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Reddit's u/GallowBoob here
I just wanted to check out your platform and was told about it by an ex reddit admin who is now involved in this project. Absolutely love the approach and what you're rallying behind!
Best of luck!
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This site has a LOT of old guard reddit mods and "power users" right now. It's inevitable that when someone as high profile as GB comes over that there's gonna be a bit of a circlejerk.
It doesn't really count as "valuable discussion", but it can be fun, nonetheless.
Community discussion (as long as it's not hateful echo chambers) is good in all shape and form. Thanks again for the shout bby.
Yes, but... circlejerks, especially meta ones, are the discussion equivalent of memes. Easy to participate if you're in on the joke, impenetrable if you're not, and fairly low effort. That's not to say they're inherently bad, just that they have less of a place here.
I'm not in on the joke - seriously, I have no idea who GB is - and this does indeed look like a low effort reddit circlejerk to me.
that's because it is
GallowBoob is a fairly high-profile reddit user, known for having tons of karma and being very good at earning karma through reposting to multiple subreddits / deleting and resubmitting later if a post doesn't do well. Many redditors see this as gaming the system and get quite upset over it. Others don't care and upvote it anyways. Either way - it's pointless and dumb, if he wants to participate in high-effort discussion then cool.
Literally my first intro post. We need to all collectively have a snickers i think.
hey, i should clarify - i was saying that turning things into an argument about your presence or past posting practices was pointless and dumb, not that this particular thread is, and that if you are here in good faith and want to participate then that's cool! Which I don't see why you'd bother being here if you weren't here in good faith, haha.
I was genuinely interested as soon as Demiroz announced it on the reddit default slack, a while back. I only got around to making an intro post today. I can't say I appreciate the negative reddit-bandwagon approach some of your users on here seem to have. I can't say I am surprised, but I assumed this would be above all that childish nonesensical noise. Definitely want to engage and see what this community has to offer since there seem to be a steady growth of discussions!
Yeah, I think it's a largely a knee-jerk reaction to seeing those meta-circlejerk-style comments pop up, combined with your existing notoriety. I'm hoping everyone's able to cool their jets and realize it's not necessary to jump down everyone's throat screaming about high-effort content; that gentle nudges in the direction of high-effort content work just as well.
Same here my dude. I came here to get away from the negative reddit noise, not to dabble in it on a new platform...
I think we should be welcoming of people regardless of their username.
This is a different site, let's not judge people based on their actions elsewhere.
I'm pretty sure at this point OP knows that we don't want reposted fluff / amusement gifs here.
Even though that's their specialty on reddit, they seem to be sticking around and submitting only comments. Can we not give them the benefit of the doubt? Can we try and not pre-judge people, is what I'm asking.
Well here's some positive noise to balance out the negative noise.
Glad to see you here.
I like what they're trying to build here, tho am still only beginning to explore. I get that this place isn't reddit, but it'd be silly to pretend that we don't recognize names we've grown to like/respect/other there. Hopefully that good stuff can continue here w/o the toxicity that's driving some of us away from reddit - a platform we otherwise have liked & often invested time trying to improve.
(& reacting negatively to something just because the OP is [InsertNameHere] def seems like one of those things that ought to be left behind.)
So good to see YOU of all people here and read your kind words. Truly made my day better. I thank you for taking the time to drop that comment and if i still use this platform i hope to see you around in wholesome positivity.
Most of us wouldn't have an account here if we didn't have major problems with their platform.
It's a bunch of people who recognize each others' usernames saying hi, pretty much. I wouldn't worry too much about it, it's unlikely to be a repeat occurrence.
Gallowboob is the current top holder of karma on reddit and is known for being on the front page a lot. If you've never been to reddit, that won't mean much. His username's just well known.
Agreed. While I do enjoy the more in depth discussions on tildes, there should also be a place for more lighthearted banter that isn't quite as serious.
Tell me about it.
They're all coming out of the woodwork now!
What are your thoughts on the merits of something like HQG on tildes? Not low effort, reposted, rehosted memes, but actual OC that users put time and effort into.
HQG has always only allowed original content, so I think there could be a place for it here eventually. In my opinion, it's not any different than people posting their original photography, writing, music, or any other user-created art form.
But I didn't come here to impose HQG on Tildes or anything like that. I'm perfectly happy just to see what this site develops into before we start worrying about adding gifs. I just want somewhere else to go besides Reddit, and I've always liked /u/Deimos.
HQG is often so self-referencing that it seems masturbatory. The GIFs are cool sometimes, but the meta stuff is mostly pointless to anyone not part of the group.
