38 votes

What are some things other people dislike that you quite enjoy?

Could be a game, book, movie, song, etc that is generally considered subpar. Personally, I quite like a lot of Eminem's new music, although I know it's an unpopular opinion. It certainly doesn't hit the same highs and there are a lot of stinkers but I still think some of it is quite good and worth a listen despite the circlejerk. I've also been playing Just Cause 4 lately, and although it certainly isn't a masterpiece and I will say the story is below the others, to me Just Cause was never about the story. It's about getting in there and just having fun causing chaos and generally messing around.

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    hungariantoast (edited ) Link
    Sports bikes. Everyone I know hates sports bikes. Years ago, when I first started entertaining the idea of buying a motorcycle, of course my mother freaked the fuck out, but the rest of my family,...

    Sports bikes.

    Everyone I know hates sports bikes.

    Years ago, when I first started entertaining the idea of buying a motorcycle, of course my mother freaked the fuck out, but the rest of my family, coworkers, friends, pretty much everyone I talk to aside from her, were also relatively hostile to the idea of riding, for me, for their loved ones and friends, and for themselves.

    Because you see, when you talk to someone about getting a motorcycle, it isn't just your safety and comfort that influences the tone and opinion of their feedback, but also the theoretical safety and comfort of themselves and everyone they've ever loved, because they're not just imagining you on a motorcycle, they're imagining their fourteen year old son or sixty-eight year old grandfather (hell yeah) on a motorcycle as well.

    Or they're remembering the time that one of their family members did ride and that's even worse, because the only memories people tend to have of relatives or people they knew on motorcycles is when they fucking died, stacking the opinions of others at odds with your desire to travel on two wheels, because people don't give two shits about the rider who never got hurt, who never died, who never suffered from the consequences of putting their body on a motorcycle.

    So, the feedback and opinions you get when you talk about motorcycles with other people, especially which one you should buy is really, in my experience, more based on their anecdotal evidence they've received from others and imaginary perceptions of others than it is from their ideas of you, and sometimes they're interesting enough to imagine their own self riding a motorcycle.

    My point is, it's less about you than it is about others.

    That being said, especially in America, there are ways to overcome this hurdle.

    For most folks forty or older, telling them you're entertaining the idea of getting a Harley is enough to make them switch sides, for some reason.

    No really, this baffles me, but it's so true in my experience. Harley Davidson just has this tight grip on the minds of people not young enough to be millennials that they fall in line and start giving real opinions and thoughts of value once they realize you're thinking of buying American.

    Sorry, I know this is a generalization, but you have to remember, I've only ever lived in the Southern United States where people tend to be a little less put together.

    What if you don't want a Harley? Okay, that's fine, because you can still tell them you want a cruiser, maybe a Kawasaki Vulcan or something similarly Japanese. People will usually be amicable to this.

    What if you don't want a cruiser? What if you want a dual sport or an adventure bike? People are still pretty okay with these choices as well, because they're not plastic fairing laden noise machines and look more like dirt bikes than anything else.

    As you might have guessed, the hate a motorcycle receives is largely derived from how fast other people perceive it to be.

    Which is horseshit, because cruisers and dual sports can easily outpace sport dikes depending on the models we are comparing.

    But cruisers and dual sports don't look fast to people who don't ride.

    Seriously, ask yourself which bike looks the fastest in this image.

    Duh, the sport bike, right?

    (I bet you didn't even know "naked" or "standard" was a category of motorcycles.)

    And, okay, I know I said it was horseshit earlier but sports bikes are the dominating category when it comes to top speed and acceleration. The top end of motorcycle performance will always favor that category of bike, because physics. I suppose this is part of the reason why any sport bike looks "too fast" to people who don't know.

    That, and the fact that motorcycling only gets attention when it ends in broken bones and insurance pay outs. Seriously, people don't line up to consume peaceful riding videos, they want to see bikers get hurt, just like outrage lands clicks.

    So it's a perception issue with the unknowing, but then, why not just not talk to people who don't ride and don't get their opinions on motorcycles.

    Well, first of all, that's not as easy as it sounds, because people love to go out of their way to give their opinions, I am doing it right now. Secondly, you may not have the luxury of knowing anyone who does ride so that you can talk to them.

    Then, even if you do know someone who rides, they may be just as opinionated and even less open minded. Indoctrination and cultural advertising is a problem.

    Now, if you're thinking about getting a motorcycle, then sure, you do have the option to just not seek out advice or talk with others about your desire to purchase, and odds are the Internet will present you with all of the information you need.

    That doesn't protect you when you turn up at work on your new bike for the first time.

    And congratulations, you just went from a person who can propose theoretical purchases and back down to accept the arguments of others when you realize they won't change their mind, to a person who now has to defend their important and relevant monetary decisions to the death, like a kid who decided to get a PlayStation instead of a Xbox, because fuck you, mine's better and I'll be damned if I'm going to acknowledg that I made the wrong choice.

    (Odds are you didn't make the wrong choice. It's easy to find the bike you like, while it's hard to be a kid and convince your parents to buy you the objectively better product that was the Xbox, but your coworker, uncle, etc. won't see it that way.)

    I mean, at the end of the day, it really doesn't fucking matter, because all the rage, annoyance, and grumbling disposition you have towards the person who nags you about your bike immediately gets dispensed when you go for a ride, because that's half the reason motorcycles are nice to own. They're great decompression machines.

    I guess the point of this comment, aside from ranting (I'm looking at buying my third bike, and am going through the sport bike hate maze all over again), is that you, the reader, shouldn't automatically assume that sports bikes are dangerous, nor should you let the stereotypes of their riders misconstrue what should be an objective perception of the hobby and lifestyle that is motorcycling, something that defines you if allowed to.

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    1. azulez Link Parent
      Man, sport bikes are awesome. I wanted one ever since I was a kid. The 90s body styles, the sounds they made.. seeing them on the track. It was amazing. And then I bought one. After getting a 1984...

      Man, sport bikes are awesome. I wanted one ever since I was a kid. The 90s body styles, the sounds they made.. seeing them on the track. It was amazing. And then I bought one.

      After getting a 1984 GS 550L to learn and screw around on I upgraded to a 94 GSXR1100, and holy fuck. That machine was absolutely insane. Despite being easy to flick into corners, it rode those corners like a rail. It was a heavy monster, but it was the god damn fastest thing I've ever experienced. It was substantially more than the force of a plane taking off, and I paid about 3-4 grand for it. But, ultimately, that was the same reason I got rid of it.

      On the street, you couldn't really utilize it without doing something illegal within about 2 seconds. I've always been one of those slow-in/fast-out riders on the street, which I still think is the way to go, but a lot of the other sportbike riders around me in college just wanted to go fast-fast-fast all the time. That made riding with those people something I didn't feel great about, so I eventually fell out of the group.

      The bike ended up sitting for a few years while I moved and dealt with some stuff before I got the bug again. This time I downgraded substantially and went to a 2008 DL650. That's one of those 'adventure bikes' that have become so popular as of late. It was also the first vehicle I purchased brand spanking new. I was tired of weird shit cropping up my used vehicles that had to be dealt with.. and it was only around 7k!

      I won't say it's the most fun I've had riding, but it's the kind of fun that I need now. It's a slow thing that you can drive fast. It's got the right balance and geometry - essentially like riding a comfortable dirt bike - that it's much better for touring than the GSXR, yet I still feel much more 'in control' than I felt on the comfy ass GS - L. I don't fear the occasional gravel roads that crop up, and so far pretty much nothing has gone wrong with it for 9 years.

