What are the most iconic songs?
I was thinking about this during my run today. I have a playlist where I put songs that I consider to be the "most iconic" and I want help filling it out a bit. I'd also like help determining if some of these aren't iconic enough, but the main ones I'm asking about are literal theme songs, so that may give them some extra points.
Now, this is of course at least semi-subjective, but I have tried to not put songs that are just really great or that everybody knows or that nobody will be singing next summer.
There are certainly multiple ways to define "iconic." I'm really trying to stick to the songs where you don't have to explain how or why it's iconic. It just is, and "everybody" knows it. The way I see it, this could actually exclude some of the biggest songs of all time because yeah, they're popular, but they aren't an icon.
So, before I use any more awful, self-justifying logic, let's get into my list so far!
In the Air Tonight
Born in the USA
Roundball Rock
CBS March Madness Theme
Monday Night Football Theme
Bridge Over Troubled Waters
Hallelujah by Jeff Buckley
Hey Jude
American Pie
Some songs from Grease because I'm sure at least one qualifies, but I grew up hating it because my sister loved it so I don't know which one(s) to include (or exclude, rather)
I can obviously think of a lot of other obviously extremely iconic songs but I've only added songs when I happened to listen to them. So what are Tildes' thoughts?
If only because it gets played at every highschool sporting event at some point:
Survivor - Eye of the Tiger
What makes a song iconic? Is it something that the most people can recognize a few seconds in?
If you’re asking me to make a list:
Granted, this was a lot of my taste in music growing up and my biases are my own, lots of arena rock on your list, so maybe our tastes line up? And I think You’re the One that I Want has to be your pull from Grease, since that’s your showstopper and it’s the one everyone remembers. (Apologies to Summer Nights.)
That's what I was thinking. I had those two on there after fairly easily ruling out We Go Together. I had a feeling Summer Nights was more just popular, whereas We Go Together was the all-time musical icon.
If Youtube number of plays are our canonical measure of iconosity, You're the One that I Want is the winner. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLqv56AZwzyGEmMraAsm0XF8PSy_Bvoy7y
Unfortunately by that logic, you're going to have to add the Baby Shark dance to your playlist.
EDIT: Youtube has a playlist for all music videos that have crossed a billion views. Are all of these songs iconic? https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLbpi6ZahtOH4OmcA-BD2hn0L082oLvvgV
On the serious end: Bohemian Rhapsody by Queen.
On the less serious but still absolutely iconic for all the wrong reasons end: Never Gonna Give You Up by Rick Astley.
Darude - sandstorm
The Friends intro song
Love and marriage... But that might not be that big for under 25s, lol
I've gone ahead and added Darude - Sandstorm. I'll need to think more on the others, but I think they're solid picks. I do think I'll Be There for You definitely benefits from the theme song "points bump" and is instantly recognizable as meaning Friends. It's also gained more worldwide popularity in the streaming era, which is probably a good thing for a list with such a vague non-region-specific name.
But I just don't like the show.
Love and Marriage on the other hand...is that even in Sinatra's top five (or more) most iconic songs? That doesn't mean it's not a candidate, just that there are a lot of others I may need to include.
I'd say "My Way" or "That's Life" are bigger Sinatra hits, honestly, but with how many of the 'Crooner' songs are covers or performed by multiple different artists I wouldn't begrudge anyone for not being able to pick them out of a lineup.
Interesting that I don't know the name and don't recognize the music of "That's Life," but it's got more streams on Spotify than several of his songs that I would think of as candidates for this list.
I'll be honest, I didn't know Live and Marriage was a Sinatra song. But the instant I hear the opening notes I can see the opening of the show in my head, lol, and it was always on during my teens
Money for Nothing - Dire Straits. Has one of the most iconic opening/main riffs.
Pachelbel's Canon is also extremely iconic. Most people will recognize it and it's chord progressions have been the base of many popular songs over the last 5 decades.
Also Walk of Life, which apparently is iconic enough to fit with the ending of any movie
"We Will Rock You" by Queen. Stomp stomp clap is all it takes. I'm also tempted to nominate "I’ll Make a Man Out of You" from Mulan, but that may be too niche
Don't worry, I also have a playlist called "Fuck you these should be on the Most Iconic playlist."
I’d have to add:
Jolene by Dolly Parton
Sweet Caroline - Neil Diamond
Shook Ones, Part II - Mobb Deep
Respect - Aretha Franklin
I Will Survive - Gloria Gaynor
All I Want for Christmas is You - Various versions
I'm very heartened to see a mention of Shook Ones, but I have a hunch more people will think "oh isn't that the beat from 8 Mile?" than recognizing the song itself 😕
Probably would be hard-pressed to find a black American who doesn't know this song. But then again, for a song to be iconic, it may have to cross cultural and geographic barriers more than that one has.
I'm also a white guy, so what do I know? I can only really say that I've had a diverse upbringing.
