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Development of a live-action film of The Legend of Zelda to start

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  1. babypuncher
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    I'm not necessarily hyped about this. A Legend of Zelda movie could be good, but they aren't giving me any reason to believe this one will be. This also seems like something that will be insanely...

    I'm not necessarily hyped about this. A Legend of Zelda movie could be good, but they aren't giving me any reason to believe this one will be. This also seems like something that will be insanely hard to pull off.

    I thought the Mario movie was pretty underwhelming. It was a bog standard Illumination snoozefest with its few highlights mostly hinging on nostalgia for the older games.

    The only talent attached so far is that guy who did the Maze Runner movies, so not much real pedigree to speak of.

    23 votes
  2. spock_vulcan
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    This is a quote by Yahtzee Croshaw in one of the early "Extra Punctuation" videos. Maybe slightly muddled by my poor memory. "Adapting a video game IP to film or television should not be...

    This is a quote by Yahtzee Croshaw in one of the early "Extra Punctuation" videos. Maybe slightly muddled by my poor memory.

    "Adapting a video game IP to film or television should not be considered as an elevation of the IP. It's a reduction. There are feelings/emotions/immersion that can be only conveyed through the interactivity of video games. You cannot replicate the same feeling through a movie adaptation. That would be like trying to appreciate a great movie as a series of still paintings, or trying to appreciate a great painting by examining only one pixel at a time." -or something to that effect

    15 votes
  3. [15]
    OBLIVIATER
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    I really really hope its not in the same vein as the Mario movie. Are they going to make Link mute? Or will they gonna get Chris Pratt to do a terrible accent for him too

    I really really hope its not in the same vein as the Mario movie. Are they going to make Link mute? Or will they gonna get Chris Pratt to do a terrible accent for him too

    13 votes
    1. [8]
      stu2b50
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      Well, it's live action, so Chris Pratt would have to play him as well, so probably not. That being said, I think Chris Pratt did a good job in the mario movie. The trailer was misleading in a bad...

      Well, it's live action, so Chris Pratt would have to play him as well, so probably not.

      That being said, I think Chris Pratt did a good job in the mario movie. The trailer was misleading in a bad way, he didn't really try to have an italian accent in the movie, which was appropriate for what they did, since Mario is like a second or third generation Italian American in the movie, and if you go to brooklyn today you don't hear a lot of "mamma mia's o mah spaghetti" when you walk around.

      20 votes
      1. [7]
        sneakeyboard
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        While it sounds repetitive, the problem with the Mario movie is the same problem every animated film has had since the genie’s success as a character. Popular celebrity names are thrown around as...

        While it sounds repetitive, the problem with the Mario movie is the same problem every animated film has had since the genie’s success as a character. Popular celebrity names are thrown around as if this fact alone automatically made the film a masterpiece.

        No one remembers the failures of that emoji film. I just spent 3 minutes looking up the name of the film Pixels (so bad I couldn’t remember it). But you’d remember the Batman Lego movie being good before naming a voice actor and saying “yea it made sense to spend all the money on Christian Bale as Batman again.”

        Regardless of who’s cast as the voice for a specific character, I’m going to be skeptical and will probably skip this one if all I hear is something along the lines of “Morgan freeman as The Great Deku Tree!” Which sounds great for margins but I think we need to dissociate the name of an actor with the success of an animated film. Just focus on a good story and stop spending all the budget on bringing these popular celebrities.

        13 votes
        1. [2]
          JoshuaJ
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          What? No it was Will Arnett. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lego_Batman_Movie

          Christian Bale as Batman again

          What?

          No it was Will Arnett.

          https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lego_Batman_Movie

          13 votes
          1. sneakeyboard
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            I meant this as in bringing him back into another Batman film. I’m aware he wasn’t the voice actor.

            I meant this as in bringing him back into another Batman film. I’m aware he wasn’t the voice actor.

            5 votes
        2. [3]
          stu2b50
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          Why is this a problem? Who exactly said the mario movie was a masterpiece, let alone because the voice actors? I feel like this is making not just a strawman, but an absurd one. The mario movie...

          the problem with the Mario movie is the same problem every animated film has had since the genie’s success as a character. Popular celebrity names are thrown around as if this fact alone automatically made the film a masterpiece.

          Why is this a problem? Who exactly said the mario movie was a masterpiece, let alone because the voice actors? I feel like this is making not just a strawman, but an absurd one. The mario movie was fairly well received, but as a well executed kids movie with enough references and fanservice for the many, many mario fans over the years that adults can enjoy it as much as the kids.

