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205 votes
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Former US President Donald Trump indicted for second time, sources say
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Colorado Supreme Court, in landmark ruling, bans Donald Trump from state’s ballot under insurrection clause
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US Department of Justice announces charges against Donald Trump
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Reddit has quarantined /r/The_Donald
Just happened minutes ago, so not much information yet. I think it's likely that this article from Monday might have finally pushed it over the edge (since it's usually media attention that does...
Just happened minutes ago, so not much information yet.
I think it's likely that this article from Monday might have finally pushed it over the edge (since it's usually media attention that does it): You can’t offer to murder cops on Reddit unless you’re on r/TheDonald
The quarantine message says:
It is restricted due to significant issues with reporting and addressing violations of the Reddit Content Policy. Most recently the violations have included threats of violence against police and public officials.
As a visitor or member, you can help moderators maintain the community by reporting and downvoting rule-breaking content.
Here's the message the admins sent them:
Dear Mods,
We want to let you know that your community has been quarantined, as outlined in Reddit’s Content Policy.
The reason for the quarantine is that over the last few months we have observed repeated rule-breaking behavior in your community and an over-reliance on Reddit admins to manage users and remove posts that violate our content policy, including content that encourages or incites violence. Most recently, we have observed this behavior in the form of encouragement of violence towards police officers and public officials in Oregon. This is not only in violation of our site-wide policies, but also your own community rules (rule #9). You can find violating content that we removed in your mod logs.
As we have discussed in the past, and as detailed in our content policy and moderator guidelines, we expect you to enforce against rule-breaking content. You’ve made progress over the last year, but we continue to observe and take action on a disproportionate amount of rule-breaking behavior in this community. We recognize that you do remove posts that are reported, but we are troubled that violent content more often goes unreported, and worse, is upvoted.
User reports and downvotes are an essential way that Reddit functions to moderate content. Limiting or prohibiting them prevents you from moderating your community effectively. Because of this, we are disabling your custom styling in order to restore these essential functions.
As stated in our Moderator Guidelines, our goal is to keep the platform alive and vibrant, as well as to ensure your community can reach people interested in it. Accordingly, here are the specific terms of the quarantine and the next steps we are asking from you as a mod team to resolve this situation.
Quarantine terms:
Visitors to this community will see a warning that requires users to explicitly opt-in to viewing it. This messaging reminds users of the importance of reporting rule-breaking content.
Custom styling has been disabled to restore the report and downvote buttons.
We hope both these changes will help improve the signal around rule-breaking content and improve your ability to effectively address it.
Next steps:
You unambiguously communicate to your subscribers that violent content is unacceptable.
You communicate to your users that reporting is a core function of Reddit and is essential to maintaining the health and viability of the community.
Following that, we will continue to monitor your community, specifically looking at report rate and for patterns of rule-violating content.
Undertake any other actions you determine to reduce the amount of rule-violating content.
Following these changes, we will consider an appeal to lift the quarantine, in line with the process outlined here.
We hope that this process provides a viable way forward to restore the health of the community. However, if this situation continues to escalate, we will explore further actions, including the possible banning of your community.
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109 votes -
Recordings, emails show how Donald Trump team flew fake elector ballots to DC in final push to overturn 2020 US election
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Grand jury in the US state of Georgia returns indictments in Donald Trump 2020 election case
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Exclusive: CNN obtains the tape of former US President Donald Trump’s 2021 conversation about classified documents
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I can't get my head around US President Joe Biden polling poorly and Donald Trump polling well
I can't get my head around President Biden polling poorly and Trump polling well. I don't think I need to provide details for people on this site, but Trump was so horrible as a president and...
I can't get my head around President Biden polling poorly and Trump polling well.
I don't think I need to provide details for people on this site, but Trump was so horrible as a president and President Biden has done such a good job. Even if Biden was a passive placeholder four years of him would have been better than 4 more years of Trump.
I don't understand where the low polls are coming from. Particularly for groups that would not do particularly well under a Trump regime like African Americans and youth.
I see some people complaining about President Biden's age, but his administration has been doing a good job and Trump is only about 4 years younger ( and in much worse shape ).
I don't get where the hate is coming from.
I remember the "red wave" that never happened and articles explaining why polls aren't as accurate as they used to be. However, that answer feels too easy to me, a cop out.
Maybe people are angry about greedflation. However, Trump's presidency when it wasn't about vindictiveness was all about neglect. I can't believe people think Trump would be better for the economy -- that he would even try beyond the stock market so he polls well.
