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Advice on dealing with aging parents
Questions first, the long backstory in the details section that follows if you care to read it. Thank you in advance for your consideration. I've framed this in terms of parents for convenience,...
Questions first, the long backstory in the details section that follows if you care to read it. Thank you in advance for your consideration.
I've framed this in terms of parents for convenience, but of course I am interested in anyone's experience with the aging.
What did you learn later that you wish you knew about having aging parents when they started needing more care?
What resources were the most help to you navigating the transitions?
That resources do you think were the most help to your parents in navigating the transitions?
If you weren't local, what kind of things did you do to help stay connected? What worked, and what didn't ?
I'm really struggling with depression, disappointment, and worry about my parents. What advice do you have for me?
Details inside. Sorry in advance. This is a long one.
My parents are both in their 70s. My mom retired about 10 years ago, but my dad only retired last year. Shortly after his retirement, he received a dementia diagnosis.
My sister and I live about 3 hours apart, but 1,200 miles away from my parents, who still lived in the town we grew up in. I have been quietly campaigning to get them to move closer for years. My mom always said, "When your dad retires, we'll think about it." But my dad has ADHD, and most things don't happen unless my mom spearheads them. The bottom line was that she didn't really want to leave, so they didn't.
The dementia diagnosis proved to be the required catalyst. They have been packing for the past few months, and the movers moved them in to their apartment in the city where my sister lives. They're holding an estate sale to get rid of the rest of their stuff, and they have already found a realtor to list the house.
They moved into a two bedroom apartment in an independent living facility that has options up to full memory care. Right now they are both functioning well enough not to need any daily care, though my dad is no longer driving.
This new place is going to be good for them at least in terms of meeting their physical needs. It's a very nice facility with lots of social spaces. There's a (kind of blah) meal service, exercise equipment, a movie theater, and guest apartments we can stay in when we visit. It has a shuttle that they can book to take them anywhere within 20 miles, so the fact that my dad can't drive it's not as limiting. They're within easy walking distance of a grocery store and a Target.
I went to visit them this week to help with some unpacking. It really made me sad. They moved from a seven bedroom house that they've lived in for 20 years in a town that they lived in for 45 years. The new apartment is 1200 square feet in a town where they don't know anyone but my sister. I'm glad that they made the move because they need the support, but seeing how diminished their circumstances are, and in some ways, how diminished they are has been really depressing to me.
Things are even harder because the relationship dynamic between them is not good. It's become apparent to me that they mostly function as a couple by not being together. My dad would be at work all day, and my mom was doing her own things: volunteering, book club, etc. Now that my dad is retired, there is a lot of friction between them. It's compounded by some anger outbursts from him that are probably related to the dementia but also certainly related to the unresolved conflict between them. He sees her as the person who's taking away his independence. She feels hurt that she's treated like the bad guy in every situation. She is also bitter because their plan was that he would retire and they would travel and see things they had always wanted to see. The truth is more like: she was enjoying her retirement and independence without having him underfoot, and now she has to face the consequences of having put it off for so long. They have tried couples counseling, but my mom has been saying she doesn't want to keep doing it. I had a super weird moment at Target when we were buying things for their apartment the way you would for a child going off to college, and I almost had to break to an argument between them about towels.
I guess I have idealized their relationship in a way that ignored the reality, and now that those blinders are lifted, it's really shaken me.
To top it all off, my dad has had cancer (GIST) for the past 16 years. It's been pretty stable and manageable, but he is scheduled to have surgery in a few weeks to remove a tumor that recently started growing. This will be the first surgery in the new city, though they have an excellent cancer hospital so he should be in good hands. I will be there for the surgery and the recovery, so that is a good time to be able to suggest things to them or help them with things.
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On the one hand, I see the state the world is in. I'm keenly aware of the latest climate projections and what they mean (I also know enough to know how much we can still improve things if we decide to). I'm afraid of escalating instability and societal strife. What if I can't get my medications? I don't know how I'd go on even without a child in the picture. I still struggle to accept the world as it is, which is quite a bit bleaker than it was portrayed to me growing up. I spent years of my life wishing I was not born. How could I bring a child into that circumstance?
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I'm certain that others on Tildes have also navigated this question. Do any of my thoughts resonate with you? What did you decide and why? Are you happy with your choice?
And has anyone adopted? Adoption is the dark horse here. Once upon a time that was my preferred route, but now that I've spent a lot more time reading about the risks and realities I've cooled on it a bit. I am certain I can deal with many challenges of raising a child, but not stuff like oppositional defiance or connection disorders, which occur at ~2x the rate in adopted children, many of whom have trauma. They deserve love too, but unfortunately I have limits due to my own mental health troubles. And all of that is to say nothing of the often sketchy or uncomfortable legal and societal circumstances of adoption.
I deeply appreciate any and all thoughts and experiences you take the time to share.
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Last is context on what we hope to do and what we want to use it for. I'd love to go down to a 1 car family. We live within 6 blocks of all our core needs - grocery store, hardware store, pharmacy, repair places - and within .5 miles of our main recreation areas - the forest and the beach - so largely we're set walking. But there are so many great things that are just outside that area, within about 10 miles, that a cargobike would be great to have - parks, larger stores, everything really. And our Costco is about 500 feet off the main municipal bike trail so I would Looooooove to do my Costco runs on the bike. We also have one kiddo and there will likely be a second. I'm going to be getting a shotgun seat for my normal townie and mountain bikes for when the kids are old enough, but I'd also really love to be able to ferry them to school, have their friends join us, and make it the primary transport until for the family. Our friends in town have a street legal golf cart and I'd love to do something similar with the cargo bike. There is some possibility that we end up with 2, like a Muli and a Lovens, but with storage space that is currently very impractical. Also we live up a hill - about 150ft elevation gain over 5 blocks - from the main trail that connects us to the surrounding towns. We live a weird place where our pennisula is bisected by a military base and golf course so that is literally the only way to access any of the other surrounding towns. Also I'm currently a deep memeber of the Surly gang and am finding myself drawn to bikes like that - probably why the Muli keeps coming up on here - but realize that may be a foolish way to choose a family cargo bike. Also the price range is fairly steep $5-10k, so I'm trying to be level headed about it.
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Others are welcome to share cool stories about their dads :^)
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Thanks in advance!
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Hello Tildes,
My partner and I are at the point where we need to get more care for my dad and I could use some advice from people who have been down this road. He's in his early nineties and still living in his home, and the family has been lucky in many respects. Dad still has good cognitive function, he has excellent health care through his military retirement (USA: Tricare for Life). My brother is living in the family home, so there's someone in the house overnight in case there's a fall or other serious issue.
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