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Do you think "incivility" can be used as a tool for positive change?
I have been reading a lot of the articles on uncivility. A big complaint is politicians don't like the power it gives people. Which I understand can be bad, but it also seems like for the first...
I have been reading a lot of the articles on uncivility. A big complaint is politicians don't like the power it gives people. Which I understand can be bad, but it also seems like for the first time in a long time, the average person has a way to impact these high powered politicians. Ordinarily there is nothing we can do, we can't touch them when they continually do things not in the best interest of the people they represent. They do shady things, and we have to go with it.
They are arguing uncivility is dangerous because it creates the problem of officials being scared to make decisions based on how they will be impacted. If a judge rules one way, and the masses start making his life hard, they say it isn't really fair to the judge. Which makes sense.
This is the information age. We have access to so much more going on than adults did before us. We actually have platforms to be heard on a large scale. Which means pressuring these people to do right through "uncivility" could be harnessed and used positively to enforce change. If the people making these decisions that are not in our best interest have something to lose, maybe they will finally start doing right by us.
What are your thoughts on this aspect of the uncivility debate going on right now?
16 votes -
Whistleblower leaks video from detention facility where children were threatened against speaking to press
17 votes -
How James Comey intervened to kill WikiLeaks' US immunity deal
4 votes -
Australia to spend nearly $7 billion buying unmanned military planes from America
5 votes -
Chinese tech giant Huawei revealed as leading sponsor of travel for Australian MPs
3 votes -
'The Expanse' co-author Daniel Abraham tells the inside story about sci-fi books, TV … and politics
8 votes -
In Turkish election, jailed candidate seeks presidency and to keep Recep Tayyip Erdoğan's party below majority in parliament
14 votes -
BMW joins Airbus in Brexit warning
8 votes -
Venezuela crisis: UN says security forces killed hundreds
12 votes -
China just handed the world a 111-million-ton trash problem
17 votes -
Ethiopian prime minister vows to stick to reforms after explosion at rally. Abiy Ahmed commented on Addis Ababa blast that killed one and injured more than 100, saying ‘killing others is a defeat’.
7 votes -
A world for all of us, not just the billionaires
12 votes -
First lady’s ‘I don’t care’ jacket causes a stir
14 votes -
DOJ: Trump's immigration crackdown 'diverting' resources from drug cases
6 votes -
Send them to Taiwan: Turnbull government's secret refugee deal revealed
2 votes -
Algeria shuts down the internet for two hours to prevent leaks and cheating on exams
9 votes -
US President Donald Trump proposes ending the crisis he created by creating another crisis -- The proposed executive order ending family separation is just here to create more hostages
11 votes -
Who here is eligible to vote but not registered to vote?
The USA in particular has one of the lowest voter turnouts and the lowest registration levels of most developed countries....
The USA in particular has one of the lowest voter turnouts and the lowest registration levels of most developed countries.
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2018/05/21/u-s-voter-turnout-trails-most-developed-countries/
In 2016 only 61% of eligible citizens voted and only 70% were registered.
https://www.census.gov/data/tables/time-series/demo/voting-and-registration/p20-580.html
And that was a good year.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_turnout#Trends_of_decreasing_turnout_since_the_1980s
10 votes -
ABC will launch a ‘Roseanne’ spinoff without Roseanne in it
9 votes -
Violence keeps Central Americans coming to US despite Trump
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The identifying terms we use (and the political history behind them)
Today's political climate has all sorts of terms being thrown around with varying meanings and history behind them. There are Liberals (political ideology for FREEDUM), and Liberals (foreign...
Today's political climate has all sorts of terms being thrown around with varying meanings and history behind them. There are Liberals (political ideology for FREEDUM), and Liberals (foreign policy), and Liberals (economic policy), and Liberals ("conservatives"), and Liberals ("centrist, anti-absolute monarchists"), and Liberals ("democrats"), and Liberals (some other field that annoys the shit out of me). There are Progressives, and Conservatives, Nationalists, Socialists, Social Democrats, unreconstructed Monarchists, Reconstructed Monarchists, Anarchists, and I'm sure some other political identity that I've missed.
So, given the rather long list of ways to identify politically, and the just about as long history for those ways to identify politically, I thought we should have a discussion focused exclusively on the political history of the terms we used.
So, the questions:
1. What terms do you commonly use to describe yourself and others in your political environment? 2. What is the relevant history that informs the way you use common political terms to describe yourself and others? 3. Got any links, movies, books, etc., that delve into that history?