          In terms of discourse, if anything Chris Pratt's selection as mario was more criticized than a reason people proclaimed it to be a masterpiece (seriously, did anyone say that?). And it was overblown - in terms of actual voice work, the only character I was disappointed with was Seth Rogan as DK. Everyone else was solid. Chris Pratt as the mario in the mario origin story was absolutely fine.

          I’m going to be skeptical and will probably skip this one if all I hear is something along the lines of “Morgan freeman as The Great Deku Tree!” Which sounds great for margins but I think we need to dissociate the name of an actor with the success of an animated film.

          This just feels like a complete non-sequitar. Not only has no one in the thread associated the name of actors with the success of animated films, either directly or indirectly, but again, the zelda movie is purportedly live action, NOT animated, so it's a null conversation anyway!

          6 votes
          1. [2]
            sneakeyboard
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            I’ll need to clarify: this isn’t an attack on the film itself but rather on the marketing of the film. The movie is fine and did well. The voice acting was fairly good too. I know nobody here...

            I’ll need to clarify: this isn’t an attack on the film itself but rather on the marketing of the film. The movie is fine and did well. The voice acting was fairly good too. I know nobody here called it a masterpiece. However, the actor’s manes in animated films has always been used as a selling point; even when the quality is not there. This is not going to change.

            1 vote
            1. stu2b50
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              If you’re talking about advertisement, then I don’t see why you wouldn’t mention your famous voice actors if you have them. It would practically be advertising malpractice if you didn’t sell that....

              If you’re talking about advertisement, then I don’t see why you wouldn’t mention your famous voice actors if you have them. It would practically be advertising malpractice if you didn’t sell that. The advertising department doesn’t make the movie. Are you expecting them to not advertise the movie if they think it’s not good?

              3 votes
        3. thefilmslayer
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          Pixels and The Emoji Movie were so terrible I think you can forgive society for having collectively forgotten them.

          Pixels and The Emoji Movie were so terrible I think you can forgive society for having collectively forgotten them.

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      teaearlgraycold
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      It will be failed from the start if he says anything but "Hyyyyy-ut!" "Yaaaaaaaah" and "Ough".

      It will be failed from the start if he says anything but "Hyyyyy-ut!" "Yaaaaaaaah" and "Ough".

      11 votes
      1. EmperorPenguin
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        Hey, give Link more credit than that... he said "come on!" in Wind Waker!

        Hey, give Link more credit than that... he said "come on!" in Wind Waker!

        3 votes
    3. [2]
      guppy
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      Did you watch the Mario movie? My son absolutely loved it and so did ever other kid his age that I know. I liked the movie too, even though I was sceptical about the casting at the time.

      Did you watch the Mario movie? My son absolutely loved it and so did ever other kid his age that I know. I liked the movie too, even though I was sceptical about the casting at the time.

      9 votes
      1. EnigmaNL
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        I was skeptical too, but Chris Pratt did just fine. I was actually glad about how they did it, it would have been extremely annoying if Mario spoke like he does in the games for the entire...

        I was skeptical too, but Chris Pratt did just fine. I was actually glad about how they did it, it would have been extremely annoying if Mario spoke like he does in the games for the entire duration of the movie.

        4 votes
    4. nothis
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      “Yep, that’s me, chilling in Kokayrey forest without a care in the world. That was about a minute before I found out about this guy.”

      “Yep, that’s me, chilling in Kokayrey forest without a care in the world. That was about a minute before I found out about this guy.”

      14 votes
    5. Halfdan
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      Didn't even knew there were a new Mario movie. When reading your post, I thought of the 1993 one. (which was hardly a masterpiece!)

      Didn't even knew there were a new Mario movie. When reading your post, I thought of the 1993 one. (which was hardly a masterpiece!)

      1 vote
  4. [5]
    cloud_loud
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    The film will be produced by Nintendo and Arad Productions Inc., and directed by Wes Ball (Maze Runner, Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes). The film will be co-financed by Nintendo and Sony Pictures Entertainment Inc., with more than 50% financed by Nintendo. The theatrical distribution of the film will be done worldwide by Sony Pictures Entertainment Inc.

    9 votes
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      nothis
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      Interesting that Sony, of all companies, will finance a Nintendo movie.

      Interesting that Sony, of all companies, will finance a Nintendo movie.

      10 votes
      1. MetaMoss
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        If I remember right, the Sony hack revealed that they were interested in doing Mario and even were in talks with Nintendo about it, so there's at least a little precedent.

