Daily Tildes discussion - what missing/broken things are the most "shocking"?
Normally I've been trying to use the Monday post to do a general "what's planned for the week?", but with all the attention and unexpectedly-quick growth last week I didn't get the main thing (open-sourcing) finished anyway, so this one wouldn't be much different.
Instead, I want to ask for input on what are the current missing or broken things that are the most surprising? That is, I don't want to talk about "this would be nice" things here; I want to focus on, "Is this really not there? Am I doing something wrong?"
Here are three examples that will hopefully make it a little more clear:
- User pages currently have no pagination (should I just bump them up from 20 items to 50 or 100 for now, until they do?)
- Username mentions don't send a notification
- There's not even a basic search function
That's the level of things I want. Let me know what others are out there, I'm sure there are more. And two more quick things while I have your attention:
- We added some new groups the other day, make sure to check those out if you haven't yet.
- I've given everyone 3 invite codes, so feel free to invite some more people if you'd like to. You can get them on this page: https://tildes.net/invite
Thanks!
Agreed that search is the biggest feature that's missing, but I think finishing the open-sourcing would add a lot of dev cycles to missing features
Well, isn’t google going to perpetually do a better job than an internal search?
Or more accurately, a better job than a search that could be easily implemented?
If that's so, it seems that the majority of sites experience significant difficulty in reaching proper implementations.
Can you give an example of a site that has particularly good search?
Well, if we can get a better-than-google search I'd love to see it! A good search makes life a thousand times better.
I'd put the open sourcing as a higher priority so that extra people can be recruited to work on things like the search!
On that note, filtering by tags could be really good too, unless I haven't found how to do it.
@Deimos mentioned filtering by tags is his post titled Daily Tildes discussion - quality concerns, so it's coming soon
Agreed, and also a suggestion for similar topics when creating a new one.
Especially lately there are tons of new topics about already discussed ones.
Open-sourcing may be the biggest feature missing here, given the direction you have for the site. We have a lot of programming talent that could be useful in addressing other feature discrepancies.
Barring that, a search feature would probably be the biggest one. There are already a few repeat topics coming up that might have been avoided (along with the subsequent dilution of conversation) by use of a search
Strongly agree. Adding the ability to add features faster because of additional talent should be a higher priority than individual feature fixes.
And for open-sourcing, the most important part of that is a good review process. We need a number of people who are approved reviewers that are familiar with the code base. I know GitHub has code reviews built into their PR UI. GitLab probably does as well.
Definitely. Unreviewed (or underreviewed) code would be a nightmare. Tests and reviews are, I would assume, the bulk of the work @Deimos is doing to prepare for releasing the source.
I 100% agree about open sourcing!
This would be my first time really contributing to an open source project (always been a bit scared to try before), but there's something about the idea of helping with features for this site that has me super excited for when it's open sourced. I have a feeling a lot of other people feel similarly.
Python 3 with type annotations.
Adding something as a setting solves everything, but makes the settings page incredibly cluttered and makes it exponentially more complex to figure out bugs. I'd prefer some things were just decided.
The (somewhat) tricky part with this is that the notifications page currently removes the comments when you mark them as read. This is nice so that you don't have to scroll, you can just sit at the top and clear all your notifications by clicking in (usually) the same spot.
But if you start attaching this to replying or some other actions, how does it work? For example, does the comment disappear after you reply? What if you were planning to reply and then vote on it (or vice versa, if vote triggers it to be read). Should it just be marked read in the background, but not actually disappear from the page?
It's certainly not unsolvable or anything, just little details that aren't always straightforward.
I like the idea of separating the action into "mark read" and "clear"
The current mark read button would be changed to 'clear" and replying or voting marks the comment as read, and could reduce the opacity as a visual indicator
Here's another possible solution: add a "mark as read/unread" action to the bottom of every comment. Then you could mark replies as read without going all the way back to the notifications page. Clicking again would let you undo your mark-as-read action. You could also mark other comments as unread that you want to come back to later (even if they weren't originally replies).
