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Anyone here in or familiar with Denver and the surrounding area? Going on a trip and have zero idea what to do as a non-tourist...
Ok, so the "Going on a trip and have zero idea what to do as a non-tourist..." isn't entirely true like it was in my post about NYC last year, but everyone was extremely helpful and threw out...
Ok, so the "Going on a trip and have zero idea what to do as a non-tourist..." isn't entirely true like it was in my post about NYC last year, but everyone was extremely helpful and threw out suggestions I wouldn't have even thought about looking for. So here I am again to bug you wonderful people for Tildes Travel Guide 2: Electric Denver Boogaloo
Same as before, staying for a week, I do have a rental car this time (trying to decide between the comfort of a Lexus or sportiness of an Alfa Romeo, damn car guy indecisiveness) so transport is less of an issue, anything that you'd suggest to see/do?
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Colorado becomes first state to pass “right to repair” law for farmers
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My first electric road trip into rural Colorado
Last weekend, my girlfriend and I drove down to attend the Monte Vista Sandhill Crane Festival. It's a roughly 4 hour/200 mile drive from Denver down to Monte Vista, with lots of variation in...
Last weekend, my girlfriend and I drove down to attend the Monte Vista Sandhill Crane Festival. It's a roughly 4 hour/200 mile drive from Denver down to Monte Vista, with lots of variation in elevation. I got a Tesla Model Y last June, and since then haven't really had the chance to go out into the remote mountains of Colorado with it.
This weekend would be my first such excursion. Getting down to Monte Vista is absolutely no problem. At about the halfway point in the trip, there's a Tesla Supercharger. That, combined with the range of the car meant that conserving battery was no problem at all.
I was worried, however, about how the car would fare down in Monte Vista for the three days we would be there for the festival. There are no charging stations of any kind in downtown Monte Vista itself (though there are a couple of slow chargers on the outskirts of town, slow chargers with nothing around them are kind of useless). However, there were fast chargers in the towns nearby! One in Del Norte, and another couple in Alamosa, both a 20 minute drive out of Monte Vista. My plan was to charge up at those every evening while we were down there.
On the trip there, we left Denver at 100% SoC, and the battery and cabin preheated for 30 minutes beforehand. We arrived at the Poncha Springs supercharger with about 17% SoC, plugged in and charged to 90%, which took about 40 minutes. The reason for charging this high was because I wasn't sure what state the non-Tesla fast chargers would be at when we got down to our destination area. My plan was to head from Poncha Springs toward the Del Norte fast charger; arrive at 60% and charge back up to 90% before driving around to look for the cranes.
We arrived in Del Norte at 60% SoC as expected, but we found the one fast charger already occupied when we got there. Thankfully, we waited less than 5 minutes for the owners to get back finish charging, after which I was able to plug in and start charging.
This charger was advertised as a 62 kW charger, but for the hour we spent charging there, the charge rate never went above 30. I'm sure part of this was that I was charging from 60-90%, and part of it was that it was cold out, and the Tesla lacks the ability to precondition the battery en route to non-Tesla fast chargers. We ended up charging there for about an hour to get the same charge that the supercharger gave us in 15-ish minutes.
Luckily, there was a brewery/pizzeria and a neat antique shop just a block away.
At some point in the trip, I became aware through Plugshare that the fast chargers down in Alamosa were being taken down that weekend for upgrades. They were installing more stalls, and I guess that necessitated taking the existing ones offline. Now instead of 3-4 fast charging options in this area, I was down to just one. I was certain that because those chargers were down in Alamosa, many more people would come up to use the single charger in Del Norte. Further, I knew that lots of people came down for the crane festival, and so I was worried that there would be an increase in the number of EVs competing for this one charger.
When we got to our hotel in Monte Vista, I noticed there were outlets near the parking lot. I asked the front desk for permission to charge my car in the lot overnight, but was denied because "it would cost them too much money". I thought about offering to pay for the privilege, but the person at the desk didn't really seem interested in pursuing that line of conversation further.
Overnight, the battery stayed charged at pretty much the same level, only losing 1% indicated charge. We got up at 5 AM in order to see the cranes take off from their roosting location in the wetlands, and go out into the fields to loaf (this is the technical term :D). We spent the rest of the day driving around the back roads and farm roads, watching the cranes in the fields.