      During that time some of my local, actual, pre-existing friends decided to get into riding and lo and behold I had group rides again, but with SANE people! It was amazing. Unfortunately they have since moved from the area, and I'm back alone.. so I decided to spring for a BRZ and experiment with manual/rwd cars for a little while.

      Now then.. my thoughts on sport bikes at this point is that they have differentiated into track-sport and street-sport. The big difference, as far as I understand, is the riding position is not as aggressive and is more centered. This is a big factor. At this point I /still/ think it's a bit ridiculous to buy something like a Ninja H2 for the street. I haven't done my research in a while but the H2 SX is taller and looks a lot more comfortable. It may be heavier, but it's not going to make a substantial difference on the street. If I were to go shopping tomorrow, I'd be looking at one of these street-sport bikes, OR a sport tourer. Renting a fully kitted BMW K1200RS for 3 days and doing rt1 in california was fucking magic.

      I'll probably go back up in displacement again, but a part of me also wants a little 250 to do track days on because it sounds fun and hilarious. Generally the less bike you have, the more wiggle room you have for improving, and the less chance you have of getting into trouble at a speed too quick for you to deal with. You'll always have other drivers as the biggest factor on the road, but the key is figuring out what you're doing without being a fuckin numpty, and not only figuring out what the bike can do, but also where you shouldn't put /yourself/.

      So that's my experience on various classes of bikes and kinda where I'm at. At the end of the day, bikes are a bit like guns in that they're a tool, have a great variety of different users (including 'lifestylers'), and it's up to the USER to make them dangerous or not. However, on the street, you're going to have idiots in two tone metal monstrosities, so while the bike may not be inherently dangerous, public roadways ARE and WILL ALWAYS BE. Recognizing that and accepting that should be a central tenant. Understanding that you are putting more than just yourself at risk is also something important to consider - family, friends, future. You said it right when you said it's less about you than it is about others.

      I fully understand why my mom worries; she overestimates the risk, but also understands the worst potential consequences of bad decision making. She's a mom - that's practically the job description. That kind of thinking keeps you from making stupid decisions - the kind of stuff that sportbike riders /and/ cruiser riders are stereotypically famous for. It's actually kinda funny; since I transitioned to adventure class, cops have been a lot friendlier. But that class is also getting a lot wider market exposure now too, so who knows.

      I know this is getting a little all over the place, but legit the worst rider I've ever seen was an old harley dude at my licensing/training class. He was a total braggart at the beginning, and was the only one to fail at the end. And it was fucking spectacular. Reiterating, from a practical perspective all motorcycles are roughly equally dangerous, but it's the rider that is the controllable factor.

      Oh, and sportbikes are fucking awesome.

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      thisonemakesyouthink Link Parent
      Woah woah hold on there... are we comparing original Xbox to PS2? This is the hill I want to die on if so. So as someone who isn't a rider, are sport bikes a specific type of motorcycle? And if...

      the objectively better product that was the Xbox

      Woah woah hold on there... are we comparing original Xbox to PS2? This is the hill I want to die on if so.

      you, the reader, shouldn't automatically assume that sport bikes are dangerous

      So as someone who isn't a rider, are sport bikes a specific type of motorcycle? And if so, why are they more dangerous (or perceived as more dangerous)?

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        spctrvl Link Parent
        Not OP, but personally I think it's a tossup between the two. Both had some decent exclusives, and while the PS2 had the better overall library, the Xbox had a standard online play system, better...

        Woah woah hold on there... are we comparing original Xbox to PS2? This is the hill I want to die on if so.

        Not OP, but personally I think it's a tossup between the two. Both had some decent exclusives, and while the PS2 had the better overall library, the Xbox had a standard online play system, better hardware, and still got a lot of ports. What's your argument for the PS2?

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            cfabbro (edited ) Link Parent
            PlayStation controllers are way too small for my hands and cause them to cramp up horribly after extended play... so for me, as bad as they were, I would still rather have an original squarish...

            PlayStation controllers are way too small for my hands and cause them to cramp up horribly after extended play... so for me, as bad as they were, I would still rather have an original squarish Xbox controller over a PS2 one.

            360 controller > all, though. Sadly, they are getting harder and harder to come by and my stockpile is running low. I fear the day when my last one breaks since I can't stand the new XBone controllers thumb sticks; The little ridge on the inside of them rubs my thumbs raw after a few hours. :(

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              thisonemakesyouthink Link Parent
              Funny. For me it's the opposite, I have baby hands so PS controllers are perfect but xbox controllers are really hard on my thumbs especially.

              Funny. For me it's the opposite, I have baby hands so PS controllers are perfect but xbox controllers are really hard on my thumbs especially.

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              TheJorro Link Parent
              I feel like we might have talked about this before, but have you tried the revised Xbox One controller yet? I did not enjoy the original design of the X1 controllers but the revision has overtaken...

              I feel like we might have talked about this before, but have you tried the revised Xbox One controller yet? I did not enjoy the original design of the X1 controllers but the revision has overtaken the X360 one for me.

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                cfabbro Link Parent
                Yeah we did, and no I haven't yet. I have two functioning 360 controllers left (although one is on its last legs) but was planning on giving the revised XB1 S controller a try once they finally...

                Yeah we did, and no I haven't yet. I have two functioning 360 controllers left (although one is on its last legs) but was planning on giving the revised XB1 S controller a try once they finally kick the bucket. I am not particularly optimistic about it based on screenshots I have seen of it though, since there is still a pretty steep ridge along the inside perimeter of the thumbsticks and a stippled, rubberized edge which was my primary problem with the original design too. :/

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                  TheJorro Link Parent
                  I remember my issue with original design is that the ridges around the controller (thumbstick and bumpers) were too sharp, and it felt like they were threatening to cut my fingers. I can't say...

                  I remember my issue with original design is that the ridges around the controller (thumbstick and bumpers) were too sharp, and it felt like they were threatening to cut my fingers. I can't say I've felt the same with the revised models (I believe I have that second revision, not the S revision) but yeah, personal preferences. I hope you get the opportunity to try it before you buy it.

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                  1. cfabbro Link Parent
                    Hmmm, that gives me some hope then. Thanks! :)

                    Hmmm, that gives me some hope then. Thanks! :)

            3. Papaya Link Parent
              I used the 360 controller growing up and I found it really good. Now I'm 23 and I use the PS4 controller and I think it's even better. Granted I have small hands for a dude, but overall I like the...

              I used the 360 controller growing up and I found it really good. Now I'm 23 and I use the PS4 controller and I think it's even better.

              Granted I have small hands for a dude, but overall I like the triggers and the d-pad. I do some Bloodborne speedrunning and I couldn't see myself using the 360 d-pad for menus since it's way to big and clunky.

              Sony controllers usually feel light but sturdy and I like that.

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          2. Greg Link Parent
            Xbox any day - even the Duke (which, come to think of it, could be my answer to OP's question, as I quite liked it even at the time), although I'll readily admit the 360 is better. I think we all...

            Xbox any day - even the Duke (which, come to think of it, could be my answer to OP's question, as I quite liked it even at the time), although I'll readily admit the 360 is better.

            I think we all know that the real answer is whichever one you grew up with, but my (theoretically) objective reason has always been that the PlayStation pad wasn't designed with analogue sticks, and rather than changing the layout to accommodate them Sony just put them in the only place there was room - they aren't where my thumbs naturally rest.

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          3. spctrvl Link Parent
            If you're talking the gigantic one it originally shipped with, that'd been deprecated less than a year after release in North America. I've only ever used the S controller, and I thought it was...

            If you're talking the gigantic one it originally shipped with, that'd been deprecated less than a year after release in North America. I've only ever used the S controller, and I thought it was more or less comparable to the PS2's.