I think this would fix the main problem everyone is complaining about (having to go all the way back to the notifications page to clear the flag for the comment they were just reading), would clarify the way read/unread works (by exposing it explicitly), and would make the interface more forgiving and learnable (by allowing undo).
Yeah, agreed that that makes the most sense.
@Koan @Kat I personally think it'd be best that if you interested with the notification it'd be marked as read, but easily changable. So if you click the
linkbutton, it'll toggle marked as readWhy shouldn't it be the other way around, with an option to "Mark as Unread" for each comment? That's how it works in email: by opening an email it's flagged as "read," and I have the option to change it to "unread."
I think the question of "which is more unwieldy" comes down to what you want the default to be. Having to manually designate each reply as "read" would be awful; I find it much more common to auto-mark as a batch, and only Star (or whatever) the few messages that I want to be reminded of.
I'd like it to work the way it does in the Reddit Is Fun app. Opening the notification page doesn't mark things as read, but clicking anywhere on the notification does. It's easier and more natural than having to click a small "Mark as read" button, and it means replying automatically marks the message as read.
I think a "report" button is the most urgent thing right now. My understanding is that @deimos wants to deal with this via tagging and reputation, but until that's in a report function could be useful. With invites now being given out more generally, the current system of dm'ing @deimos to report something is going to start being clunky.
Oh yea, DMing Deimos will definitely not last very long lol If that keeps up, he'll spend most of his time sifting through messages instead of working on the website
I do think a report function would be useful in the interim. That said, we should as a community make sure not to keep kicking the reputation system down the road because the report function works okay.
I'd like something like, when a person hits a threshold they get a trouble maker tag.
Markdown preview for comments and posts
Also a brief markdown guide somewhere on page when you are writing would be a good addition, provided it doesn't take too much space.
I'd be happy with a little "formatting help" link under the comment box that brought up/opened in a new tab and gave me common formatting help.
Don't forget to send the notification even when user edits and adds metion after the comment/post is created, I've seen several websites with this mechanic that didn't do that.
Could you possibly add autocomplete for usernames and tildes when someone is typing it?
And please add an option to mark as read reply when you just click on the link. Maybe do notifications in simmilar way that gmail does it with emails? Keep showing the new notifications, click on it to mark it as read and show read notifications (greyed out, below <hr/>), so people can easily get to older notifications without having to find it in menu.
I could see this getting out of hand as the community grows. Maybe limited to the people in the current comment thread or maybe post?
Reddit Enhancement Suite has user autocomplete across all Reddit users, however it prioritises the person you're replying to and then anyone else in that thread before
I'm not sure exactly what it does to look up the usernames, but it's very responsive, presumably searching the Reddit API, however it also does fuzzy matching on people in the same thread.
I think this is how it works on reddit (it may need RES).
Two things that I find the site lacking at the moment
hiding posts that I don't want to see, yet keep appearing at the top of the feed
an easy way to find unread posts in a mostly read thread, yes the marking is nice, but scrolling to find them isn't
There still not being proper moderation.
I guess it still works because of the low user count, but if growth continues at this rate, we're soon reaching numbers where things can get nasty. We're already seeing the first bans. And to be honest, I'm still skeptical about the planned automated "trust" system, especially since it still doesn't seem very fleshed out, not even on paper.
I've long been a believer in strict moderation (based on sane rulesets) to counter negative trends, not just in terms of actively dangerous things like preventing witch hunts and whatnot, but even things as simple as "only one post quoting the same news item at a time" or "do not editorialize headlines". From what I have seen, good subreddits absolutely need an organizational structure (which, for better or worse, came from the mod teams) to agree on a set of rules and how to enforce them. And Tildes currently doesn't have one, at all.
We're probably going to have to 'draft' some people to start out as the first mods by fiat while we build that out. Seems like we've got a pretty badass pool of people here to help with that.
Also, kinda all of you will be in position to be the first mods once the trust system is live. You're here first, you've been participating, that's how it goes. Tildes' current invitees are the 'core' group. :)
Not sure if everyone would want this - replying to a post doesn't automatically mark it as read.