Trust me, I get you. I had a convo a while back with someone who was trying to justify an online poll that Eminem's Lose Yourself is the #1 hip-hop song of all time. I'd say that it definitely would qualify here as iconic to the broader cultural mainstream, crossing those barriers, but there are a bunch of songs more impactful within hip-hop which should rank higher, even if they didn't reach beyond the culture.
That's the best part of this: in the end, I get to be the one to choose what's iconic! But I'm taking it seriously and not just choosing songs that I immediately recognize, think are great, etc. They have to be big to the greater world. I guess I'm going for how iconic to how many people. So maybe I'll remove the March Madness theme (I added it in March, sue me lol) but I would think to over 150 million Americans, the MNF theme is immediately recognizable as at least "the football music," so I don't anticipate removing that.
As for Shook Ones, I'm clearly not an expert, but I think I know more classic rap than most people around me and I don't know it. I'm sure it's very well known by some portion of Americans, but is it one of the most iconic songs? Listening to it, it certainly doesn't sound like something that would be on the same level as most of what I have on the list so far.
Point taken.
I included it on this list mainly because it's referenced everywhere. Once you know it, you can't stop noticing how often it's referenced. They even reference it in Hamilton, which threw me for a loop.
The beat is sampled all the time, 8 mile references it, and tons of rap songs over the years have included variations on the lyrics.
But again, I can see the difference between Shook Ones and the rest of my list. Influential, perhaps not iconic?
Perhaps NWA's fuck the police? Or Lose Yourself by Eminem? Hip hop seems to be a lot more transient and subject to current trends, so perhaps iconic hip hop would be harder to find than other genres where the style stands the test of time a bit more.
The main thing I noticed that I recognized from elsewhere other than the title was "you minor; we major." The beat didn't seem "special" to me, but I can definitely see why it would be good for sampling.
I think "Lose Yourself" would certainly be the most iconic. Rap feels full of songs that are influential moreso than "iconic." I'm sure part of that is the sampling culture—when I try to think of other iconic songs, a lot of songs that immediately pop into my head not only sample (or interpolate) other songs, but it's the sample itself that I think of.
I think a lot of the songs with a sound that would have strong potential to become iconic are from """underground""" acts (think groups like Wu-Tang—groups with massive popularity that don't have as much crossover appeal as Eminem, Drake, Kanye, etc), so everyone knows about them but they don't actually reach that "Most Iconic" level. Although I think a less...mentally ill Kanye would have some real potential to approach the level of enduring popularity of "Lose Yourself."
I'm realizing I technically may need to add the Entry of the Gladiators😮👀
These are the most iconic ones from my exercise playlist. They also approximately match the average BPM of your list, near as I can tell.
Here's some I haven't seen mentioned in the thread so far:
I came here to specifically post this one. If you've ever been to Octoberfest, it's clear it's a global banger!!!
Free Bird by Lynyrd Skynyrd
Piano Man by Billy Joel
Gangsta's Paradise by Coolio
Welcome to the Black Parade by My Chemical Romance
In The End by Linkin Park
All completely subjective but here's a few extra:
Elvis Presley - Hound Dog
Chuck Berry - Johnny B Goode
Aretha Franklin - Respect
The Doors - Break on Through
Jimi Hendrix - All Along the Watchtower
Lynyrd Skynyrd - Sweet Home Alabama
Stevie Wonder - Superstition
Motorhead - Ace of Spades
Tears for Fears - Everybody Wants to Rule the World
Simple Minds - Don't You (Forget About Me)
Nirvana - Smells Like Teen Spirit
Another good source of inspiration may be the ubiquitous trend of using sad covers of iconic songs in modern movie trailers.
Edit: corrected song title
I'm surprised I had to look so far to find "Johnny B Goode." If any rock 'n' roll song is iconic, it's that one. It was the only rock song etched into the Voyager Golden Records, the time capsules launched into deep space to represent earth and human culture to extraterrestrials. It might as well be the holotype for rock 'n' roll songs.
Edit: while I'm thinking of it, the Tears for Fears song is called "Everybody Wants to Rule the World." I mention it in the extremely unlikely event that some young pup who doesn't know the tune stumbles across this thread and wants to seek these artifacts of culture out.
D'oh! Had a brain fart on Tears for Fears ha, thanks for pointing it out!
No worries! The song is old enough to run for president. We're lucky we can remember the language it was written in. Sanskrit, wasn't it?
I probably would've gone with "Mad World" myself, FWIW, though that didn't reach its height of cachet until that cover they put in Donnie Darko, I think. Not as iconic for its time, after consideration.
Clair de Lune, by Claude Debussy, strikes me as a very iconic song that lots of people will recognize from numerous films, TV shows, etc. It reallly feels like it is ingrained in the collective psyche at this point. It is also very popular in the context of classical music.
A few additions I think are worthy of a nomination:
Nothing Compares 2U - Sinéad O'Connor
Final countdown - Europe
All by myself - Céline Dion
Imperial march - ??? (Not sure if it should count if or if it's discualified for not being a song by itself, but certainly iconic)
Gangsta's Paradise - Coolio
Let's add some classical bangers!
