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Requesting your thoughts that may help me decide between moving to Chicago or Portland (Oregon)?
hey there tildes. i’m moving out of texas in august no matter what and am trying to decide between chicago and portland. i was wondering if anyone here has lived in either (or both) locations and...
hey there tildes. i’m moving out of texas in august no matter what and am trying to decide between chicago and portland. i was wondering if anyone here has lived in either (or both) locations and could help me decide by sharing their experiences.
i’m currently in texas and by the time i move, i will have only been here 1 year but this was always supposed to be a temporary stop for a job (that is very much not working out due to the owner of the company — i’ve posted about it a few months ago and struggle with it in my mind to this day).
i’ve moved around a bit, both in the same cities and across several states, over the past 5 years. im tired of moving and starting over, so im really going to focus on making the next place work for at least 5 years. the world is too chaotic for me to pretend to see farther out than that.
i had been reading and watching a lot of videos about chicago over the past month or two and now wondering if i should give it a try? i just assumed i would move back to portland by default because i liked it well enough and now im not sure if i should fall back to something familiar or try again somewhere else.
just want to say that i know moving wont magically make my life great and i know i will have to put in a lot of work to make everything work regardless. greener grass and all that.
portland
i’ve lived in portland before (2 years) and visited many, many times in the 7 years before moving there. i liked it for the most part.
things i didn’t like (mostly my opinion/experience)
- PNW gray, dreary weather for many months. im prone to bouts of severe depression and it’s a lot of work to keep healthy during the dark months. was in for seattle for 7 years prior to living in portland so i was maxed out with the gray perhaps.
- cost of living is kind of high for the size of city and offerings
- it’s a very slow, sleepy city that feels more like a very big town than a small city. sometimes i liked this about the city (less traffic, crowds) and sometimes i didnt (less “things going on”, especially later at night)
- the sheer amount of unsheltered people and seemingly no solution or even progress. when i lived there, it was really, really bad (2021-2023) and i’ve read that it’s actually gotten worse since ive left. it’s heartbreaking.
things i did like
- green year round, even if it’s gray and winter. beautiful outdoors/hiking, swimming in the river
- proximity to seattle (i have friends there)
- much more agreeable politics for me (Leftists everywhere)
- great food options, fun bars, interesting shops
- very bike friendly (newly into biking, was not when i lived there)
- decent public transit
- relatively friendly people though i did struggle with making deeper connections
- very positive towards folks who are queer or generally nontraditional. that’s important to me
- seems like a lot of creative folk live here
why i moved away from portland originally
i moved away because i was deeply unhappy with my work life (had two awful jobs in a row because my freelancing work (audio/video editing) dried up completely), had to get a roommate for the first time in like 10 years because of pay decreasing with new jobs, and tried to change up my medication for depression (for reasons i can no longer recall) that backfired and i fell into a massive bout of depression.
i backed away from all of my friendships and spent all of my time dreaming about greener grass. instead of focusing on getting a better job and fixing my medication, i chose the “easy” route of moving away again and starting over.
i went to denver chasing better weather and had two new clients lined up but two months after moving, they stopped paying me. had to take one to court and everything. only other job i could find was awful with a really toxic manager and a huge pay cut (again) but had no other job options. i did fix my meds and other lifestyle changes so all was not completely lost.
the owner of the company i was working for (and before i knew what kind of person he was) offered me a new job in texas so i jumped on it. my family was there so figured it’d be nice to be nearby for a year or two. unsurprisingly, san antonio sucks (for me) and job sucks, so as soon as my lease ends in august, im out.
chicago
i’ve never been to chicago. i’ll visit in june to check it out. i also don’t know anyone there. this isn’t a huge deal since i have done this kind of move (only visiting right before moving and not knowing anyone) i guess 3 times now.
reasons i think i will like it
- liberal city
- great public transit
- big, dense city
- diversity
- seemingly decent cost of living
- people say midwesterners are friendly (?)
- job opportunities just by the fact that it’s such a huge city
things that are/may be negative
- brutal winters. i am not used to real winters. seattle/portland had very mild winters and even denver’s were honestly not bad at all. i hear lots of talk about chicago winters.
- crime. no, i don’t think i will be regularly mugged or killed like the US media makes it sometimes seem, but compared to everywhere i’ve lived before, it’s has a higher violent crime rate.