Yeah and I don't love that aspect of it either. HQG wasn't always that way.
But it's also very easy to become part of "the group" if you want to. All you have to do is learn to make gifs and stick around long enough—and those people really enjoy the subreddit. So I have the outside people and "the group" on both sides, and it's impossible to please everyone. If I were to ban meta gifs, most of the regular users would be disappointed.
My position has always been to have as few rules as possible in HQG, and just let the subreddit evolve naturally based on what people create and vote for. It's not going to please everyone, but it is a 100% user-driven subreddit with all original content, and I'm proud of that.
Welcome to Tildes by the way!
Hey thanks!
See, that's an opportunity for the bubble-up system to work. The stewards of ~creative.hqg can push the best non-meta posts up into ~creative, and leave the meta posts in hqg where people get the joke.
It has been stated before that Tildes aims to avoid low-effort, easily-digestible content. I think we can all agree that HQGs are anything but low-effort; OC gifs take many hours to create, perhaps even moreso than a lengthy discussion-worthy text post. That is hardly comparable to slapping some text onto an advice animal.
However, those gifs are also highly-digestible, and would likely garner votes more easily than discussion posts. So the question becomes, do we allow high-effort, high-return comedy posts on Tildes? And if we do, where do we draw the line on high-effort vs low-effort? It sounds like a difficult matter to me to police content quality.
I enjoy it, but I'm not so sure other tildes members agree. I haven't seen any images being posted, including photography.
I wouldn't mind seeing some OC photography and art of high quality at some point as the communities become more established. Maybe something like a ~hobbies.photography, or ~art.photography. There's discussion and value in art, poetry, theater, music, and the like to be had.
I think most of us can agree that reposted memes and gifs are not something we're looking for here.
I think that's what ~creative.photographsandpaintingsandstuff aims to be, as things grow.
Awesome, I hadn't thought of ~creative as being a space for that, but I guess it makes sense.
I believe it was Deimos who said the intention would be that subjects that would heavily overlap would point to the the same group, as in ~creative.photography and ~art.photography would both point to ~art.photography, which seems like a good idea to prevent someone looking for creative photography having to look at two or three groups.
Ok, this isn't appropriate at all. Whether you dislike someone or not, there's no call for calling someone trash, a fuckstick, and a piece of shit when all they've done is post an intro post.
If you want to promote valuable discussion and not harm intellectual discussion, be an example of that behaviour rather than emulating the worst aspects of reddit.
Wow. I'd be inclined to say that perhaps it's you, or at the very least your attitude, that doesn't belong here.
If you can't express yourself like an adult with a point that deserves to be heard don't be surprised when no one takes notice of what you say.
Choose your words more carefully and cut out the childish personal attacks.
The way you've approached this issue means it's highly unlikely anyone wants to engage with you or your concerns now.
I don't get paid to post on reddit as the reddit model doesn't allow it and frankly the reddit userbase frowns on this. So your information is false and misleading. But i can't blame you for thinking it.
Relax, no one is out to get you or this platform. We're all just equally bored.
If you'd read the very article you linked, you'd know that it in, he explicitly states that he has never accepted money in exchange for posting on reddit. It has gotten him a job offer at a social media company, which is a different thing altogether. And as I recall, he left said job when they tried to pressure him into using his reddit account to benefit their site.
GB has his issues, but being a paid shill on reddit isn't one of them.
I feel like there's a lot of hostility here. Believe me I see where you're coming from, but it's not constructive at all to resort to personal attacks right away.
Please no.
ASPARTAME IS NOT YOUR FRIEND
I literally popped in to say hello. I support what the community is trying to do here but you need to calm down a little and take a step back on the whole reddit-GB bandwagon. Talking about not bringing the negative reddit over here and meanwhile you are doing just that.
My first post was merely an intro post, the fact some people recognized the name and came for a laugh is in no way detrimental to the platform on the long run.
Let's not over react here. And Aspartame is indeed not great so not sure what rubbed you the wrong way? Also his comment was nowhere near constructive enough, you want a constructive reply you do the effort too.
I fail to understand your initial comment's approach then.
Luckily enough, that's not your call.
Congratulations on being the first low effort troll I've seen on the site.
That's not how this works. We're trying something new and we need to understand that most people will not immediately understand the environment. A single good-faith introductory post that you have the ability to filter out is no excuse to personally attack someone.
I mean really? It's one post and he's already "farming karma", "feeding his ego", and "ruining other people's experience". Ridiculous.