        If I remember right, the Sony hack revealed that they were interested in doing Mario and even were in talks with Nintendo about it, so there's at least a little precedent.

        5 votes
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        lou
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        The movie is clearly going forward and may be a success regardless, so why not take a bite from your competitor's money? Besides, I'm sure there's a large degree of independence and even rivalry...

        The movie is clearly going forward and may be a success regardless, so why not take a bite from your competitor's money? Besides, I'm sure there's a large degree of independence and even rivalry between different branches of a conglomerate.

        3 votes
        1. nothis
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          Also: They’re both Japanese. It’s 2023 but I bet in Japan things like that still matter.

          Also: They’re both Japanese. It’s 2023 but I bet in Japan things like that still matter.

          1 vote
  5. CannibalisticApple
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    I think it's way too early to offer any judgment. I admittedly haven't played many Zelda games, but even I know that the tone can vary wildly between entries. The story beats can be incredibly...

    I think it's way too early to offer any judgment. I admittedly haven't played many Zelda games, but even I know that the tone can vary wildly between entries. The story beats can be incredibly different too, and the setting can change a LOT. Just look at Link's Awakening versus Majora's Mask, and most older entries versus Breath of the Wild.

    This news is basically just "plans for this film exist". No real details we can use to predict how it will be beyond the fact that Nintendo seems to be the primary party behind it. There's near-infinite possibilities on how it can be executed.

    9 votes
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    rip_rike
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    the kid in me is loosing his shit with excitement right now!!! but i’m highly skeptical about how this will turn out. there are so many different styles and level of seriousness (for lack of a...

    the kid in me is loosing his shit with excitement right now!!!

    but i’m highly skeptical about how this will turn out. there are so many different styles and level of seriousness (for lack of a better word) throughout the series and I wonder how they’ll pick one.

    I want it to be good so very much!

    7 votes
    1. [6]
      EmperorPenguin
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      I'm not instantly assuming it's going to be bad either, like some people seem to be. I want it to succeed. So far, I'm glad they didn't go with Illumination. While they could probably handle...

      I'm not instantly assuming it's going to be bad either, like some people seem to be. I want it to succeed.
      So far, I'm glad they didn't go with Illumination. While they could probably handle something like a Wind Waker tone Zelda movie and make it "fun for audiences, meh for critics" like the Mario movie, I'd prefer Nintendo shopped around and let various other people try their IPs and see all their different spins on it.
      For Illumination, it made sense since they have a lot of big hits under their belt like Despicable Me. For this director though, he did... The Maze Runner? And an unreleased movie? Hope the best for him, of course, just would've expected Nintendo to invest those big bucks from the Mario movie into a big-name director if they really were trying to bring confidence to their live action movies after... last time. I'm sure we were all hoping for a Ghibli animated movie, but... sighs next time...
      For the tone, since it's live action, I guess we're getting something alone the lines of Twilight Princess or Breath of the Wild. Honestly either can work fine, but the serious and grim tone and more direct call to action in a Twilight Princess style story would better fit a big Hollywood movie, while the laid back and chill Breath of the Wild vibes, with action in the beginning and end of the movie, and Link messing around in the middle doing side quests, fits more in that theoretical Ghibli movie.

      1 vote
      1. [5]
        semsevfor
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        Would be cool seeing a montage of Link solving Shrine puzzles and powering up like a Rocky training montage. There are ways to get around the parts of the game that wouldn't translate well to a...

        Would be cool seeing a montage of Link solving Shrine puzzles and powering up like a Rocky training montage. There are ways to get around the parts of the game that wouldn't translate well to a film format.

        I think BOTW will probably be the focus because that's their new default and what they be pushing Zelda forward with. And it would make a decent film story, first ten minutes setting up the plot and situation, 20 minutes per each region/divine beast/race, 15 minute final battle climax and resolution, 1:45 runtime.

        Though I would personally prefer a more classic story like OoT, TP, or even the OG LoZ.

        2 votes
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          TheRtRevKaiser
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          There have actually been hints that Nintendo might be moving on from the BotW/TotK format for future titles. I don't know if they have a concept for what their next project will be, though, it's...

          I think BOTW will probably be the focus because that's their new default and what they be pushing Zelda forward with.

          There have actually been hints that Nintendo might be moving on from the BotW/TotK format for future titles. I don't know if they have a concept for what their next project will be, though, it's probably years out at this point.

          2 votes
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            EmperorPenguin
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            Can you find any links for that? Because what I read around the time of TotK's release was that this was the new formula, like how OOT was the new formula when that came out.

