Picard, but if I was in a fight I would want Kirk on my side. Those two handed blows to the back could take down anything - gotta admire that kind of fighting skill ;-)
Picard, but if I was in a fight I would want Kirk on my side.
Those two handed blows to the back could take down anything - gotta admire that kind of fighting skill ;-)
Picard. I don’t know as much of Kirk, but Picard pretty much always stuck to his principles and was, in many cases, as close to absolutely morally right as it was possible to go. He had incredible...
Picard. I don’t know as much of Kirk, but Picard pretty much always stuck to his principles and was, in many cases, as close to absolutely morally right as it was possible to go. He had incredible mental strength and fortitude and could work under an extreme amount of stress.
Yea, that's gotta be the main difference between Kirk and Picard. Picard would analyse situations using his crafted morals. He'd take time to come to a conclusion before acting. Kirk would instead...
Yea, that's gotta be the main difference between Kirk and Picard.
Picard would analyse situations using his crafted morals. He'd take time to come to a conclusion before acting.
Kirk would instead use his gut as well as the contrasting advice of Spock and McCoy to come to a middle ground. When he didn't have their advice, he would make brash decisions that ended up okay mostly by luck.
I can never tell if Sisko is my favourite because he's just a really fucking good captain or if it's because Avery Brooks' acting is always entirely off the rails.
I can never tell if Sisko is my favourite because he's just a really fucking good captain or if it's because Avery Brooks' acting is always entirely off the rails.
Came here to say this. Dude faced down a horde of angry Klingons, the schemes of Cardassia, Bajoran plots, and the entire Dominion and didn't lose his station (well, except that one time)
Came here to say this. Dude faced down a horde of angry Klingons, the schemes of Cardassia, Bajoran plots, and the entire Dominion and didn't lose his station (well, except that one time)
I love that Sisko operated in gray areas that Picard wouldn't. In my mind it made him much more interesting. Picard couldn't have an episode like In The Pale Moonlight.
I love that Sisko operated in gray areas that Picard wouldn't. In my mind it made him much more interesting. Picard couldn't have an episode like In The Pale Moonlight.
Next Generation was better than the original so most people will probably say Picard. That being said, I'm going to have to go with Picard as well. I love this scene from First Contact
Next Generation was better than the original so most people will probably say Picard.
In all seriousness, TOS was not a good show. I see why people liked it at the time. I grew up watching it and enjoyed it. But much the same way I can watch the original Power Rangers and see how...
In all seriousness, TOS was not a good show. I see why people liked it at the time. I grew up watching it and enjoyed it. But much the same way I can watch the original Power Rangers and see how terrible it is vs how much I enjoyed it as a kid, I can't watch TOS and really enjoy it as an adult. The writing and the acting were both terrible with a few exceptions, Shatner not being one.
TNG has a lot of rough patches, but overall was a great show with talented actors and often good writers.
Picard was a much better captain as well as a more well-rounded character.
Aw, man, TOS is great. While the writing never reaches the heights of TNG, and the acting can be a bit hammy now and then (I'm looking at you, Shatner), it's still an enjoyable show. I think the...
Aw, man, TOS is great. While the writing never reaches the heights of TNG, and the acting can be a bit hammy now and then (I'm looking at you, Shatner), it's still an enjoyable show. I think the camp adds to the appeal, and the minimalism plays a huge part in the overall aesthetic.
It was basically The Twilight Zone in space. It's awesome because of that, and it scratches a whole different kind of itch than TNG.
I find that TOS works a lot better as an adult if you look at it more as a barrage of ideas. It usually isn't trying to do anything more than say "hey, here's a cool idea" anyway so it really...
I find that TOS works a lot better as an adult if you look at it more as a barrage of ideas. It usually isn't trying to do anything more than say "hey, here's a cool idea" anyway so it really lends itself to that kind of viewing.
Yeah, I think TOS is something that really needs to be appreciated compared against the standards of its time. It was the only show MLK would allow his kids to watch, after all! I'd say that TNG...
Yeah, I think TOS is something that really needs to be appreciated compared against the standards of its time. It was the only show MLK would allow his kids to watch, after all!
I'd say that TNG has more lasting value, but TOS was more of a breakthrough.
Kirk is the cooler first-person fantasy to be in his shoes. But if I was stationed on a starship with one as my captain, it'd have to be Picard. Picard makes for better TV too. Moral dilemmas are...
Kirk is the cooler first-person fantasy to be in his shoes. But if I was stationed on a starship with one as my captain, it'd have to be Picard. Picard makes for better TV too. Moral dilemmas are much more exciting than visceral conflict, and it keeps you thinking about and remembering the episodes after they are over.