        2. TheJorro Link Parent
          Honestly, that library alone is the argument. "Better overall library" does not do justice for how expansive, varied, and high quality the PS2's library was. It's between the PS2 and the SNES for...

          Honestly, that library alone is the argument. "Better overall library" does not do justice for how expansive, varied, and high quality the PS2's library was. It's between the PS2 and the SNES for the single best console library.

          I guess the other argument would be better particles, haha. The rain in MGS2, and the sparks in Burnout 3, for example. But that's a silly thing to use as an advantage for the PS2.

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        3. thisonemakesyouthink Link Parent
          Well, personally, I much preferred the Playstation's library with classics like Shadow of The Colossus, GoW, Ratchet and Clank, etc. Also, when the Xbox first came out it had that comically...

          Well, personally, I much preferred the Playstation's library with classics like Shadow of The Colossus, GoW, Ratchet and Clank, etc. Also, when the Xbox first came out it had that comically oversized weird controller and I much prefer the PS2's. Beyond that I'm just not a big fan of online gaming and I honestly may be a tad biased.

      2. papasquat Link Parent
        Sport bikes are a specific type of motorcycle. They're almost always full fairing (have pieces of plastic covering the sides and front of the motorcycle to improve aerodynamics), have aggressive,...

        Sport bikes are a specific type of motorcycle. They're almost always full fairing (have pieces of plastic covering the sides and front of the motorcycle to improve aerodynamics), have aggressive, hunched over seating positions, have a shallow rake (The angle that the front forks holding the front wheel have versus the ground), and a high center of gravity (helps with turning at high speed).
        They're analogous to a sports car; a powerful, aggressive machine designed to go fast.

        They're not any more or less dangerous than any other motorcycle for the most part; they're a powerful engine strapped to two wheels. They have a very high power to weight ratio and are capable of higher speeds and more aggressive turns than other styles of motorcycle though, which makes people want to use that capability on the street.

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        1. thisonemakesyouthink Link Parent
          Oh I see. Honestly, I feel I could make the argument that motorcycles are overall safer, because although they may be more of a danger to the rider, I feel they would be much less dangerous to...

          Oh I see. Honestly, I feel I could make the argument that motorcycles are overall safer, because although they may be more of a danger to the rider, I feel they would be much less dangerous to others on the roads as well as structures and pedestrians.

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    3. papasquat Link Parent
      I've been into riding since I was 17, sport bikes specifically. I've always run in sort of a hipsterish, punky crowd though, so I always got judged for it. I dated a girl for a while that detested...

      I've been into riding since I was 17, sport bikes specifically. I've always run in sort of a hipsterish, punky crowd though, so I always got judged for it.

      I dated a girl for a while that detested my bike (a CBR600). She wanted me to have a cafe'd out UJM with a taped X over the headlight. Didn't care though. That bike is still sitting in my garage 10 years later, and it's still just as fun to ride as it was the day I got it.

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      DonQuixote Link Parent
      Nor should we accept stereotypes of an entire geographical area such as one where people tend to be a little less put together. But then, we all do this. It's a survival factor planted deep within...

      Nor should we accept stereotypes of an entire geographical area such as one where people tend to be a little less put together.

      But then, we all do this. It's a survival factor planted deep within us, some more than others. When I remember this, it saves me a rant or two. :)

      But then, we all do this.

      Me included.

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        1. DonQuixote Link Parent
          I get it. I wasn't offended. Hence my comment on my own comment, also partially in jest, at least meant in goodwill and understanding. Everyone has to rant sometimes. My experience has led me to...

          I get it. I wasn't offended. Hence my comment on my own comment, also partially in jest, at least meant in goodwill and understanding. Everyone has to rant sometimes. My experience has led me to do it offline until I calm down and then figure out whether or not to post. Dale Carnegie wrote that Lincoln did this when writing letters. He would wait to post them.

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    lepigpen Link
    I'm from Los Angeles but my family has a musical background so I was exposed to every genre there is. The stereotype of "anything but country" is huge here but I can't help but think that's...

    I'm from Los Angeles but my family has a musical background so I was exposed to every genre there is. The stereotype of "anything but country" is huge here but I can't help but think that's because they only hear "top 40" country or mainstream country music.

    I regularly listen to bluegrass/folk/americana/etc. and it's some of the better music that exists. Great singers, tons of instrumentation, very complex, not formulaic like pop country. And as a person who was mostly into punk and metal through my childhood it's pretty refreshing in general to throw in to the mix.

    If you're looking to expand your musical tastes as such: try "Steeldrivers", "Gillian Welch", "Brown Bird", and "The Dead South".

    18 votes
    1. hamstergeddon Link Parent
      It seems like whenever there's a new genre, it gets super popular, mixes with pop music, and the result is a shadow of the source material. Which isn't to say there aren't some pop-infused gems...

      It seems like whenever there's a new genre, it gets super popular, mixes with pop music, and the result is a shadow of the source material. Which isn't to say there aren't some pop-infused gems from time-to-time, or pop-infused artists with solid songs, but if someone says they like country, it's almost certain they mean the pop country stuff that blew up in the 00s. And I cannot stand that stuff.

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      thisonemakesyouthink Link Parent
      The only country song I like is take me home country roads. Honestly, I feel like half of all country songs are the same thing and it's always some guy singing about his truck or his banjo or some...

      The only country song I like is take me home country roads. Honestly, I feel like half of all country songs are the same thing and it's always some guy singing about his truck or his banjo or some shit

      2 votes
      1. [5]
        lepigpen Link Parent
        Yeah that's that formula/built to make money nonsense that's everywhere. I mean if you're really against banjo than bluegrass won't tickle your fancy but there is still a lot of good folk and...

        Yeah that's that formula/built to make money nonsense that's everywhere.

        I mean if you're really against banjo than bluegrass won't tickle your fancy but there is still a lot of good folk and americana without banjo waitin for ya. Like if you can't stand the lyricism and banjo of true country/bluegrass you can still dip your toes into a bunch of folk and acoustic jams that are great overall.

        Also if you want to hear the banjo done right, try "Wait So Long" by Trampled by Turtles. That's just a jam. I think a punk/metal head could appreciate the pace of that song.

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          thisonemakesyouthink Link Parent
          Meh, honestly right now I think I'm happy with my music and I don't want to plunge into a whole other genre that would clash with my playlist. Thanks though.

          Meh, honestly right now I think I'm happy with my music and I don't want to plunge into a whole other genre that would clash with my playlist. Thanks though.

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            45930 Link Parent
            It's pretty ironic that the person who started this thread would also say "half of all x is y" without even knowing a handful of x. You should at least say you just don't know enough to have an...

            It's pretty ironic that the person who started this thread would also say "half of all x is y" without even knowing a handful of x. You should at least say you just don't know enough to have an opinion or you haven't liked the country you've heard.

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            1. thisonemakesyouthink Link Parent
              Half of all x that I've heard, personally. I'm not trying to judge the entire genre.

              Half of all x that I've heard, personally. I'm not trying to judge the entire genre.

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          2. cfabbro Link Parent
            You should give it a try IMO. It might surprise you. Bluegrass and Americana, especially the modern stuff, is pretty badass. If you change your mind and are ever looking for recommendations, lemme...

            You should give it a try IMO. It might surprise you. Bluegrass and Americana, especially the modern stuff, is pretty badass. If you change your mind and are ever looking for recommendations, lemme know or ask in ~music (there are a few of us here already that are huge fans of it). ;)

            p.s. Just a taste:
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lizARn5wbqo#t=24m55s
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7NoaEf0ht8#t=24s

            2 votes
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    mbc Link
    "The Last Jedi" is my favorite Star Wars movie sequel. I prefer it to "Empire Strikes Back" and "Return of the Jedi." I just really like how Luke ends up sort of losing his faith in the Jedi way....

