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Tildes Minecraft server launch - Java Edition SMP
Hey everyone! Since it was brought up in this thread I've created a Minecraft server.
Details:
- Version: 1.20 (Join from Bedrock)
- Host:
tildes.nore.gg - Plugins: Basics for server administration and rapid leaf decay
I know there was some push back on running v1.20. I am operating under the assumption that the majority of Minecraft players here aren't opposed to the newest version.
Currently the server is un-whitelisted.
I used to run moderately large Minecraft servers years ago. I'd love for us to have a healthy player base so that we can have periodic events (in game lore, UHC, etc.)! I play more of a game master role - so don't be surprised if you see me just floating around in creative mode!
Edit:
Updates:
- Set sleep threshold to 50% of online players in beds
- Disabled chat verification enforcement server-side. You need to install a mod to disable it client side if you're afraid of the chat reporting system.
- Disabled mob griefing
- Installed a fast leaf decay plugin
- Upped from 20 to 32 player slots (we hit 20/20 today!)
- Created a site to get build access (You can use
/nonickin game to revert this - and/realnameto reveal the Minecraft account name for another player with a nickname)
Would it be possible to add No Chat Reports to the server?
I'm wary to chat on servers without it since any bad actor can take a message out of context and get you globally banned from ever using multiplayer again.
Not that I'm saying I expect bad actors to be on the server, but it's better safe than sorry given how incredibly broken Microjang's reporting system is.
Thanks for setting this up btw, I've been trying to find a good server to join.
If the server isn't whitelisted, all it takes is one bad actor who could very well not even be a Tildes member. If No Chat Reports is added, I'll consider joining. Otherwise, it's just too much risk for an account I made all the way back in 2010, when the EULA looked very different.
I disabled "secure profiles" server-side. You can disable chat signing in your client and won't be able to be reported.
Yeah I can add that! We should not need that functionality.
Yes! My minecraft username is
froggycakefor anyone who wants to join us!Feel free to come and make a house, work on a public project, or help contribute to the community feel of the village!
There's a pretty nice place for a small lighthouse at 650/-180, does anyone mind if build it?
Looks like a good place to me!
Go for it
I'm more of a modded minecraft kinda gal. If you ever decide to branch outwards to those kinds of servers include me in the memo! There are so many good packs these days.
Same, I at least enjoy having a few basic plugins like towny, mcmmo, etc just to keep things interesting
I'm trying to keep things simpler if possible. How much interest is there in towny or mcmmo?
In my experience, this is the way. In almost anything, but especially trying to run a Minecraft server in your free time. McMMO is neat, but without fail, I swear to you, people will immediately just start grinding the various skills to make the core game easier. So then it becomes this weird balancing act, and just meh.
Towny is definitely neat but ultimately unnecessary, and is just another way for people to "game" the existing system. Save up whatever currency is being used (that's another thing, fuck balancing an economy, it's not exactly simple) and then prevent mobs from spawning, as opposed to having to light up your town. It's neat to pass over a tile and have a pop-up saying "Welcome to so-and-so town!" but again, ultimately unnecessary and just more work for you.
IMHO, some basic admin plugins like Essentials (believe it's been forked to EssentialsX these days), CoreProtect, LuckPerms, LWC, and a backup system are all you really need, the rest is just getting lost in the sauce.
EssentialsX isn't up to date yet. I'll look into LWC and automated backups.
Ah darn, I hadn't checked. Thankfully LWC is up to date, though honestly I doubt many people here would be rifling through chests. Server Essentials is an alternative, just as a means to set spawn and such. Not trying to tell you how to run this at all either btw! Just some things I've run across in my own experience that I thought could be helpful.
Don't worry! I like to get free advice - the bad stuff is easy enough to ignore. But yours has been good so far.
Though I am unlikely to play on the server I still feel I should offer input as a (previously) heavy Minecraft player.
I find that Towny or mcmmo work best on faction servers and the like, less on community servers. Adding simpler plugins like allowing people to claim plots of land for simple reasons like land protection and a hud popup when you enter their claims is all I'd really recommend.
Of course, if people who are playing want those kinds of plugins, who am I to say. I believe in separating the vanilla (or vanilla+) kind of servers from modded/plugin servers.