I've read the Daily Discussion, and I think it was quite obviously aimed at comments like this:
which is something I would consider an attack, but I understand you may have different standards
I never said anything about the site going down. I'm defending GB and this post from the users who are making a huge deal of it. I've literally made extensive comments about how we shouldn't be "trying to decide what this place is". You arguing a point that I already defend on the site. I think you're still missing what I'm saying, you've been rude and dismissive in this comment section for no reason, and now I'm a bit lost as to what point you're trying to make.
I think the user above is a troll. Checking how it's engaging other comments on here. Disregard it and i appreciate the kind words.
You’re not the arbiter of who belongs here. You should read this.
https://tildes.net/~tildes.official/3t5/daily_tildes_discussion_just_try_to_relax_a_bit
I'm not the one telling a new user he shouldn't be here.
https://docs.tildes.net/code-of-conduct
Don't act like an asshole and routinely make other people's experiences—or lives—worse.
I'd say you're doing exactly that right now.
Por que no los dos? Must only one person in any conversation be acting like an asshole. I think most fair readings of where this exchange started would come with at minimum you starting with a hostile, unwelcoming tone. You’re going way too far to justify that obvious aggression. And there’s a good deal of irony in responding to it at all.
The difference here between personal attack and asshole-like aggression seems like semantics when the net effect is still to be curt, to speak for more of the community than yourself, and to undermine any real ability to engage in rewarding conversation.
Simply put, I know of no one who’d see this exchange and feel like this is the community for them. That’s a bigger problem than whether you used a personal attack or not.
And yet it's not up to you or anyone else to decide that.
There's been lots of other 'hello everybody' posts here. I don't know why people get mad about you doing the same.
People as much as they want to herald behind the "new community" false flag it seems, they are redditors born and bred with an obsessively misplaced bias on someone's online persona.
I use my reddit username here as well, but it might have been better, maybe just for a little while, to have come here as a not-so-well-known username, and just joined the discussion. Better for you, maybe, but definitely better for us and the site as a whole because we'd have gotten a chance to know you without the baggage of that username, and you wouldn't have been subjected to the (albeit somewhat embarrassing) gatekeeping you've seen in this thread.
I still welcome you here, and hope you turn out to be a great asset to the community. Cheers.
Appreciate the kind words and comment. I am keen on the discussion over here and while i could have made an anonymous new account it helps recognising some old friends.
It's not really a "victim complex" when someone is actually being personally attacked.
Do you realise you flocked over MY intro post? Lmao. Snickers are your friend.
aha! i've figured out your angle here! that's twice in this thread you're shilling for Big Snickers... won't fool me.... /s
Hahaha we need (NO WE DONT) another r/Hailcorporate here.
He's working for Big Peanut.
I think this is for you.
https://tildes.net/~tildes.official/3t5/daily_tildes_discussion_just_try_to_relax_a_bit
Relax. It was an intro post. You could have ignored it. Instead here you are.
citation needed
I DO NOT REPOST I AGGREGATE CONTENT ACCORDINGLY FAM! Hahaha but i hear you loud and clear.
This right here is why people are not super welcoming of you. Caps lock yelling and run on sentences suggest a minuscule amount of thought or effort was put into each reply. Quantity over quality seems to be your MO.
I came here to get away from the nonsense of reddit and see better quality conversation. When I saw gallowboob popping in just to say "Hi" it definitely looked like his attempt at gaining fame here and getting more votes. I figured I was wrong and took a look at the thread to see if I needed to change my mind. Nope, his comments really do nothing for conversation, and looks like some sort of effort to mimic the Reddit comments. No thanks.
You guys need to rethink your initial approach and "fragile" state of the community standards. People having a bit of fun in the comments of a post congratulating the admins on their platform is not what i'd call shaking your foundations.
Sincerely.
You are not shaking the foundations of fragile community standards. You're just making noise. We'll all get along fine as long as you keep the noise to a reasonable level.
Just bear in mind people are here because they want something different than Reddit, so they'd likely prefer vapid shitposting to stay over there and will get their feathers ruffled if that becomes more prevalent over here.
I'm going to have to contest this. GB made a single introduction post and ~ half of the comments are from users immediately coming in to complain about the post and in some cases to personally insult GB. I'd say GB has handled himself quite well comparatively and I'm not sure how a single topic (especially when made in good faith) constitutes "making noise" and/or shitposting
Much of it is fine and I don't really have a problem with the post, but some of the comments really add nothing worthwhile at all. I did not intend to imply that everything he does here or elsewhere is "making noise" or "shitposting", so I apologize if it came across that way.