    "The Last Jedi" is my favorite Star Wars movie sequel. I prefer it to "Empire Strikes Back" and "Return of the Jedi." I just really like how Luke ends up sort of losing his faith in the Jedi way. It's an interesting twist that made the movie very memorable for me.

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    1. ThatFanficGuy Link Parent
      I never liked Star Wars films much and was highly-skeptical after Episode VII, but The Last Jedi became my favorite. There's some elements out-of-place there, but overall, I enjoyed it a lot....

      I never liked Star Wars films much and was highly-skeptical after Episode VII, but The Last Jedi became my favorite. There's some elements out-of-place there, but overall, I enjoyed it a lot.

      Especially that one goddamn shot of a certain hyperspace-assaulting ship. It's nothing if not iconic. Gorgeous.

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    2. Levantus Link Parent
      I liked the general premise of "everybody fails sometimes" and how it tried to differentiate itself from previous films but it seemed like the only goal of the movie was to "subvert expectations"...

      I liked the general premise of "everybody fails sometimes" and how it tried to differentiate itself from previous films but it seemed like the only goal of the movie was to "subvert expectations" and the plot suffered for it.

      2 votes
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      babypuncher Link Parent
      I never understood the hate for Rose's character, or Leia's little space-flight. People complained that these elements were too cheesy. If you didn't want to see cheesy cornball moments, then why...

      I never understood the hate for Rose's character, or Leia's little space-flight. People complained that these elements were too cheesy. If you didn't want to see cheesy cornball moments, then why the hell are you watching a Star Wars movie?

      2 votes
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        CedarMadness Link Parent
        Honestly I didn't like the space flight because they had the perfect place to kill off Leia and they missed it. The movie would have been exactly the same, and then they wouldn't have to do any...

        Honestly I didn't like the space flight because they had the perfect place to kill off Leia and they missed it. The movie would have been exactly the same, and then they wouldn't have to do any CGI shenanigans for the next one due to Carrie Fisher dying.

        Rose was mostly fine, she had some bad lines but it wouldn't be a Star Wars movie without some bad dialog

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        1. babypuncher Link Parent
          I think they opted not to kill Leia in that scene because killing the character on-screen might be seen as crass so soon after Carrie Fisher died. It also might have necessitated some reshoots of...

          I think they opted not to kill Leia in that scene because killing the character on-screen might be seen as crass so soon after Carrie Fisher died.

          It also might have necessitated some reshoots of critical scenes if they killed her at that point in the film. I also thought that Leia and Force-projection Luke reconnecting near the end was an important part of Luke's character arc for the film. Removing that from the film would have left his send-off a little less sweet.

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      thisonemakesyouthink Link Parent
      Oh hey, there's my reverse. I strongly dislike every star wars movie. The prequels are actually my favourite because at least I can enjoy laughing at them.

      Oh hey, there's my reverse. I strongly dislike every star wars movie. The prequels are actually my favourite because at least I can enjoy laughing at them.

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        tomf Link Parent
        You may be interested in the prequel fanedits like Fall of the Jedi (1-3) and The Phantom Edit. TPE is really well done, but I think FotJ really captures what the prequels should have been. Unlike...

        You may be interested in the prequel fanedits like Fall of the Jedi (1-3) and The Phantom Edit. TPE is really well done, but I think FotJ really captures what the prequels should have been.

        Unlike many prequel edits, it still has a little Jar Jar, but he's kept to a minimum. It also minimizes the political stuff (only keeping what is truly necessary for the story) and focuses on Anakin's journey toward the Sith.

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          hamstergeddon Link Parent
          I guess this is my entry for this discussion-- I loved the political stuff in the prequels. I enjoy politics in general and seeing the politics of my favorite universe be fleshed out was really...

          I guess this is my entry for this discussion-- I loved the political stuff in the prequels. I enjoy politics in general and seeing the politics of my favorite universe be fleshed out was really fun. Also kind of leaves you thinking maybe the Emperor wasn't entirely crazy to dissolve the Senate (albeit definitely for the wrong reason). Those guys were really corrupt and bad at their jobs.

          3 votes
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            tomf Link Parent
            Ever read any of the Star Wars Expanded Universe (Legends series -- not the other bad one)? If not, you might like Darth Plagueis by James Luceno that writes its way around the prequels, showing...

            Ever read any of the Star Wars Expanded Universe (Legends series -- not the other bad one)?

            If not, you might like Darth Plagueis by James Luceno that writes its way around the prequels, showing the somewhat origin of their scheme and how Plagueis and Palpatine set everything in motion.

            At first glance I completely dismissed the Star Wars EU, but there are some really fantastic books. While I love the OT, I think the books (overall) are superior. Thrawn, Darth Bane, even the Legacy series with Ben Skywalker (not Solo like the movies) and Jacen Solo... they're pretty great.

            1 vote
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              hamstergeddon Link Parent
              Oh yeah I grew up on the EU books. I really, really enjoyed Plagueis. It's a real shame that it came out just before the cutoff point for what's canonical, because it's a solid book that does some...

              Oh yeah I grew up on the EU books. I really, really enjoyed Plagueis. It's a real shame that it came out just before the cutoff point for what's canonical, because it's a solid book that does some much-needed fleshing out of Palpatine's early years.

              1 vote
              1. [5]
                tomf Link Parent
                For me, I love the OT and think that the fanedits of the prequels make them enjoyable enough -- but augmenting the prequels with the books really made them work for me. I have so much pity for...

                For me, I love the OT and think that the fanedits of the prequels make them enjoyable enough -- but augmenting the prequels with the books really made them work for me. I have so much pity for Darth Maul, where as before I viewed him purely as a bad dude.

                The EU also allowed me to accept a lot of the 'new' Jedi tricks we see -- like Luke appearing in one place for a fight, while actually being somewhere else. This happened in the Legacy series and some others. It was definitely something used on the darker side of the force, but Luke has always been flirting with that anyway.

                All in all, I was so pleasantly surprised with the quality of the books. Its a shame the films aren't at the same level.

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                  hamstergeddon Link Parent
                  Haha, yeah after the EU I don't think they could do anything with the Force in the films that would surprise me. KOTOR's battle meditation alone makes everything in the films look like a joke.

                  Haha, yeah after the EU I don't think they could do anything with the Force in the films that would surprise me. KOTOR's battle meditation alone makes everything in the films look like a joke.

                  1 vote
                  1. [3]
                    tomf Link Parent
                    Oh man! The Thought Bomb in Darth Bane would be so great to see on screen. Haha. I was reading through a Leia book and about halfway through she mentioned her son Ben — and that’s when I realized...

                    Oh man! The Thought Bomb in Darth Bane would be so great to see on screen. Haha.

                    I was reading through a Leia book and about halfway through she mentioned her son Ben — and that’s when I realized that they were writing for the cinematic timeline. So depressing.

                    I only started reading them in the summer, but before I knew it I’d covered about twenty or so of them. Some are such fun reads.

                    Are the animated properties worth watching?

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                      hamstergeddon Link Parent
                      Yes, most definitely! Clone Wars suffers from a lot of filler episodes, but they're all still worth a watch. There are guides out there that tell you which eps are safe to skip. Rebels is a...

                      Are the animated properties worth watching?

                      Yes, most definitely! Clone Wars suffers from a lot of filler episodes, but they're all still worth a watch. There are guides out there that tell you which eps are safe to skip.

                      Rebels is a shorter series, so it doesn't suffer from the same problem quite as much. But it's at least as good as Clone Wars is.

