Clusterfuck: The Movie. I mean whatever I'm going to watch it, and I've got some catching up to do (Loki Season 2, Fantastic 4, and Black Panther 2, at least). But it just seems like they're...
Clusterfuck: The Movie.
I mean whatever I'm going to watch it, and I've got some catching up to do (Loki Season 2, Fantastic 4, and Black Panther 2, at least). But it just seems like they're trying to halfassedly recapture the glory of End Game with big dramatic reveals and team ups that don't have a third of the build up that IF/EG had.
It's culturally relevant. I'm personally not committed to seeing it, but I do think staying in the loop with major releases and events is a valid reason to participate even if you have low...
It's culturally relevant.
I'm personally not committed to seeing it, but I do think staying in the loop with major releases and events is a valid reason to participate even if you have low expectations or dislike something. It's also valid to not care to, but I don't fault anyone for either.
Is it though? I haven't bothered with anything MCU since Endgame and even then it was only movies, none of the shows, and since I'm not in any circles that are specific to the MCU I've seen little...
It's culturally relevant.
Is it though? I haven't bothered with anything MCU since Endgame and even then it was only movies, none of the shows, and since I'm not in any circles that are specific to the MCU I've seen little to nothing of it outside of something like the occasional random branding like Captain America Oranges.
Well I can only speak for my area, but I have a massive theatre near me and all of the showtimes are nearly sold out with only a couple handicap spots available. I do think that more people are...
Well I can only speak for my area, but I have a massive theatre near me and all of the showtimes are nearly sold out with only a couple handicap spots available.
I do think that more people are skipping out on Marvel films than they had previously, but it is still massive.
Half-assed clusterfucks are entertaining. edit: less jokey answer is that I'm invested in this property/universe. Even when I've felt that it's taken a misstep I've found some enjoyment in it. I...
Half-assed clusterfucks are entertaining.
edit: less jokey answer is that I'm invested in this property/universe. Even when I've felt that it's taken a misstep I've found some enjoyment in it. I enjoy the lore a lot and would like to see where the overarching storyline goes, even though it routinely missteps. And lastly I enjoy this stuff. It's fun to watch the fanbase go nuts trying to conspiracy theory their way to some conclusion because of something in the background. It's fun to buy into that crazy shit and how it means the next movie's gonna feature Mafisto or something. It's goofy, it's cringy, but it's fun
Gotcha. I took your response to mean - "This is going to suck, but I'm committed to watching it for some reason and will also watch nearly 10 hours of other possibly half-assed clusterfuck media...
Gotcha. I took your response to mean - "This is going to suck, but I'm committed to watching it for some reason and will also watch nearly 10 hours of other possibly half-assed clusterfuck media to know all the references and characters before watching this movie." - and was curious why you'd dedicate so much time to something you're not expecting to enjoy. All moot since that was not the impression you meant.
It's still probably better than a lot of action movies? The bar for this used to be Transformers 45 or whatever. I might personally skip it, but I might not because there's still some people...
It's still probably better than a lot of action movies? The bar for this used to be Transformers 45 or whatever. I might personally skip it, but I might not because there's still some people trying to do this right rather than phone it in.
I can't speak to the others, but Loki S02 was really good. I wish Marvel would take a break, do a Dazzler movie with Taylor Swift, take another break, then come back with something fresh.
I can't speak to the others, but Loki S02 was really good.
I wish Marvel would take a break, do a Dazzler movie with Taylor Swift, take another break, then come back with something fresh.
This has me whelmed. It's a superhero movie that I won't bother to go to the cinema for. I'll watch it on my 15.6" screen. That's the extent of my interest. I just don't feel anything here. It's...
This has me whelmed. It's a superhero movie that I won't bother to go to the cinema for. I'll watch it on my 15.6" screen. That's the extent of my interest. I just don't feel anything here. It's as if they are gaslighting the audience into feeling emotions that aren't there.
I know for sure that they will not be able to level it to the level of the Infinity War (will be super happy to be wrong), but it can be entertaining. I enjoyed latest Fantastic Four, Deadpool &...
I know for sure that they will not be able to level it to the level of the Infinity War (will be super happy to be wrong), but it can be entertaining.
I enjoyed latest Fantastic Four, Deadpool & Wolverine so... I hope it will be interesting.
It really was surprising that First Steps was good, wasn't it? I feel that a lot of this "phase" of marvel seems to be either creatively neutered or created as a cynical cash grab, but I really...
It really was surprising that First Steps was good, wasn't it? I feel that a lot of this "phase" of marvel seems to be either creatively neutered or created as a cynical cash grab, but I really felt like everyone in that movie was well invested into it.