I absolutely understand that. Trust me. It's exactly what I'm saying, if people are here to get away from reddit in all its shape and form it both means the circlejerk + the toxicity (at least to me). I want to avoid both, but people recognizing my username and saying hello should not be met with other borderline hateful comments. If that becomes a repetitive thing, fair enough. Ban them for all I care and me included.
Absolutely no need for aggregation on here! It's not even the model it was built upon. Reddit on the other hand is all about aggregation, or at least it was for the past 12 years. I'm here for the discussion to be honest, just hope the trolls cool it. Thanks for the your kind words man! I wanted to share some photography OC but i failed to find where to post that.
I'm not real happy with the community responses here ... @GallowBoob posted a basic "hello from someone you've probably seen on reddit" and many of the initial responses are to grab pitchforks. I thought the point here was to not have kneejerk reactions? Judge based on content?
It is a "low effort" post but not any more or less than others have posted in ~talk considering the "celebrity" involved and for some of the regular reddit users who happened to backslide into that style of interacting maybe not the best response but hardly worth getting so elitist about it. @GallowBoob responded well to the constructive advice about the differences and he responded well to it. What's the problem?
Edit: One note for @gallowboob though ... you keep saying "your community" instead of "our community" even though you are posting here as a member of this community. That is something that can make your statements read as confrontational rather than participatory. There are good responses in this thread ... but some are clearly reddit karma habits and those are a bit glaring and more concerning because it's you doing it. It's your reputation and it's up to you to manage it here, not us.
I agree - we should judge our dear karmawhore @Gallowboob later on his subsequent posts, not on his very first. 'Hello nice to meet you' introductory posts naturally have a lower level of discourse anyway, but we should tolerate them because it forms part of the community-building on this website. Seriousness breeds good discourse, levity breeds good communities. It would be silly to think one can survive without the other.
One of the early replies stated GB is paid to post content on Reddit. I think if people have evidence of that then a lot of the posts here are far more reasonable than if it's not true.
How are you at the top of the Front Page already?
Ugh, Tildes is the new Digg.
I've been here 5 minutes and I already ruined this platform... god damn it
The main drawback I see is that Tildes, like Imzy, lacks a score tally (karma). On Reddit, karma is one of the big motivators for posting. Obviously it's not the only motivator, but it's one of them.
Without more motivation to contribute content, I don't think Tildes stands a chance at successfully competing with Reddit. Maybe Deimos/Deimorz has some ideas for that, it's not my area of expertise.
As some anecdotal-evidence of this, my high-effort reddit main of 7-years has about 3/4k karma, while my r/Politics throwaway of only a few months is over 50k karma in just comments. That throwaway is mostly just for venting. It is not a quality account.
It's also the biggest motivation to shitpost.
this probably belongs in ~talk.
what are your impressions so far?
Thanks for redirecting me. I should make a new post there instead, or just post a new one.
I like the very straightforward analog style. It was what brought me to reddit in the first place.
I'd say post there instead except there's already a decent amount of comments. It would probably be better to wait until @Deimos sees it, he's moved posts in the past and probably could move this one too.
Sounds good. Also nice platform you've got there @Deimos!
Ok, this post proves we need user filtering asap. Please. Sooner rather than later.
Filter the introductions tag. That’s what it’s there for.
Great. This is exactly the kind of warm welcome I'll look forward to from the other invites I have to give out.
Who appointed you the decider of what is interesting? You're that willing to immediately dismiss everything this person has to offer us?
@mangotiger simply stated they wanted to filter users for themselves... I did not get the impression they wanted to filter users for anyone else.
I was more referring to this comment as needlessly rude and dismissive.
FYI , a backhanded insult is still an insult. He literally made one post, calm down.
Repost
WHAT ARE YOU EVEN DOING HERE MY DUDE? Hahahahaha oh god
I'm slowly making this my new online home. That's what I'm doing here.
Can't blame you for burning out over at reddit.
Thanks MKV!
I just used reddit for what it is, an aggregation platform. And their tools often frown upon redirecting users outside of reddit, even more so when it's a personal social media / individual's account. Which makes crediting almost impossible. I have been sticking my own mod stickies lately when i can and when the source is reddit-friendly (my posts and other's).
I am here to get away from the negative toxic reddit, so I'm hoping not to have to deal with more of that along with baseless emotional accusations and toxicity.
Seems like the community here is somewhat more composed. And that is a +1 from me.