*Disclaimer:
My apologies if this is the wrong place for this conversation. I thought here or "talk" would be the best choices, though people in "talk" might not want political conversations.
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Conservative groups draw up plan to dismantle the US government and replace it with Donald Trump’s vision
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US President Joe Biden urges striking auto workers to “stick with it” in picket line visit unparalleled in history
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‘I want blood’: Heavily-armed Trump supporters say they’ll protest Trump’s indictment
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So far this site has been mostly politics-averse, but I am curious if I am alone as an MAGA/Trump voter/supporter in a sea of reddit mods
I've seen a few remarks here and there that have implied sort of matter-of-factly that places like /r/The_Donald have no redeeming value, the community members are awful (and undesirable to have...
I've seen a few remarks here and there that have implied sort of matter-of-factly that places like /r/The_Donald have no redeeming value, the community members are awful (and undesirable to have here), their ideas are all reprehensible, etc. I assume that this is mostly just due to the demographic coming primarily from popular reddit mod teams where being anti-Trump is sort of an unspoken requirement - but I don't really know for certain.
It reminds me a little of this woman in a class i had once, who spoke to me about atheists, assumed I was christian just as a matter of course. It's kind of an awkward situation to find yourself in. I don't identify as an atheist, but if someone is mildly insulting atheists, it's uncomfortable. You have to be a covert conservative (or covert center-right, or even left-leaning Trump voter) or else you risk being blasted/flamed/mocked/etc. in places like reddit.
Part of what attracted me to Tildes was the sales pitch that it is to be a community for civil conversation, no hate-speech/bigotry. I think that's a perfect environment for political discussion - far more than shit-flinging and nuclear downvoting on /r/politics. So even if I'm the only MAGA person here, maybe there's a chance we can actually have civil conversations on topics we might initially disagree on...?
Edit: wow! Really happy to have these conversations with folks. Sad that i haven't encountered any fellow (public) Trump voters/supporters yet but very pleased that things have been civil as advertised. ;) Apologies for slow responses, trying to give proper thought and consideration to all the comments!
Edit2: gotta head to bed. sorry to anyone i haven't responded to questions from. feeling a bit like a novelty "And here's our token Trump voter. ha ha, he sure is a quirky one, isn't he, that crazy dictator-enabler!" xP. I'll try to answer any questions I've missed tomorrow. Sleep well, all (well, all who are going to sleep before I get back).
Edit3: Thanks for the open engagement, all you people who live in a different reality!
Still a bit bummed there aren't any MAGA friends here yet, but I've been blown away by how cordial most of you have been (i hope we can retain this culture into the future of the site). For those who are just coming in and don't want to read everything, I'd say a tl;dr of the conversations I've had below is:
- most people here want to engage with others on important topics without the shit flinging,
- some people express disbelief that someone can not be a bigot or racist and vote for Donald Trump,
- I've been repeating in various conversations the Laurel and Yanny thing is a great metaphor for the polarized camps experiencing different realities, seeing different movies on the same screen.
I'm continuing to try to reply to questions, and in the spirit of not provoking heated emotions I have been trying not to argue any of my political beliefs except that both sides are seeing different realities.
90 votes -
President Trump and first lady Melania have tested positive for coronavirus
85 votes -
New York judge orders cancellation of Donald Trump and family members business licenses in New York State
84 votes -
US federal appeals court rejects Donald Trump’s claim of absolute immunity
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Former US President Donald Trump faces possible indictment in Jan 6th investigation
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Former US President Donald Trump pleads not guilty to classified documents charges
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Two prominent conservative law professors write article arguing Donald Trump ineligible to run for US President under 14th amendment
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Joe Biden is the next President of the United States
Race called by Decision Desk HQ at 08:50 AM EST: https://twitter.com/DecisionDeskHQ/status/1324710866516905984 Other sources will follow as there is no path back for Donald Trump to win PA. Update...
Race called by Decision Desk HQ at 08:50 AM EST: https://twitter.com/DecisionDeskHQ/status/1324710866516905984
Other sources will follow as there is no path back for Donald Trump to win PA.
Update #1: Called by Business Insider
Update #2: Called by Vox (thanks @dubteedub)
Update #3: The Economist is coming as close as they can to calling it (explanation: https://twitter.com/gelliottmorris/status/1324860925745229824)
Update #4: The AP, NBC, CNN and ABC News have called the race. It's over.