I also found myself really liking Wonder Man, but I highly doubt that Doomsday is going to be an introspective character exploration.
Edit: I actually take this back. There's been good ones. I enjoyed Thunderbolts*.
I still couldnt possibly hazard a guess at what the plot is supposed to be based on this. The thing with Doom catching Thor's attack with 2 fingers was sort of unexpected. I know he has power...
I still couldnt possibly hazard a guess at what the plot is supposed to be based on this.
The thing with Doom catching Thor's attack with 2 fingers was sort of unexpected. I know he has power armor but I dont tend to think of him as physically that powerful, its usually magic and technology stuff. For a second there I almost thought he was about to do a Naruto jutsu.
Feel like that's my big issue. Who the fuck knows the state of the current marvel universe? Is Galactus coming and doom is preparing them? It would've made sense for it to be Doom being the bitter...
I still couldnt possibly hazard a guess at what the plot is supposed to be based on this.
Feel like that's my big issue.
Who the fuck knows the state of the current marvel universe? Is Galactus coming and doom is preparing them? It would've made sense for it to be Doom being the bitter pill to help deal with Kang, but that can't happen for obvious reasons.
They KNOW most people are in the same boat as me, and all I know is that RDJ is behind that doom mask, which also spoils what is likely part of the twist.
It's a shame that they had something so special and seem to be collapsing into a whimper. Maybe it'll pull it off, but at this rate I doubt it.
Its hilarious that the big mic drop moment of this trailer is the reveal that, yes, they also brought Chris Evans back. I guess the only one who is really for sure dead is Black Widow.
Its hilarious that the big mic drop moment of this trailer is the reveal that, yes, they also brought Chris Evans back.
I guess the only one who is really for sure dead is Black Widow.
My assumption is this film is meant to be a sendoff to the current MCU and the Sony X-Men universe so they can reboot it all and pivot into making some new X-Men and Spider-Man films, and let...
My assumption is this film is meant to be a sendoff to the current MCU and the Sony X-Men universe so they can reboot it all and pivot into making some new X-Men and Spider-Man films, and let Avengers rest for awhile.
Since Secret Wars is supposed to be a sort of collision of universes, and they already have teased at something like that with Deadpool 3 and the last couple of Spider-Man films drawing attention to "Earth-616," I wouldn't be surprised if something cataclysmic happened.
I also wouldn't be surprised if the imminent new Spider-Man film had some important setup for this. Especially given it's the first in a planned trilogy of new Spider-Man films, and the previous one pushed a big old reset button on Spider-Man being connected in any way to the Avengers.
I’ve kept up enough with the MCU since Endgame that I’m looking forward to this. It’s overstuffed (as most comic book events are), but the Russo’s always manage to pull it off.
I’ve kept up enough with the MCU since Endgame that I’m looking forward to this. It’s overstuffed (as most comic book events are), but the Russo’s always manage to pull it off.
Yeah I need to catch up on a couple of things - haven't seen Thunderbolts*, the new Fantastic 4, or Loki S2 - but honestly I'm not mad at this trailer. It actually kinda got me interested. It's...
Yeah I need to catch up on a couple of things - haven't seen Thunderbolts*, the new Fantastic 4, or Loki S2 - but honestly I'm not mad at this trailer. It actually kinda got me interested. It's gonna be stupid but I like the MCU's particular brand of stupid.
Why did they announce who would be in this like 6 months back? I don't understand, besides quelling investors, why they needed to reveal a actor's name prior to this. I feel like this trailer...
Why did they announce who would be in this like 6 months back? I don't understand, besides quelling investors, why they needed to reveal a actor's name prior to this. I feel like this trailer would have hit far differently if no one knew who Doom was played by and wasn't expecting Rogers to come back. Right now it just feels like we're checking off boxes of expected characters.
Because they want people to show up in droves and adding in Chris Evans would get them more butts in seats. Not saying anything and then waiting for the trailer would be pretty bad marketing ngl
Because they want people to show up in droves and adding in Chris Evans would get them more butts in seats.
Not saying anything and then waiting for the trailer would be pretty bad marketing ngl
Because you can't win anything unless you risk it all, here are more unsolicited, wild predictions to add to the heap of previously mentioned predictions that I'm staking my nerd cred on: The...
Because you can't win anything unless you risk it all, here are more unsolicited, wild predictions to add to the heap of previously mentioned predictions that I'm staking my nerd cred on:
The Thunderbolts? Barely an inconvenience: So, if you haven't heard, there was a whole movie that explained the lovable, ragtag scamps called The Thunderbolts are the new Avengers, setting the stage for a showdown. I'm predicting this issue will barely be mentioned in the final film. It will be resolved off-screen or in a single line of dialog. The Russos don't care, you don't care, but I will miss John Walker, an asshole true to his heart.