The whole day I was checking the charge point app to see if the one fast charger available to us was in use, in order to judge how busy it was, and to plan when we might go charge there. Surprisingly, not once did I see it in use!
Since we had had a great day watching cranes, we decided to leave a day early. We had enough charge to get to the Poncha Springs supercharger, and from there back home with no issues.
I thought I would conclude with a few bullet point takeaways from this trip:
- Range anxiety is real. I spent a lot more time thinking about where to charge and if I could charge enough on this trip
- Being away from the Tesla Supercharger network sucks. A whole set of fast chargers I was relying on was taken down exactly when I needed them. They're slower, you have to worry about them not functioning much more.
- Tesla is opening a supercharger site in Alamosa! They filed for the permit just this week. This will basically erase the anxiety I had last weekend on future trips
- Total energy costs for this 500 mile trip were about $35. That feels pretty cheap to me!
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Why the ground under Colorado solar panels is ripe for growing food
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Gunman kills five in Colorado LGBTQ nightclub before he is stopped by patrons
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An AI-generated artwork won first place at a state fair fine arts competition, and artists are pissed
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Anger and heartbreak on Bus No. 15
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Nebraska will spend $500M to claim South Platte River water from Colorado
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What happened in Colorado was something much scarier than a wildfire
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A battle among homeowners in Colorado shows how license plate scanners are reshaping American neighborhoods
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After data is posted on conspiracy site, Colorado county's voting machines are banned
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Thirty-three non-existent businesses tied to one Denver office got millions in COVID-19 relief money
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Alt-right Coloradans went to war with an alpaca farm — and the farm won
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Billionaire Phil Anschutz and his wife are suing Colorado for a tax refund. How much they want is a secret.
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Eldren - More of the Same (2020)
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A cult leader known as ‘Mother God’ was found mummified
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In Colorado, the looming liability of oil and gas cleanup
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Laura Veirs - Magnetized (2005)
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Blood Incantation - Inner Paths (to Outer Space) (2019)
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A look at the future of abortion from Colorado
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A new program in Denver sends mental health professionals instead of police
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Coming out at ninety years old... to my gay daughter
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Colorado is not a rectangle, it’s not even a quadrilateral, in fact it is a hexahectaenneacontakaiheptagon
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Colorado Democrats unveil sweeping police accountability bill in response to George Floyd’s death
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Machine Gun Kelly - In These Walls (2020)
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The Lumineers: NPR Music Tiny Desk Concert (2020)
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You can socially distance for free at national parks, but should you?
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Drive-through virus testing so popular they had to shut it down
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The mysterious drone sightings in Colorado seem to have been a classic case of mass hysteria, with no evidence of illegal drone activity ever found
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Unexplained drones are swarming by night over Colorado
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Eldren - We Just Want the World (2018)
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Police owe nothing to man whose home they blew up, appeals court says
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Moving rocks by hand, Colorado volunteers strengthen eroding landscapes to help withstand climate change
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Colorado town offers 1 gbps for $60 after years of battling Comcast
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As some locals claim sleep deprivation and environmental racism, I-70 construction will continue into the night for at least a year
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Rural hospitals get a boost with the help of a partnership with Banner Health
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It’s not just for first responders anymore. Health experts want regular Coloradans to have Naloxone on hand.
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The just transition for coal workers can start now. Colorado is showing how
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How a 'perfect storm' cut off water to this Colorado town
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Human friends of Canada geese sue federal government for helping Denver turn the birds into food
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Colorado isn’t the desert. A sustainable lawn doesn’t have to be rocks, cacti and ugly.
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Denver wants more trees, but arborists say the workforce can’t keep up
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It’s official: Electric scooters in Denver aren’t going anywhere
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Rural Colorado electricity provider announces early coal plant closure, focus on renewables
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Climate-causing greenhouse gases in the decline in Colorado
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Denver is capturing geese from city parks to be killed and given to hungry families
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Sixteen-year-old STEM shooting suspect said he wanted to target classmates over bullying
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half•alive - RUNAWAY (2019)
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A 'morbid fascination' with Columbine High School might lead to its shuttering
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