn't there.
Fakespot would pop up usually when viewing Amazon listings, but I really never found it helpful. Good idea in theory I suppose, but the execution really wasn't there.
I used Pocket up until a couple of years ago when it suddenly stopped syncing as well as it used to. Loved being able to save an article, start reading it on my phone, then take a break, and then...
I used Pocket up until a couple of years ago when it suddenly stopped syncing as well as it used to. Loved being able to save an article, start reading it on my phone, then take a break, and then continue at night when I'd get home to my computer.
And then about two years ago, I'd follow the same process, save an article, start reading, take a break, come back to it and it didn't remember the spot where I paused. I'd have to read from the beginning again. Didn't matter what device I used, it just couldn't remember where I paused.
I switched to Instapaper and have been happy with it.
Inspired by these news, I made a script that downloads pages added to a folder in my bookmarks bar using Monolith and generates an HTML file listing each URL. I'm really happy with the result, the...
Inspired by these news, I made a script that downloads pages added to a folder in my bookmarks bar using Monolith and generates an HTML file listing each URL.
I'm really happy with the result, the output is then sync using Synchting with my phone, making it super easy to read any article offline, I should have thought about it before.
Shame about Fakespot I guess. No love lost from me about Pocket. Less things to disable in the settings now.
Did anyone use either extensively?
Yes. I frequently used Pocket. And, in fact, a significant portion of my submissions to Tildes were taken directly from Pocket's recommendations too. E.g. This recent Smithsonianmag article was from Pocket. So this news actually really sucks, since Pocket was one of the best places to discover high-quality, long-form articles, IMO! :(
pocket is/was great. I have it combined with IFTTT and a bunch of RSS feeds
Or maybe you'll spam Tildes less! Win-win!
I kid, I kid. Definitely lose-lose :(
I used Fakespot extensively when it first launched. In the last two years especially, it's really gotten manipulated and useless.
That may have factored into the decision, if it was becoming unreliable and would be too costly to get it working properly again.
How did they manipulate it?
I know when Amazon started trying to crack down on listings with fake reviews, unscrupulous sellers changed their tactics from buying fake reviews for their own products (to pump up their score and perceived popularity) to buying fake reviews for their competitors' products (in order to try to get Amazon to punish them or take down the listings).
Unless Fakespot accounted for something like this (and they very likely did or at least tried to), they would be flagging legitimate products for having fake reviews.
I used pocket briefly back when it was ReadItLater. It was fine, but bookmark sync did everything I needed
I used Pocket very frequently due to its integration with Kobo e-readers; you could send an article to Pocket and it would autosync with the Kobo to allow you to read the article "offline" on a nice e-ink screen. Helped a lot with internet detoxing! Especially if you're a nerd like me who used IFTTT to send RSS feed updates to Pocket automatically... was kind of a dream. ;_; (edit: @tomf, you and I are kindred spirits)
The nice thing, though, is that the feature is very simple: Pocket articles are stored on-disk as easy-to-access
.htmlfiles + images. So, I'm very hopeful that the Kobo hackers on http://mobileread.com will figure out a rudimentary way to fetch articles from other sources. There's already a forum post up, and I'm not surprised hehe.Kobo devices are little Linux machines, and you can easily run shell scripts on command. In fact, I even wrote a little script that would "fix" my Pocket articles -- for some reason, my Kobo would format the html of synced Admiral Cloudberg articles incorrectly, such that the images would never render. But, my script would rewrite the article files in a way that made the images render properly, and you could run it directly from the Kobo menu. Was nifty!
Oh, it already exists! KoboOmnivoreConverter: GitHub + Hacker News
I suppose in order to keep using that Omnivore hack will require staying on older firmware, since Kobo will likely update all the readers with one that removes the built-in Pocket functionality.
