-
45 votes
-
Former Uvalde Texas school police chief, officer indicted in 1st-ever criminal charges over failed response to 2022 mass shooting
43 votes -
US Supreme Court makes it harder to charge Capitol riot defendants with obstruction, charge Donald Trump faces
24 votes -
US Supreme Court rejects liability shield at center of Purdue Pharma settlement
31 votes -
Music record labels sue AI song-generators Suno and Udio for copyright infringement
15 votes -
Internet Archive forced to remove 500,000 books after publishers’ court win
59 votes -
US military must face lawsuit over discharge of LGBTQ veterans
28 votes -
US Supreme Court rejects states agreement over Rio grande water distribution
16 votes -
Adobe TOS: I'm an artist. I have never used Adobe Cloud software. What happens if someone else uploads my content?
Second edit: It has been pointed out that my collaborators don't necessarily need to upload my files in order to work on them, and that the bigger the project/organisation, the more likely they...
Second edit: It has been pointed out that my collaborators don't necessarily need to upload my files in order to work on them, and that the bigger the project/organisation, the more likely they are using their own system for managing content rather than the Adobe Creative Cloud. I didn't realise that not using the CC is an option. In conclusion, I can still collaborate with Adobe's customers as long as I ask them to never upload my work to the Adobe CC.
Edit: After sleeping on this, here's my biggest gripe with terms like these.
Regardless of the contents of Adobe's TOS, I cannot be forced to accept them as long as I'm not their customer. Similarly, people who don't use an imaginary social media app called "Twitter" can't be subjected to Twitter's terms of service even if for some reason Twitter had access to these people's data. If Twitter wants to make an agreement with non-customers, they must get these people's explicit consent. Writing stuff in their TOS doesn't cut it because those are directed at customers. Corporations absolutely can't have the right to make me a customer without my informed consent.
As it stands, given Adobe's market share, I would either have to accept their terms when it comes to my work that gets uploaded by third parties, or I can never get my work published again. This is completely unacceptable. Even if the terms were the most gracious and reasonable terms anyone has ever seen (which they aren't), I would still have the right to refuse them. This right cannot be taken away from me. Adobe has done nothing to show how they intend to separate non-customer content from customer content, which most likely means they have no plans to do so and certainly aren't doing it at the moment.
Organisations that are Adobe customers and want to publish/edit content produced by non-customers will have an insurmountably tough task trying to draft a solid contract with these people. In order to protect themselves from future disputes, they will have to get explicit consent for everything that I quoted in this post, for all imaginable and unimaginable purposes. The rest of the TOS (the parts that I didn't quote) is legally too fuzzy to be put in a contract, and as far as I know, the term "generative AI" doesn't even have a legal definition yet. Essentially, Adobe is making their own customers do their dirty work for them. Good luck with that.
Original post:
Adobe receives an unrestricted license to use all uploaded content however they please, according to their TOS.Let's say I am a professional photographer, but I don't use Adobe software to edit my work because I don't want to grant Adobe a license to do whatever they want with it. Now, let's say that High End Art Magazine wants to publish some of my photos in their Hot New Photo Artists section. Most likely they are using Adobe software. To create the magazine layout, they are going to have to upload my photos. I haven't used Adobe since they put everything in the cloud, so I wouldn't know how the process actually works, but I doubt that Adobe asks about the ownership of each uploaded file. Do they? The magazine editor does not have the right to grant Adobe any sort of license to my work. It's not their content, they are merely presenting it. The end result: Adobe has content on their servers that they do not have a license to use however they wish, no matter what they put in their TOS, and they most likely have no way to tell this content apart from the rest.
The above example is simplified. I am actually not a photographer, but an artist in another field. Publishing my work involves images that are put together by a team of people, each of whom must be able to deny using the resulting photo without their explicit consent. How can cases like these be handled? If I care about how and where my and my team's work is used, will I have to stop collaborating with anyone who uses Adobe products? Even that won't necessarily protect us. Uninformed people can still grab an image form somewhere and use it for a school project or something. This used to be okay as long as you didn't publish the result, let alone try to profit from it financially. But now, if you use Adobe software to edit your project, ethically you can only use unlicensed content as your source material and everything else is off limits.
From the Adobe TOS:
...you grant us a non-exclusive, worldwide, royalty-free license to do the following with your Cloud Content:
reproduce
distribute
create derivative works
publicly display
publicly perform and
sublicense the foregoing rights to third parties acting on our behalfAnd:
“Content” means any text, information, communication, or material, such as audio files, video files, electronic documents, or images, that you upload, import into, embed for use by, or create using the Services and Software.