                      If the Prequel Trilogy has ever rubbed you the wrong way, Anakin's turn seemed too fast, the clone wars felt under-represented, etc. Clone Wars fixes that. It's basically Star Wars: Episode 2.5 and it helps flesh out that era of Star Wars substantially. Rebels helps give a lot of background on the earlier days of the Rebellion and gives a glimpse into what's going on with a few fan-favorite characters from CW and the prequels.

                      1 vote
                      1. tomf Link Parent
                        Fantastic! I’m sold. Thanks for this!

                        Fantastic! I’m sold. Thanks for this!

                        1 vote
    5. that_knave Link Parent
      I'm a pretty huge Star Wars fan. I grew up watching the OT on really worn out VHS tapes and know most of the dialogue by heart. I was so pumped for the prequels when they came out and felt really...

      I'm a pretty huge Star Wars fan. I grew up watching the OT on really worn out VHS tapes and know most of the dialogue by heart.

      I was so pumped for the prequels when they came out and felt really disappointed when I finally saw them. When they announced the final Skywalker trilogy I was pretty skeptical and then got really pumped with the first trailers. I can honestly say I love the new trilogy and what they're doing. Sure the movies have some flaws, but go back and look at any of the others and they all do. People got too wrapped up in Star Wars being what they wanted they balk at what they are given.

      1 vote
    6. aymm Link Parent
      I've been quite enjoying the newer Star Wars movies in general. Gota admit, I've never been a hardcore fan, so I'm quite easy to satisfy when it comes to Star Wars

      I've been quite enjoying the newer Star Wars movies in general. Gota admit, I've never been a hardcore fan, so I'm quite easy to satisfy when it comes to Star Wars

    7. Macil Link Parent
      I really like that the movie has a subplot where the protagonists fail their goal and return without it done, and a subplot where a rebelling character learns the lesson that they need to not...

      I really like that the movie has a subplot where the protagonists fail their goal and return without it done, and a subplot where a rebelling character learns the lesson that they need to not always rebel and need to work together with their leadership more. ... I think the execution of both of these things was pretty poor though, but I'm still giving the movie some points for those because I think those are really underused story angles nowadays.

  4. [5]
    maze Link
    I thoroughly enjoy making and updating spreadsheets. I even spreadsheet my own life and personal goals.

    I thoroughly enjoy making and updating spreadsheets. I even spreadsheet my own life and personal goals.

    17 votes
    1. Octofox Link Parent
      I enjoy the thought of making spread sheets to track things and then never getting around to actually doing it. The only one I have bothered to make is one tracking the maintenance cost of my bike...

      I enjoy the thought of making spread sheets to track things and then never getting around to actually doing it. The only one I have bothered to make is one tracking the maintenance cost of my bike and the number of km done when each part was replaced/upgraded.

      5 votes
    2. [3]
      hungariantoast Link Parent
      As a compulsive note taker who has recently been trying to organize their rambles and writings into an organized system, what is it about spreadsheets that you like?

      As a compulsive note taker who has recently been trying to organize their rambles and writings into an organized system, what is it about spreadsheets that you like?

      2 votes
      1. [2]
        maze Link Parent
        I used to keep a journal (technically still do), but going back through a journal to identify Trends or determine what happened on a specific day is not very effective. So I started keeping a...

        I used to keep a journal (technically still do), but going back through a journal to identify Trends or determine what happened on a specific day is not very effective.

        So I started keeping a spreadsheet to track everything from my language studies to my programming to my art to my exercise routine to my intake of caffeine and alcohol Etc.

        Originally I had done this to set up myself for identifying some good New Year's resolutions, but it has just become something that I do everyday in the evening before I sit down to relax. The thing that is nice about a spreadsheet is that you can really see how your behavior Maps out.

        My best advice is to not be too hard on yourself if things start to Trend in the negative, just identify that it is something that needs to be improved on and watch it look better on your spreadsheet in the days that follow.

        Also, it's great for budgeting and saving.

        4 votes
        1. Algernon_Asimov Link Parent
          A while back, I started developing a spreadsheet to forecast my future financial position: would my money go up or down; how fast was it going up or down; if it was going down, how long until it...

          Also, it's great for budgeting and saving.

          A while back, I started developing a spreadsheet to forecast my future financial position: would my money go up or down; how fast was it going up or down; if it was going down, how long until it became a problem? Bit by bit, I would add to it: another subtotal here, an extra expense column there, a running average here, a 12-month future graph complete with trendline there. It became quite a complex little thing - and my finances are not very complicated! Even now that I don't need it as much any more as I did when I started it, I still maintain it. I can't bear to let it go.

          I've been spreadsheeting on and off, at work and outside work, since the late '90s, and I do perversely get enjoyment from it.

          1 vote
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    masochist Link
    Dreary, grey days. I'm really sensitive to light, so days when the sun isn't irritating my eyes are days I enjoy. I wear prescription glasses, and have lenses that transition to sunglasses in...

    Dreary, grey days. I'm really sensitive to light, so days when the sun isn't irritating my eyes are days I enjoy. I wear prescription glasses, and have lenses that transition to sunglasses in bright light, but they're not contacts so I still have isues when it's bright out. I live in Philadelphia in the northeast of the US, and when I was in Florida a few years ago, I was literally blinded by the sunlight. I could not open my eyes because it was too bright. I have similar issues with temperature. I love cold weather; I go outside in 0-3 ºC weather in light workout gear (shorts and t-shirt) and I'm fine. But I melt at anything above about 18 ºC in normal clothing. This leads to a natural proclivity to be awake during the evenings. You could say I'm a vampire and I'd not really be able to provide substantive arguments to the contrary.

    Well-done burgers, several other food things. I have a lot of weird texture issues with food, and well-done beef doesn't upset my sensitivities. On the topic of food, I tend to like really plain things. Minimal sauces (e.g. plain pasta), no cheese, that kind of thing. Again, texture issues. Something a lot of folks who aren't picky eaters don't understand is that picky eaters don't want to be picky. It's really inconvenient and often results in me needing to send food back because my particular modification was ignored (... and then there are those snobby restaurants that don't do alterations...). Contrariwise, I really like straight, undiluted, unsweetened lemon juice, I like strong flavors. When I cook, I dump absurd amounts of spices (to make another Futurama reference in this thread, think of Bender's approach to salt) into my food.

    Music without any lyrics. Most lyrics in most songs don't really speak to me because I find them boring, uninspired, repetitive, or some combination of the three. Beyond frequently not understanding them (especially in the case of a soprano), I just find myself paying more attention to the instrumentation rather than the lyrics as that's where I find the real beauty.

    The color black, especially for things where it's uncommon, like linens. This might be related to the photosensitivity I described earlier. But I also appreciate the simplicity of the color, its elegance. Similarly, I buy my clothing for function rather than fashion; I care more that I'm comfortable and not too hot more than I care about how something looks.

    Black coffee. Plain, simple black coffee, with nothing added. Granted, this requires good coffee, and the highly acidic Latin American coffee that most people drink in the west doesn't really lend itself to that kind of experience. If I'm not drinking a single-origin Ethiopian coffee, I need to put a bunch of stuff in it to hide how acidic it is. This is probably the least uncommon thing on the list, but it definitely doesn't seem like it given how popular the chemistry experiments people make at Starbucks are (I tend to call those things coffee-derived beverages since in many cases there's more not-coffee than coffee in the cup by the time the barista's done).

    Yeah, uh, I'm weird.

    15 votes
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      thisonemakesyouthink Link Parent
      I love dreary gray days for the most part! It's so much more calm and relaxed. The only problem is when it's 3PM and it's so weirdly dark and dreary it feels like 8 or something. And I actually...