Psy - Gangnam Style
N'Sync - Bye Bye Bye
Backstreet Boys - I Want It That Way
Notorious BIG - Hypnotize
2pac - California Love
Sublime - Santaria
Zombie Nation - Kernkraft 400
Swedish House Mafia - One
The old Mortal Kombat Theme Song
Since you didn't say iconic Rock songs, I'm going to add
Hypnotize - Notorious BIG
1st of that Month - Bone Thugs N Harmony
Nuthin' but a G' thang - Dr. Dre and Snoop Dogg
It was a good day - Ice Cube
The first few notes of any of these songs will perk my ears right up anytime.
Seems like there's not much coverage of soul, blues, Motown, or reggae yet. I've selected for recognizability.
Sam Cooke - A Change is Gonna Come
B.B. King - The Thrill is Gone
Otis Redding - Sittin' On the Dock of the Bay
Bob Marley and the Wailers - Redemption Song, I Shot the Sherriff (pretty much the whole catalog is "iconic" by now)
Johnny Nash - I Can See Clearly Now
Jimmy Cliff - The Harder They Come
Johnny Cash - Folsom Prison Blues
Nina Simone - Sinnerman
Aretha Franklin - Chain of Fools
Marvin Gaye - I Heard It Through the Grapevine and What's Goin' On?
Percy Sledge - When a Man Loves a Woman
Barrett Strong - Money (That's What I Want)
John Lee Hooker - Boom Boom
Robert Johnson - Cross Road Blues
Janis Joplin - Piece of My Heart
Bill Withers - Lean On Me
Ann Peebles - I Can't Stand the Rain
Barry White - Never Gonna Give You Up ***ruined forever by Rick Astley...
The Staples Singers - If You're Ready (Come Go With Me), I'll Take You There
Gloria Jones - Tainted Love ***not ruined by Soft Cell
Solomon Burke - Everybody Needs Somebody To Love
The Commodores - Brick House
Patti LaBelle - Lady Marmalade
Songs with iconic intros not already mentioned:
The White Stripes - Seven Nation Army
Bruce Springsteen - Born to Run
The Rolling Stones - Time Is On My Side
Diana Ross - I'm Coming Out
Prince - Let's Go Crazy
The Temptations - Papa Was A Rolling Stone
Queen - Bohemian Rhapsody
The Eagles - Hotel California
The Clash - London Calling
Pink Floyd - Money
Queen & David Bowie - Under Pressure
The Breeders - Cannonball
Talking Heads - Psycho Killer
Violent Femmes - Blister in the Sun
Miscellaneous:
Green Day - American Idiot, Welcome to Paradise
Patti Smith - Gloria
The Ramones - I Wanna Be Sedated
Lou Reed - Walk on the Wild Side, Sweet Jane
Leonard Cohen - Hallelujah, Everybody Knows
Iggy Pop - Lust for Life
David Bowie - Space Oddity
Amy Winehouse - Rehab
Some of these songs aren't my favorite, but I tried to mention some that fit into your criteria, at least as best as I understood it.
Side note: I just read "If nothing is curated, how do we find things anymore?". Maybe "iconic" means "still popular and recognizable after many years", but it seems like there are fewer iconic songs from the 21st Century. Does fragmentation and lack of discoverability mean that it's harder for a particular piece of music to become a memorable part of the general culture?
YMCA
Cupid Shuffle
Cotton Eye Joe
2 Unlimited - Get Ready
Etta James - At Last
I never want to hear this song again.
Wow, so many great songs already mentioned! You are really good, all of you!
I'd like to add a few too:
It's tough to get more iconic than these two from the late, great Ennio Morricone:
The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly (Main Theme)
The Ecstasy of Gold
I was recently thinking about the decline of instrumental music as popular music. I don't know what it would take to see some kind of resurgence of music without lyrics at the top of the charts... and hopefully actual musicality along with it. As much as I'm a fan of EDM and various other producer-centric genres, the pop music soundscape is undeniably poorer for the dearth of harmonies, melodies (musical rather than vocal), and bands.
Also, what will qualify as iconic will definitely depend on the generation. Baauer's Harlem Shake was the last Billboard number one without lyrics, in 2013. I wouldn't stretch to call it iconic but my younger relatives would probably disagree.
Aerosmith - Sweet Emotion
Metallica - Enter Sandman
Alice In Chains - Man in the Box
Jamiroquai - Virtual Insanity
Verve - Bitter Sweet Symphony
Foo Fighters - Everlong
Pearl Jam - Jeremy
Bush - Glycerene
Blind Melon - No Rain
Soundgarden - Black Hole Sun
Beck - Loser
Live - Lightning Crashes
Oasis - Wonderwall
Goo Goo Dolls - Iris
Rage Against the Machine - Bulls On Parade
Beastie Boys - Sabotage
Spin Doctors - Two Princes
Alannis Morrisette - You Oughta Know
Blue - Song 2
Collective Soul - Shine
Chemical Brothers - Block Rockin' Beats
Presidents of the United States of America - Peaches
Lenny Kravitz - Fly Away
Macklemore - Thirft Shopt
Lorde - Royals
So hard to narrow this down.
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