I wondered how Rockstar would find a new slice of Americana to parody. Modern day Florida is absolutely perfect for the series. The gangs, the (in my opinion) gaudy hip hop culture, the nursing...
I wondered how Rockstar would find a new slice of Americana to parody.
Modern day Florida is absolutely perfect for the series. The gangs, the (in my opinion) gaudy hip hop culture, the nursing homes and retirement communities, the gators, the trailer parks built on swampland, rednecks and religion, the populism and love for conservative politicians, natural disasters, private rehabs that fleece the most vulnerable, and so much more.
This game is going to be the most American thing ever made.
I always wondered if this series' satirical views of parts of the U.S. were at all accurate, being British, so I'm happy to hear that they've clearly done some good research!
I always wondered if this series' satirical views of parts of the U.S. were at all accurate, being British, so I'm happy to hear that they've clearly done some good research!
If you've ever been to the non-Disney parts of Florida, you'll understand. Florida, Texas, California, and New York are like the four corners of American culture. Florida is by far the most...
If you've ever been to the non-Disney parts of Florida, you'll understand.
Florida, Texas, California, and New York are like the four corners of American culture. Florida is by far the most absurd.
I can't really do it justice, but here is the best way I can think to describe it.
Drive down a busy road in Florida and you'll likely pass by the following things REPEATEDLY (like dozens or hundreds of times over the course of an hour):
A mix of pristine cars from the last 30+ years - preserved by the weather and lack of road salt.
Pawn shops built across from pawn shops that are next door to bigger pawn shops. Usually with names like The Diamond Lounge or Million Dollar Pawn.
The gaudiest, most pimped out cars you've seen in your life.
Trailer parks built on swampland. The kind where you have to be careful your dog doesn't get eaten by gators.
Speaking of gators, you'll see them lounging by the side of the road anywhere there's a disgusting green pond, creek, or river.
Old people in expensive cars driving with one foot on the brake and one on the gas. They go way under the speed limit and piss off the young people who go way over the speed limit.
Street races at night.
Dirtbikes being used legally or illegally on roads.
No helmets on motorcycles because there are no helmets laws.
GIANT American flags and pro-Trump displays. You'll also see some nasty, vulgar stuff against Biden or Clinton pretty frequently.
Disney shit.
Swamp people and rednecks doing redneck stuff like having powered refrigerators sitting in the back of their pickup while they're going 70 down a highway. Just wild stuff.
Pools. Palm trees and beaches. Obviously.
License plates from literally everywhere in the country. As an American, that's something you don't usually see since it's such a big country and driving even to the state next door takes many hours.
Golf carts nowhere near a golf course. Hundreds of them. People use them to drive around their neighborhood and they usually decorate them.
Retirement communities.
Guns everywhere. Open carry is common.
You'll hear Jimmy Buffett. But usually just that one song.
I could probably list a lot more. But yeah, that's really how Florida is. To be fair, there are also lots of wealthy areas and beautiful cities with very vibrant cultures. The night life is also very cool.
Edit: forgot to mention heroin and meth use.
I will also add that Florida has some of the most beautiful buildings and landscapes directly next to some of the ugliest urban sprawl in the country. Everything looks like an outlet mall. Mattress stores, law firms, churches, and liquor stores crammed into tiny plazas mile after mile. There are places where you just drive through massive stretches of single story commercial buildings. God it's so ugly.
As a former Florida resident, who has lived in Pompano Beach, Ft Lauderdale, Boca Raton, and downtown Miami, I can vouch for all that, and even more absurdities beyond. E.g. Where I originally...
As a former Florida resident, who has lived in Pompano Beach, Ft Lauderdale, Boca Raton, and downtown Miami, I can vouch for all that, and even more absurdities beyond.
E.g. Where I originally lived in Pompano had a huge pond in the middle of the apartment complex that usually had a few gators in it, which was right next to the complex's community pool... so a gator managing to get into the pool area and shutting it down until animal control could arrive to remove it was ridiculously common. And gators even somehow getting into totally fenced/walled off residential pools wasn't all that uncommon either. They're tenacious and clever little bastards.
And speaking of gators, and your mention of dogs getting eaten by them, a dog actually did go missing from that Pompano apartment complex while I was living there, and I don't think it takes a genius to figure out what likely happened to it. So it's not just trailer parks where that happens.
And I also once woke up to find my car resting on milk crates. As a naive Canadian kid, I thought that was just an urban myth or TV trope. But nope. Turns out thieves in Florida can disable your car alarm, tear it out of your car, smash your car's windows, steal your stereo, subwoofer, tires and rims, and will just leave the entire vehicle resting on milk crates afterwards... without anyone noticing (or caring), despite it having been parked in a brightly lit car park.
And the gated community where my parents lived in Boca would, every morning, have a literal dump truck filled to the brim with workers, packed in there like sardines, drive in and drop them off to do all the gardening, landscaping, and maintenance work. And at the end of the day they would all pile back into the dump truck, now full of garbage and trimmings, and head off back home.
And every Home Depot in Florida also usually has a line of (presumably undocumented) workers waiting in front of them. And people will just drive up to them in their pickup trucks, scream in Spanish from their window how many workers they need, have that many workers pile into the back of the truck, and then drive off to take them to some random job. I thought that was also a TV trope... but nope, turns out it's not.