      I love dreary gray days for the most part! It's so much more calm and relaxed. The only problem is when it's 3PM and it's so weirdly dark and dreary it feels like 8 or something. And I actually don't think you're as alone with the colour black anymore. Dark themes are all the rage nowadays, for computers at least!

      2 votes
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        masochist Link Parent
        I like that feeling when it's early but feels like it's later. Perfect time to curl up on the couch and play something chill and relaxing. Oof, I didn't even mention my taste for soothing,...

        I like that feeling when it's early but feels like it's later. Perfect time to curl up on the couch and play something chill and relaxing. Oof, I didn't even mention my taste for soothing, relaxing music (things most people say would put them to sleep).

        It's not just black color schemes, it's ALL THE THINGS. Furniture, clothing, linens, electronics, everything. I swear I'm not a vampire. <_<

        1 vote
        1. thisonemakesyouthink Link Parent
          Yeah, but then it's awkward cause you're just trying to chill and do your thing but it feels like you should be eating dinner or going to sleep or something and now your internal clock is ruined...

          Yeah, but then it's awkward cause you're just trying to chill and do your thing but it feels like you should be eating dinner or going to sleep or something and now your internal clock is ruined and...

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    Hypersapien Link
    Black licorice. Anchovies.

    Black licorice.

    Anchovies.

    13 votes
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      ose Link Parent
      Salty black liquorice.
      4 votes
      1. Akir Link Parent
        I see there are two of us playing the licorice game in hard mode. Or maybe one of us is just from a Nordic country. Salty black licorice is a really unique taste that you need to get used to in...

        I see there are two of us playing the licorice game in hard mode.

        Or maybe one of us is just from a Nordic country.

        Salty black licorice is a really unique taste that you need to get used to in order to enjoy.

        3 votes
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      Adys Link Parent
      Anchovies on pizza is honestly an amazing thing. It's weird because when people ask me if I like fish on a pizza I'd say "ew, no, that's disgusting"; but anchovies don't even register as fish for...

      Anchovies on pizza is honestly an amazing thing. It's weird because when people ask me if I like fish on a pizza I'd say "ew, no, that's disgusting"; but anchovies don't even register as fish for me. They're just a pizza topping.

      2 votes
      1. [2]
        Hypersapien Link Parent
        You know what's fantastic? A little bit of anchovy paste spread on a sun dried tomato.

        You know what's fantastic? A little bit of anchovy paste spread on a sun dried tomato.

        1 vote
        1. Adys Link Parent
          That sounds delicious.

          That sounds delicious.

    3. masochist Link Parent
      Black licorice is yummy! And my reaction to anchovies is similar to Zoidberg's.

      Black licorice is yummy! And my reaction to anchovies is similar to Zoidberg's.

      1 vote
    4. [2]
      elcuello Link Parent
      This really depends on where you're from (as everything I guess). Where I'm from you would be in the minority if you didn't like it. It's delicious.

      Black licorice

      This really depends on where you're from (as everything I guess). Where I'm from you would be in the minority if you didn't like it. It's delicious.

      1 vote
      1. Hypersapien Link Parent
        No one around here likes it. But when I was a kid I loved when my dad would pick me up licorice pipes.

        No one around here likes it. But when I was a kid I loved when my dad would pick me up licorice pipes.

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    nothis Link
    Raisins. I only learned a couple of years ago people hate them. Why? They're squishy, sweet and fruity!

    Raisins. I only learned a couple of years ago people hate them. Why? They're squishy, sweet and fruity!

    12 votes
    1. [2]
      thisonemakesyouthink Link Parent
      They're grapes left to dry. Who's seeking them out?

      They're grapes left to dry. Who's seeking them out?

      7 votes
      1. babypuncher Link Parent
        Wine is just grape juice left to rot. Who's seeking that out?

        Wine is just grape juice left to rot. Who's seeking that out?

        6 votes
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      1. masochist Link Parent
        Especially in oatmeal! I put raisins and dried cherries / cranberries in my oatmeal all the time.

        Especially in oatmeal! I put raisins and dried cherries / cranberries in my oatmeal all the time.

        3 votes
      2. [2]
        cfabbro Link Parent
        Except dried apricots... they are overly tough little buggers and don't taste particularly good either, IMO. Dried Banana and Apple chips are the bomb though!

        Except dried apricots... they are overly tough little buggers and don't taste particularly good either, IMO. Dried Banana and Apple chips are the bomb though!

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          1. cfabbro (edited ) Link Parent
            LOL, I have... but they are still pretty tough compared to most other dried fruit. Even dried pineapple, which you would think would be quite tough as well, has a more tender albeit somewhat...

            LOL, I have... but they are still pretty tough compared to most other dried fruit. Even dried pineapple, which you would think would be quite tough as well, has a more tender albeit somewhat crystalline/fibrous structure. Plus, as I said, I am not overly fond of the taste of apricots anyways. ;)

    3. heady Link Parent
      I had a long period of disliking them. Then after dramatically cutting my sugar intake they suddenly tasted great.

      I had a long period of disliking them. Then after dramatically cutting my sugar intake they suddenly tasted great.

      2 votes
  8. [6]
    mbc Link
    Grindcore music. People generally consider it to be barely even music, and I won't argue that. However, there's something about all that sound occurring in such a small window of time that...

    Grindcore music. People generally consider it to be barely even music, and I won't argue that. However, there's something about all that sound occurring in such a small window of time that fascinates me. I can't listen to more than an album's worth of grindcore in a sitting, but man, Brutal Truth is one of my favorite bands. It's like avant-garde jazz; it just gets my mind spinning.

    7 votes
    1. [3]
      masochist Link Parent
      Can I have Brutal Truth without the screaming that I can't understand? I think I'd like it.

      Can I have Brutal Truth without the screaming that I can't understand? I think I'd like it.

      1 vote
      1. [2]
        mbc Link Parent
        The trick is to reframe your listening so that the screaming becomes part of the music, like another instrument. I remember when it all clicked for me. It was not while listening to grindcore. I...

        The trick is to reframe your listening so that the screaming becomes part of the music, like another instrument. I remember when it all clicked for me. It was not while listening to grindcore. I was at an Isis concert (well, they were opening for the Melvins) and the vocals were mixed to be the same level as the rest of the music. Of course it was unintelligible, but that was fine.

        I think that with grindcore, the vocals kind of act like percussion. The drums tend to be so crazy fast that the rhythm gets lost, but then the vocals carry the rhythm a bit. I've never played in a grindcore band though, I might be missing the mark a little bit.

        3 votes
        1. masochist Link Parent
          Part of it is that I don't understand the vocals, part of it is that I just don't like the sound of screaming. So reframing as the vocals being another instrument doesn't really help me in this...

          Part of it is that I don't understand the vocals, part of it is that I just don't like the sound of screaming. So reframing as the vocals being another instrument doesn't really help me in this particular case.

          2 votes
    2. thisonemakesyouthink Link Parent
      Eh, I'm just not a fan of overly loud and heavy music in general. More of a rap/hip hop guy.

      Eh, I'm just not a fan of overly loud and heavy music in general. More of a rap/hip hop guy.

    3. Happy_Shredder Link Parent
      Yeah there's just so much energy in grind it can be exhausting. But that's what's so awesome: particularly the original punk-based stuff, so much concentrated fury.

      Yeah there's just so much energy in grind it can be exhausting. But that's what's so awesome: particularly the original punk-based stuff, so much concentrated fury.

  9. tomf Link
    I love folding towels. One night at a hotel I was watching how one of the staff was folding them by the pool, and it was not only really efficient, but it also looked better. Its nothing fancy --...

    I love folding towels. One night at a hotel I was watching how one of the staff was folding them by the pool, and it was not only really efficient, but it also looked better. Its nothing fancy -- but I love it.