Sorry, no sale. She killed Tuvix, over the clear objections of her medical officer, who refused to do harm. Second, we know the Vulcan axiom that "the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the...
Sorry, no sale. She killed Tuvix, over the clear objections of her medical officer, who refused to do harm. Second, we know the Vulcan axiom that "the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.. or the one", therefore, I don't believe that Tuvok would have supported her choice either, considering that he did exist as part of Tuvix. Plus, he seemed to really enjoy cooking, and I'm sure on that level, he would have enjoyed being part of Neelix. Also, I doubt that Neelix would have been very pleased that someone had to die for him to live, when he still existed inside Tuvix. Remember, he really liked Tuvok, and I think he would loved the idea of being inside Mr. Vulcan to make him smile and dance more often.
Captain Jean-Luc Picard of the USS Enterprise https://youtu.be/X6oUz1v17Uo The dude is steadfast in his beliefs. I'd even take Riker over Kirk. Numbah one.
my captains power ranking goes: Sisko Janeway (fight me) Picard Archer Kirk Georgiou and Lorca are excluded from ranking because they weren't lead characters in their series.
my captains power ranking goes:
Sisko
Janeway (fight me)
Picard
Archer
Kirk
Georgiou and Lorca are excluded from ranking because they weren't lead characters in their series.
But what about a team competition? Kirk, Spock, McCoy vs. Picard, Data, Riker I definitely prefer Picard over Kirk on an individual captain basis, but TOS had arguably the best ensemble feel of...
But what about a team competition?
Kirk, Spock, McCoy vs. Picard, Data, Riker
I definitely prefer Picard over Kirk on an individual captain basis, but TOS had arguably the best ensemble feel of all the Treks. Though DS9 gives TOS a run for its money in that regard.
Picard no doubt. In a fight Kirk would just be gettin’ all distracted by alien strange and layin’ on his usual old, “I just wanna talk and get to know you and what makes you tick, baby,” ruse. He...
Picard no doubt. In a fight Kirk would just be gettin’ all distracted by alien strange and layin’ on his usual old, “I just wanna talk and get to know you and what makes you tick, baby,” ruse. He was always after the crazy ones.
I would be scared shitless if I was on a ship run by Kirk. The replacement rate for that ship must be absurdly high. Picard comes across as far more diplomatic than Kirk.
I would be scared shitless if I was on a ship run by Kirk. The replacement rate for that ship must be absurdly high. Picard comes across as far more diplomatic than Kirk.
Picard makes total sense as first choice, but come on. James Tiberius Kirk? What else needs to be said? Nimoy talked about how he embodied the physicality of the show, and it's true. When you look...
Picard makes total sense as first choice, but come on. James Tiberius Kirk? What else needs to be said?
Nimoy talked about how he embodied the physicality of the show, and it's true. When you look at it from that angle you can start to appreciate what Shatner brought to the table.
Picard, but if I was in a fight I would want Kirk on my side.
Those two handed blows to the back could take down anything - gotta admire that kind of fighting skill ;-)
I'd want Picard on my side before the fight, though. Because with him there's a good chance to end the fight before it starts.
And if we're having a space battle, I'd rather pick the starship from the 24th century.
Picard. I don’t know as much of Kirk, but Picard pretty much always stuck to his principles and was, in many cases, as close to absolutely morally right as it was possible to go. He had incredible mental strength and fortitude and could work under an extreme amount of stress.
Yea, that's gotta be the main difference between Kirk and Picard.
Picard would analyse situations using his crafted morals. He'd take time to come to a conclusion before acting.
Kirk would instead use his gut as well as the contrasting advice of Spock and McCoy to come to a middle ground. When he didn't have their advice, he would make brash decisions that ended up okay mostly by luck.
Sisko.
Fight me.
I can never tell if Sisko is my favourite because he's just a really fucking good captain or if it's because Avery Brooks' acting is always entirely off the rails.
Some say that Avery Brooks picks bits of the DS9 set out of his teeth to this day
he never brought lunch to the set because he'd fill up on scenery
it worked so well for that character though
Avery Brooks~~'s acting~~ is always entirely off the rails.
Have you ever seen
The Captainson netflix? He's a little wacky.yes! he's just like that all the time! although the rumour is that he hammed it up for the doc.
@Deimos are we going to get striking in our markdown at some point?
LMAO
Well who else has punched Q in the face? NOBODY MESSES WITH THE EMISSARY!
Came here to say this. Dude faced down a horde of angry Klingons, the schemes of Cardassia, Bajoran plots, and the entire Dominion and didn't lose his station (well, except that one time)
And he made sure to let Gul Dukat know that he was coming back to reclaim the station.