- friends/community. i’m in my mid 30s and it’s harder to make friends the old i get and that’s sort of my number one goal each time i move to a new city. also never really had “community” and would really like to have that in my life.
- politics. i know that portland is generally much more left and chicago is more generic democrat. this isn’t the end of the world and i don’t expect everyone to be as far left as i am but i want to be able to live in the same reality as my community.
huge wall of text, i know, so thanks for those that read it. i’m not great at organizing my thoughts in these posts, but i’m just tryin’ to figure stuff out!
if anyone has anything they want to share based on my likes/dislikes and your experience, please do! i really enjoy reading what the folks here have to say about things.
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Recommend me some deep dive YouTube videos / Portland trip recs!
This one's a two parter- I'm traveling to Portland for the week so I have a bit of a plane ride ahead of me. Recommend me some deep dive hour + YouTube videos I can download for the flight! I tend...
This one's a two parter-
I'm traveling to Portland for the week so I have a bit of a plane ride ahead of me. Recommend me some deep dive hour + YouTube videos I can download for the flight! I tend to drift towards science, technology, psychology, and some hank green esque talking heads about whatever.
Also if you have anything in particular you think I should check out in Portland let me know! Particularly interested in the niche spots. Still a bit tentative stuff but mostly plan to do the Tillamook factory, a tea room, PSU Farmers market, and ten falls hike.
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Farms and data centers contribute to a water pollution crisis in Eastern Oregon
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Salmon clear last Klamath dams, reaching Williamson and Sprague rivers
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Chad Crouch - Arps (2019)
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DARPA research show that a single person can effectively manage a swarm of more than 100 autonomous robots at once
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Second US company recalls raw pet food as bird flu spreads to cats through tainted meat
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Oregon house cat died after eating pet food that tested positive for bird flu - food sold and marketed as raw
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Googly eyes uber alles!
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AI slop is already invading Oregon’s local journalism
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Largest solar and energy storage project in US approved
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Portland Airport grows with expansive mass timber roof canopy
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Oregon, USA introduces new statewide recycling rules to combat plastic waste
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Adventure cats blaze new trails in Oregon’s great outdoors
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America’s first cross-country auto race
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Buy burned land
Tis fire season again here in North America and Europe. From my house in coastal California I grieve every year as more of my favorite forests burn, from British Columbia to California. There is...
Tis fire season again here in North America and Europe. From my house in coastal California I grieve every year as more of my favorite forests burn, from British Columbia to California.
There is no end in sight for this transition. So what can we do to at least mitigate the worst of its effects? I think the time to play defense over pure "wilderness" is long gone. The forests that haven't burned are still beautiful, but they're riddled with disease and so overgrown the ecosystems are permanently distorted.
Every year there is less pristine forest and more burned land. I'm a fourth generation Californian and the Portuguese side of the family still owns a ranch in the foothills from 1893. But I own nothing and the prospect of being able to afford land in California has forever been beyond my reach. Burned land needs to be rehabilitated in a thoughtful manner. I'm hoping once my daughter finishes college and our life starts a new chapter, that I can find a few acres where I can make the best environmental impact, such as a headwaters, then invite experts onto the land to teach me how to best heal it.
Every year I have this idea, and every year more areas become available (in the worst sense). I don't need to live on this land. I don't expect it to be much more than grasses and saplings for 20 years. I'd get out to it one or two weekends a month, rent some equipment and hire some folks as I could. I also understand that my original thought that this would be immune from future fire seasons is wrong. But at least the land can be designed to be as fire resistant as possible, with a clear understory and single large trees. And that is another part of the allure. This acreage would come with its own challenges for sure, but in some sense it is a blank slate. The permaculture people could show us how to remediate and reconstruct the land from the bones up.
I know this project would be an aggravating money sink, and even perhaps an unrealistic and irresponsible fantasy by someone untrained in forestry management. But there is so much burned land now. Every year another giant 4% stripe of California goes up in smoke. Yet this idea just doesn't catch on. It entails a lot of patience and work. I know it's not what most people want to hear. They want their idyllic cabin in Tahoe or nothing. But that time is quickly coming to an end and learning how to revive the forests that have been devastated is our only real choice.