And I was also going to point out the lack of methheads, and the insane shit they often get up to, in your comment, but I see that you edited it to include giving the meth problem a mention now. ;)
Florida is fucking nuts.
p.s. If you're ever walking around in Florida and suddenly get overwhelmed by the smell of semen mixed with a hint of vomit and/or rotting fish... don't worry, it's probably just the callery pear trees in bloom... probably. :P
This whole comment could be talking about south Alabama too, which is a lot like north Florida, just mostly poorer. And God, those Bradford Pear trees are everywhere in the south (maybe all over...
This whole comment could be talking about south Alabama too, which is a lot like north Florida, just mostly poorer.
And God, those Bradford Pear trees are everywhere in the south (maybe all over the US, I'm not sure) and they stink like absolute hell.
Drove a U-Haul truck down a road one time and forgot it was the street where all the day laborers usually wait. I felt bad because half of them got up to walk towards my truck and I just kept driving.
workers waiting in front of them.
Drove a U-Haul truck down a road one time and forgot it was the street where all the day laborers usually wait. I felt bad because half of them got up to walk towards my truck and I just kept driving.
"California" culture as we think of it is largely souther California. Northern California starts to turn into a continuum with the Pacific NorthWest (they would dispute this, but they must search...
Florida, Texas, California, and New York are like the four corners of American culture. Florida is by far the most absurd.
"California" culture as we think of it is largely souther California. Northern California starts to turn into a continuum with the Pacific NorthWest (they would dispute this, but they must search their feelings. They know it to be true).
Then you've got the Midwest which is it's own separate thing, though the consolidation of all media markets into a gruel of ClearChannel radio and cable news has started to smudge it all up.
I lived in FL for my entire life until the past few months, and this is pretty accurate for most of the state. The fact that GTA VI is set there is absurd, but also really drives home why I took...
I lived in FL for my entire life until the past few months, and this is pretty accurate for most of the state. The fact that GTA VI is set there is absurd, but also really drives home why I took my family and escaped.
True, and I loved Vice City, but current day Florida is something else. 0/10, do not recommend IRL, but could be a fun place for many to cause virtual mayhem.
True, and I loved Vice City, but current day Florida is something else. 0/10, do not recommend IRL, but could be a fun place for many to cause virtual mayhem.
You're not wrong. I've spent plenty of time in Florida already and do not need to spend anymore. A virtual visit is the best the Sunshine State is going to get out of me - if Rockstar sees fit to...
You're not wrong. I've spent plenty of time in Florida already and do not need to spend anymore.
A virtual visit is the best the Sunshine State is going to get out of me - if Rockstar sees fit to release a PC version. Granted, they waited so long on GTAV that I got it five years after release when a friend gifted it to me.
I just left, so I don't feel like I need a refresher any time soon. I can wait for a PC release and also wait and see if Rockstar decides to make this a mostly online money milking machine like V was.
I just left, so I don't feel like I need a refresher any time soon. I can wait for a PC release and also wait and see if Rockstar decides to make this a mostly online money milking machine like V was.
I don't expect the money printer to be turned off, I just didn't feel like the actual main game of V was substantial enough since I have no interest in the online component.
I don't expect the money printer to be turned off, I just didn't feel like the actual main game of V was substantial enough since I have no interest in the online component.
Granted, I haven't played V since it was new (on the PS3, so we're talking ancient history) but I remember being totally satisfied with the single-player game. Between the three main characters I...
Granted, I haven't played V since it was new (on the PS3, so we're talking ancient history) but I remember being totally satisfied with the single-player game. Between the three main characters I thought there was a ton of variety and it took a good long time to get through it all. I'm always a little confused when I read this opinion online, it feels like folks aren't remembering properly, or they're judging the game by newer standards, or maybe their feelings toward the offline game are overshadowed by sour grapes for GTAO?
Was going to comment about GTA: Vice City already being set in Miami, so this has been done before. After goolging, it reads like Vice City is going to be included in the GTA6 map. That's fun!...
Was going to comment about GTA: Vice City already being set in Miami, so this has been done before. After goolging, it reads like Vice City is going to be included in the GTA6 map. That's fun! Wonder if it'll be same layout as og vice city
It would be very notable if it was. GTA4 and GTA5's layouts were very different than the original cities. Even Grove St. was almost completely different in GTA5, it really seems like there is has...
It would be very notable if it was. GTA4 and GTA5's layouts were very different than the original cities. Even Grove St. was almost completely different in GTA5, it really seems like there is has never been much intention to make callbacks to previous games.
Too much money not to eventually put it out on PC. Until then, I'll keep playing all the old games I missed. Though, I didn't really enjoy GTA V anyway, but maybe I should try it again. Liked...
Too much money not to eventually put it out on PC. Until then, I'll keep playing all the old games I missed.
Though, I didn't really enjoy GTA V anyway, but maybe I should try it again. Liked Online early on, but the characters in V were so over the top and irritating, I couldn't be bothered.
That looks legitimately nuts, I'm astounded at the "eh, doesn't look that great" comments I've read online. The graphics combined with the sheer density of stuff packed into each frame are insane....