I love that Sisko operated in gray areas that Picard wouldn't. In my mind it made him much more interesting. Picard couldn't have an episode like In The Pale Moonlight.
By the same token I'm not sure Sisko could have had a Chain of Command. Love em both but Sisko was better tbh
Next Generation was better than the original so most people will probably say Picard.
That being said, I'm going to have to go with Picard as well. I love this scene from First Contact
You'd think by the time the Sovereign class was built they'd have made glass a little more difficult to break.
Yeah, and why are they using glass at all when they could be using transparent aluminum? ;)
Picard for me.
Better spoken, considerably more stable as a captain.
And plus, he has his own saddle. Every proper rider should have his own saddle.
In all seriousness, TOS was not a good show. I see why people liked it at the time. I grew up watching it and enjoyed it. But much the same way I can watch the original Power Rangers and see how terrible it is vs how much I enjoyed it as a kid, I can't watch TOS and really enjoy it as an adult. The writing and the acting were both terrible with a few exceptions, Shatner not being one.
TNG has a lot of rough patches, but overall was a great show with talented actors and often good writers.
Picard was a much better captain as well as a more well-rounded character.
Aw, man, TOS is great. While the writing never reaches the heights of TNG, and the acting can be a bit hammy now and then (I'm looking at you, Shatner), it's still an enjoyable show. I think the camp adds to the appeal, and the minimalism plays a huge part in the overall aesthetic.
It was basically The Twilight Zone in space. It's awesome because of that, and it scratches a whole different kind of itch than TNG.
I find that TOS works a lot better as an adult if you look at it more as a barrage of ideas. It usually isn't trying to do anything more than say "hey, here's a cool idea" anyway so it really lends itself to that kind of viewing.
Yeah, I think TOS is something that really needs to be appreciated compared against the standards of its time. It was the only show MLK would allow his kids to watch, after all!
I'd say that TNG has more lasting value, but TOS was more of a breakthrough.
Kirk is the cooler first-person fantasy to be in his shoes. But if I was stationed on a starship with one as my captain, it'd have to be Picard. Picard makes for better TV too. Moral dilemmas are much more exciting than visceral conflict, and it keeps you thinking about and remembering the episodes after they are over.
Am I allowed to vote Janeway?
She had her flaws but she was goddamn fearless and got her crew home against incredible odds.
Sorry, no sale. She killed Tuvix, over the clear objections of her medical officer, who refused to do harm. Second, we know the Vulcan axiom that "the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.. or the one", therefore, I don't believe that Tuvok would have supported her choice either, considering that he did exist as part of Tuvix. Plus, he seemed to really enjoy cooking, and I'm sure on that level, he would have enjoyed being part of Neelix. Also, I doubt that Neelix would have been very pleased that someone had to die for him to live, when he still existed inside Tuvix. Remember, he really liked Tuvok, and I think he would loved the idea of being inside Mr. Vulcan to make him smile and dance more often.
Janeway's moral compass pointed wherever they needed it to that week. Picard is superior.
Oh that's a good answer!
Captain Jean-Luc Picard of the USS Enterprise
https://youtu.be/X6oUz1v17Uo
The dude is steadfast in his beliefs. I'd even take Riker over Kirk. Numbah one.
my captains power ranking goes:
Georgiou and Lorca are excluded from ranking because they weren't lead characters in their series.
Kirk at the very bottom? Movie Kirk was pretty good though right?
well he sure saved some whales
But what about a team competition?
Kirk, Spock, McCoy vs. Picard, Data, Riker
I definitely prefer Picard over Kirk on an individual captain basis, but TOS had arguably the best ensemble feel of all the Treks. Though DS9 gives TOS a run for its money in that regard.
Love me some DS9. They expanded a lot on Ferengi and the Rules of Acquisition tickle me to no end.
Pirk! Oh wait... no, I changed my mind... Kicard!
Picard isn't as reckless, Kirk seems like he has a little luck on his side.
Galloping around the cosmos is a game for the young
Picard is the superior captain. That's a scientific fact.
Picard no doubt. In a fight Kirk would just be gettin’ all distracted by alien strange and layin’ on his usual old, “I just wanna talk and get to know you and what makes you tick, baby,” ruse. He was always after the crazy ones.
I would be scared shitless if I was on a ship run by Kirk. The replacement rate for that ship must be absurdly high. Picard comes across as far more diplomatic than Kirk.
Picard makes total sense as first choice, but come on. James Tiberius Kirk? What else needs to be said?
Nimoy talked about how he embodied the physicality of the show, and it's true. When you look at it from that angle you can start to appreciate what Shatner brought to the table.
Holden.