I think you understood it backwards. They were suggesting that replying should mark it read, because it currently doesn't.
I can see tags on a post but can't click on them to see other things with the same tag.
That and interacting with replies in my notifications doesn't automatically mark them as read, so I usually have to go back to my inbox a second time to click the mark as read link after I forget.
I agree with the lack of clickable tags. I imagine they're planned, probably in conjunction with things like search and filter functions since they're sort of related. And not having them doesn't break the site. But it's a feature very common to other websites, so I can see someone being confused and thinking they just don't know how to use them.
It does break the site. Until we have subgroups, tags would be the only way to choose what you want to read.
It seems to me one of the most urgent things to fix.
~ discovery is low. I didn't realize until right now that more ~s had been created since I joined (despite posting in one today).
https://tildes.net/groups
Which you can access by clicking "Browse the list of groups" in the Home sidebar. Every new group added has been announced in the daily discussions on ~tildes (now ~tildes.official) as well but I did suggest perhaps using PMs to let people know of new groups too, since not everyone checks the site every day and so probably missed some. That could be seen as a bit annoying/spammy though so, thoughts?
I'm not sure, I've either been thinking of perhaps a cookie based setting that would say X number of tildes added since you last visited the groups page or perhaps simply have a timestamp that says the last time the groups were modified. I think having an
~allmight be helpful as well to get a view of what's going on site wide without it filtered by your own interests.Notifications for new top-level groups, or for new subgroups of groups you're subscribed to, would be pretty useful IMO. (On the other hand I strongly agree that spammy notifications are the worst, so maybe that's not such a great idea – I think it would depend on how frequently new groups get created, and potentially they should even be opt-in.)
Maybe simply putting the number of groups on the button? "Browse the list of 45 groups"
We could maybe do something to make the overall groups list a bit more visible/obvious... and maybe even some kind of update/notification when new groups are added.
Site navigation feels a bit weird on mobile. For example, when browsing a thread there's no sidebar button - I need to go through my user or the site logo. To a lesser extent, it can take some navigation to find the list of subscribed groups.
My mobile view has a sidebar button in the top right. It’s only a problem when I’m towards the bottom of a long thread, but at least I can click the top of the browser bar to quickly revert to the top.
Someday an 'open in new tab' option would be good. For example if I click on a post it can open a new tab in say, Firefox. Not a shocker or priority, just a preference here.
Also putting (Markdown) found in new post window may put some people off. I had to Google it to make sure I knew what you meant, turns out I was using it in Reddit without knowing what it was. I think somewhere they have it in a sidebar or whatever.
FYI I created a userscript that can work around the first problem for the time being.
https://tildes.net/~comp/1kp/open_external_links_on_in_new_tabs
I think one of the biggest issues right now is the default subscriptions, or lack of separation between tildes. Since currently everyone posts on all tildes, the average standard of discussion is low. I'd like to see it get replaced with an onboarding process where you can select the tildes you are interested in.
That has been discussed and will most likely be that way in the future.
I've seen that, but I still wanted to note that I think it's becoming a problem now already, sooner than expected.
To clarify, new users are subscribed to all groups besides ~test. It's presumably just existing users that haven't been auto-subscribed to new groups.
I just joined the other day, what happened to comment tags?
My gripes
No saving posts, normal bookmarks work, but this would be a nice feature within Tildes
Tagging users, privately, similiar to RES
I mentioned another RES feature, collapsing all child comments under another comment
Short/small links to posts?
Thoughts on a multiple topic view page?
Opening a direct message conversation should really move you to the most recent message, similar to how "link" in the
new repliessection brings you right to it.Those are all good suggestions, but I really wouldn't consider the lack of any of them to be "shocking".
Fair point. My bad, didn't see that part.
Comment tags were being abused so were temporarily removed until the system can be reworked.
Only thing I have found myself somewhat surprised by was the pagination on user pages. I assumed it was a design decision though. xD
What do you mean?
i mean when i go to view my profile page (or whatever it is called) I cannot see beyond X amount of posts/comments I've made. So for example, if I am trying to find a certain conversation I had, or a specific post I made, and it is too old then i won't be able to find it through that page.