Self-referential reverence: Avengers movies mark the end of an era. It's natural for such a tent-pole movie to look back at the road that led to it. For this movie, there was very little lead up, but that won't stop the Russo who will cram it full of references to prior Marvel movies. My longshot prediction is that the Russos are snobs and will choose to reference only the most important Marvel movies: the ones they made. So expect nods to the last two Avengers movies and Captain America's second solo movie.
Subverting the subversion: It is a cliche by this point -- a moment of lividity will be broken up by a snide, self-aware remark (I think done to perfect by the 2nd Guardians "Look at us standing in a circle" speech). The Russos know this, and will fake us out by doing a dramatic scene for real... but with many pregnant pauses, trolling the audience that the 4th wall will be broken, but it won't.
Fan service for the infamishable: Marvel is parked so far back in the doghouse that they know they have got to give fans what they want. Like how the Spider-Man pointing meme made its way into No Way Home, there are going to copious amount of fan service in this movie. Hulk doesn't bust out of the Hulkbuster? He will here. "Avengers Assemble" doesn't get spoken enough? It will be said not once, not twice, but three times here (not by the same person, like one of them will be Doctor Doom).
Impossible longshot so I'm just going to say it: There is one huge thing that has been missing from the MCU. I think it will appear sooner than later, but I don't see how it will fit into this movie. It's most likely (I think) to show up in the Spider-Man movie following this year's. And that's Uncle Ben. The MCU Spider-Man was an underdeveloped hero for the longest time. He really only reached the level of Sam Raimi's Spider-Man by No Way Home. This is because the MCU didn't fully become Spider-Man until he gets told "with great power comes great responsibility". This line has always been Uncle Ben's, but since this gets attributed to Aunt May in the MCU, Uncle Ben becomes a unnecessary character. This will change when his character finally gets introduced. I don't think in this movie, but if it does, he won't say much, just wiggle his eyebrows as Peter Parker's Spider-Sense confirms his identity as true. But because the stakes are so high, I have a hunch Uncle Ben will get introduced in this movie.
I haven't seen any of the MCU movies since Love and Thunder, feels pretty unlikely I'll see this one either. But we'll always have that build up to Endgame across all the Marvel movies from...
I haven't seen any of the MCU movies since Love and Thunder, feels pretty unlikely I'll see this one either.
But we'll always have that build up to Endgame across all the Marvel movies from 2008-2019 which was fun to experience at the time. I do wonder how long they'll try to keep this series alive without giving it some significant time off.
Clusterfuck: The Movie.
I mean whatever I'm going to watch it, and I've got some catching up to do (Loki Season 2, Fantastic 4, and Black Panther 2, at least). But it just seems like they're trying to halfassedly recapture the glory of End Game with big dramatic reveals and team ups that don't have a third of the build up that IF/EG had.
But again, whatever, I'm going to watch it.
If you know it's half-assed and a clusterfuck, why watch it?
It's culturally relevant.
I'm personally not committed to seeing it, but I do think staying in the loop with major releases and events is a valid reason to participate even if you have low expectations or dislike something. It's also valid to not care to, but I don't fault anyone for either.
Is it though? I haven't bothered with anything MCU since Endgame and even then it was only movies, none of the shows, and since I'm not in any circles that are specific to the MCU I've seen little to nothing of it outside of something like the occasional random branding like Captain America Oranges.
Well I can only speak for my area, but I have a massive theatre near me and all of the showtimes are nearly sold out with only a couple handicap spots available.
I do think that more people are skipping out on Marvel films than they had previously, but it is still massive.
Half-assed clusterfucks are entertaining.
edit: less jokey answer is that I'm invested in this property/universe. Even when I've felt that it's taken a misstep I've found some enjoyment in it. I enjoy the lore a lot and would like to see where the overarching storyline goes, even though it routinely missteps. And lastly I enjoy this stuff. It's fun to watch the fanbase go nuts trying to conspiracy theory their way to some conclusion because of something in the background. It's fun to buy into that crazy shit and how it means the next movie's gonna feature Mafisto or something. It's goofy, it's cringy, but it's fun
Gotcha. I took your response to mean - "This is going to suck, but I'm committed to watching it for some reason and will also watch nearly 10 hours of other possibly half-assed clusterfuck media to know all the references and characters before watching this movie." - and was curious why you'd dedicate so much time to something you're not expecting to enjoy. All moot since that was not the impression you meant.
It's still probably better than a lot of action movies? The bar for this used to be Transformers 45 or whatever. I might personally skip it, but I might not because there's still some people trying to do this right rather than phone it in.