I'm with you on that. I enjoy minecraft, but I enjoy modded minecraft a lot more. My friends have worked together to run kitchen sink style servers ever since 1.3.2. With random spurts of revisiting pixelmon. If tildes ever branches out to a modded server I'm there.
Everyone I've talked with on the server so far has been awesome! Good vibes all around and a couple little huts. Humble beginnings.
How about adding the Vivecraft plugin to allow VR players to interact with each other? I know the VR market isn't that big, but it'd be cool. It really doesn't hurt vanilla players, nor does it affect server performance, so I only see pluses
I’ll look into it. Thanks for the recommendation!
Done
Thank you! Now I just have to wait for the QuestCraft developers to fix the radial menu before I can play on 1.20 :P
I've got a Quest 2 that's been sitting in the case for months. I had no idea there was a minecraft port. Looks like I've got a reason to dust that thing off!
It's great, except for the whole 1.20 being a bit broken thing (1.19.3 and 1.18.2 work well, though). The port is fantastic, it uses the PC mod Vivecraft for its VR features so it works really well as a VR game, with actual interactivity in-game with motion controls. Performance leaves a LOT to be desired. It currently runs at around 25-35fps on the lowest settings. The devs are working on porting VulkanMod which, you know, lets you run Minecraft in Vulkan. They say that'll hopefully get it to around 60fps which is a lot more playable. For now, if you're fine with low framerates in VR (which can be a bit tough on the stomach), it makes Minecraft one of the best VR games on standalone Quest. If you've got a PC capable of VR, you should use that to play Vivecraft instead. Let that 120hz Quest 2 display run wild!
...however, I don't, so I'll be content with my 30fps experience.
Honestly, if you want more reasons to play on your Quest, go through Sidequest. There's a lot of new fresh games/apps on Quest you wouldn't find on the store. There's also emulators (PPSSPP, for example), ports (Jedi Knight 2, Doom, Doom 3, Half-Life) and other stuff too
Hey everyone! Some people wanted a way to have their Tildes name show in game. I made a little web page that will synchronize the two!
https://verify.tildes.nore.gg
If we ever need to this page could also be a way to gain access to block placement and destruction.
Neat ! I’m curious how this works behind the scenes. It’s part of a MC plug-in?
Nope! Here’s the code: https://github.com/danthedaniel/tildes-mc-nickname/tree/main/src/pages
It uses Minecraft’s built in remote console service.
It’s not the most secure or best designed. It’s more of a Tildes username application service than it is a two way verification. But I trust that Tildes users won’t abuse this as it’s very easy to assign blame.
Been a while since I played on a server with anyone but a few close friends, I may hop on at some point.
Yea, last time I did it was an anarchy server, so a very different vibe. I'm actually quite interested in this! Hope some people don't ruin it.
tea scaring the crap out of me in the mines
https://imgur.com/a/AVdtJG7
Boo
I was able to connect from Bedrock on my Xbox!
I had to set up BedrockConnect (thanks @swchr!) on my laptop because the public DNSs weren't working (this tutorial on youtube was super easy to follow) and then I just followed this guide to connect via GeyserConnect. Important note, it's geyserconnect.net now, not .gq
Also important note, you need a Java account in order to play
OP, could you add this to the main body for anyone else wanting to play from their game console?
Sure I’ll add it! I think @cfabbro wanted this as well.
Ah, thanks for the ping, teaearlgraycold. And thanks @Starman2112 and @swchr for the info/guides. I will give that a try this weekend so I can actually play on my Switch. For now though, I just caved and downloaded the Java version on my PC again. ;)
Hey, glad to hear it worked for you! Sorry for leaving the Java part out, I wrote that comment in a hurry :P
Actually, I believe @teaearlgraycold could install a plugin called Floodgate that allows Bedrock players to join an online-mode (i.e. not cracked/requires authentication) server without having a Java account. It's something that goes along with the aforementioned Geyser plugin. That's a potential solution for anyone who wants to play from Bedrock without a Java account. The one con is that, say someone wants to play on both Bedrock and Java, now in this situation, with Floodgate, both would be treated as separate accounts, so they wouldn't sync. Other than that, it's a good solution if we ever have a member of the community who wants to join, who doesn't have a Java account.