That looks legitimately nuts, I'm astounded at the "eh, doesn't look that great" comments I've read online.
The graphics combined with the sheer density of stuff packed into each frame are insane.
In my mind there are only two ways they can fuck this up and not make it the absolutely uncontested GOTY and candidate for best game ever: One is if it runs like crap on its intended hardware or the density is severely degraded. The other is if 9/10 things you see are not things you can do. If I see a boat I expect to be able to commandeer that boat. If I see a gator in a corner shop I expect to be able to fight off gators in corner shops. If it's a vehicle I should be able to drive it, if it's a cool location I expect to be able to visit it, if an NPC is doing it in a cut-scene I expect to be able to do it (referring to activities not random animations).
I don't know what people expect from graphics nowadays, but at some point, you reach a plateau in which an increase in photorealism doesn't necessarily make a game better. You must also consider...
I don't know what people expect from graphics nowadays, but at some point, you reach a plateau in which an increase in photorealism doesn't necessarily make a game better. You must also consider the whole visual style and artistic direction. The graphics in the trailer are perfectly fine and in tone with the theme.
I know, it just feels like sometimes people are comparing game engine capabilities in some theoretical vacuum. As if the engine that could render a person with a few more polygons and slightly...
I know, it just feels like sometimes people are comparing game engine capabilities in some theoretical vacuum. As if the engine that could render a person with a few more polygons and slightly better textures in a blank background would be "better" than the engine that could do a slightly worse job but fill an entire city with NPCs like that.
What's the point if you're going to ignore what the graphics bring to the game, if you don't care about making the game world feel alive and interesting?
The graphics in the trailer in the context of just how many things are going on in each shot are amazing.
If there's anything GTA is known for it's that you usually can do those things. What you see is what you get and you're mostly free to go where you please. I think the one way to fuck this up is...
The other is if 9/10 things you see are not things you can do.
If there's anything GTA is known for it's that you usually can do those things. What you see is what you get and you're mostly free to go where you please.
I think the one way to fuck this up is to mess up the singleplayer to the point of irrelevancy while still using the spaghetti netcode they're using for multiplayer now. How many minutes I spent waiting for the game to load me into an online lobby rivals the amount of time actually played online.
First glimpse looks incredible so far! It's going to be a very long wait till 2025. Hopefully they take their time perfecting everything and don't rush the release. I just hope it releases on PC...
First glimpse looks incredible so far! It's going to be a very long wait till 2025. Hopefully they take their time perfecting everything and don't rush the release. I just hope it releases on PC on the same day as consoles.
It's going to be hard not to get hyped up too much too early on.
I'm reaaaaaalllly hoping for a PC same day release. I didn't even finish RDR2 because I played half of it on PS4 and I'm not a huge fan of the controls on controller. And then I didn't buy it on...
I'm reaaaaaalllly hoping for a PC same day release. I didn't even finish RDR2 because I played half of it on PS4 and I'm not a huge fan of the controls on controller. And then I didn't buy it on PC out of principle.
Looks great. I'm just happy it's not set in NYC. Nothing against the city, but the last time Rockstar did NYC they forgot to add the colors. A triple-A with vibrant colors is always something to...
Looks great.
I'm just happy it's not set in NYC. Nothing against the city, but the last time Rockstar did NYC they forgot to add the colors.
A triple-A with vibrant colors is always something to celebrate.
i think that had more to do with the time at which it released than the setting. aggressive digital color grading was all the rage in film, television, and even video games back then.
the last time Rockstar did NYC they forgot to add the colors.
i think that had more to do with the time at which it released than the setting. aggressive digital color grading was all the rage in film, television, and even video games back then.
Although many reviewers mentioned how sad NYC looks in GTA IV, I can't readily find an analysis of the color in that game. However, the first random review that I played had this image, which...
Although many reviewers mentioned how sad NYC looks in GTA IV, I can't readily find an analysis of the color in that game. However, the first random review that I played had this image, which completely reflects my experiences with it. I have played many games from that era. Mirror's Edge, Devil May Cry 4, Far Cry 2, and World of Warcraft: Wrath of the Lich King were also released in 2008. This is not just a technological limitation. They decided to make the game grey.
That's what I'm saying, it was a very popular aesthetic choice in 2008. More colorful games like Mirrors Edge were the exception. Borderlands is a good example if you want to see where the trend...
This is, to me, a conscious artistic choice. Not a technological limitation. They decided to make the game grey.
That's what I'm saying, it was a very popular aesthetic choice in 2008. More colorful games like Mirrors Edge were the exception. Borderlands is a good example if you want to see where the trend shifted. The first game was very grey in 2009, and by the sequel in 2012 they flipped it around with very saturated colors.
Oh, okay. I thought you meant they couldn't add more colors for some reason. But even compared to the average game in 2008 or today, they went way further in this trend, to the point that it must...
Oh, okay. I thought you meant they couldn't add more colors for some reason. But even compared to the average game in 2008 or today, they went way further in this trend, to the point that it must be one of the greyest games I have ever played. GTA IV stands out even amongst its colorless peers.
I bet there's some mod to remove the grey filter. Edit: of course there is.