I had assumed this might be intentional, that it was some attempt at increasing privacy or something - but i wasn't 100% certain about that. In this OP post, deimos mentioned user pages lacking pagination - which i assume is this situation I have described.
The site has it all stored and waiting for you, but there isn't a 'pagination' feature so you can bring up more of it yet. Planned but not implemented - welcome to 'alpha' software. :)
Just to be clear, I didn't intend to complain by making my comment - just expressing that it's the only thing I've been somewhat "shocked" (per OP - I thought surprised was a bit milder phrasing :P) isn't here. Other than that it is all quite functional - especially the load times, holy crap.
Definitely mentions and search (we see many repeated questions every day, although I know it's naive to think search would help with that).
Regarding user page pagination, I'd prefer it stayed like this until the trust system is implemented and we can set which level of trusted user can see our history. If you're going to add it for now anyway, at least make it private, so that only the user can see their own paginated history.
I don't have a problem with paginating the previously read notifications page.
Also, the warning message when leaving a page when you started writing a reply.
Edit: Saving comments and posts. Been trying to find a comment I liked. No dice.
Honestly with the way the comment pages work at the moment, I don't see a need for a specific "context" option - just scroll up :)
If this already exists somewhere I apologize...
But with all the tagging built in, why don't we have the option to filter tags? Either hide anything with a certain tag, or specifically view topics with a given tag. The main lack-of-functionality I find here versus Reddit is that the front page doesn't seem very customizable to me. Either I unsubscribe to an entire group, or I get anything and everything from it, mixed up with content I am interested in.
Tag filtering/searching is definitely coming, but it's probably not incredibly urgent yet. Most of the groups are only getting a few posts a day still.
Isn't that exactly the same as reddit?
It is, with the caveat that subreddits are much more granular than groups here. I don't have to be subscribed to /r/dnd, I can choose to only subscribe to /r/DnDBehindTheScreen. While that will get better over time as you allow subgroups here, I'm not sure you'll ever reach the level of granularity that subreddits can (while staying true to your vision about groups/subgroups and avoiding group bloat).
Yeah, I think the tag system will help a ton with that though. So you'd be subscribed to either something like ~games.dnd.dm or ~games.dnd but only showing posts with the "dm" tag (both are pretty similar conceptually, which is deliberate).
How do you plan on getting users to "standardize" tags, for lack of a better word? On reddit, it's easy to see if you're posting in an active community or not just by looking at the sub. Here, though, you'll have to manually inspect all of your tags to make sure they're "popular." An easy example would be "DnD" versus "D&D."
Probably primarily through showing information about popular/common tags and allowing other, more experienced users to edit tags - they can just re-tag posts that weren't tagged correctly.
The ability to edit tags after the fact would certainly go a long way toward that.
Also, just want to remark it's amazing how engaged you are. Despite thousands of users on the site, somehow you reply to every comment I've posted! Hopefully that energy will be enough to get Tildes off the ground.
We can teach the site that some tags are synonyms of each other. I expect the curators/editors in each group will be doing a lot of that.
LOL... Yeah, I imagine by the end of this we're going to have an absolutely massive dictionary of synonyms the likes of which Merriam-Webster would be jealous of.
Some do, but it's always via the search system or CSS, and the front page can't use either of those.
Even now that I've been here a whole 4 days (!), I still think my original post is the most annoying and most noticeable missing feature: "Clicking on a reply should mark it as "read".
Next in line is functioning tags. If we're going to bother to put tags on posts, they should have a use. (I remember having this discussion some years ago in a software project I was working on!) At the very least, I should be able to click on a tag, and see all posts with that same tag. That's the bare minimum functionality for this feature, which is currently missing.
After that, having user history limited to only 20 items is annoying. Extending that to 50 or 100 items would be a suitable short-term fix, unless pagination for a full history is easy to achieve.