It seems like something that significantly complicates the server so I'm leaning against official support. Bedrock and Java are not in sync feature wise.
Yeah, thought so. It is a pain in the ass to manage these servers sometimes, so I understand why. Thanks anyway, you've put a lot of effort into it so far :)
Enjoyed talking a bit with you while we gamed! Look forward to seeing you tomorrow night hopefully.
Recently logged in, had a blast playing for the first time in quite a while! So much has changed, it's like I'm learning to play a whole new game.
Opinionated quick-start guide for my fellow boomers who haven't touched the game in a long time, and want privacy + performance with minimal effort:
Use MultiMC as your launcher - https://multimc.org/
Use modrinth.com to pull the follwing mods, and install them under the "Loader Mods" section of your MultiMC instance
Should have you up in running in <15 minutes. Happy gaming & see you online!
For ease of setup. Prism launcher is better imo since for one reason it can automate mod/modpack installs (Fabulously Optimized has every one of these mods plus more optimizations than this manual setup), plus Prism allows installing mods from the launcher itself, no need to do it manually.
Steps are similar:
This should get you everything from above including Fabric (loader) and Fabric api (except Xaero's) but automatically and way faster, plus it'll let you update your mods automatically instead of by hand. At this point you're ready to play.
If you want to add optional mods, it's super easy:
Side note: there's really no reason you should have to set your java flags manually like stated above, 4GB is the default, even in MultiMC iirc. This is a vanilla server so I'm not even sure how you can exceed the 4GB to be honest, even with shaders and a 32x resource pack I don't exceed 4GB of memory.
I hope nobody sees this as disparaging the guide above, it's a good guide and will work fine but I think I can improve it for most people, especially for less-technical people, and make it more future-proof.
Good advice on the whole, but re: memory settings, the -Xms default for MultiMC at least was 1G. Pinning -Xmx and -Xms together is a classic performance hack for the JVM to avoid OS-level allocations and deallocations.
I've got this Minecraft memory/GC guide saved that also mentions it: https://github.com/brucethemoose/Minecraft-Performance-Flags-Benchmarks
Makes sense, wasn't aware of that trick.
Thanks for the guide.
I think it's possible to export a MultiMC config. If I'm remembering correctly you could just upload that for others to download with everything set up.
Thanks for the guide!
Thanks for the suggestion! Here's the totally-untested export: https://envs.sh/d7C.1.zip
(Obligatory warning that installing from the links above is much more secure than trusting my random zip - but it's here for whoever wants it.)
Masa's mods are also essential. I can't imagine playing without tweakeroo, minihud and litematica.
just got a cool screenshot
On the outskirts of Tilde Town...
Here's Tilde Town at night
I can see my house from here!
The dolphin jumping! chef's kiss
Is there any way to play on this server from a Bedrock client? I ask because I often play Minecraft while sitting on my back porch, using my Switch or iPad.
Edit: Apparently it can be done but GeyserMC needs to be set up for the server. Any chance you would be willing to do that, @teaearlgraycold?
If it's possible to play it from my Xbox, this would actually pull me back into the game. I love flying around the End collecting elytras and shulkers, and having a server full of people would actually make all of those useful!
Oh man, I know how you feel. A couple weeks ago I set up a private server, had a couple of friends join, burned my way to the End and farmed up 6 sets of elytra and a dozen shulker boxes... and then nobody else logged in again.
Usually when I set up a server like that for friends its with the explicit expectation that we'll throw it away after a week. Nothing wrong with only playing a game for one week.
There's a thing called BedrockConnect, which is basically a DNS server you put into your network settings that then directs you from any server on the multiplayer list to an IP selector, in which you'd type the IP of the Bedrock server you want to join. In this case, you'd be putting in the IP of the server where the GeyserMC plugin is hosted. I've done this before, and it works very well.
I'll look into it. I'm surprised it works with the newest version.
Thanks. It would be much appreciated if you can manage it, since I rarely play on PC anymore ever since I got my Switch.
GeyserMC is pretty magic. When I last set it up installation was straightforward, https://mcsrvstat.us was very helpful in debugging though.