    Basically, take your bath towel, fold it in half lengthwise, fold it again lengthwise, then fold into three. Its a perfect fit for my cupboards and the soft edge looks great.

    7 votes
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    papasquat Link
    Evanescence. I don't know if everyone hates them or if it's just all of my friends and my wife. I fully understand that they were one of the go to bands for angsty, melodramatic teens of the 90s,...

    Evanescence. I don't know if everyone hates them or if it's just all of my friends and my wife. I fully understand that they were one of the go to bands for angsty, melodramatic teens of the 90s, and although I was a teen in the 90s, I didn't really like Evanescence at the time, nor was I, or am I angsty or melodramatic. I just think Amy Lee has an amazing voice and their songs are well constructed.

    6 votes
    1. [7]
      cfabbro Link Parent
      That sounds like grounds for a divorce! :P Evanescence is amazing. Seether - Broken ft. Amy Lee is still one of my all time favorite songs. Another few "everyone I know seems to hate them but I...

      That sounds like grounds for a divorce! :P Evanescence is amazing. Seether - Broken ft. Amy Lee is still one of my all time favorite songs.

      Another few "everyone I know seems to hate them but I still love them" bands from the same era for me are Linkin Park, Staind, Puddle of Mudd and Creed. Even the most despised band at the time, Nickelback, isn't really so bad either, TBH.

      1. [3]
        papasquat Link Parent
        A few of those bands are my guilty pleasures as well. I like Linkin Park a lot. They may even be one of my top 10 bands. Creed and Nickleback don't really do it for me (I can't stand that...

        A few of those bands are my guilty pleasures as well. I like Linkin Park a lot. They may even be one of my top 10 bands. Creed and Nickleback don't really do it for me (I can't stand that "reerrroerrrrrorr" thing they do with their voices).

        I will fully defend that nu-metal as a genre is not that bad and that everyone hates it just because its the popular thing to do.

        I swear I'm an upstanding citizen though! I don't wear flame button up shirts or spike my hair or wear sunglasses on the back of my head! Honest!

        1 vote
        1. cfabbro (edited ) Link Parent
          Ouch... straight to the heart. I was guilty of rocking that look in the 2000s, including the stereotypical Phat pants, and the later era Fred Durst style oversized khaki shorts with knee high...

          I swear I'm an upstanding citizen though! I don't wear flame button up shirts or spike my hair or wear sunglasses on the back of my head!

          Ouch... straight to the heart. I was guilty of rocking that look in the 2000s, including the stereotypical Phat pants, and the later era Fred Durst style oversized khaki shorts with knee high white socks and kicks. Ugh... 🤢

          p.s. RIP Chester. His music was a super important part of my life growing up. :( Linkin Park is easily in my top 10 as well.

        2. Akir Link Parent
          I'm honestly amazed when people are ashamed that they like these kinds of bands. "It's so embarassing that I enjoy this award-winning triple-platinum selling group!" That sounds crazy to me. It's...

          I'm honestly amazed when people are ashamed that they like these kinds of bands. "It's so embarassing that I enjoy this award-winning triple-platinum selling group!" That sounds crazy to me.

          It's far more embarassing when you are like me and really enjoy DC Talk (even though I'm adamantly atheistic) and Dragostea Din Tei (AKA "Numa Numa") is my anthem.

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        hamstergeddon Link Parent
        I will go to my grave believing that "My Own Prison" is an incredibly underrated album. I think it got overshadowed by the more popular (and less heavy) "Human Clay" and "Weathered". Now if you'll...

        I will go to my grave believing that "My Own Prison" is an incredibly underrated album. I think it got overshadowed by the more popular (and less heavy) "Human Clay" and "Weathered".

        Now if you'll excuse me I'm going to listen to Creed on spotify (in a private session so nobody can see)

        1 vote
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          cfabbro Link Parent
          Indeed. One in particular is a criminally underrated song, IMO. Milquetoast, far-from-subtle Christian rock aspects aside, I still love Creed and am not ashamed to admit it! :P

          Indeed. One in particular is a criminally underrated song, IMO. Milquetoast, far-from-subtle Christian rock aspects aside, I still love Creed and am not ashamed to admit it! :P

          1 vote
          1. hamstergeddon Link Parent
            Hey, I'm only ashamed to admit it without the veil of anonymity :P

            Hey, I'm only ashamed to admit it without the veil of anonymity :P

            1 vote
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    1. mbc Link Parent
      How do you feel about "God Hates Us All?" I hate both of these Slayer records, I'm just curious what you as a Diabolus fan think about it.

      How do you feel about "God Hates Us All?"

      I hate both of these Slayer records, I'm just curious what you as a Diabolus fan think about it.

  12. [2]
    NeonHippy Link
    Cats. Seriously. A lot of people say they hate cats, and I truly don't understand why. Cats are the best, and I don't know what I'd do without mine. They have kept me from planning suicide on four...

    Cats. Seriously. A lot of people say they hate cats, and I truly don't understand why. Cats are the best, and I don't know what I'd do without mine. They have kept me from planning suicide on four occasions so I really owe my little furry buddies my life.

    4 votes
    1. thisonemakesyouthink Link Parent
      Certainly not an unpopular opinion, it's just that people who are neutral about cats never bring it up.

      Certainly not an unpopular opinion, it's just that people who are neutral about cats never bring it up.

      3 votes
  13. [3]
    Elmo Link
    I really like The Matrix Revolutions. It's not the strongest in the trilogy by any stretch, and it's certainly not my favourite, but I think the shtick it gets for being terrible is harsh. Don't...

    I really like The Matrix Revolutions. It's not the strongest in the trilogy by any stretch, and it's certainly not my favourite, but I think the shtick it gets for being terrible is harsh.

    Don't read on if you don't want a few spoilers. Also if you haven't watched The Matrix trilogy you really should!

    Smith crossing into the real world as Bane, the battle for Zion, and the final battle between Smith and Neo are all stand out scenes for me. I'm slightly not ashamed to admit I cried the first time I watched Trinity die. I also appreciated seeing more of the real world, it feels like it fleshes out the universe. The one gripe I do have is Neo's powers extending into the real world, it really doesn't make sense to me. It's shown at one point he can be wirelessly connected to the Matrix, but it isn't explained how, and it doesn't explain how that allows him to blow up machines with his mind.

    3 votes
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      SAKO4444GODZ Link Parent
      One theory is that neo never left the matrix, and that it had multiple layers.

      One theory is that neo never left the matrix, and that it had multiple layers.

      1 vote
      1. Elmo Link Parent
        Ooh now that's a cool theory, I've not heard that one before. Aren't they making some new films in the Matrix universe? It would be interesting if they expanded on that idea.

        Ooh now that's a cool theory, I've not heard that one before. Aren't they making some new films in the Matrix universe? It would be interesting if they expanded on that idea.

        2 votes
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      Zargurkhan Link Parent
      I'm guessing you mean to reply to the comment about sport bikes, but you posted it as a new top-level comment (leading me to reading it a couple times over trying to make sense of it :P ).

      I'm guessing you mean to reply to the comment about sport bikes, but you posted it as a new top-level comment (leading me to reading it a couple times over trying to make sense of it :P ).

      5 votes
  15. [8]
    ThatFanficGuy Link
    I have two offenders from the "Movies" category. One is Power Rangers, the 2017 one. People loathe it for a variety of reasons, but I thought it was a-okay. It had a human side and the exploration...

    I have two offenders from the "Movies" category.

    One is Power Rangers, the 2017 one. People loathe it for a variety of reasons, but I thought it was a-okay. It had a human side and the exploration of what it's like to be a teenager in the US right about now (see: the intro, and Kimberly's backstory) that I rarely get to see elsewhere. It had cool sci-fi tech, and a decent background into what makes Power Rangers what they are. They had shown the gruesome training, and a justified – and satisfying – rise to the higher level of ability.