No matter the priority resulting from this topic, I'd like a roadmap somewhere that we can check. @cfabbro already mentioned it several time.
I begun writing a basic web extension, just tonight, that I hope to be able to keep cross browser compatible and will provide feature that you don't want in the core of tildes. It's going to be open source but I'm waiting to have some clean working code to create a topic here.
A roadmap would help others develop around tides without overlapping features.
To answer the topic's question: a search function which endpoint can be used to also suggest for similar topics when creating a new one. After that, a bookmark/save functionality. Bonus if I can attach a reminder to it as there are things that I want to come back later and things that I just want to save.
It's definitely not complete, but there's the start of a roadmap here: https://gitlab.com/tildes/tildes/boards
What sort of features are you thinking of?
Well I'm very rusty with web extension (like years) but I'll begin by just translating what my script does (open links in new tab, button to jump to new comments) and create a basic interface to have the user decide the behaviour. Like which links you want opened in new tabs? Comments? Topics? External? Etc etc.
After I finished moving my script feature into the extension, I'll work on implementing a user tagging system like RES.
The reasoning is simple:
I don't usually care to whom I'm talking to because my focus is on the content of the comments.
But sometimes I've some users I really like discussing with and would like their username to stand out.
In the same way, sometimes I really don't get along with other users. Their viewpoint are too distant from mine or their way of exposing them is just getting me, so marking them for me only would help me know in advance if I'm going into a discussion with someone I know will be an "hard" exchange.
About the last part, I'm not really happy with the application but a later exchange I've had made me realize that I'm just human and sometimes I just cannot deal with some arguments. Instead of struggling to end up flaming I'd prefer to be reminded by a tag that I've had already a bad exchange with that user and should thread a little more carefully.
This is however a thing that is far into the future as I'll need to investigate how to store efficiently things like tags/user in the browser itself. I begun looking around but nothing fixed in stone yet.
More in general, I would like tildes core to be as lightweight as possible and have the users decide if they want additional feature to add them, knowing it will add on loading time and performance.
I'm going to host the source code and would like to have others contribute but for now that I'm still working on it, it's too soon (I think you can relate).
Best thing for me would be to be able to build the "official" plugin, something that you would include as a suggestion on the user settings maybe, instead of having to rely on words of mouth or topics posted on ~tildes.
To go back to the main point, knowing what you want to implement, even on a long time, world help me know which feature to write for the extension or when create a pull request and help tildes core's code instead :)
Hmm, most (or all?) of those sound like things we'd want to have in the site itself though - we definitely need the opening links in new tabs and better ways to navigate new comments. User tags is probably reasonable if implemented well too.
A separate extension is fine, I just don't really know if it's going to be worth working on until the site's features get more figured out and stable. Especially once the site is open-source, it would probably be better to have you helping build those things into the site instead of an extension.
Well, I like tinkering with things I don't do for work so it's not like I'm going to be sad if they're included in the core's code at some point in the future.
My main interest, since the very first mail exchange with you, has been to contribute to the main repo of tildes. I'm just doing this on the side :)
Edit: Another approach could be to use the extensions approach as a way of having "experimental features". Things that who wants can opt-in and then included in the core's code at a later point.
I'm working on a userscript too. Current features include:
maybe we can join forces? :)
https://gist.github.com/thykka/67c45d369354bed67c7780854d826e9a
Awesome, feel free to clone the repo and begin working on it. I hadn't time to write some guidelines but the structure is quite simple, just try and stick to it so we can work on it without too much conflicts in pull requests :)
I'm working to complete a settings page as soon as possible because especially with your features there could be people that don't want everything enabled by default (ex the UI changes).
Edit: Sorry I thought this was a comment to the web extension I wrote and released just yesterday. Here is a link to it: https://tildes.net/~tildes/1oa/browser_extension_tildes_extended
Oh, right. I must've still been half asleep when I read your comment. Somehow assumed you were talking about a userscript ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Still, the features I mentioned should be easy to port into your extension.
WebExtensions can be powerful, but I'm going to stick with userscripts for now. At least until the tildust has settled and it becomes more clear what extra features are actually needed.