I was able to get this working on my Xbox, I assume it would work the same for Switch! You do still need a Java account, though
https://tildes.net/~games/18qt/tildes_minecraft_server_launch_java_edition_smp#comment-9xko
I'll join the current server because that's where the peeps are rn, but just wanted to give a +1 for a mobs disabled server. I don't have an issue with creative mode, but I definitely prefer no-creepers-to-blow-my-crap-up over standard survival mode. Just leaving this here in case of that groundswell ;)
Hostile mobs are pretty important for a lot of gameplay mechanics (eg. farming bonemeal, crafting TNT, finding ender pearl, experience grinding). You might consider disabling
mobGriefingas a compromise, or of course adjusting the difficulty.That said, I also think if you give it a chance, you'll get used to the combat. The mobs AI is quite predictable, so you will quickly become adept at dispensing with zombies and even skeletons. Remember to craft a shield!
I have no problem with mobs, but I honestly hate the combat of this game, I always play with Better Combat when I can.
But for people who hate the combat I'd recommend the client side mods T6 Auto Attack which lets you just hold down the button and it'll attack automatically once it fully charges, SwingThrough swing through which lets you attack things through grass which should really just be considered a vanilla bug, and Custom Crosshair which turns red when an enemy is in range and grows in size when you attack and then shrinks to normal to indicate that the attack is charged again. Plus it's customizable.
There's a player village in the current server, so if you'd prefer to avoid mobs that's probably where you want to be.
I'm familiar with it ;) and it's a great town, deff recommend anyone reading this to come join!
I've missed a community based server. I was a mod on a small server for a while in college. This is so nice, thanks for starting it up. I'm StarlightSonnata in Minecraft see you serverside.
Just a heads up, I grabbed the community set of wings to go get my own last night and I'm not really sure what happened, but I was mid-flight between End islands and fell into the void and lost the wings :( I couldn't re-engage the wings mid-flight and my fireworks weren't helping. Big ooops on my part.
Working on contributing more to the community chest with non-End materials to make up for it. Sorry about that, everyone.
I had never heard of wings in Minecraft before this comment :^) Are these the ones ? I searched “minecraft wings” and just found this and some mods.
Yep, those are the ones. I can never remember the name "Elytra", so "wings" it is :P
Yep, those are the ones.
Super excited. Logged in earlier but had to go. Username: Herven. I would be totally up for some UHC or similar.
If we could add One Sleep/All Sleep I would love it (especially since I haven't found a third sheep yet...!)
I changed the
playersSleepingPercentagegame rule to5150%. That should be good enough and adds no extra code.Oh hey, it's been literally ages since I've played Minecraft in any capacity but I might join and hang around for a bit, but I'm not super creative or anything, just saying.
There's an XP farm in town that should make enchanting easy.
If my keyboard wasn't broken (shift and ctrl are kinda useful to have in Minecraft i find) I'd definitely drop by. I could definitely use some calm vanilla-adjacent Minecraft lately.
Need a new keyboard? I've got a couple of full size Corsair K70 RGB's with cherry red switches laying around that I haven't had luck selling if you're interested. Just cover shipping and one's yours.
I don't know where you are but I kinda think the shipping here (Turkey) would cost just as much as me getting something new (or more likely finding someone willing to try repairing this one).
Ahh, good call. I'm in the US. Shipping would cost quite a bit.
Could rebinding the keys be an option? It's been a few years since I played MC on PC, so I'm not sure if it's a viable solution
That is an option but I'm too used to the default keybinds to change :p
I might try messing around with different keybinds until I find a new keyboard (or somehow manage to repair this one), but in a moment of panic I absolutely will press shift and just run off the edge off a cliff like an idiot.
I can't imagine how insane it would make me to use a keyboard without the Shift and Ctrl keys working. I respect your dedication. Probably a good idea to have a spare cheap basic keyboard around as a backup though 😄
I've been using the right ctrl and right shift for typing, but those are pretty hard to use in conjunction with a mouse, so I've effectively haven't been able to play any games that don't support controllers.
If you install MidnightControls you can use a controller to play
I tried both MidnightControl and Controlify and both of them didn't quite work right (probably because of Flatpak). Right now I just rebound shift to a mouse side button and am using the ol' reliable "double tap W to sprint" method instead of ctrl.
Well whatever works.
I'm using the Prism launcher flatpak with MidnightControls and a USB xbox controller and it works just fine for me so that's weird.