            Can you find any links for that? Because what I read around the time of TotK's release was that this was the new formula, like how OOT was the new formula when that came out.

            2 votes
            1. semsevfor
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              Yeah, this is all that I've heard basically since BotW came out. It won't be exactly the same, just like TP, WW, SS aren't exactly like OoT but they're still likely going to be the huge open world...

              Yeah, this is all that I've heard basically since BotW came out. It won't be exactly the same, just like TP, WW, SS aren't exactly like OoT but they're still likely going to be the huge open world with tons of things scattered everywhere.

              2 votes
            2. TheRtRevKaiser
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              I've seen a few more recent articles, mostly addressing the fact that there won't be any DLC for TotK that also make it seem like Nintendo is wanting to do something different for future titles,...

              I've seen a few more recent articles, mostly addressing the fact that there won't be any DLC for TotK that also make it seem like Nintendo is wanting to do something different for future titles, but there isn't any firm evidence one way or another. This NPR interview is one.

              1 vote
  7. TheRTV
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    I'm not excited any this. I love this series, so this has a lot of potential for disappointment for me. I'll keep an open mind til I watch the full movie though.

    I'm not excited any this. I love this series, so this has a lot of potential for disappointment for me. I'll keep an open mind til I watch the full movie though.

    4 votes
  8. adorac
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    I'd be excited for this, but with Avi Arad producing and the Maze Runner guy directing... my expectations are not high.

    I'd be excited for this, but with Avi Arad producing and the Maze Runner guy directing... my expectations are not high.

    4 votes
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    Mes
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    Obviously there's a lot to prove here. The last Nintendo live action film had Nintendo leave the industry for 30 years before trying again with Mario. With Nintendo being the main financer this is...

    Obviously there's a lot to prove here. The last Nintendo live action film had Nintendo leave the industry for 30 years before trying again with Mario. With Nintendo being the main financer this is definitely going to be Miyamoto's vision. The question is if that vision will resonate with fans of the series.

    I'm cautiously optimistic myself. I need to see more, but I really do want it to be good. Though I doubt we'll get any more information anytime soon.

    I do wonder if they'll adapt an existing game or write a new story for the film. What they choose as their base is gonna affect everything from casting to the atmosphere and lighting.

    4 votes
    1. [5]
      semsevfor
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      I really hope they lean into the heroic fanfare. So many movies and games lately are very sparing with their epic moments where the theme music swells and makes you feel badass. The Zelda theme is...

      I really hope they lean into the heroic fanfare. So many movies and games lately are very sparing with their epic moments where the theme music swells and makes you feel badass.

      The Zelda theme is perfect for this.

      Recently finished Skyward Sword and was very disappointed with the moment when Link finishes the Master Sword. It was a long arduous journey to collect all the parts and finally it's finished, the sword is complete, Link holds the Master Sword high and the music is just meh.

      That should've been a big loud Zelda theme booming moment, as Link holds the sword and then swings it around a few times before sheathing it on his back. But nah, so disappointing.

      I feel like these big epic moments are either not used or done wrong with the wrong music or something. In movies and games these days.

      5 votes
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        Mes
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        I agree, I think having a big hero moment with triumphant music is a must. Even in the darkest of Zelda games, there are still moments of heroism and even comedy. On that note, I hope all the main...

        I agree, I think having a big hero moment with triumphant music is a must. Even in the darkest of Zelda games, there are still moments of heroism and even comedy.

        On that note, I hope all the main music is pulled from the games. They can do new versions or even new songs inspired by the games, as long as that connection is there. The Mario movie had such awful choices in pop music that never should've made it into the final version, and I have no doubt that was a decision made by Illumination.

        2 votes
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          semsevfor
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          Oh 1000%, the soundtrack has to be an orchestral remake of the classic songs. Mario was atrocious for putting those pop songs in, it really took you out of the movie. Especially cause Mario has...

          Oh 1000%, the soundtrack has to be an orchestral remake of the classic songs.

          Mario was atrocious for putting those pop songs in, it really took you out of the movie. Especially cause Mario has sooo much history to pull from for orchestral versions of its soundtrack. Mario had the one epic big music moment with the power star, which was great for about ten seconds and then it devolved into something else. Should've been that epic star music pumping the whole fight, would've made it so much more epic.

          I better hear some Lost Woods, Zelda's Lullaby, and damn sure the main theme at the least. Other tracks definitely depend on the type of story they tell. You can't really use The Dark World if you don't have a dark world in the plot, similar with The Great Sea if there's no water/ocean scenes, etc etc. So much good music. Don't fuck this up Nintendo!