    Another is Bad Ass. Few have probably seen it, 'cause it seems to have been very low-key, had little promotion or exposure. It stars Danny Trejo (who is the main reason I had to see the film) as the titular Bad Ass – a Vietnam vet in his 50s who became famous after a video of him curbstomping two skinheads in a public bus went viral. His sudden fame and the new-found purpose in life – to act as a vigilante where official law enforcement will not be able to act – drives him to solve a major conspiracy in the city.

    The reason I like it so much is that it takes itself unbelievably seriously. It's nothing more than a B-movie, but its production value elevates it above the rest. Its cinematography is well beyond expectations, its intro sequence is surprisingly well-designed, and... really, I had a blast watching how it tries to posit itself as a serious film. It's one of the its-so-bad-its-good films.

    It's not that I'm blind to the faults of both films. I can see them – but I don't care. Deep down, I like them, and that's all that matters.

    In particular, I think Power Rangers has a future. It has a cool background to explore, with a deeper dive into the tech and the history of their world. It may be a flashy action flick for the most part, but what endeared me to it is that it has a heart the next film has the potential to expand. I would like to see that.

    2 votes
    1. TheJorro Link Parent
      I really, really enjoyed that new Power Rangers movie. Loved everything they did with it, which I didn't expect. I thought it would be crappy cheesefest of a movie but the writing was surprisingly...

      I really, really enjoyed that new Power Rangers movie. Loved everything they did with it, which I didn't expect. I thought it would be crappy cheesefest of a movie but the writing was surprisingly clever in many places, and the changes to the characters were excellent. Billy as an autistic character was genius, I think. Many parents of austistic children I work with really, really loved that portrayal, especially after they saw how their children responded to it.

      Ridiculous, child-friendly, Power Rangers action but with plenty of material for all ages. Honestly, I thought it was one of the best childhood nostalgia movies made, not one of the worst.

      2 votes
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      hamstergeddon Link Parent
      I'm surprised that people expected more than that from a movie based on what was essentially a 30 minute toy commercial from the "eXtreme" decade that was the 90s.

      It may be a flashy action flick for the most part

      I'm surprised that people expected more than that from a movie based on what was essentially a 30 minute toy commercial from the "eXtreme" decade that was the 90s.

      1. [3]
        ThatFanficGuy Link Parent
        Have you not seen the extremely-prolific TV series? I grew up watching it. A lot of people did, it seems.

        Have you not seen the extremely-prolific TV series? I grew up watching it. A lot of people did, it seems.

        1 vote
        1. [2]
          hamstergeddon Link Parent
          Yeah I grew up on it until I tried to dropkick my little brother. From that day on I wasn't allowed to watch it anymore :( Not knocking the show, just saying it doesn't make sense that people have...

          Yeah I grew up on it until I tried to dropkick my little brother. From that day on I wasn't allowed to watch it anymore :(

          Not knocking the show, just saying it doesn't make sense that people have such high expectations from movies whose source material is a kids show built around the idea of selling toys. I feel the same way about Transformers, TMNT, etc. Sometimes it's okay for movies to be action-packed and flashy and not much else.

          2 votes
          1. ThatFanficGuy Link Parent
            What a waste. :( You clearly have latent Power Ranger talents. Your parents should've let you visit a dojo. I don't know whether it were high expectations, but people were vocally disappointed...

            From that day on I wasn't allowed to watch it anymore :(

            What a waste. :( You clearly have latent Power Ranger talents. Your parents should've let you visit a dojo.

            I don't know whether it were high expectations, but people were vocally disappointed around the time of release. It looked nice in the trailer.

            Personally, I feel like the film turned out to be rather thin on content. They could've easily told the same – or even denser – story within smaller runtime. I understand why people would be upset.

            There was also the nostalgia hype that a lot of people ride on nowadays. A lot of old series and titles are making a comeback because people want to see more of the old stuff, but in high resolution. Maybe people got upset that their beloved childhood TV series was so shallow – even though the series was even closer to elevation zero.

            1 vote
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      Akir Link Parent
      While that is typically a good thing for a movie, it really wasn't for this one. Current teenagers are not the audience for a Power Rangers movie that is supposed to be based off the series from...

      It had a human side and the exploration of what it's like to be a teenager in the US right about now

      While that is typically a good thing for a movie, it really wasn't for this one. Current teenagers are not the audience for a Power Rangers movie that is supposed to be based off the series from several decades ago. People in their 30s and 40s don't typically care much for teenagers unless they have their own.

      1. ThatFanficGuy Link Parent
        Wrong thread, yo. This is the topic where people express their enjoyment of less-commonly-enjoyed things – not where they attempt to defend the indefensible.

        Wrong thread, yo. This is the topic where people express their enjoyment of less-commonly-enjoyed things – not where they attempt to defend the indefensible.

        1 vote
  16. PineappleMan Link
    Traveling alone. Don't get me wrong, I love traveling with my (brand new) wife, but I think that you get to please yourself with whatever you are doing...be it food, or specific points of interest...

    Traveling alone.

    Don't get me wrong, I love traveling with my (brand new) wife, but I think that you get to please yourself with whatever you are doing...be it food, or specific points of interest without having to yield to anyone else..... I just love it.

    She doesn't know Tildes but I hope she never reads this hehehe.

    2 votes
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    S7272C655 Link
    I really like Fall Out Boy's new music. I didn't like their stuff when it was really popular, around middle school-age for me, but when they released American Beauty/American Psycho, it really...

    I really like Fall Out Boy's new music. I didn't like their stuff when it was really popular, around middle school-age for me, but when they released American Beauty/American Psycho, it really roped me in, and I've enjoyed everything they've done post-hiatus, with only a few songs that I like pre-hiatus. It's definitely the playlist on my phone that I don't play when someone passes me the aux cord, but I really wish I could, haha.

    1 vote
    1. Akir Link Parent
      A while back I was on my rare occasions where I listen to commercial radio and there was a short interview with the band members about the process of creating their latest song. They said...

      A while back I was on my rare occasions where I listen to commercial radio and there was a short interview with the band members about the process of creating their latest song. They said something like "Using samples in rock music is kind of taboo, so we decided to write our whole song around one". It was wrong on so many levels that I instantly gave up on them.

      That being said, I'm not going to shame you for your choice of music. I may think they're dumb, but there are many songs I like specifically because they are dumb, so I get it.

      1 vote
    2. thisonemakesyouthink Link Parent
      I think FOB has a lot of talent, even in their new stuff. Although I don't actively listen to it, I can appreciate it and enjoy it if it comes on.

      I think FOB has a lot of talent, even in their new stuff. Although I don't actively listen to it, I can appreciate it and enjoy it if it comes on.

  18. cadadr Link
    Walking, wandering. For some reason, most people just hate using their feet to go from A to B. Or they are working out, having a walk or jog for that. It's not just because they want to walk...

    Walking, wandering. For some reason, most people just hate using their feet to go from A to B. Or they are working out, having a walk or jog for that. It's not just because they want to walk around, see around the city, landscape, and be alone with themselves, or with some company. It's preferable to spend hours seated at a cafe or home watching a dumb movie, but walking around is a chore.

    Expanding on that same theme, people also hate being alone, they search compulsively for company, either people physically around them or over social media and other communication tools. Many (most) people are constantly chatting to multiple people over one or even many media. I, OTOH, quickly feel overwhelmed when I have to have prolonged conversations over the phone and through messaging; and like having some (quite some, TBH) time with myself, thinking, reading, walking around and wandering, etc.

    1 vote