I specifically use MidnightControls since it allows you to disable double tap w even on keyboard lol.
Took a panorama screenshot and made it into a texture pack, Here's a screenshot of it and here's a download.
That’s flippin’ awesome !
149 mods????
I have like 40 i think idk why it says 149
Quilt (and Fabric) have the concept of "jar-in-jar mods" which, as you can probably guess from the name, means mods can have their dependencies baked in their jar files, allowing for code reuse and easy installation at the same time (the downside being extra disk space use and weird version resolution logic)
Also I'm pretty sure the Fabric API (and the Quilt port of it) is like 50 mods in a trench coat.
Dependencies strike again !
Just joined in!
Thanks for posting this! I hopped in over lunch and am looking forward to building something neat!
I’ll be playing tonight around 9 EST. In game name is same as tildes name.
Hey can we have an optional server wide resource pack? Just some cool tweaks that wouldn't actually change the way we play necessarily, but just stuff that makes builds look cool? I know Millions on the server made a panorama of Tildes Town, so it'd be cool to add that, too.
I've started a list of my suggestions on PlanetMinecraft.com: https://www.planetminecraft.com/collection/202950/tildes-smp/
If we have a pack that the server sends you clients will it be available on the Home Screen?
You mean, when not logged in to the server? No, unless you've already got it installed on your client. When logged in, however, the server will ask the player whether they want to use the resource pack or not, and it'll remember their choice. I don't think it's very necessary because everyone has different tastes. I use VanillaTweaks because it's a fantastic resource pack with great, well, tweaks. Others like the classic resource pack, others like good ol' Faithful. I just don't see the point in setting a server resource pack.
Glad to help. <3
Kudos to you for all the infrastructure you've built for the server and for being a lovely person as well.
-Positive (+)
I can confirm @Positive is pretty cool!
Thanks for the kind words :)
You're all pretty awesome too!
I just joined the server !
Welcome to the club!
Oh! I might drop by this week end! I've never been on a multiplayer world (except a lan world with sisters).
User name should be bartiméus.
PvP acceptable?
Main rule is don’t be a dick. So only PvP if you know both parties are into that.
Personally I like the survival style. You only really treasure what can be lost kind of thing (Dw I get this isn’t that)
We could make PvP opt in as an alternative
Maybe just mark a physical pvp zone or something, I would prefer this not become an MMO where player interactions barely resemble minecraft and you just like phase through people while punching them or something until they accept a pvp request.
And I say this as someone who is bad at the combat.
"Don't be a dick" and backups to prevent griefers should be enough imo.
I think a system where new players start as read-only (like on Tildes) would work. A mod/admin could whitelist them.
Building a colosseum where people can duel for the entertainment of others could be a fun project.
That would be cool, and people could bet resources on the winner as a fun minigame.
I can't send messages because the chat report stuff is on, can you disable that?
Done
No whitelist. But that error sounds like your Minecraft launcher didn't authenticate your account with Mojang. Are you using the official launcher?
Nope, using XMCL. I'm having issues downloading the game with the official launcher. Before you ask, yes I do own the game.
Edit: Managed to get it working. Had to change DNS, disable IPv6 and now the game downloads on the official launcher, completely absurd. Microsoft's incompetence never stops astounding me.
3rd party launchers should be able to do the job. But that's still where I assume the problem is. Can you log into any servers?
Never heard of XMCL but I'd recommend Prism if it's giving you grief.
Yeah, I switched to Prism. Thanks.
I am getting "You are not whitelisted on this server" when I am trying to join. How do you apply for a whitelist?
You shouldn’t get that message on the survival server. Can you try messaging @Bauke here on Tildes? I’m not available to give access right now.
I enabled it earlier after some random people joined. I'll disable it now and I've also added Twist to it for in the future. :)
Hey dude can you make the server cracked?
There's no intention to ever do that. Is there any reason other than not owning the game?
I have lost $65 (AUD) to Mojangs site going down 2 times when I attempted to purchase the game and another time the email being unrecoverable. I'm not giving them another cent. They charged me every time and refused to refund me.
Have you tried getting your bank involved? Tell them you didn't receive the item you purchased, twice now. Maybe they can help.
Can it please be made cracked?