Update #5: New York Times, BBC
Update #6: Meanwhile in Trump's fantasy land
Update #7: Fox News has called it as well.72 votes -
Donald Trump's lawyers say it is impossible for him to post bond covering $454 million US civil fraud judgment
64 votes -
US President Donald Trump’s taxes show chronic losses and years of income tax avoidance
61 votes -
US Supreme Court accepts case challenging Donald Trump's eligibility to run for president based on the 14th amendment and the January 6 capitol riot
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We're starting to see a lot of repeat questions, so let me make an introduction to Tildes post for everyone just arriving
It's been an interesting couple of weeks while we all decompress post-reddit and think about the future of democratic online forums. Most of the relevant topics have already been discussed in...
It's been an interesting couple of weeks while we all decompress post-reddit and think about the future of democratic online forums. Most of the relevant topics have already been discussed in multiple threads, and rather than having repeats, I'd like to invite everyone to comment on these threads themselves - and to read the comments that are already there. You'll find most of the solutions we've been thinking about explained in some detail, and we do want your feedback on these ideas to help make them better.
I suggest you bookmark this page. This thread is getting a bit lost in the shuffle, and it's really the best nexus of information about tildes we have at the moment. It'll take you quite a while to read all of this, so since we don't have 'save posts' here yet, a bookmark will have to do. We're also updating the links here as new discussions form. If you think a discussion should be added here, please reply to this thread with the link and I'll take care of editing it into the main post. When you see new users asking repeat questions, please link them to this post. Thanks for your patience while we work through all of this. :)
Let's get started.
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A group is its own worst enemy. This will help you think better about online community management. Also, if you haven't yet, play The Game Of Trust.
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Community Moderators? How do we moderate effectively, and fairly? Do we moderate at all? (everyone should read this monster) Also, see round two.
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How do we handle communities that get too big? It's a doozy, the inverse of reddit.
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Do we allow Fluff content? Just how do we select for quality instead of popularity, or even define quality, anyway?
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Do we allow for political content? How do we handle one of the most heated categories of discussion? Also see the followup.
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What do we do about "Fake News?" And you thought politics was hard? :D
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Can we create new ~groups? Will users be able to create them? Yes, eventually... but it's not that simple.
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How do we stop bots from wrecking the place? What about the bots that are useful?
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Why exactly is my comment box at the bottom, rather than the top? We have reasons. ;)
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Anonymous posting? You betcha. Privacy is not just a buzzword.
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Can we think of a better name than votes? Not really, not yet. Got any ideas?
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Funding - how do we pay for all of this? Nothing is free, after all. No ads, no pay to play, but what else could we do?
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Tildes Gold? No, something much better - the exemplary upvote, because you need a limited use vote to highlight the things you think are top quality. If we all use them together, it just might work.
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What changes need to be made to the comment tags before they are re-enabled? It's a tough problem.
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Should we make the site publicly visible? For users without accounts to read.
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Moving the vote count to the vote button. It's the little things.
And, of course, our first ban. In fact we're up to two now.
It's not all serious, though!
- Drop by and introduce yourself. Also see round two and round one.
- Where are you from? Quite the diversity in countries already!
- Our first Trump thread. Went better than expected.
- What about cultural exchanges? Great idea there.
- First impressions? Once you've slogged through all this, tell us what you think about the site. ;)
- Some simple user scripts. It's not RES, but it's a start.
Please do take some time to browse through everything in ~tildes. It's a cross between theoryofreddit, ideasfortheadmins, and announcements. That's where we talk turkey. There's a new discussion there every day.
I also want to make one important contrast about what this site intends to be.
Reddit and Voat: Democratic republic based on popularity. 'Free speech' forums.
Tidles: Democratic meritocracy based on quality. 'Civil speech' forum.Enjoy yourselves, post some content, make some new friends. This sweet honeymoon phase won't last forever, and it's one of the best parts of a new site. Remember, as long as you're civil here, you are never going to have any problems.
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Arizona grand jury indicts eleven Republicans who falsely declared Donald Trump won the state in 2020
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Michigan charges sixteen in false elector scheme to overturn former US President Donald Trump’s 2020 loss
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Former US President Donald Trump heading to trial in seven civil and criminal cases: A calendar of dates and what to expect
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Trump/Biden 2020 Presidential Debate #1 Discussion Thread
This will be a noisy thread. Please use the ignore feature if you do not want to see it in your feed. Watch on YouTube Other viewing options Debate starts ~10 minutes from the time of this...
This will be a noisy thread. Please use the ignore feature if you do not want to see it in your feed.
Watch on YouTube
Other viewing optionsDebate starts ~10 minutes from the time of this posting.