BTW, I took a quick look and noticed you have a gulp task for building the extension. Does it also get signed this way? The last time I was building an extension, I used
web-extlike this.I've didn't delved into signing and used part of a gist I found online. It could be that the "build" also sign the extension but I'm not really sure about it.
I don't even know what/why it is. I'll give it a look, thanks :)
Edit: just checked the gist. Definitely not. I uploaded the extension manually on the chrome and Firefox markets but I didn't know of web-ext.
I'll check it out.
The comment box being at the bottom still catches me off guard. 40 comments in here already after an hour, so basically I've opened up this thread to respond to the topic of the OP and it starts off with me scroll scroll scroll scroll scroll haha.
I know this has been discussed before, and I'm used to traditional forums. But still. [EDIT] Okay okay, it's not missing. But this the most shocking thing to me currently.
Right, which would result in you (hopefully) reading the other comments on the way to see if the thing you wanted to post has already been mentioned.
Hmm. In this case, I actually CTRL+F'd for "comment" and moved on. But I guess I missed it!
There's 3500+ words in the comments currently, so reading an entire thread can be tough at times. It may just encourage me to comment less. Maybe it'll be filtering out my lower quality comments! :p
I think if someone is determined to comment then their likely action is to try to scroll faster, not slow down and read.
Annoyance-based incentives also feel like the site working against users, not for them.
Not sure if at least you get mention notifications, so linking here.
Should probably disable the submit buttons on first click event. Otherwise duplicate posts and comments are created.
Steps to reporduce
note: I still cannot activate my gitlab account, sorry
Thanks. It's already on GitLab and I know how I'll likely fix it, just haven't had a chance to do it yet.
Oh, sorry, I looked but I did not see it. Guess I did not look enough!
I'd really like to see who I invited in my sidebar. I really like that we can see who users were invited by but I invited one person and I'd really like to see if they actually joined and what their name is so I can see what they're posting.
Well, I'd prefer not to have 1500 people in my sidebar. :b
Maybe this could be on your invite page or a new separate one though. There's no way to check their name currently, but you're able to tell if they did actually join by whether the invite code you sent them is still present on https://tildes.net/invite - if they use it, the box with the code will disappear.
I said sidebar but I didn't really mean sidebar I just meant maybe on the invite page or on its own page somewhere. I was more thinking out loud. That's cool about the invite code, thanks for the information
Separating the "new messages" from inbox and automatically marking them as read when you view your new messages.
This one bugs me a lot and I constantly make the mistake of not manually marking my messages as having been read.
The lack of a blocking function or a search function are the top issues for me. The former is a pretty immediate concern for my own use and we're starting to see a lot of treading over the same topics so the latter is just standing out more and more for not being there.
I actually thought not being able to see our full comment history was intentional and I wasn't that huge of a fan of it...imo it's not that much of a priority but it'll be nice to have that.
Not exactly a specific feature, but I think the feel of comment threads is not as different from reddit as I was hoping it would be. It's definitely better than reddit, and there are a lot of great comments here. But I still feel there's plenty of room to get better and have more high effort, thoughtful posts.
In terms of what I'm not seeing, I'm not seeing a unique, distinctive voice emerging here that distinguishes the culture or way of talking from reddit. By contrast, when I'm on mastodon or hackernews, while they certainly have their own issues, have unique feels to them. There's something in the air, so to speak.
Hopefully tildes will get there in it's own way, soon. In terms of a constructive suggestion, I do think, as a firm anti-fluff, anti-repost, pro-moderation partisan, there have been lots of great posts on those subjects, so maybe deep thinking on those subjects is emerging as the voice here. I could definitely get behind that.
I think that makes sense, but keep in mind that the site's really only had a significant number of users for a little over two weeks now. I don't think you can have that much of a culture emerge that quickly.
There's definitely a ton to do, and I think once we start getting some more mechanics in place it'll move more towards that.