The graphics look insane. I can't really say that I resonate with the social media / TikTok overtones though. I remember the original GTA V trailers, especially the Michael/Franklin/Trevor ones....
The graphics look insane. I can't really say that I resonate with the social media / TikTok overtones though. I remember the original GTA V trailers, especially the Michael/Franklin/Trevor ones. They were giving me goosebumps, while this one didn't do much for me. But I will definitely be playing it on release, provided it won't release as a buggy mess. I doubt it, but I also doubted that other games would release in a broken state. I guess we'll see.
I anticipate this will actually be a core theme of the game. I believe every major Rockstar game has had a running theme of the protagonist struggling to adjust to the modern world in some way,...
Exemplary
I can't really say that I resonate with the social media / TikTok overtones though.
I anticipate this will actually be a core theme of the game. I believe every major Rockstar game has had a running theme of the protagonist struggling to adjust to the modern world in some way, from Tommy Vercetti trying to figure out the world after years in prison to Arthur Morgan's existential battle with the waning of the West. I remember a big part of Michael's story in GTAV was simply trying to figure out his kids' interests and the world around him after isolating himself for so long.
So I anticipate that social media and technology (which they've been emulating more and more with each GTA release) will be a bigger part but it will be from the lens of satirizing and struggling with it rather than just trying to make people do TikTok within the game.
I hope anyway, that would be a nightmare if it's played straight.
Since it first went 3D, GTA always satirizes the worst aspects of American culture. Given that this game takes place in current times, how could it not talk about social media and TikTok?
I can't really say that I resonate with the social media / TikTok overtones though
Since it first went 3D, GTA always satirizes the worst aspects of American culture. Given that this game takes place in current times, how could it not talk about social media and TikTok?
The trailer looks good, but I think I've had my fill of open world games at this point, and GTA in particular. I've also lost what little patience I had with rockstar.
The trailer looks good, but I think I've had my fill of open world games at this point, and GTA in particular. I've also lost what little patience I had with rockstar.
I'm still waiting for GTAV DLC. Online was okay but they should have put some effort back into supporting the reason I picked up GTAV in the first place. Then all the other shenanigans they've...
I'm still waiting for GTAV DLC. Online was okay but they should have put some effort back into supporting the reason I picked up GTAV in the first place. Then all the other shenanigans they've pulled, sending it DMCA notices for projects which don't actually infringe on their IP. While it was the parent company responsible for sending those notices, I have little reason to support R*.
Looks pretty good, though graphics aren't really what I play GTA for. I hope they've made some big strides in the game mechanics, they'll need big progress to separate it from V
Looks pretty good, though graphics aren't really what I play GTA for. I hope they've made some big strides in the game mechanics, they'll need big progress to separate it from V
IMO the game feel of GTA5 was pretty weak, even in 2013, at least the on-foot controls. I hope that running around, aiming and shooting, etc all feel a lot better.
IMO the game feel of GTA5 was pretty weak, even in 2013, at least the on-foot controls. I hope that running around, aiming and shooting, etc all feel a lot better.
I hope that RDR2's success rubs off a bit in terms of story. I "enjoyed" 80% of GTA5's story, but I'm hoping they straddle the gonzo line without falling into self-parody. I enjoyed running over...
I hope that RDR2's success rubs off a bit in terms of story. I "enjoyed" 80% of GTA5's story, but I'm hoping they straddle the gonzo line without falling into self-parody. I enjoyed running over lines of monks to get the score bonus back in the day, but I'm interested in some additional nuance at this point.
RDR2 was the first Rockstar game I bought. It was really disappointing as an open-world game goes. There’s a Jacob Geller video on the game that covers this well. But in short: the game’s meant to...
RDR2 was the first Rockstar game I bought. It was really disappointing as an open-world game goes. There’s a Jacob Geller video on the game that covers this well. But in short: the game’s meant to be enjoyed in a specific way. If you deviate even a little bit you crash into a brick wall.
If GTA6 is different I’d love to give them my money.
How is RDR2 supposed to be enjoyed? I personally found a headcanon diversion from the plot where Arthur leaves and is happy with his lady love and stopped playing before the end, but I never found...
How is RDR2 supposed to be enjoyed? I personally found a headcanon diversion from the plot where Arthur leaves and is happy with his lady love and stopped playing before the end, but I never found a way to play where I felt like I was being railroaded, and I left the story behind for large swaths of my time with the game. Just wandered and gathered and hunted and saved random people on the road.
Story missions is what they were referring to. RDR2 is notorious for the clash between the brilliant open world & the story missions where if you step outside the intended path you face a "mission...
Story missions is what they were referring to. RDR2 is notorious for the clash between the brilliant open world & the story missions where if you step outside the intended path you face a "mission failed" screen.
So it's no surprise that this wasn't your experience, since you didn't really focus on the story missions.
Yeah. The main story was fairly constrictive, in that you were following the story of a given man, without any of the choices we've come to expect in an RPG. We may get to choose who to shoot...
Yeah. The main story was fairly constrictive, in that you were following the story of a given man, without any of the choices we've come to expect in an RPG. We may get to choose who to shoot first, but if shooting is on the menu there's no sending it back and asking for a stealth section or choosing to leave some plum fool in jail.