          3 votes
          1. [2]
            Clabsmodan
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            This was something that was (among other things) a huge miss for the Uncharted movie. Like, it's fiiiine as a pretty standard blockbuster treasure hunt action flick, but dammit, USE THE UNCHARTED...

            This was something that was (among other things) a huge miss for the Uncharted movie. Like, it's fiiiine as a pretty standard blockbuster treasure hunt action flick, but dammit, USE THE UNCHARTED THEME. They used it once, for like 3 seconds. There were so many moments where it would have fit so well, and they squandered those opportunities. So yes, they really should get some incredible score-work for Zelda; it'll go a long way to helping make a solid product.

            Related to that, have you ever heard Sam Dillard's Zelda Cinematica album? He's a composer that does cinematic scores derived from popular properties. His Zelda one (and honestly, all of them) is very good.

            1. semsevfor
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              I have listened to so so so many Zelda Orchestral adaptations that I may have, I couldn't say. The only one I remember by name was ZREO (Zelda ReOrchestrated). I'll check that one out though

              I have listened to so so so many Zelda Orchestral adaptations that I may have, I couldn't say. The only one I remember by name was ZREO (Zelda ReOrchestrated). I'll check that one out though

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    douchebag
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    Let me just briefly predict that this will turn into a huge disappointment for most people. Not because the movie is bad, but because of a mismatch of expectations. You can hire the best actors,...

    Let me just briefly predict that this will turn into a huge disappointment for most people. Not because the movie is bad, but because of a mismatch of expectations.

    You can hire the best actors, compose the best score and draft the best story, and expectations will still not be met.

    The Mario movie is a great example of it. People without many expectations loved it. Lifelong fans were disappointed.

    I wish whomever produces this movie good luck. I'll be watching without expectations and enjoying it regardless.

    3 votes
    1. xothist
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      Lifelong Mario fan chiming in to say I thought the movie was great.

      Lifelong Mario fan chiming in to say I thought the movie was great.

      4 votes
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      stu2b50
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      I really doubt they were. People had no expectations for the Mario Movie - Mario's cinematic track record is abysmal, and it's not like you expect thrilling narratives from Mario properties in...

      I really doubt they were. People had no expectations for the Mario Movie - Mario's cinematic track record is abysmal, and it's not like you expect thrilling narratives from Mario properties in general. Illumination making it didn't help, or the reactions to Chris Pratt as Mario.

      The reaction mirrored that - critics, who are fans of movies, not mario, found it a mid children's movie, mario fans had their expectations exceeded and loved the movie, giving it a much higher audience score than critic score.

      1 vote
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        thefilmslayer
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        Not hard to get above the bar movie-wise when the bar is laying flat on the ground.

        Not hard to get above the bar movie-wise when the bar is laying flat on the ground.

        1. douchebag
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          Unless you trip on the bar. — Hollywood

          Unless you trip on the bar.

          — Hollywood

  11. fyzzlefry
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    This is all going to come down to casting.

    This is all going to come down to casting.

    2 votes
  12. MetaMoss
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    Just like the Mario movie, my interest is primarily on seeing how Nintendo's vision will end up playing out. Since Zelda's portrayal of its characters and world has been much more diverse than...

    Just like the Mario movie, my interest is primarily on seeing how Nintendo's vision will end up playing out. Since Zelda's portrayal of its characters and world has been much more diverse than Mario's, there's a lot more possibilities on the direction this adaptation could take, and that's exciting to think about.

    2 votes
  13. SloMoMonday
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    I find this whole idea fascinating because of how different Zelda is to the rest of the Nintendo roster. Nintendo has consolidated and controlled the identity of all their properties and it feels...

    I find this whole idea fascinating because of how different Zelda is to the rest of the Nintendo roster.

    Nintendo has consolidated and controlled the identity of all their properties and it feels like everything that comes out of a spesific ip has a distinctive tone. Like with Mario: there's cart racing, haunted mansions, LSD wonderland, paper kraft and the movie. A ton of different themes and styles held together by a cute, light fairytale tone.

    But Zelda is a tonal roller-coaster. The most kid friendly choice would be the toon link adventures but Breath of the Wild has the most recognition currently. I'm also sure a lot of long time fans would love a darker tone like Majoras Mask or iconic stories like Link to the Past.

    So I'm curious what Nintendo sees as the most profitable identity for the Hyrule. I personally would love it interpreted a mature epic adventure like lord of the rings. Hyrule Warriors and Totk hints at the politics and grander conflicts of the world and I'd love to see that explored more.

    1 vote