To be clear, I get that the TOS is meant to enable Adobe to run their services in the cloud. At least for now. But there are no guarantees that this will remain the sole purpose of that license. I prefer to simply not grant them any sort of license to use my work. Obviously, I must have a right to deny corporations such a license for whatever reason, at all times.
For comparison, when I started using Reddit, I read through their TOS and decided that it looked predatory. I have always refrained from posting things that I wouldn't want them to use for extracting financial gain. I was happy about that decision last year.
Does anyone know if the Adobe TOS are different for organisations that routinely handle large amounts of content that they do not own the rights to?
42 votes -
How to get your stuff repaired when the retailer and manufacturer don't wanna: take 'em to court
20 votes -
The Tesla party was fun; now comes the lawsuit driven hangover
24 votes -
Crown Prosecution Service (UK public prosecutor) lawyers still “victim-blame” in rape cases, report says
14 votes -
Banana giant corporation Chiquita held liable by US court for funding paramilitaries
38 votes -
Publishers sue Google over pirate sites selling textbooks
20 votes -
Amanda Knox convicted in slander retrial over 2007 killing
24 votes -
‘Baby Reindeer’s’ alleged ‘real Martha’ sues Netflix, demanding at least $170 million in damages
16 votes -
Elon Musk accused of massive insider trading at Tesla in shareholder lawsuit
35 votes -
Jury finds Boeing stole technology from electric airplane startup Zunum
26 votes -
The US Supreme Court case that could impact the homeless coast-to-coast
25 votes -
Former US President Donald Trump has been found guilty of thirty-four counts of falsifying business records to influence the outcome of the 2016 election
182 votes -
The financial reports that led to the investigations against Michael Cohen and then Donald Trump - leading to the conviction in New York
11 votes -
US judge denies request to restrict Donald Trump statements that could endanger law enforcement in classified records case
23 votes -
US sues Hyundai for child labor in Alabama
50 votes -
Spotify won’t open-source to-be-bricked Car Thing, but starts refund process amid lawsuit
21 votes -
WASPI [Women Against State Pension Inequality] Campaign's legal action is morally wrong
3 votes -
Atlanta police surveil people opposing ‘Cop City’
17 votes -
US lawyers warned plastics makers to prepare for a wave of litigation over "forever chemicals" that could dwarf asbestos
27 votes -
US Department of Justice could seek break up of Live Nation-Ticketmaster, Bloomberg News reports
60 votes -
Who gets paid? How much? What to know about the landmark NCAA settlement.
6 votes -
Live Nation sued by US DOJ over alleged Ticketmaster 'monopoly'
29 votes -
Today is the UK courts decision day on Julian Assange's extradition to the US
30 votes -
Norway sued over deep-sea mining plans – WWF says the government has breached the law without adequately assessing the consequences
6 votes -
University suspends students for AI homework tool it gave them $10,000 prize to make
46 votes -
Indiana judge rules tacos, burritos are sandwiches
32 votes -
Exxon Mobil is suing its shareholders to silence them about global warming
33 votes -
Wisconsin lawsuit settlement makes new emails public regarding pro Donald Trump fake electors scheme in 2020
17 votes -
India's butter chicken battle heats up with new court evidence
11 votes -
Donald Trump hush money trial: What criminal charges does he face?
16 votes -
A British nurse was found guilty of killing seven babies. Did she do it?
19 votes -
Dutch singer and rapper Joost Klein disqualified from Eurovision song contest because of incident involving female member of production crew
12 votes -
The aggressive Arizona grand jury that indicted Donald Trump's allies
6 votes -
Musi’s free music streaming app is a hit with thrifty teens. The app claims to tap content on YouTube, but some in the music industry question the legitimacy of that model.
18 votes -
Case before Norway's Supreme Court claims that depriving sex offender of a Snapchat account is unlawful under the European Convention on Human Rights
15 votes -
Was there a trojan horse hidden in Section 230 all along that could enable adversarial interoperability?
16 votes -
US v. Google: As landmark 'monopoly power' trial closes, here's what to look for
21 votes -
‘The science isn’t there’: do dating apps really help us find our soulmate?
31 votes -
A lawsuit argues Meta is required by law to let you control your own feed
30 votes -
Philips agrees to pay $1 billion to patients who say they were injured by breathing machines
31 votes -
Car tracking can enable domestic abuse. Turning it off is easier said than done.
15 votes -
Germany’s robotic stores must rest on Sundays, too
22 votes