I can accept this type of restriction, as long as the story is worth telling. The restriction I have in mind is gameplay related. I remember trying to flank some enemies once, and getting a...
I can accept this type of restriction, as long as the story is worth telling. The restriction I have in mind is gameplay related. I remember trying to flank some enemies once, and getting a mission failed screen, because the game wanted me to follow a precise, invisible link of checkpoints, and not deviate from them. That happens many times and it pulls away any creativity/freedom you might have when fulfilling your objective. This is in stark contrast with the open world design.
Interesting. I must have been doing exactly what the game wanted by just running straight through while shooting anything that moved, because I never had that experience.
Interesting. I must have been doing exactly what the game wanted by just running straight through while shooting anything that moved, because I never had that experience.
There were some missions where I received the Mission Failed screen because I went to loot the enemies I had just killed for some ammo. The bodies, and where we fought, were somehow marked out of...
There were some missions where I received the Mission Failed screen because I went to loot the enemies I had just killed for some ammo. The bodies, and where we fought, were somehow marked out of the mission zone when the next stage activated.
If you're interested in more details, I went into a lot of detail in my take on the game a couple of years ago. Essentially despite how amazing so much of the game was, there really did feel like a "proper way" to play it and it's what created the most friction between player and game. I think a lot of people felt it contemporaneously but it's somewhat forgotten as the game has faded into memory for many.
I echo this opinion a lot. People think it's funny, but some of my favorite experiences with GTA have been with the story. IV is my favorite because it had that more grounded and darker story. It...
I echo this opinion a lot. People think it's funny, but some of my favorite experiences with GTA have been with the story. IV is my favorite because it had that more grounded and darker story. It was like a serious world that funny things could happen in, which made the funny things a little funnier imo.
Genuinely considering buying a PS5 (or whatever bundle is available) at the time to play this game, given that it isn’t releasing same day PC. My only hope is that one of the consoles allow mouse...
Genuinely considering buying a PS5 (or whatever bundle is available) at the time to play this game, given that it isn’t releasing same day PC. My only hope is that one of the consoles allow mouse and keyboard (or gyro, at the least!) for this game.
a) I genuinely like the GTA single player games b) Man, it's been 10 years since the last GTA, I really want to see this one, especially if I have to wait another 2 years for it to come out on PC....
a) I genuinely like the GTA single player games
b) Man, it's been 10 years since the last GTA, I really want to see this one, especially if I have to wait another 2 years for it to come out on PC.
c) Don't want to get spoiled, as much as possible.
d) I have the disposable income to make it work.
It's really d) that does the heavy lifting for everything else. If I was not in the position to consider it, I could absolutely tolerate waiting for the inevitable PC release.
It's hard not to be caught up in the hype, but honestly I barely played GTA5 and probably won't buy GTA6 on release. Looks fun, but I'll be more interested when they show what's new in terms of...
It's hard not to be caught up in the hype, but honestly I barely played GTA5 and probably won't buy GTA6 on release. Looks fun, but I'll be more interested when they show what's new in terms of gameplay. Just hope TES6 comes out before 2030 haha.
I wondered how Rockstar would find a new slice of Americana to parody.
Modern day Florida is absolutely perfect for the series. The gangs, the (in my opinion) gaudy hip hop culture, the nursing homes and retirement communities, the gators, the trailer parks built on swampland, rednecks and religion, the populism and love for conservative politicians, natural disasters, private rehabs that fleece the most vulnerable, and so much more.
This game is going to be the most American thing ever made.
I always wondered if this series' satirical views of parts of the U.S. were at all accurate, being British, so I'm happy to hear that they've clearly done some good research!
If you've ever been to the non-Disney parts of Florida, you'll understand.
Florida, Texas, California, and New York are like the four corners of American culture. Florida is by far the most absurd.
I can't really do it justice, but here is the best way I can think to describe it.
Drive down a busy road in Florida and you'll likely pass by the following things REPEATEDLY (like dozens or hundreds of times over the course of an hour):
A mix of pristine cars from the last 30+ years - preserved by the weather and lack of road salt.
Pawn shops built across from pawn shops that are next door to bigger pawn shops. Usually with names like The Diamond Lounge or Million Dollar Pawn.
The gaudiest, most pimped out cars you've seen in your life.
Trailer parks built on swampland. The kind where you have to be careful your dog doesn't get eaten by gators.
Speaking of gators, you'll see them lounging by the side of the road anywhere there's a disgusting green pond, creek, or river.
Old people in expensive cars driving with one foot on the brake and one on the gas. They go way under the speed limit and piss off the young people who go way over the speed limit.
Street races at night.
Dirtbikes being used legally or illegally on roads.
No helmets on motorcycles because there are no helmets laws.
GIANT American flags and pro-Trump displays. You'll also see some nasty, vulgar stuff against Biden or Clinton pretty frequently.
Disney shit.
Swamp people and rednecks doing redneck stuff like having powered refrigerators sitting in the back of their pickup while they're going 70 down a highway. Just wild stuff.
Pools. Palm trees and beaches. Obviously.