Probably a few years ago now I set up my Kobo Forma to run KOReader, which has Wallabag support--once configured, you can initiate a sync process in KOReader and it will download any new unread articles that you saved to Wallabag as individual epubs in a specific folder on your device (and I think it also syncs read progross back to Wallabag). It was pretty kludgey back then though. Now I just wait until I've saved up maybe a dozen or so articles on Wallabag and then manually download them all as one giant epub, mark them all as read, and copy that to my Kobo. By the time I've finished reading them I'll usually have another dozen articles saved up and can do it over again.
I used pocket as a form of "light bookmark". My actual bookmarks bar is more for links I know I'll come back to long term whike Pocket was for "haha funny image/joke". The best part was tagging content, something bookmarks can't do (AFAIK).
Not hard to replace, but I'll need to do some reorganization in June.
Firefox does have tags for bookmarks
https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/categorizing-bookmarks-make-them-easy-to-find
Not for long anymore, though 😬
https://tildes.net/~comp/1o5i/how_and_why_i_use_bookmark_keywords_and_bookmarklets_for_searching_in_firefox_and_why_im_scared
So I glanced over the linked bugzilla thread and as far as I understand they are planning to remove bookmark keywords which kind of duplicate the search shortcuts feature available in about:preferences#search, but there are no plans to remove bookmark tags. Am I missing something?
I probably conflated the two
huh, neat. Completely overlooked that. I'll try to take advatadge of that next time I organize all my bookmarks
I use Pocket for a while a few years ago before realizing that it became just yet another place to save things "for later" and then never read them again.
I hadn't even heard of fakespot. I didn't see a use for pocket and also disabled it.
I just started using Fakespot pretty consistently in the last year after discovering for the first time somehow. I found it pretty useful to help get products. Felt like a helpful check if I was a bit suspicious about something. Didn't realize it was suffering from manipulation because I found it to be pretty helpful. That's a shame really.
The first of many cuts Mozilla is going to have to make when Google is forced to suspend their search engine deals.
I wonder what's even going to be left by the end; they already had brutal layoffs at the onset of COVID, removing the entire Servo team, and forcing them into pure Firefox maintenance mode. Just a skeleton crew barely keeping up with web standards?
lol but they have time to completely break bookmark keyword functionality
Digg co-founder offers to save Pocket as Mozilla winds it down (9to5Mac)
I use Pocket extensively, along with the service https://p2k.co , to send articles to my Kindle for reading later. I've used it for years now, ever since Instapaper jacked up their prices while declining their service quality. I'm disappointed to have to look into options here again...
Pocket is natively integrated into my Kobo e-reader, and I use it pretty frequently. I never loved the way it was shoved into Firefox, but did appreciate the service. I'll be sad to see it shut down entirely.
Yeah me also. I am going to have to figure out something else to throw articles on my Kobo.
It seems like I read that KOReader supports Wallabag, which might be an option, but I've always just used the native Nickel interface and haven't made the jump to KOReader.
So I installed a self-hosted Wallabag instance on my raspberry Pi (that I use as a very cheap server) and connected my Kobo to it (using this https://gitlab.com/anarcat/wallabako) and it works well. A little clunky and a bit hacky, but better than nothing!
Fakespot would pop up usually when viewing Amazon listings, but I really never found it helpful. Good idea in theory I suppose, but the execution really wasn't there.
I used Pocket up until a couple of years ago when it suddenly stopped syncing as well as it used to. Loved being able to save an article, start reading it on my phone, then take a break, and then continue at night when I'd get home to my computer.
And then about two years ago, I'd follow the same process, save an article, start reading, take a break, come back to it and it didn't remember the spot where I paused. I'd have to read from the beginning again. Didn't matter what device I used, it just couldn't remember where I paused.
I switched to Instapaper and have been happy with it.
Inspired by these news, I made a script that downloads pages added to a folder in my bookmarks bar using Monolith and generates an HTML file listing each URL.
I'm really happy with the result, the output is then sync using Synchting with my phone, making it super easy to read any article offline, I should have thought about it before.
This is a pity. Maybe silly question, is there a reason why Mozilla don't open source Pocket's code?