This has the potential to get hairy because of how broad it is, so I'm going to try to remind people of some best practices that I use when engaging in meaningful discussion:
- Understand before criticizing. - Be able to frame someone's view in a way that they can agree with themselves before critiquing their view. Questions are your friend, but make sure the questions are focused on better understanding someone's view, not on biasing reactions to a view.
- Assume good faith. - Calling people "trolls" makes me very angry. Don't do it. For any reason. To anyone. If your case is so bulletproof that you'd be willing to call someone out for it here, take it to @Deimos instead. I don't want to read it here.
- I Could Be Wrong - There is nothing wrong with having confidence in your view, but there should be some part of you that recognizes you can be wrong about whatever claim you make. Nothing is 100%. Absolutely Only Sith Deal In Absolutes, etc.
11 votes -
How Identity, Not Issues, Explains the Partisan Divide
4 votes -
Migrants and refugees are good for economies: Analysis of thirty years of data from Western Europe refutes suggestions that asylum seekers pose a financial burden
6 votes -
Jeff Sessions: "We don't want to separate parents from kids"
6 votes -
US President Donald Trump's new executive order on immigration is not a "reversal": The mass detention and deportation of asylum-seekers has been his plan all along
5 votes -
California's Net Neutrality bill has been gutted
26 votes -
Senate passes sweeping income tax cut plan
4 votes -
Victoria passes Aboriginal treaty bill
3 votes -
In reversal, Trump signs order stopping family separation
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We don't lock people in cages
I'm a bit behind the news cycle, but I saw the first images of the families being separated on the news last night. I'm aghast. I'm just so utterly confused. Not addressing the issue of...
I'm a bit behind the news cycle, but I saw the first images of the families being separated on the news last night. I'm aghast. I'm just so utterly confused. Not addressing the issue of immigration or even the splitting up of families...
We don't fucking lock people in cages.
(Sidepoint: I know prisons exist, but this is a very different situation.)
36 votes -
Sara Netanyahu, wife of Israeli Prime Minister, charged with fraud
4 votes -
Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin plan to meet in mid-July
5 votes -
Majority of Australians believe migration levels too high
2 votes -
‘Modern Family, ‘Family Guy’ producers say they’re ‘disgusted’ and ‘embarrassed’ to work for Fox
11 votes -
This is not America? Oh, yes, it is: Neil Macdonald
6 votes -
‘Today I renounce my membership’: Longtime GOP strategist Steve Schmidt announces he’s leaving the party
17 votes -
EU to members: Prepare for no deal Brexit
3 votes -
The intellectual we deserve: Jordan Peterson’s popularity is the sign of a deeply impoverished political and intellectual landscape
7 votes -
I know why poor Whites chant Trump, Trump, Trump: From the era of slavery to the rise of Donald Trump, wealthy elites have relied on the loyalty of poor whites. All Americans deserve better
6 votes -
EU to impose tariffs on $3.2 billion of US goods starting Friday
5 votes -
The US withdrawal from the UN Human Rights Council leaves ally Australia in an awkward, lonely position
3 votes -
Youngest US migrants held in ‘tender age’ shelters
15 votes -
China's social credit system has blocked people from taking eleven million flights and four million train trips
13 votes -
Labor confirms it will oppose 'irresponsible' ten-year Australian tax package
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Abuse of power: The truth about sexual harassment in Westminster
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Are any of your political or social views exhausting to defend?
This thread isn't supposed to be about debating issues, just more of a conversation about the consequences/responsibilities for holding certain views. So what's the best way to talk to people with...
This thread isn't supposed to be about debating issues, just more of a conversation about the consequences/responsibilities for holding certain views. So what's the best way to talk to people with fundamentally different values from you?
38 votes -
"The ABC is an indulgence we can no longer afford"
There's been a bit of a fuss about the Australian Broadcasting Commission over the past week or so, since the Federal Council of the Liberal Party passed a (non-binding) resolution that the ABC...
There's been a bit of a fuss about the Australian Broadcasting Commission over the past week or so, since the Federal Council of the Liberal Party passed a (non-binding) resolution that the ABC should be privatised.
In this context, I found this opinion piece by the President of the Young Liberals, explaining why he thinks "the ABC is an indulgence we can no longer afford", and thought it was an interesting read.
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What the stock market's most crucial week of the year tells us about the road ahead
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Macedonia changes name, ending bitter dispute with Greece. Leaders sign historic accord that will lead to country becoming Republic of North Macedonia.
14 votes