I clicked the logo to go back to the homepage after posting a comment, and my sort options reverted to activity - all time. I think that's a weird way to sort by default in the first place, but I was really surprised when there didn't seem to be a way to set my own default sort preferences. Per group would be ideal, but a global option is needed at least. Was very surprised that I basically have to set my sort preferences every time I finish reading a thread.
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Well, that was fast
I find it hard to explore new tildes, this may be because we don't have a variety yet, but the way the dream for Tildes was advertised I thought I'd more easily and freely able to find subgroups... then again I could be wrong and if I then ignore this.
There is only one subgroup right now ~tildes.official and you can see the entire group list here:
https://tildes.net/groups which you can access by clicking "Browse the list of groups" in the Home sidebar.
The reason there isn’t much variety of subgroups yet is because there just isn’t the user base to justify them. Having too many groups to start is partially what killed Imzy, since they wound up having 10x as many groups as users and so the vast majority remained virtually empty of content which is incredibly unappealing to new users. Better to just slowly grow the groups/subgroups as user levels can support them and interest in the subjects is shown, IMO.
All of the existing groups are listed here: https://tildes.net/groups
OH! Ok my bad, I misunderstood how things work.
It might just be me. But, is there no "reply" button at the top? Do I really have to scroll all the way to the bottom to reply? That could get annoying on long topics.
This is mostly deliberate, see here: https://tildes.net/~tildes/ov/we_gotta_move_the_comment_box_from_the_bottom_of_the_comments_to_the_top#comment-335
There are certain types of posts that encourage more top-level comments though (like introductions threads and such) where it should probably be at the top instead, along with the comments being sorted by new by default.
I really LIKE reply at the bottom! I think it makes people read the thread through before posting a new top level comment.
Adding a reply at top option for a post would cause people to use it because it feels more "familiar", not realizing that the reply at the bottom is on purpose.
Stick to your guns on this one, @Deimos !
I see, interesting design choice but it achieves it's desired effect so far. If the thread types are implemented like in introduction threads, I could see this being quite good for continuing the discussion I suppose.
Saving/Bookmarking. I have to use my browser bookmarks which is a teetering tower of forgotten "cool things".
When I come back to a thread after refreshing or something, all of the comments re-open back up and makes browsing the newest responses more hard
It's coming eventually: https://gitlab.com/tildes/tildes/issues/45
@deimos has just been a bit busy.
Awesome! I didn't even think to check the GitLab repository. I'll have to browse around there to see what's coming in the future. And yeah, I completely empathize with @deimos and his workload, it's rough enough expirencing such a rapid shift in popularity overnight.
Check your settings. There is a toggle marking new comments option that puts a nice line on the left of new comments.
There's a way to enable that though. Go to your settings and it's the fourth option :)
That's nice to have, but imo not urgent since bookmarking something in the browser can be a substitute for this.
I'm probably going to sound really silly, but where do previously read direct messages go? I can't find my conversation with @Kat!
I marked it read because I had, and then thought of something I wanted to say. But it was GONE...
Nevermind. I founds it my precioussssss
Very minor compared to the other things mentioned here, but is there a night mode/dark mode on the roadmap?
Have you checked out the Solarized Dark/Black themes in Settings?
Wow do I feel silly. Thanks! That is awesome and much better for me
I feel like the vote should be on the top row beside the time, not beside the Reply button on the bottom.
Why? After you read the comment, you're at the bottom of it.
True but for me vote count is the most important information of a comment and it makes sense to group it with the name and time on top.
Perhaps the idea is that by putting it at the bottom, people read the comment before they let the vote count bias their opinion of the comment.
Yeah, I could see that as being preferable for the greater good. But since there no downvote, is the voting before reading less problematic?
People are still more likely to agree with a post and upvote it themselves if they see it is well liked. It is a herd mentality thing where people are more likely to like something because lots of other people agree with it.
Collapsing all comments, or at least being able to collapse entire threads from any point on the screen (see Reddit Comment Collapser addon).
i enjoy having the comment box at the bottom. it's a great ideal. but sometimes, you just don't want to scroll through all the child comments.