Info from The Washington Post:
Location: Case Western Reserve University in Cleveland. (This was originally scheduled to be held at the University of Notre Dame. Notre Dame withdrew, saying the fact that it would have to limit student attendance and volunteer opportunities because of the pandemic erased the reason to host a debate at the university.)
Moderator: Chris Wallace, anchor of “Fox News Sunday”
Details: The debate will be 90 minutes long and have no commercial breaks. There will be no opening statements. Wallace will dive right in with the first question to Trump. It will be divided into six 15-minute segments that Wallace has chosen. They are:
- the Trump and Biden records
- the Supreme Court
- the coronavirus pandemic
- the economy
- race and violence in cities
- the integrity of the election
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Donald Trump finds no new lawyers in time for Mar-a-Lago documents arraignment: he is expected to be represented by existing lawyers Todd Blanche and Chris Kise
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Testimony of Michael D. Cohen — Committee on Oversight and Reform — US House of Representatives
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Reddit CEO defends their intention to run Trump ads ahead of election, outlines their plans to move comments on ads into subreddits
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Text of u/DivestTrump's post about T_D and Russia propaganda that was deleted
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Former US President Donald Trump's televised trial could rival Super Bowl viewership
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Permanent suspension of @realDonaldTrump
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2020 US Presidential Election Day - Discussion Thread
This will be a noisy thread. Please use the ignore feature if you do not want to see it in your feed. We have a thread here in ~news that's more focused on articles and events, but I also want us...
This will be a noisy thread. Please use the ignore feature if you do not want to see it in your feed.
We have a thread here in ~news that's more focused on articles and events, but I also want us to have a more conversational space to process the day. Consider this an open forum for your own thoughts and feelings.
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'A brilliant move': special counsel Jack Smith praised by legal experts for deploying game-changing statute against former US President Donald Trump
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Nancy Pelosi plans formal impeachment inquiry of US President Donald Trump
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US President Donald Trump's former campaign chairman Paul Manafort found guilty on eight counts
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'A red line crossed': Nationwide protests declared for Thursday at 5PM after Jeff Sessions fired
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I Am Part of the Resistance Inside the Trump Administration
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Supreme Court rules Donald Trump can remain on Colorado ballot (gifted link)
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Michigan Republican fake elector for Donald Trump outlined Jan. 6 plan to present Mike Pence with "dueling electors" in December 2020 US radio interview
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Grand jury in the US state of Georgia charges Donald Trump, former advisers in 2020 election case
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People are lying to you and will continue to lie about the merits of the Donald Trump US indictment - be aware
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Megathread - Update on state court cases challenging legality of Donald Trump candidacy under the 14th amendment section 3 of the US constitution
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Is keeping Donald Trump in the 2024 US election beneficial to Democrats?
Yes, Trump has a real chance of winning in 2024 and that would be dangerous for the world in many ways. On the other hand Trump seems like the easiest candidate for the presumptive nominee...
Yes, Trump has a real chance of winning in 2024 and that would be dangerous for the world in many ways.
On the other hand Trump seems like the easiest candidate for the presumptive nominee President Biden to beat.
- A lot of Americans are rightly scared shitless of Trump and will turn out to vote against him.
- Trump is likely to try to dodge debates which benefits Biden, who has a stuttering problem and a gaffe problem.
- Trump is elderly, like Biden so that somewhat neutralizes the age issue for Biden.
If Trump was removed from the election DeSantis might become the front runner or nominee
- He is young, and the age issue would be on Biden again
- He might have the debates Trump would have eschewed and do well in them
- DeSantis would likely pick up Trump's base in that situation
The worst scenario with Trump being removed from the election would if someone other than DeSantis became the nominee
- Again, the age issue would be a thing for Biden again
- The unknown nominee could be a better debater than Biden
- The unknown candidate would have neither Trump's nor DeSantis's baggage, causing more voters to stay home or swing voters picking him/her over Biden
Edit:
To clarify, I mean what would happen if Trump was kept entirely out of 2024 - no 3rd party runs, no vote splitting.
45 votes -
How General Mark Milley protected the US Constitution from Donald Trump
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Former US President Donald Trump demands Republican rivals pledge to pardon him … or else
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Former US President Donald Trump allegedly discussed US nuclear subs with Australian billionaire businessman Anthony Pratt after leaving White House: Sources
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Mike Huckabee: 2024 will be last US election ‘decided by ballots rather than bullets’ if Donald Trump loses over legal cases
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