Whenever I've tried to get serious about this, though, I learn that there is no market in burned land because there is hardly any profit to be made. No real estate agent that I can find is specializing in this because their clients are having to sell ruined land and burned buildings for pennies on the dollar. I've been advised that the best way is to find a specific spot, do my research, and approach the owner directly. But, again, there is so much burned land now I hardly know where to start. The Santa Cruz Mountains? The Sierra adjacent to Yosemite? Crater Lake in Oregon?
Any thoughts or ideas or resources would be appreciated.
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Ursula K. Le Guin's home will become a writers residency
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America's first right-to-repair bill that bans parts pairing
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What Boeing’s door-plug debacle says about the future of aviation safety
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Moving to Colorado from Oregon (USA) in late February
Hi everyone! I am moving to Colorado from Oregon late February and will be driving with my cat. I am shipping my belongings separately so it’s just us in the car. We will be traveling through...
Hi everyone!
I am moving to Colorado from Oregon late February and will be driving with my cat. I am shipping my belongings separately so it’s just us in the car.
We will be traveling through Idaho, Utah, and Colorado. I have never been through any of these states, particularly this time of year. My planned route is
Day 1 - Portland, OR -> Boise, ID
Day 2 - Boise, ID -> Salt Lake City, UT
Day 3 - Salt Lake City, UT -> Grand Junction, CO
Day 4 - Grand Junction, CO -> Denver, COBecause of the time of year, I wanted to see if anyone had tips for traveling this route. I have checked average temperatures for the cities I’ll be stopping in for that time of year but I know that’s not the full story. I’m also going to get my car checked out before the long drive to make sure all is well. I have all season tires that are newer and chains already in the car.
I have a first aid kit, will bring a few blankets and some food/water for both me and the cat (Marge), a battery pack, and a few days of clothes for the traveling. That’s all I could think of.
Does anyone have suggestions or tips for this 1200+ mile trip? Also, my cat has only ever been in the car for about 3 hours at most. She’s sometimes anxious and sometimes chill. If anyone has suggestions for traveling with a cat in the car for up to 7 hours per day, that would also be appreciated!
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The humble American trash truck is ready for an all-electric upgrade
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No bar exam required to practice law in Oregon starting next year
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An Idaho woman and her son have been charged with kidnapping after prosecutors say they took the son’s minor girlfriend to Oregon to get an abortion
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Portland's Division St. bus rapid transit project yields success
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ILWU dockworkers union files for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection
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Armand Duplantis breaks pole vault world record at the Wanda Diamond League Final 2023 in Eugene
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How public pianos decorated by artists came to dot Portland’s streets and parks
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Jakob Ingebrigtsen sets new European record in men's mile at the Wanda Diamond League Final 2023 in Eugene
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Oregon launches legal psilocybin access amid high demand and hopes for improved mental health care
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Meet the American nomad prepping for doomsday by living in a homemade cart pulled by sheep and drinking their milk | World Wide Waste
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How far will salmon swim for a craft beer? In Oregon, researchers hope a surprising aroma will lure stray salmon back to their home hatcheries.
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Portland radio station now has an AI DJ as a midday host
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The US government is giving out free wasps
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The Taxpayers - I Love You Like An Alcoholic (2012)
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Armand Duplantis clears 6.21m, breaking his own pole vault world record, at the World Athletics Championships 2022
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The Shivas - My Baby Don't (2021)
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How the founder’s toxic culture tore apart Fullbright, the studio behind Gone Home
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At 15, he shot and killed his parents, two classmates at his school, and wounded twenty-five others. He’s been used as the reason to lock kids up for life ever since.
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In the Klamath Basin, pretty much everybody’s feeling the pain
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Nearly 100,000 remain without power in Portland as outages stretch into sixth day
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Scientists identified a green, poisonous gas used by Federal agents on Portland protesters
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Oregon legalizes psilocybin mushrooms (for therapeutic purposes) and decriminalizes all drugs
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The FBI team sent to ‘exploit’ protesters’ phones in Portland
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What the photos of wildfires and smoke don’t show you
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Oregon residents are illegally stopping drivers at gunpoint during wildfire evacuations, sheriff says
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Eugene, a town of 170,000 in Oregon, replaced some cops with medics and mental health workers. It's worked for over thirty years.
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Marisa Anderson -- Tiny Desk Concert (2014)
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California, Oregon & Washington announce Western States Pact
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Oregon woman turns school buses into tiny homes for working homeless families
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