License plates from literally everywhere in the country. As an American, that's something you don't usually see since it's such a big country and driving even to the state next door takes many hours.
Golf carts nowhere near a golf course. Hundreds of them. People use them to drive around their neighborhood and they usually decorate them.
Retirement communities.
Guns everywhere. Open carry is common.
You'll hear Jimmy Buffett. But usually just that one song.
I could probably list a lot more. But yeah, that's really how Florida is. To be fair, there are also lots of wealthy areas and beautiful cities with very vibrant cultures. The night life is also very cool.
Edit: forgot to mention heroin and meth use.
I will also add that Florida has some of the most beautiful buildings and landscapes directly next to some of the ugliest urban sprawl in the country. Everything looks like an outlet mall. Mattress stores, law firms, churches, and liquor stores crammed into tiny plazas mile after mile. There are places where you just drive through massive stretches of single story commercial buildings. God it's so ugly.
As a former Florida resident, who has lived in Pompano Beach, Ft Lauderdale, Boca Raton, and downtown Miami, I can vouch for all that, and even more absurdities beyond.
E.g. Where I originally lived in Pompano had a huge pond in the middle of the apartment complex that usually had a few gators in it, which was right next to the complex's community pool... so a gator managing to get into the pool area and shutting it down until animal control could arrive to remove it was ridiculously common. And gators even somehow getting into totally fenced/walled off residential pools wasn't all that uncommon either. They're tenacious and clever little bastards.
And speaking of gators, and your mention of dogs getting eaten by them, a dog actually did go missing from that Pompano apartment complex while I was living there, and I don't think it takes a genius to figure out what likely happened to it. So it's not just trailer parks where that happens.
And I also once woke up to find my car resting on milk crates. As a naive Canadian kid, I thought that was just an urban myth or TV trope. But nope. Turns out thieves in Florida can disable your car alarm, tear it out of your car, smash your car's windows, steal your stereo, subwoofer, tires and rims, and will just leave the entire vehicle resting on milk crates afterwards... without anyone noticing (or caring), despite it having been parked in a brightly lit car park.
And the gated community where my parents lived in Boca would, every morning, have a literal dump truck filled to the brim with workers, packed in there like sardines, drive in and drop them off to do all the gardening, landscaping, and maintenance work. And at the end of the day they would all pile back into the dump truck, now full of garbage and trimmings, and head off back home.
And every Home Depot in Florida also usually has a line of (presumably undocumented) workers waiting in front of them. And people will just drive up to them in their pickup trucks, scream in Spanish from their window how many workers they need, have that many workers pile into the back of the truck, and then drive off to take them to some random job. I thought that was also a TV trope... but nope, turns out it's not.
And I was also going to point out the lack of methheads, and the insane shit they often get up to, in your comment, but I see that you edited it to include giving the meth problem a mention now. ;)
Florida is fucking nuts.
p.s. If you're ever walking around in Florida and suddenly get overwhelmed by the smell of semen mixed with a hint of vomit and/or rotting fish... don't worry, it's probably just the callery pear trees in bloom... probably. :P
This whole comment could be talking about south Alabama too, which is a lot like north Florida, just mostly poorer.
And God, those Bradford Pear trees are everywhere in the south (maybe all over the US, I'm not sure) and they stink like absolute hell.
I never encountered this, so it is probably not common. We did have a lot of different types of palms everywhere though.
Drove a U-Haul truck down a road one time and forgot it was the street where all the day laborers usually wait. I felt bad because half of them got up to walk towards my truck and I just kept driving.
"California" culture as we think of it is largely souther California. Northern California starts to turn into a continuum with the Pacific NorthWest (they would dispute this, but they must search their feelings. They know it to be true).
Then you've got the Midwest which is it's own separate thing, though the consolidation of all media markets into a gruel of ClearChannel radio and cable news has started to smudge it all up.
You mean the free state of Jefferson?
I lived in FL for my entire life until the past few months, and this is pretty accurate for most of the state. The fact that GTA VI is set there is absurd, but also really drives home why I took my family and escaped.
I mean, Vice City was always in Florida. Just 80s Florida.
True, and I loved Vice City, but current day Florida is something else. 0/10, do not recommend IRL, but could be a fun place for many to cause virtual mayhem.
You're not wrong. I've spent plenty of time in Florida already and do not need to spend anymore.
A virtual visit is the best the Sunshine State is going to get out of me - if Rockstar sees fit to release a PC version. Granted, they waited so long on GTAV that I got it five years after release when a friend gifted it to me.
I just left, so I don't feel like I need a refresher any time soon. I can wait for a PC release and also wait and see if Rockstar decides to make this a mostly online money milking machine like V was.
Is that in question? Why would they turn off the money milking machine when its still making them money?
I don't expect the money printer to be turned off, I just didn't feel like the actual main game of V was substantial enough since I have no interest in the online component.
Granted, I haven't played V since it was new (on the PS3, so we're talking ancient history) but I remember being totally satisfied with the single-player game. Between the three main characters I thought there was a ton of variety and it took a good long time to get through it all. I'm always a little confused when I read this opinion online, it feels like folks aren't remembering properly, or they're judging the game by newer standards, or maybe their feelings toward the offline game are overshadowed by sour grapes for GTAO?