When it’s 90 F out sometimes you want to touch grass (metaphorically) somewhere with AC, and it’s an excuse to go to the movies.
You don't need an excuse to go to the theatre, there's always something to watch.
I can't speak to the others, but Loki S02 was really good.
I wish Marvel would take a break, do a Dazzler movie with Taylor Swift, take another break, then come back with something fresh.
This has me whelmed. It's a superhero movie that I won't bother to go to the cinema for. I'll watch it on my 15.6" screen. That's the extent of my interest. I just don't feel anything here. It's as if they are gaslighting the audience into feeling emotions that aren't there.
I know for sure that they will not be able to level it to the level of the Infinity War (will be super happy to be wrong), but it can be entertaining.
I enjoyed latest Fantastic Four, Deadpool & Wolverine so... I hope it will be interesting.
It really was surprising that First Steps was good, wasn't it? I feel that a lot of this "phase" of marvel seems to be either creatively neutered or created as a cynical cash grab, but I really felt like everyone in that movie was well invested into it.
I also found myself really liking Wonder Man, but I highly doubt that Doomsday is going to be an introspective character exploration.
Edit: I actually take this back. There's been good ones. I enjoyed Thunderbolts*.
I still couldnt possibly hazard a guess at what the plot is supposed to be based on this.
The thing with Doom catching Thor's attack with 2 fingers was sort of unexpected. I know he has power armor but I dont tend to think of him as physically that powerful, its usually magic and technology stuff. For a second there I almost thought he was about to do a Naruto jutsu.
Feel like that's my big issue.
Who the fuck knows the state of the current marvel universe? Is Galactus coming and doom is preparing them? It would've made sense for it to be Doom being the bitter pill to help deal with Kang, but that can't happen for obvious reasons.
They KNOW most people are in the same boat as me, and all I know is that RDJ is behind that doom mask, which also spoils what is likely part of the twist.
It's a shame that they had something so special and seem to be collapsing into a whimper. Maybe it'll pull it off, but at this rate I doubt it.
Its hilarious that the big mic drop moment of this trailer is the reveal that, yes, they also brought Chris Evans back.
I guess the only one who is really for sure dead is Black Widow.
No character moment will ever match the excitement I felt when Starfox appeared in the Mario movie
Marvel movie construction committee: Starfox is now in Avengers Doomsday.
Doesn't Marvel actually have a Starfox they could use
My assumption is this film is meant to be a sendoff to the current MCU and the Sony X-Men universe so they can reboot it all and pivot into making some new X-Men and Spider-Man films, and let Avengers rest for awhile.
Since Secret Wars is supposed to be a sort of collision of universes, and they already have teased at something like that with Deadpool 3 and the last couple of Spider-Man films drawing attention to "Earth-616," I wouldn't be surprised if something cataclysmic happened.
I also wouldn't be surprised if the imminent new Spider-Man film had some important setup for this. Especially given it's the first in a planned trilogy of new Spider-Man films, and the previous one pushed a big old reset button on Spider-Man being connected in any way to the Avengers.
I’ve kept up enough with the MCU since Endgame that I’m looking forward to this. It’s overstuffed (as most comic book events are), but the Russo’s always manage to pull it off.
Yeah I need to catch up on a couple of things - haven't seen Thunderbolts*, the new Fantastic 4, or Loki S2 - but honestly I'm not mad at this trailer. It actually kinda got me interested. It's gonna be stupid but I like the MCU's particular brand of stupid.
All three of those were enjoyable watches. Not ground breaking (though Loki S2 was close), but all fun things I was glad I took the time to watch.
No. They. Do. Not.
Why did they announce who would be in this like 6 months back? I don't understand, besides quelling investors, why they needed to reveal a actor's name prior to this. I feel like this trailer would have hit far differently if no one knew who Doom was played by and wasn't expecting Rogers to come back. Right now it just feels like we're checking off boxes of expected characters.
Because they want people to show up in droves and adding in Chris Evans would get them more butts in seats.
Not saying anything and then waiting for the trailer would be pretty bad marketing ngl
Because you can't win anything unless you risk it all, here are more unsolicited, wild predictions to add to the heap of previously mentioned predictions that I'm staking my nerd cred on:
I haven't seen any of the MCU movies since Love and Thunder, feels pretty unlikely I'll see this one either.
But we'll always have that build up to Endgame across all the Marvel movies from 2008-2019 which was fun to experience at the time. I do wonder how long they'll try to keep this series alive without giving it some significant time off.
While I'm fairly neutral on the trailer, I am loving how nearly everyone here has admitted to still having some MCU homework due to Principal Iger.