I'd really appreciate an introduction to you as a person! All I know about you is that you "aggregate content" to your reddit account, and used it as a digital marketing portfolio. This community is a lot more composed, and largely puts more effort into the comments and posts, but more importantly it's still quite small, so you see familiar usernames around everywhere. That means it's harder to blend in anonymously like reddit, but it also means it's harder to stand out among everyone else for the merit of being famous on another social media site.
My first instinct was to post a "you have no power here" reaction meme, you're already influencing me. GET OUT OF MY HEAD.
hahahahaha I love your username for what that's worth. I have no idea what i'm doing here but if i'm honest I like the community i'm seeing.
I never understood all the hate toward you, I always enjoyed your post even if they clearly will not fit right into tildes.
I'd say that you're welcome as long as you keep the fluff (and I don't intend it as a negative name) outside of here!
Have a good day/evening :)
Thanks! That's what I came here for, just normal human beings being themselves. Not whatever pseudo-drama some people are bandwagoning in the comments. Talk about a new community when you see the same baseless hate you see on reddit.
-1 on this from me @Deimos
+1 on the comment above and the other like it though
Hope you're having a good one too @crius! :)
as a long term reddit user, fan of yours and the CC, tildes isnt even close to a reddit.
tildes is your very common PHPBBV4 heavily curated forum. it shows little, if any, resemblance to the user moderated/curated link aggregate with threaded discussion that is reddit.
i wouldnt waste your time here. these people are without any joy or humor, or anything that would make this place interesting.
sticks so far up their own asses they have to part their hair different.
Oof. I was tempted to respond here with a your mom joke, but then I thought that might help your point.
This place is young and much of the trust sysytems planned aren’t in place. While people are definitely overreacting in this thread, it’s probably a bit soon to write the whole thing off as a community of humorless bureaucrats.
And anyway, you’re here too. Maybe help make a space for humor in ~misc?
I see you've all given GB the warm Tildes welcome.
I am overwhelmed with both dualities.
Heck off gallownoob
Aw jesus. Who let you in here?
I was promised no awkward turtles here. PLS HECK OFF FREN!
I never missed not having the downvote option on tildes until I came across this comment chain...
wow rude
no u
Fuck Gallowboob
It somehow doesn't surprise me that this is your first contribution to this site.
I love you too bby <3
Hey GallowBoob. So interesting to hear from you here. What an interesting phenomenon this is, really. So many conflicting things going on here. Allow me to spitball...
On the one hand, to many people you represent one of the worst parts of Reddit -- a part which many have come here to avoid. So it's worrisome to many to see you here.
On the other hand, you're still just another human being. You've put up your picture; we know your face. You have some active and interesting communities (I enjoy r/BPT). It's not right to be hostile.
On the other hand, it's just a Hello post -- why is this so damn special? On the other hand, it's a hello from fucking GallowBoob, who is... (and we're going full circle here).
I disagree with the fella who said "your community" is confrontational. I'd be more worried to hear GallowBoob calling it "our community". It's cool to see you here saying hello -- and perhaps give us feedback on how to make it not as easily abusable as Reddit, since you're essentially the expert in abusing Reddit's karma system.
Anyways -- welcome! Thanks for stopping by. Beer's in the the fridge, chips are on the the table.
This thread in a nutshell.
I don't know much about GB but I think I do now.
Hi Gallow! We're (at least, some of us) glad we have you here. Don't worry about the response you got, people are just worried you'll bring your reddit posts here. Just start few high-quality discussions and everything will be fine.
Anyway, this is introduction thread. Tell us something about yourself! What do you do IRL, which ~ did you subbed to?
And welcome to Tildes.
Thanks for the kind words and the comment! I am looking at more discussions today without the "GB" needing to be attached. I came here for the discussion, not the aggregation. Obviously!
I'm just going to lock this thread, since it's about 80% dumb bickering now. Let's move on.
That's cool, this site needs content but any proof?
Can confirm: speaking with GB on slack.
I’ll admit it. I don’t know who you are, and others reactions confused me a great deal. Anyway, welcome. You seem like you’ve got a sense of humor.
Appreciate it Buckeye. I'm here for the positive discussion and definitely not for the toxic slapfighting.
this is fine
probably
LMAO thank you my dude! Good to see you on here too!
Hello and welcome GallowBoob. I do not know of your fame. I will learn directly and not listen to the buzz, as that is my job.
oh hai
Hi you. Thanks for the shout :)
I love seeing some friendly faces on here.
Will you be posting butt pics here? Thanks in advance.
Only if @Deimos doesn't ban me.
Hi Gboob, welcome! :)
Thanks Mera! Good to see you here :)
Fancy seeing you here too my dude!