Yeah, i love the florida man/worldstar feel to the stuff in the trailer. Its got such a great vibe already.
Was going to comment about GTA: Vice City already being set in Miami, so this has been done before. After goolging, it reads like Vice City is going to be included in the GTA6 map. That's fun! Wonder if it'll be same layout as og vice city
True! But Vice City was set in the 80s. I think present day Florida will be a whole different ball game.
It would be very notable if it was. GTA4 and GTA5's layouts were very different than the original cities. Even Grove St. was almost completely different in GTA5, it really seems like there is has never been much intention to make callbacks to previous games.
I thought that was FarCry 5?
Trailer leaked so rockstar decided to post it early.
2025 released date.
2025 released date for XBOX S/X and PS5... no release date for PC yet though. :(
Too much money not to eventually put it out on PC. Until then, I'll keep playing all the old games I missed.
Though, I didn't really enjoy GTA V anyway, but maybe I should try it again. Liked Online early on, but the characters in V were so over the top and irritating, I couldn't be bothered.
im willing to bet five bucks that even when they release it to PC, itll be on their own launcher only for like the first year.
They still haven't put RDR1 on PC, even though they just did a remaster...
That looks legitimately nuts, I'm astounded at the "eh, doesn't look that great" comments I've read online.
The graphics combined with the sheer density of stuff packed into each frame are insane.
In my mind there are only two ways they can fuck this up and not make it the absolutely uncontested GOTY and candidate for best game ever: One is if it runs like crap on its intended hardware or the density is severely degraded. The other is if 9/10 things you see are not things you can do. If I see a boat I expect to be able to commandeer that boat. If I see a gator in a corner shop I expect to be able to fight off gators in corner shops. If it's a vehicle I should be able to drive it, if it's a cool location I expect to be able to visit it, if an NPC is doing it in a cut-scene I expect to be able to do it (referring to activities not random animations).
I don't know what people expect from graphics nowadays, but at some point, you reach a plateau in which an increase in photorealism doesn't necessarily make a game better. You must also consider the whole visual style and artistic direction. The graphics in the trailer are perfectly fine and in tone with the theme.
I know, it just feels like sometimes people are comparing game engine capabilities in some theoretical vacuum. As if the engine that could render a person with a few more polygons and slightly better textures in a blank background would be "better" than the engine that could do a slightly worse job but fill an entire city with NPCs like that.
What's the point if you're going to ignore what the graphics bring to the game, if you don't care about making the game world feel alive and interesting?
The graphics in the trailer in the context of just how many things are going on in each shot are amazing.
If there's anything GTA is known for it's that you usually can do those things. What you see is what you get and you're mostly free to go where you please.
I think the one way to fuck this up is to mess up the singleplayer to the point of irrelevancy while still using the spaghetti netcode they're using for multiplayer now. How many minutes I spent waiting for the game to load me into an online lobby rivals the amount of time actually played online.
First glimpse looks incredible so far! It's going to be a very long wait till 2025. Hopefully they take their time perfecting everything and don't rush the release. I just hope it releases on PC on the same day as consoles.
It's going to be hard not to get hyped up too much too early on.
I'm reaaaaaalllly hoping for a PC same day release. I didn't even finish RDR2 because I played half of it on PS4 and I'm not a huge fan of the controls on controller. And then I didn't buy it on PC out of principle.
Looks like it's PS5, XBX only at the moment, we know it'll be out for PC though eventually: https://www.take2games.com/ir/news/rockstar-games-announces-grand-theft-auto-vi-coming-2025
Looks great.
I'm just happy it's not set in NYC. Nothing against the city, but the last time Rockstar did NYC they forgot to add the colors.
A triple-A with vibrant colors is always something to celebrate.
i think that had more to do with the time at which it released than the setting. aggressive digital color grading was all the rage in film, television, and even video games back then.
Although many reviewers mentioned how sad NYC looks in GTA IV, I can't readily find an analysis of the color in that game. However, the first random review that I played had this image, which completely reflects my experiences with it. I have played many games from that era. Mirror's Edge, Devil May Cry 4, Far Cry 2, and World of Warcraft: Wrath of the Lich King were also released in 2008. This is not just a technological limitation. They decided to make the game grey.
That's what I'm saying, it was a very popular aesthetic choice in 2008. More colorful games like Mirrors Edge were the exception. Borderlands is a good example if you want to see where the trend shifted. The first game was very grey in 2009, and by the sequel in 2012 they flipped it around with very saturated colors.
Oh, okay. I thought you meant they couldn't add more colors for some reason. But even compared to the average game in 2008 or today, they went way further in this trend, to the point that it must be one of the greyest games I have ever played. GTA IV stands out even amongst its colorless peers.
I bet there's some mod to remove the grey filter. Edit: of course there is.
The graphics look insane. I can't really say that I resonate with the social media / TikTok overtones though. I remember the original GTA V trailers, especially the Michael/Franklin/Trevor ones. They were giving me goosebumps, while this one didn't do much for me. But I will definitely be playing it on release, provided it won't release as a buggy mess. I doubt it, but I also doubted that other games would release in a broken state. I guess we'll see.
I anticipate this will actually be a core theme of the game. I believe every major Rockstar game has had a running theme of the protagonist struggling to adjust to the modern world in some way, from Tommy Vercetti trying to figure out the world after years in prison to Arthur Morgan's existential battle with the waning of the West. I remember a big part of Michael's story in GTAV was simply trying to figure out his kids' interests and the world around him after isolating himself for so long.
So I anticipate that social media and technology (which they've been emulating more and more with each GTA release) will be a bigger part but it will be from the lens of satirizing and struggling with it rather than just trying to make people do TikTok within the game.
I hope anyway, that would be a nightmare if it's played straight.
Since it first went 3D, GTA always satirizes the worst aspects of American culture. Given that this game takes place in current times, how could it not talk about social media and TikTok?
The trailer looks good, but I think I've had my fill of open world games at this point, and GTA in particular. I've also lost what little patience I had with rockstar.
I'm still waiting for GTAV DLC. Online was okay but they should have put some effort back into supporting the reason I picked up GTAV in the first place. Then all the other shenanigans they've pulled, sending it DMCA notices for projects which don't actually infringe on their IP. While it was the parent company responsible for sending those notices, I have little reason to support R*.
Looks pretty good, though graphics aren't really what I play GTA for. I hope they've made some big strides in the game mechanics, they'll need big progress to separate it from V
IMO the game feel of GTA5 was pretty weak, even in 2013, at least the on-foot controls. I hope that running around, aiming and shooting, etc all feel a lot better.
I hope that RDR2's success rubs off a bit in terms of story. I "enjoyed" 80% of GTA5's story, but I'm hoping they straddle the gonzo line without falling into self-parody. I enjoyed running over lines of monks to get the score bonus back in the day, but I'm interested in some additional nuance at this point.
RDR2 was the first Rockstar game I bought. It was really disappointing as an open-world game goes. There’s a Jacob Geller video on the game that covers this well. But in short: the game’s meant to be enjoyed in a specific way. If you deviate even a little bit you crash into a brick wall.
If GTA6 is different I’d love to give them my money.
How is RDR2 supposed to be enjoyed? I personally found a headcanon diversion from the plot where Arthur leaves and is happy with his lady love and stopped playing before the end, but I never found a way to play where I felt like I was being railroaded, and I left the story behind for large swaths of my time with the game. Just wandered and gathered and hunted and saved random people on the road.
Story missions is what they were referring to. RDR2 is notorious for the clash between the brilliant open world & the story missions where if you step outside the intended path you face a "mission failed" screen.
So it's no surprise that this wasn't your experience, since you didn't really focus on the story missions.
Yeah. The main story was fairly constrictive, in that you were following the story of a given man, without any of the choices we've come to expect in an RPG. We may get to choose who to shoot first, but if shooting is on the menu there's no sending it back and asking for a stealth section or choosing to leave some plum fool in jail.
I can accept this type of restriction, as long as the story is worth telling. The restriction I have in mind is gameplay related. I remember trying to flank some enemies once, and getting a mission failed screen, because the game wanted me to follow a precise, invisible link of checkpoints, and not deviate from them. That happens many times and it pulls away any creativity/freedom you might have when fulfilling your objective. This is in stark contrast with the open world design.
Interesting. I must have been doing exactly what the game wanted by just running straight through while shooting anything that moved, because I never had that experience.
There were some missions where I received the Mission Failed screen because I went to loot the enemies I had just killed for some ammo. The bodies, and where we fought, were somehow marked out of the mission zone when the next stage activated.
If you're interested in more details, I went into a lot of detail in my take on the game a couple of years ago. Essentially despite how amazing so much of the game was, there really did feel like a "proper way" to play it and it's what created the most friction between player and game. I think a lot of people felt it contemporaneously but it's somewhat forgotten as the game has faded into memory for many.
Any quest really.
I echo this opinion a lot. People think it's funny, but some of my favorite experiences with GTA have been with the story. IV is my favorite because it had that more grounded and darker story. It was like a serious world that funny things could happen in, which made the funny things a little funnier imo.
Having a single protagonist will probably facilitate a more engaging narrative.
The trailer looks fantastic but I was really hoping for a return to the 80s Vice City.
Genuinely considering buying a PS5 (or whatever bundle is available) at the time to play this game, given that it isn’t releasing same day PC. My only hope is that one of the consoles allow mouse and keyboard (or gyro, at the least!) for this game.
Honest question, why not wait for pc? What's the rush?
a) I genuinely like the GTA single player games
b) Man, it's been 10 years since the last GTA, I really want to see this one, especially if I have to wait another 2 years for it to come out on PC.
c) Don't want to get spoiled, as much as possible.
d) I have the disposable income to make it work.
It's really d) that does the heavy lifting for everything else. If I was not in the position to consider it, I could absolutely tolerate waiting for the inevitable PC release.
It's hard not to be caught up in the hype, but honestly I barely played GTA5 and probably won't buy GTA6 on release. Looks fun, but I'll be more interested when they show what's new in terms of gameplay. Just hope TES6 comes out before 2030 haha.
Looks fake
I'm not sure where you're getting that, but the video is on Rockstar's official channel.
Yeah it's a pretty convincing fake I'll give them that